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Monzon at his very best and something of a foreshadow to the Napoles fight in terms of what Bogs tried to do.Monzon always seems to have that right hand dialled in just in tie to kick it up a few gears circa 5th, and Bogs-who had been making a lot of nice moves-was swiftly dismissed.
Very good fighter was Bogs.Always tidy and extremely accurate, except when he seemed to choke in one of his first steps up against Griffith.
fatcity
03-21-2010, 10:13 AM
Thanks for vid.Monzon was so good it is ridiculous.A great,maybe the best,middleweight.:good
GPater11093
03-21-2010, 12:49 PM
Watched this today.
Like you say he had his right hand dialed in, I loved the way he threw it over Bogs's jab as part of his 1-2. The jab would come straight down the middle and the right would come over the top of Bogs's own jab. Very impressive and effective move.
Like you say Monzon just broke him down then turned up the pace, very impressive.
Beau Geste
03-21-2010, 02:17 PM
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Monzon at his very best and something of a foreshadow to the Napoles fight in terms of what Bogs tried to do.Monzon always seems to have that right hand dialled in just in tie to kick it up a few gears circa 5th, and Bogs-who had been making a lot of nice moves-was swiftly dismissed.
Very good fighter was Bogs.Always tidy and extremely accurate, except when he seemed to choke in one of his first steps up against Griffith.
Bogs was a very good fighter. Underrated. Monzon made it look easy.
red cobra
03-21-2010, 02:22 PM
Thank you so much for this vid..I've always wanted to see it. I know Monzon was alerted, before this fight that his little son Abel was bad sick with tonsillitis or something, and that made him want to go home early, and poor ol' Tom had to pay the price...and Bogs was a pretty darned good fighter, but no match for daddy Monzon.
red cobra
03-21-2010, 02:35 PM
Monzon beats any middleweight of history, IMO.
Beau Geste
03-21-2010, 05:28 PM
Monzon beats any middleweight of history, IMO.
:good
Sweet Pea
03-21-2010, 06:01 PM
Agreed. Monzon was one of the boxing Gods, the way I see it. He amazes me in every way, as a fighter and as a person.
GPater11093
03-21-2010, 06:03 PM
Agreed. Monzon was one of the boxing Gods, the way I see it. He amazes me in every way, as a fighter and as a person.
Off topic I know but what do you mean by that?
If you held a gun to my head and asked me the most effective fighter that ever lived, I would be inclined to say Monzon.
Sweet Pea
03-21-2010, 06:09 PM
Off topic I know but what do you mean by that?
If you held a gun to my head and asked me the most effective fighter that ever lived, I would be inclined to say Monzon.He was such a cold, calculated boxer inside the ring, such a mechanic and a thinking man's fighter. Yet out of the ring he was a violent, womanizing hot-head. It's just difficult to get a grasp on the mental state of a person with the qualities that he had. Just an amazing person through and through. Not in the sense that I think he was a great guy or anything, but that he genuinely amazes me when I try to look at every aspect of him and piece it together.
But yeah, definitely one of the very best to ever lace up the gloves. He had every intangible necessary for a great boxer.
GPater11093
03-21-2010, 06:12 PM
He was such a cold, calculated boxer inside the ring, such a mechanic and a thinking man's fighter. Yet out of the ring he was a violent, womanizing hot-head. It's just difficult to get a grasp on the mental state of a person with the qualities that he had. Just an amazing person through and through. Not in the sense that I think he was a great guy or anything, but that he genuinely amazes me when I try to look at every aspect of him and piece it together.
But yeah, definitely one of the very best to ever lace up the gloves. He had every intangible necessary for a great boxer.
Yeh I see what you mean. There is something captivating about Monzon, a mystic. But he was definitly a sociopath or something. I dont think anyone will ever even begin to understand who Monzon was.
Thing is about Monzon, you first watch him and you think 'yeh, hes alright' then you anaylse him and your like 'This guys a freaking machine.' Like you say a real thinking mans fighter.
Sweet Pea
03-21-2010, 06:25 PM
I think he may well have been a sociopath.
GPater11093
03-21-2010, 06:27 PM
Put it this way, I owuldnt want to be locked in a room with him.
red cobra
03-21-2010, 08:19 PM
He was such a cold, calculated boxer inside the ring, such a mechanic and a thinking man's fighter. Yet out of the ring he was a violent, womanizing hot-head. It's just difficult to get a grasp on the mental state of a person with the qualities that he had. Just an amazing person through and through. Not in the sense that I think he was a great guy or anything, but that he genuinely amazes me when I try to look at every aspect of him and piece it together.
But yeah, definitely one of the very best to ever lace up the gloves. He had every intangible necessary for a great boxer.
Very well put..he was like a Jekyll-Hyde sort of guy..not in being good/evil, but like you say, and icy, calulating fighter with no emotions in the ring and a raging sociopath outside it. A fascinating fighter..and in the elite as far as greatness is concerned.
werety
03-22-2010, 02:49 PM
I think he may well have been a sociopath.
He most definitely was. Has a movie about Monzon ever been made?
itrymariti
03-22-2010, 03:01 PM
He was such a cold, calculated boxer inside the ring, such a mechanic and a thinking man's fighter. Yet out of the ring he was a violent, womanizing hot-head. It's just difficult to get a grasp on the mental state of a person with the qualities that he had.
Quite an ironic piece post-ban.
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