View Full Version : Jermain Taylor's Musculature
MrStayman
10-07-2007, 05:45 PM
Manny Steward, and I think Lennox Lewis as well, said that Jermain has the musculature for endurance. :huh
To me, it seems he has the West African musculature of Olympic sprinters. His actions in the ring are consistent with this, since he doesn't have great stamina but has fast hand speed and explosive punches.
Am I wrong (and Manny Steward correct) or was Steward just trying to make Pavlik's camp worry about Jermain's endurance?
Smazz20
10-07-2007, 05:49 PM
That would indicate he's got a shit load of tybe 2b fibres which is all about power. Endurance fibres are tybe 1. Either way, he got KTFO!!
MrStayman
10-07-2007, 05:53 PM
Well, fast twitch muscles don't necessarily mean power. Power can come from a wide variety of things, and has just as much to do with technique and wide shoulders. Also, he does have above average power.
Primadonna Kool
10-07-2007, 05:57 PM
Well, fast twitch muscles don't necessarily mean power. Power can come from a wide variety of things, and has just as much to do with technique and wide shoulders. Also, he does have above average power.
fast twitch, and how efficient your muscles are neurologically.
Smazz20
10-07-2007, 05:59 PM
Well, fast twitch muscles don't necessarily mean power. Power can come from a wide variety of things, and has just as much to do with technique and wide shoulders. Also, he does have above average power.
Very true. Hamed and Jones are perfect examples of this. How many times have they KO'ed or knocked down an opponent with punches coming out of the oddest angles!!
pipe wrenched
10-07-2007, 06:09 PM
He has always seemed to explode in quick bursts, then take short breathers. I agree his power is definitely above average, IMO.
Claypole
10-07-2007, 06:09 PM
and how efficient your muscles are neurologically.Can we have an explanation as to the meaning of this please?
MrStayman
10-07-2007, 06:10 PM
True, he was also the Arkansas 400m meter high school sprint champion I believe. That's pretty much the top end distance of the fast twitch sprinter events.
If Taylor did have toughness and stamina he would have been bombed out before the 7th. He got his with a lot of power even though you'd never know it from the near comatose commentary on HBO.
Thanks for the info, which confirms my beliefs :deal
You can argue that 400m is the top end distance. I think Michael Johnson had fast twitch muscles, and he holds the 400m world record. But then again, the best current 400m runner, who is coming close to beating Johnson's record, is white skinny kid and definitely does not have a fast twitch musculature.
MrStayman
10-07-2007, 06:15 PM
My last post wasn't clear. I meant, you are right in that 400m is the top end distance for fast twitch sprinters, but it is also the distance at which non fast twitch become competetive.
radianttwilight
10-07-2007, 06:20 PM
Thanks for the info, which confirms my beliefs :deal
You can argue that 400m is the top end distance. I think Michael Johnson had fast twitch muscles, and he holds the 400m world record. But then again, the best current 400m runner, who is coming close to beating Johnson's record, is white skinny kid and definitely does not have a fast twitch musculature.
Bullshit. Jeremy Wariner is a monster in the 200m dash too, and just because he's white and not built like a Mack truck doesn't mean he lacks fast-twitch musculature. He's got more fast-twitch musculature than any one of us could ever dream of...if he had anything less than optimal muscle fibers then he wouldn't be a world-class sprinter.
You're underrating his muscle mass, anyways :good On the USAT&F page he's listed at 6'0 and 155lbs...not heavy, mind you...but Asafa Powell (100m world record holder) is 6'3 and ~195lbs, and he's pretty "jacked" for a professional sprinter.
Rollo
10-07-2007, 06:24 PM
Manny Steward, and I think Lennox Lewis as well, said that Jermain has the musculature for endurance. :huh
To me, it seems he has the West African musculature of Olympic sprinters. His actions in the ring are consistent with this, since he doesn't have great stamina but has fast hand speed and explosive punches.
Am I wrong (and Manny Steward correct) or was Steward just trying to make Pavlik's camp worry about Jermain's endurance?
What kind of bullshit is this?! Do you think we would discuss the subject if he(Taylor) were white?
The guy lost - West African or North Polian - live with it!
MrStayman
10-07-2007, 06:24 PM
Bullshit. Jeremy Wariner is a monster in the 200m dash too, and just because he's white and not built like a Mack truck doesn't mean he lacks fast-twitch musculature. He's got more fast-twitch musculature than any one of us could ever dream of...if he had anything less than optimal muscle fibers then he wouldn't be a world-class sprinter.
You're underrating his muscle mass, anyways :good On the USAT&F page he's listed at 6'0 and 155lbs...not heavy, mind you...but Asafa Powell (100m world record holder) is 6'3 and ~195lbs, and he's pretty "jacked" for a professional sprinter.
:think
I always thought he was just mediocre at 200m. Also, part of his success at 400m is because he can sprint the ENTIRE way, and he doesn't even seem that winded after. And I can't be underrating his muscle mass too much, since he is 6'0 and 155 pounds. Any ways, this is getting quite off topic :smooch
MrStayman
10-07-2007, 06:27 PM
What kind of bullshit is this?! Do you think we would discuss the subject if he(Taylor) were white?
The guy lost - West African or North Polian - live with it!
How is an observation that someone has fast twitch musculature, despite people claiming otherwise, bullshit? I'm not claiming that he lost because of his heritage.
MrStayman
10-07-2007, 06:29 PM
I don't think so. Non fast twitch events with the fast twitch kick really start at 800m meters/ half mile.
And don't be fooled by Jeremy Wariner's thin build. He very defininately has a high percentage of fast twitch fiber. You can't run a 43:45 without it.
Osaka 2007 - 400m Men Final
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Alright, alright, I admit it. I was fooled by his thin build. :|
Primadonna Kool
10-07-2007, 06:31 PM
Another meaningless comment from the slums of Liverpool. You really are dumb aren't you.
Are you fucking stupid, you fucking gay horrible twat.
How efficient your muscles are neurologically is important, for power athletes. Your muscles are full of Motor Neurons etc
Power lifters have very efficient muscle neurologically, in a split second they can utilize over 90% of there muscles maximum force.
"Making them very powerful, applying force in the shortest amount of time, that is the definition of Power.
Rollo
10-07-2007, 06:41 PM
How is an observation that someone has fast twitch musculature, despite people claiming otherwise, bullshit? I'm not claiming that he lost because of his heritage.
Yes you did.
And if the world was turned up side down and Africa was on top, economically, militarily and socially and we(as whites) were discussed like this- then we would be outraged. Thatīs it - and you know it!
MrStayman
10-07-2007, 06:42 PM
Yes you did.
No, I didn't. :hi:
Kyroguy
10-07-2007, 06:59 PM
Are you fucking stupid, you fucking gay horrible twat.
How efficient your muscles are neurologically is important, for power athletes. Your muscles are full of Motor Neurons etc
Power lifters have very efficient muscle neurologically, in a split second they can utilize over 90% of there muscles maximum force.
"Making them very powerful, applying force in the shortest amount of time, that is the definition of Power.
Prime exhample of an incomple RESEARCH, CUT and PASTE off some website. :lol:
Primadonna Kool
10-07-2007, 07:35 PM
That was going to be my user name Gay Horrible Twat. :lol:
But I decided to go with SonicBoom. :good
ok.
Rollo
10-07-2007, 07:53 PM
If you really want to get your panties in a knot check out these articles:
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I know pseudoscience when i see it.
MrStayman
10-07-2007, 07:57 PM
If you really want to get your panties in a knot check out these articles:
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[Only registered and activated users can see links] That guy has quite an agenda. He is trying to prove that white men are more oppressed in our modern USA society than black men. :-(
Marnoff
10-07-2007, 08:13 PM
Take a look at Taylor. He does not look like an endurance runner to me at all.
Rollo
10-07-2007, 08:19 PM
Well not quite. You've got to read the articles and not overreact. You couldn't have read the articles this quickly
But like I said it's a site that will upset some people.
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This is what we can call fascism with a friendly face.....:nut
Rollo
10-07-2007, 08:39 PM
Guy, are you the world's fastest reader?
It took me a while to get through all that. And have you seen his mug on the home page, it aint all that friendly.
I have read tons of shit like that over the years. Essentially; blakcs have the bigger cocks, whites the bigger brains, Blacks have a higher crime rate, the whites have more money, and the asians are doing better in avarage - and what do we do about it?
Stop that crap - we only have one world to share!
MrStayman
10-07-2007, 08:44 PM
Well not quite. You've got to read the articles and not overreact. You couldn't have read the articles this quickly
But like I said it's a site that will upset some people.
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I read a couple of articles, and that was the underlying theme in both of them. One was about how Bryant Gumbel received no criticism when he said blacks are faster than whites, while a white sports reporter did. The other claimed that Nascar's popularity was due to it being a "ethnic celebration by people who aren't supposed to celebrate their ethnicity" (referring to white males).
joeboxer
10-07-2007, 09:24 PM
Manny Steward, and I think Lennox Lewis as well, said that Jermain has the musculature for endurance. :huh
To me, it seems he has the West African musculature of Olympic sprinters. His actions in the ring are consistent with this, since he doesn't have great stamina but has fast hand speed and explosive punches.
Am I wrong (and Manny Steward correct) or was Steward just trying to make Pavlik's camp worry about Jermain's endurance?anyone who thinks they can tell how a boxer will punch by their looks are mistaken. Compare Sultan Ibragimov's looks to Chris Byrd's. Ibragimov isn't that muscular, byrd is usually cut but Ibragimovs punch is much harder. Also, everyone was saying Lacy would destroy Calzaghe noting his muscles. didn't have a lot to do with it.
audio101
10-07-2007, 09:41 PM
True, he was also the Arkansas 400m meter high school sprint champion I believe. That's pretty much the top end distance of the fast twitch sprinter events.
If Taylor did have toughness and stamina he would have been bombed out before the 7th. He got hit with a lot of power even though you'd never know it from the near comatose commentary on HBO.
To bad he didn't run cross country, his stamina would of been sooo much better.:bbb
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