Berto vs Quintana a possibility according to ESPN your thoughts???

[MJRJJ23]

I was just checking out ESPN in the boxing section and it mentioned that Dibella signed Quintana and put him on that card in hopes to set up an eventual fight between Berto and Quintana...has anyone else heard about this or if there's been anymore development. I would love to see this take place.... Go Berto :bbb

[41fever]

WOW, a step up for Berto, we'll see how he fares

[MJRJJ23]

I hope this fight turns out. Berto has improved over his last couple fights and he's gonna need to improve his defence immensly b4 stepping up to the real big threats.. Berto has stepped it up his last 2 fights in regards to competition but this would be a great step up.

[brooklyn1550]

Good fight! This will tell us a lot about Berto

[Lampley]

This would be an excellent fight. Does Berto have the technique to overpower Quintana the way Cotto did?

[MJRJJ23]

^^^ good question. I believe he does but he needs to work on defense or he's gonna have a short career

[Lampley]

^^^ good question. I believe he does but he needs to work on defense or he's gonna have a short career

Yep. They'd better keep him away from punchers for the time being.

[MJRJJ23]

A question I have is why is it so rare to find a fighter that has the speed and power like Berto, Cotto, Cintron but bad defense, or you have a fighter like Pauli, Winky, or Spinks that hit like power puffs. imagine one of those punchers above with one of the others defense. or vice versa

[H .]

I wonder if Berto would fare better against Quintana than Julio

[LogDog69]

I wonder if Berto would fare better against Quintana than Julio

I think he will because I belive Berto is a little less one-dimensional that Julio. This would be a tough fight for Berto though, I think it all depends on how much Cotto took out of Quintana. If the same Quintana that showed up for Julio shows up for Berto I think Quintana wins.

[BITCH ASS]

I think Berto can beat Quintana. Quintana doesn't have a style that would really trouble Berto.

He's not tall and rangy like Cintron who I would keep the fuck away from Berto at this time, and he's not a come fowards, pressure fighter with a good chin like Estrada. (I'm not saying Berto is ready for Cotto either....he's NOT!!!)

Estrada troubled Berto because Berto thinks he can bang harder than anyone out there, so instead of playing the role of a boxer like he should have, Berto was too apt to get inside and mix it up.

When he did, he did two things wrong. He should have feinted the jab occassionaly or thrown a light one and followed it up with a massive uppercut as Estrada came in, used his legs and moved around instead of staying stationary and MOST IMPORTANTLY, PUT HIS FUCKIN HANDS UP ON THE INSIDE.

Someone needs to tell Berto he's not Floyd. Totally different fighter, but tons of potential, and with the exception of Cintron and Paul Williams, I think he could eventually beat any guy out there......................maybe even them eventually, but he has a long way to go.

[jecxbox]

If he gets by Quintana...They should look for Joel Julio...And if they get a little brave I'd say they should fight Joshua Clottey...Personally I'd love to see Berto vs Clottey I think that would be an absolute war.

[Orishaman]

Quintana v Julio dejavu.....

[Lampley]

I wonder if Berto would fare better against Quintana than Julio

I think so. For one thing, Berto is more tested now than Julio was in that fight, and I like Berto better anyway because of his superior handspeed.

That's not to say I think he would win. Intriguing matchup. Let's hope it happens.

[Lampley]

I think Berto can beat Quintana. Quintana doesn't have a style that would really trouble Berto.


I agree with some of your points, but I think you overstate Berto's movement. His feet look suspect to me, because he's naturally flat-footed, and my No. 1 question with him always has been how he'd fare against a guy who could give him lateral movement and punch from angles.

Quintana is one of those guys, if not a real hitter. On the other hand, Berto does have better speed and overall ability than the overrated Julio, so he might be able to crack Carlos over the course of a hard fight.

[BITCH ASS]

I agree with some of your points, but I think you overstate Berto's movement. His feet look suspect to me, because he's naturally flat-footed, and my No. 1 question with him always has been how he'd fare against a guy who could give him lateral movement and punch from angles.

Quintana is one of those guys, if not a real hitter. On the other hand, Berto does have better speed and overall ability than the overrated Julio, so he might be able to crack Carlos over the course of a hard fight.

I wonder if Berto neglects to use his footwork or he really is naturally flat footed.

In some fights I've seen him move in and out like a sniper, and in others it seems like he's content just mixing it up and slugging it out.

I wonder if he can move, but doesnt because he feels like he can hit harder than anybody in the division so it is THEY and not HE that should be doing the moving.

He's still an enigma in my eyes because even his defense could have been improved for Estrada's style of fighting, and even though his cornermen told him to put his hands up, Berto seemed content with doing his best Floyd impression which obviously was not working for him.

If he would just admit to himself that he should keep his hands up and despite how hard he hits, a little movement is going to be necessary if he plans on moving up to the next level.

Imagine if he fought Clottey the same way he fought Estrada.

He probably would have gotten KOed.

[MJRJJ23]

Who do yall think would come in as the favorite in this fight if it pans out. I can't wait to see if this fight goes through

[MJRJJ23]

I wonder if Berto neglects to use his footwork or he really is naturally flat footed.

In some fights I've seen him move in and out like a sniper, and in others it seems like he's content just mixing it up and slugging it out.

I wonder if he can move, but doesnt because he feels like he can hit harder than anybody in the division so it is THEY and not HE that should be doing the moving.

He's still an enigma in my eyes because even his defense could have been improved for Estrada's style of fighting, and even though his cornermen told him to put his hands up, Berto seemed content with doing his best Floyd impression which obviously was not working for him.

If he would just admit to himself that he should keep his hands up and despite how hard he hits, a little movement is going to be necessary if he plans on moving up to the next level.

Imagine if he fought Clottey the same way he fought Estrada.

He probably would have gotten KOed.

As probably the biggest fan of Berto on hear (hometown) I question Berto's ring smarts. As his competition gets better and better he's gonna have to come up with different plans for each invidual fighter ala Mayweather, or he's soon gonna realize he can't slug his way to victory everytime, cause every slugger eventually gets there ears boxed off..

[bumdujour]

I was just checking out ESPN in the boxing section and it mentioned that Dibella signed Quintana and put him on that card in hopes to set up an eventual fight between Berto and Quintana...has anyone else heard about this or if there's been anymore development. I would love to see this take place.... Go Berto :bbb

yes, that would be a great fight!!

quintana is a very good, awkward fighter. berto has shown he can handle the straightforward maulers like estrada.

this would be a good learning experience for him......if he can pass the test. close fight imo.

[MJRJJ23]

yes, that would be a great fight!!

quintana is a very good, awkward fighter. berto has shown he can handle the straightforward maulers like estrada.

this would be a good learning experience for him......if he can pass the test. close fight imo.

nice assesment, i'm also curious to see how Berto does against a southpaw

[Lampley]

I wonder if Berto neglects to use his footwork or he really is naturally flat footed.

In some fights I've seen him move in and out like a sniper, and in others it seems like he's content just mixing it up and slugging it out.

I wonder if he can move, but doesnt because he feels like he can hit harder than anybody in the division so it is THEY and not HE that should be doing the moving.

He's still an enigma in my eyes because even his defense could have been improved for Estrada's style of fighting, and even though his cornermen told him to put his hands up, Berto seemed content with doing his best Floyd impression which obviously was not working for him.

If he would just admit to himself that he should keep his hands up and despite how hard he hits, a little movement is going to be necessary if he plans on moving up to the next level.

Imagine if he fought Clottey the same way he fought Estrada.

He probably would have gotten KOed.

I agree about him fighting Clottey that way. And as much as I love Chad Dawson, he at times has shown the same tendency to emulate Roy Jones (late vs. Adamek).

Berto always has looked flat-footed to me. Just the way he walks. He moves OK forward and backward, but he drags his feet when moving sideways. Jeff Lacy is the same way. I just don't see that ending well for him against an elite opponent who can box, especially considering that Berto's defense isn't very good to begin with.

He's a real offensive talent, though, and that handspeed makes him very dangerous. He has combination ability at the major league level, so it's not like he's in there looking to connect with one shot.

[MJRJJ23]

Anyone with a link to watch the Berto- Estrada fight??

[FlatNose]

Berto is starting to look like he's going to make some waves in boxings toughest division.Power, footwork, a good jab, and the killer instinct.He beat down Estrada with a clinical performance.Look out for this dude.

[BITCH ASS]

Prety big step up for Berto from fighting a guy like Estrada. I say Quintana has a 60 - 40 chance of outboxing Berto on his way to a close UD victory.

Berto isn't as flat footed as Joel Julio, but much like Joel, Berto is highly inexperienced and this much of a step up in class might be too much for him.

Berto is gonna fuck you in the ass.

[bachatu]

I think Berto will win. Quintana is certainly game but Berto's offense is better than many boxers, and he certainly aint Joel Julio. Joel came over from colombia with an impressive record knocking everybody out, but when faced someone decent here in the States, he didn't fare so well. In fact, he was dominated.
Berto, on the other hand, acquired his record here in the states, and when he faced an OK fighter (Estrada), he won impressively.

[MJRJJ23]

One thing im glad to see is that it seems Berto is getting better with each fight up as the competition gets tougher, he's still very young and has plenty of time to learn more. If his trainers dont beat defense into him though it wont matter. He has the offensive weopons to beat anybody in the division.

[Amsterdam]

This would be an excellent fight. Does Berto have the technique to overpower Quintana the way Cotto did?

No, he was missing against Estrada a lot, he's quick but doesn't have great timing and he's preditable.

I'll just go ahead and pick Quintana, unless Quintana has a glass liver in the end...:lol:

[BITCH ASS]

No, he was missing against Estrada a lot, he's quick but doesn't have great timing and he's preditable.

I'll just go ahead and pick Quintana, unless Quintana has a glass liver in the end...:lol:

I don't think that he missed that often.

The problem was that HE was hit too often. And I'll agree that he occasionaly telegraphs his right hand, but not so much to be labeled predictable.

His offense isn't the problem. He has timing, speed, and power.

He needs to work on movement, defense, and ad******g his style to suit his opponent.

The guy is good. Stop hatin.

[bachatu]

I wouldn't call his offense predictable. He throws very nice combinations at fast speeds. He inflicted more pain and damage to Estrada than what Cintron did to Estrada. And a big part of it was his speed and ability to throw combinations. I honestly thought Estrada was going to call it quits at rounds 5 or 6 by the look on his face after certain rounds. Ive never seen him so discouraged...he got his ass whooped.

[PR Boxing Lore]

Interesting fight if it happens, would like to see how Berto can handle a guy like Quintana, and would be a good comparison against the Cotto performance.