Chagaev vs Sultan UNIFICATION

[joma86]

I just wanted too see how europe-forum ppl see the fight and whom they will prognose as winner :) I for my won see Sultan to have the better tools to win this bout!:good

[MrMagic]

Chagaev.
Timur Ibragimov himself have said that Chagaev, Sultan and him were close long time ago and that Chagaev was the better of the three.
I still think this is the case.. but I don't see any K.O, only a Chagaev UD.

[Flurry]

Heard about this, is it a done deal or merely speculative at this stage?

Very interesting fight if it came off. I haven´t seen Ibragimov often enough to be able to evaluate him, judging by the Briggs fight I´d say Chagaev has better movement, the better jab and a higher workrate.

[Artani]

Its interesting fight because both are southpawe. Ibragimov its faster , he have more power but Chagaev punching harder and knows to fight in many styles.
Chagaev by TKO at round 7 or 8.

[NBT]

Heard about this, is it a done deal or merely speculative at this stage?
According to espn it seems pretty much a done deal.
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Could be an intresting fight, too unbeaten southpaws. I would guess Chagaev wins this but I can also see Ibragimov taking it.

[Alcaldemb]

Chagaev is stronger, faster, has better skill, power, chin and foot work and defense. Chagaev should be able to stop Sultan somewhere between 7 and 10.

[VHB]

Finally we´ll get the ULTIMATE SUPER CHAMPION!

[amy]

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[AlexxWozHere]

Ibragimov much more faster. If Chagaev will decide to go right to Sultan and fight inside, he will be catched and knocked out. If it will outside and full distance, different ways are possible. Both of them have good footwork right now, good speed and good vision. Difficult to say. Ibragimov from Russia and fight will be in Russia - it could be a factor as well.

[Flurry]

According to espn it seems pretty much a done deal.
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Could be an intresting fight, too unbeaten southpaws. I would guess Chagaev wins this but I can also see Ibragimov taking it.

:good thanks

Kohl´s website still has no mention of this, but then they are usually the last to make a deal like that official. It would seem surprising Kohl would want to risk his heavyweight champ, right after getting hold of a heavyweight champ for the 1st time since Klitschkos hey days, doesn´t look like Kohl at all to be honest so I ll wait until its been confirmed over here before becoming too enthusiastic.

It appears as if it will be staged on neutral ground Russia and imo Chagaev is the better fighter anyway, Ibrag didnt impress me at all against Briggs.

[Bummy Davis]

I thought Ruslan would win the decision but Sultan was real fit for his last fight and he may outhustle Ruslin, it depends on the pace of the fight and who is in better shape, I see a close decision

[Ivo]

I tend to go with Ibragimov for this one.

[Darien]

Chagaev on points IMO. He's a better overall boxer and has better pop.

[Odo]

Chagaev by stoppage victory in the later rounds.
Sultan is totally overrated IMO.He went the full route with Osokin,and drawed with Austin.
Besides he didnt impress me much with his performance against Shannon Briggs.

By the way Austin got a gift decision against Sedrick Fields who knocked him down,but couldnt finish him.
Chagaev brutally knocked Fields out.Austin drawed with Sultan.I know that this cross comparisons dont mean that much.Styles make fights.Unfortunetely,Sultan doesnt have the right style to beat Chagaev.
Not only has Chagaev more pop in his fists,he has the better fight record as well.IMO Sultan is the weakest of the four present champs.

[Axe]

Should be a very competetive matchuip either way.

I'll go with Chagaev via SD 12.

[joeboxer]

Chagaev by UD or KO.

[Cachibatches]

Chag's iron chin is going to be the differnence. Ruslan can hurt Sultan, but not he other way around.

[Armo_Ruski]

i too would have to favor chagaev for this fight... has chagaev ever been knocked down??? i can see chagaev landing a big counter and dropping sultan but i do believe this will go the distance. chagaev MD or UD

[Tom_Tocca]

<-------- lets get it on!

[Alcaldemb]

It is a pretty simple breakdown. Both men are rather similar. Shorter heavies, southpaws, heavy hands etc. The difference is that everything Sultan does Ruslan does better, add to that the fact he is younger, stronger and has a better chin and I think Ruslan is a clear favorite in this fight.

[Alcaldemb]

These two boxers fought a viscious contest during their amateur campaigns. So, I see no reason why this trend will not continue in the professional ranks. Coupled with the fact that this is a unification bout being held in a feverish venue, rought with a myriad of supporters for both fighters. The only reasonable outcome is a big win for boxing!

And the worst part is no one in the US will carry it.

[Flurry]

It is a pretty simple breakdown. Both men are rather similar. Shorter heavies, southpaws, heavy hands etc. The difference is that everything Sultan does Ruslan does better, add to that the fact he is younger, stronger and has a better chin and I think Ruslan is a clear favorite in this fight.

Exactly my take as well, plus imo Ruslan hits more accurately and has faster hands, he has that fast snapping straight left, Sultan in his turn (judging by the Briggs fight) has a good roundhouse left, but it looked neither as fast nor as accurate as Chagaev´s straight left

[Flurry]

I do not know about that. Could the U.S. TV market really pass on such a fight? It is the first unification bout in eight years.

Did you once post at boxing com using that very same handle?

[Alcaldemb]

I do not know about that. Could the U.S. TV market really pass on such a fight? It is the first unification bout in eight years.

Yeah they could, HBO is just that stupid.

[Alcaldemb]

Exactly my take as well, plus imo Ruslan hits more accurately and has faster hands, he has that fast snapping straight left, Sultan in his turn (judging by the Briggs fight) has a good roundhouse left, but it looked neither as fast nor as accurate as Chagaev´s straight left

Yes Ruslan has very underrated handspeed.

[buddynabuick]

Chagaev by stoppage victory in the later rounds.
Sultan is totally overrated IMO.He went the full route with Osokin,and drawed with Austin.
Besides he didnt impress me much with his performance against Shannon Briggs.

By the way Austin got a gift decision against Sedrick Fields who knocked him down,but couldnt finish him.
Chagaev brutally knocked Fields out.Austin drawed with Sultan.I know that this cross comparisons dont mean that much.Styles make fights.Unfortunetely,Sultan doesnt have the right style to beat Chagaev.
Not only has Chagaev more pop in his fists,he has the better fight record as well.IMO Sultan is the weakest of the four present champs.

Forgive me i'm not euro. I was leaning towards sultan but after reading this post i will have to look at this fight a little closer:good

[Odo]

Forgive me i'm not euro. I was leaning towards sultan but after reading this post i will have to look at this fight a little closer:good


Nothing to be sorry about,mate!

Who knows? Sultan may be able to wipe the floor with Chagaev.We can only speculate here on this forum.
Nevertheless I dare to say that Sultan is the underdog against Chagaev.I will bet money on Chagaev.

[Flurry]

Tes, I sure did! I was unfortunately away from the Internet for a couple years. Upon returning, I was pleased to find that many of the same posters were still active on ESB. Contributors such as yourself, Odo, Sean, Dr. Z and a few others where always excellent sources of information and opinion.:good


Unfortunately, I could not retrieve my old account with my prior postcount ect ect, but starting over is not such a bad thing.


:good I well remember you and a few others back then were the only ones in a sea of American fight fans flying the european flag on boxing com. Good to see you

[boxexpert]

i see a easy win for chagaev because ibragimov cant punch,he is more a technician

[Alcaldemb]

You know, as per Tom's rumor, it would be an amazing card if they had Povetkin vs Lyakhovich under Chagaev vs Ibragimov, that would fill the Olympisky up.

[shawn1262231]

How is this a unification match? I read somewhere I believe wikipedia.com that when Dariusz Michalczewski beat Virgil Hill he added the IBF and WBA titles to his WBO title he unified three belts but the WBA doesn't recognize the WBO so it stripped him of the WBA belt:huh Since Chagaev and Ibragimov have those two belts aren't they worried the WBA will strip the winner and two more contenders will fight for it and become a paper champ. Has the WBA changed it's opinion of the WBO and do they recognize them as a legitimate organization?

[ryanty22]

Has anyone heard anything about a Valuev rematch maybe after the uni fight if chagaev wins? it was a close majority decision. as far as this fight i see chagaev winning by late knock out or uni dec

[NBT]

Has the WBA changed it's opinion of the WBO and do they recognize them as a legitimate organization?
Hill-Michalczewski was 10 years ago, a lot has changed since then. Unification with the WBO is possible for about 5 years now. The first unification of a WBA and WBO belt was 2002 Freitas-Casamayor iirc.