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iceman
10-08-2007, 01:27 PM
I think the Heavyweight Division is now worse than ever.Wlad seems to have few if any legitimate challengers after Peter looked distinctly average Saturday night - ancient Holyfield will be fighting for a belt - Golota may get another shot - there are no decent young American heavyies except for the undersized Eddie Chambers -

Chagaev looks good but its hard to be sure based on his victory over Valuev.Dimitrenko is being protected but may have the goods.

The main hope of saving the division may lie with Povetkin and possibly Solis.Povetkin is being rushed along and so far has looked the part.Hopefully he can continue to improve and put a pulse back into this sorry division

H .
10-08-2007, 01:28 PM
..and then there's Golota :D

Shpion
10-08-2007, 01:28 PM
No kidding.

MagnificentMatt
10-08-2007, 01:31 PM
Povetkin can hurry as much as he wants, as long as he doesnt run in to Wlad to fast..

...Also, Calvin Brock was good, even though Ray Austin sucked complete ass, and Lamon Brewster, well Wlad needed to be redeemed.. Hehe..

Asterion
10-08-2007, 01:35 PM
I think the Heavyweight Division is now worse than ever.Wlad seems to have few if any legitimate challengers after Peter looked distinctly average Saturday night - ancient Holyfield will be fighting for a belt - Golota may get another shot - there are no decent young American heavyies except for the undersized Eddie Chambers -

Chagaev looks good but its hard to be sure based on his victory over Valuev.Dimitrenko is being protected but may have the goods.

The main hope of saving the division may lie with Povetkin and possibly Solis.Povetkin is being rushed along and so far has looked the part.Hopefully he can continue to improve and put a pulse back into this sorry division


The division looks pretty good to me with guys like Wlad, Chagaev and Ibragimov, and beatable but entertaining guys like Virchis, Maskaev, Holyfield, Peter, etc. The division isn't bad. The future looks much better with guys like Povetkin, Solis, etc.

Jose FM
10-08-2007, 01:45 PM
I think the Heavyweight division has always been crap...The cruiseweights are the heavyweights that we think of when we think about the heaveyweight division. Skilled, Strong, in shape, boxer/punchers is what we think of as the ultimate champs known as heavyweights. The heavy's of today arent far ahead of butterbean type guys, theyre all fat, skill-less bums who use their fat asses and lovehandles to try squash you to death. Peter and McCline are the true examples of that.

There should just be a Super-heavyweight division already, cause these guys look like they belong in a pie-eating contest instead of the ring.

Stinky gloves
10-08-2007, 01:48 PM
Hurry up him so he can be KOed by Wald and slip to the gray like Brock

iceman
10-08-2007, 01:54 PM
Hurry up him so he can be KOed by Wald and slip to the gray like Brock

If Povetkin beats Byrd and the Brock/chambers winner ( and i think he will ) he should at least be ready to give Wlad a stern challenge and maybe even beat him.No one really knows how good he is yet but who else is there.Other than Chagaev i can't see anyone else competing with Wlad

Stinky gloves
10-08-2007, 02:23 PM
If Povetkin beats Byrd and the Brock/chambers winner ( and i think he will ) he should at least be ready to give Wlad a stern challenge and maybe even beat him.No one really knows how good he is yet but who else is there.Other than Chagaev i can't see anyone else competing with Wlad

Yes two fights at the high level should be enough to put him in the title shot.
But if the best prospect fails then HW division is in real truble ...

fightingmajor
10-08-2007, 02:51 PM
The top of the division, Wlad, is right up there with many champions in terms of talent. The problems is really that there has been no one guy to capture the type of fan base the way Holyfield, Ali, Tyson or even Lewis did. Wlad can't draw shit on PPV.

Peter has potential but it is not looking good for him to ever reach that potential the type of condition he has been coming in. The only time he really looked physically fit was the second fight with Toney, and he did dominate a very difficult fighter in that one. Povetkin definitely has the potential. There are some others with talent and potential, but there is just nobody who has captured the mainstream attention that past HW's have.

bumdujour
10-08-2007, 02:55 PM
I think the Heavyweight Division is now worse than ever.Wlad seems to have few if any legitimate challengers after Peter looked distinctly average Saturday night - ancient Holyfield will be fighting for a belt - Golota may get another shot - there are no decent young American heavyies except for the undersized Eddie Chambers -

Chagaev looks good but its hard to be sure based on his victory over Valuev.Dimitrenko is being protected but may have the goods.

The main hope of saving the division may lie with Povetkin and possibly Solis.Povetkin is being rushed along and so far has looked the part.Hopefully he can continue to improve and put a pulse back into this sorry division

chagaev is the goods, no question.

his win vs valuev was very impressive. and he holds a clear win over ruiz........the only one to have clearly beaten ruiz since jones.

thats as impressive as it gets. what more does one need.

dimitrenko is overrated imo.

virchis cant box, but he can knock anyone out.

Loufatski
10-08-2007, 02:57 PM
..and then there's Golota :D

Yea, wouldn't it be something if a 40 year old Golota schools the division?

bumdujour
10-08-2007, 03:00 PM
Yea, wouldn't it be something if a 40 year old Golota schools the division?

and if your mom had balls and a dick she´d be your mom!!!

so i guess its possible:lol:

Amsterdam
10-08-2007, 03:09 PM
Povetkin has defence issue's. Peter probably wins, even though Peter is looked at as shit now, which I am still giving him the benefit of the doubt.

rydersonthestorm
10-08-2007, 03:10 PM
I don't know why anyone is mentioning solis, have any of you watched him fight he is as fat and lazy as any opf the heavyweights you are calling bad.

Shpion
10-08-2007, 03:15 PM
Povetkin has defence issue's. Peter probably wins, even though Peter is looked at as shit now, which I am still giving him the benefit of the doubt.

If Povetkin has defense issues, then Peter never even heard such a term. After the fight on Sat. I will comfortably go with Povetkin by either UD or even Tko, if this fight happened tomorrow.

joe the great
10-08-2007, 03:16 PM
..and then there's Golota :D
And Kali Meehan.:good

RAMPAGE0017
10-08-2007, 04:17 PM
What exactly is everybody looking for in Povetkin that they obviously, as I pointed out weeks ago, weren't going to get from Peter? If everyone's looking for the next big heavyweight.. we pretty much got him in Klitschko. But if you don't like Klitschko and you're just looking for someone to potentially beat him, then you're going to have to look a lot harder than Povetkin.

brooklyn1550
10-08-2007, 04:51 PM
Give him time!

I usually don't care much for Byrd fights, but I can't wait to see how Povetkin performs against him.

Feiti
10-08-2007, 05:18 PM
If Ibragimov and Chagaev would have fought, with the winner facing Wlad, things wouldn´t be as bad as they are now.

I think it´s kind of unfair to throw Povetkin in there with Wlad after only two more fights. Why not let him take on one of the lesser champions?

Odo
10-09-2007, 12:28 PM
I think the Heavyweight Division is now worse than ever.Wlad seems to have few if any legitimate challengers after Peter looked distinctly average Saturday night - ancient Holyfield will be fighting for a belt - Golota may get another shot - there are no decent young American heavyies except for the undersized Eddie Chambers -

Chagaev looks good but its hard to be sure based on his victory over Valuev.Dimitrenko is being protected but may have the goods.

The main hope of saving the division may lie with Povetkin and possibly Solis.Povetkin is being rushed along and so far has looked the part.Hopefully he can continue to improve and put a pulse back into this sorry division


Both Solis and Povetkin are on the fast track.Both fighters have been matched incredibly toughly so far,and both fighters have passed their tests with flying colours so far.
The heavy weight division strongly needs fresh faces.I am so fed up with news about Rahman getting a new shot at a world title or Ruiz fighting another eliminator or............. .or................... .
I for my part would love to see names like Gomez,Virchis,or Bidenko mentioned when people talk about title challengers instead of the Rahmans,Ruiz,and Hollyfields.
Old geezers like Hollyfield who can hardly beat any decent journeyman nowadays gets another title shot whereas Virchis will fight another unknown name.
And I guess lots of people here wont fail to praise Sultan for his victory over that old geezer.Damn! Makes my blood boil when I come to think about it.Sultan is for sure the weakest champ out there,and I for my part would bet my money on Gomez,Virchis,and Bidenko if they got a shot at Sultan instead of that old zombie Hollyfield.