95% Chance of Holy vs Ibragimov

[Butch Coolidge]

According to Holyman there's a 95% chance he will challenge Sultan Ibragimov for the WBO belt. I think Holy may have gotten his Ibragimovs mixed up. If he does get this fight I suspect it will be has last fight. Ibragimov is fast, awkward, hits hard and appears to have a solid jaw.

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[Cachibatches]

Man I hope Holy sticks with the real belts:-(

Holy always sad he only believes in the Undisputed championship (WBC, WBA, IBF)

He should take Chagev
You can jsut barely see the vaguest possibility of Holyfield coming up with some crazy Holyfieldesque upset over Sultan (we are talking veryu long shot here) because Sultan appears to be the kind of fighter that you can hurt, and who might come in undertrained.

Chag is always in good form, and has an iron chin. I think Holy has got his best bet cornered.

[seb melmoth]

It would be great if this fight happens.

Ibragimov UD12

WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO....all the same shit. They mean nothing. Fans decide who's the real Champ.

[Imperial1]

Holyfield is going to own him ..WAR HOLYFIELD

[joeboxer]

another undeserving fighter gets a shot at a champion if this comes off. he hasn't beaten anyone near the top ten since his comeback.

[Imperial1]

another undeserving fighter gets a shot at a champion if this comes off. he hasn't beaten anyone near the top ten since his comeback.

Holyfield undeserving ??? BLASPHAMY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Heavyrighthand]

Novirasputin is right on.

[Cachibatches]

I am glad Sultan is getting this fight.

Its a TERRIFIC business move if you think about it.

First of all lets put aside the chump criticisms.
Peter Okhello? for a guy who won the belt against a guy who didn't even beat the previous champ but got it by fighting Monte Barrett.

THE WBC is no better then the WBO
and neither is the IBF which gave Byrd a ton of chances regarding Oquendo and so on until Klitschko finally manuevered his way to fight him.
(remember who Byrd beat to get that belt btw? taht's right Holyfield)
Which leaves teh WBA and John Ruiz :/


Who were the WBO champs again?
Sergei, Lamon, and Briggs, Sultan
all punchers and all fighters who won the belt via good decisions (i.e. not really disputable ones).


WBO has as much credibility as any of the other trinkets.

To the business move i was talking about.

A. Holy is a name! I don't care how old or done he is, if Holy is fighting a TOP guy you know for fuck all you will watch on the off chance Foreman Ko's Moorer again metaphorically.

IT will be a euphoric moment that will sell to American fight fans who are sentimental about Holy Tyson, Holy Lewis etc.

At the same time it will draw people to the new guy Sultan who IMHO is in a position to beat Holy worse then any other person including Toney.

That will be a GREAT showcase for him if he beats HOly convincingly. People will be talking about him more then Wlad here in the US IMHO.
Not boxing fans but everyman fans.

Holy is also on a winning streak (remember Oquendo beat Byrd first hehehehe) which means its not like most of these 1 shot deals where like Vitali or Foreman comes back and fights for a title right away.

As a voluntary defense SI is taking on a guy who has beaten a few decent fighters a semi good fighter should beat (does not include bates, but Maddalone, Oquendo and hopefully Savarese).


Tell me this guys WHO WILL NOT WATCH IT IF IT IS TELEVISED or is even sold as a small PPV for like 30 bucks?

I guarantee it will sell. people love sentimental shit like this.
As always, very well stated.

[jimmie]

Holyfield is going to beat that ass.

[Heavyrighthand]

Holyfield is going to beat that ass.

:lol:

Not sure how Holy will fair against Ibragimov, but I think Holy will give a good account of himself, and may even decision Ibrag.

[brooklyn1550]

I would root for Holyfield, but I would bet on Ibragimov.

[nervousxtian]

If Holy is gonna win a title, this is probably his only chance against a guy he has a shot at.

I don't think he can win at this age, but of all the title holders, Sultan is the most beatable by Holy.

[Butch Coolidge]

My guess is Ibragimov will stop the wornout Holyfield very, very early.

[Imperial1]

My guess is Ibragimov will stop the wornout Holyfield very, very early.

He couldn't stop a slow plodding asmatic Briggs with no Pulse yet he will stop Holyfield ??? :huh

[In_FlaMeS]

Ibragimov will stop Holyfield ...

[Butch Coolidge]

He couldn't stop a slow plodding asmatic Briggs with no Pulse yet he will stop Holyfield ??? :huh

Yes, a 260lb musclehead who can punch like a damn mule kicks. The reason he didn't stop Briggs is because Jeff Mayweather, his trainer, ordered him to get in and out and maximize his advantage of mobility and stamina while maximizing Briggs' limitations of slowness and a low punch output. SI isn't going to have as much respect for Holy's punching power and he's going to fight even more aggressively vs an over the hill opponent in order to test his legs. Besides that, Ibragimov does have a tendency to deck opponents early. I don't foresee Holy lasting more than five rounds at the most.

[Imperial1]

Yes, a 260lb musclehead who can punch like a damn mule kicks. The reason he didn't stop Briggs is because Jeff Mayweather, his trainer, ordered him to get in and out and maximize his advantage of mobility and stamina while maximizing Briggs' limitations of slowness and a low punch output. SI isn't going to have as much respect for Holy's punching power and he's going to fight even more aggressively vs an over the hill opponent in order to test his legs. Besides that, Ibragimov does have a tendency to deck opponents early. I don't foresee Holy lasting more than five rounds at the most.

Holyfield has been hit by much harder punchers than the Sultan ..But I understand Holy's best yrs are behind him and Sultan is young ..If Holyfield can remain injury free he is going to surprise a hell of allot of people .Its hard to make a case for him due to his ring age but don't sleep on the real deal ..I can't give SI al that much props just yet when I always considered Briggs a bum to begin with ..

[El Bombasto]

Holyfield is going to own him ..WAR HOLYFIELD

:rofl

[BoxingGuru]

Ridiculous retarded fight. The fight with Oquendo was a flat out robbery and he fights no one and gets a title shot. How it it these fucking losers fight no one in the top 10 and get a title shot, like Shannon Briggs?

[Kostya Zoo]

I know that:roll:
But I just cant help the ill feelings toward the newly established WBOgus.....having 3 belts is enough (although they are bogus)

The HOF only recognizes 3Belts (WBC, WBA, IBF). I used to hate LL, but the guy held the 3belts and gave the Undisputed title a meanning....WBOgus was WBOgus.

Briggs being a WBOgus champ, brings bad taste in my mouth:twisted: :fire
I can't believe that there's still people who think that any one organization is any better than any of the others. WBC, WBA, and IBF is just as incompetant and pathetic as WBO. There's no justification for holding any one in higher esteem than any other. WBO is not "NEW" anymore, the fighter and championship linearity are the only things that are important in considering which belt is worth anything.

[oblate]

it would be cool if holyfield first fought golota. their old guys from the same era and no matter what everyone will say they didn't deserve a title shot so atleast only one of them would get it and that guy would have to beat another to get that shot.

[sues2nd]

My guess is Ibragimov will stop the wornout Holyfield very, very early.

HE COULDNT STOP RAY FREAKIN AUSTIN......ARE YOU CRAZY!!!!???

[Butch Coolidge]

HE COULDNT STOP RAY FREAKIN AUSTIN......ARE YOU CRAZY!!!!???

If he was in fighting shape he would have stopped Austin very early, like in the first round. Besides, if the Holy vs Ibragimov fight takes place we'll find out. BTW, Ibragimov also pummeled Whitaker and Briggs as well as destroyed Javier Mora, a guy who gave Kirk Johnson an unexpected amount of resistance. Time will tell and I'm saying Iggy in 5 rounds or even less.

[Zakman]

Holyfield is going to beat that ass.

He's picked his most likely suspect, with Maskaev about to be knocked off, and OUT, by Peter. I give Evander a 50/50 shot of pulling this off. And if he does, let me tell you, it's gonna shake the boxing world.

[Butch Coolidge]

I think Holy's best chance for a belt would be vs Maskaev, slow and with a not-so-good mandible.

[Kostya Zoo]

He's picked his most likely suspect, with Maskaev about to be knocked off, and OUT, by Peter...

Why is this a foregone conclusion on this site? This will be a tougher fight than Peter's expecting, I'm picking Maskaev.

[Amsterdam]

Why is this a foregone conclusion on this site? This will be a tougher fight than Peter's expecting, I'm picking Maskaev.

On what notion?

Glass chin, slow legs, average defence, vulnerability to good hooks?:lol:

This may end in the first round my friend.

[Kostya Zoo]

On what notion?

Glass chin, slow legs, average defence, vulnerability to good hooks?:lol:

This may end in the first round my friend.

Peter has never defeated a top heavyweight. James Toney has looked worse and worse every fight out recently, Peter's wins over him (a "name" guy) has clouded reality.

Peter's record is shotty at best. And are you all sure he's that big a puncher? When was his last KO? Julius Long? That fight was bullshit anyways, Long just quit. Has he beaten any other top 10 guys?

[Kostya Zoo]

It will depend on how Oleg deals with those rabbit punches and how the ref enforces the rules.
Those rabbit punches drive me nuts. They're illegal and dangerous.

Peter is a product of nothing more than clever management and promotion.

[Kostya Zoo]

...Even so he is picking on the weakest and oldest and most battle worn champ so he will have his shot.
...

I agree about Maskaev. I'm picking him but it's for lack of belief in Peter's abilities rather than belief in Maskaev. He's old and I don't doubt that any top 10 guy could potentially KO him (except for Rahman...if he's still top 10...Maskaev officially OWNS Hasim Rahman).

[Kostya Zoo]

Abso friggin lutely :good

I don't care what potential Rahman had but by this time it is abundantly clear that if you keep training the way he has in his career you will be KTFO by a guy with less potential but more natural balls in the 12th round of a big fight.

The guy fights like a blimp every other fight and then wonders why he got KOed by Oleg 2 times and why Lewis pasted him in the 2nd fight.

If fighters do what Rahman did they will always be victims no matter how much talent they may have had at one point.

you right. And I think Rahman's fight against Toney said a lot more (negative) about Toney's HW career than it did about Rahman.

I always thought Rahman was absolute shit, turns out I was right. As usual :smoke

[Butch Coolidge]

I have my doubts about Maskaev. I tip Peter as the winner. However, Victor Valle Jr. seems to have done a good job of tightening up Maskaev defense. He hasn't been flattend by any left hooks lately.

[Coast]

I just hope these "Real Dealer's" put their money on Oldyfield to tighten up the odds. I usually never bet on boxing b/c almost anything can happen. But when a way past it fan favorite makes a comeback, I'm ready for Vegas.

[Coast]

I'd take Peter too but I doubt there will be much cash put on Maskaev.

[The Whaler]

He's picked his most likely suspect, with Maskaev about to be knocked off, and OUT, by Peter. I give Evander a 50/50 shot of pulling this off. And if he does, let me tell you, it's gonna shake the boxing world.
GIVE EM HELL HOLY! RAWR!

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[MrStayman]

95% chance of KESSLER BEATING CALZAGHE!!! :D:D

[Danny Ocean]

95% chance of KESSLER BEATING CALZAGHE!!! :D:D


what happened to 65% :lol:

[MrStayman]

what happened to 65% :lol:Alcohol changes world perception