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chimba
10-08-2007, 02:00 PM
When I was training, this was a cardinal rule..never jab to the body..it is the most useless dangerous punch. I'll never understood it. It was my trainers belief and then I thought about it and hes right. This should not be taught and I see tons of fighters do this

Can anyone explain???

Rickypr18
10-08-2007, 02:01 PM
When I was training, this was a cardinal rule..never jab to the body..it is the most useless dangerous punch. I'll never understood it. It was my trainers belief and then I thought about it and hes right. This should not be taught and I see tons of fighters do this

Can anyone explain???
Mayweather does it and he's #1 P4P, that tells you your trainer is a moron.

pioterbezkitu
10-08-2007, 02:02 PM
I'm not a boxer but I think that its a useful weapon if your the bigger, stronger but much slower man in the ring and your opponent is too quick to jab him to the head. If you have the big power you can catch his attention jabbing him to the chest and then follow with something big to the head.

Illstate
10-08-2007, 02:06 PM
When I was training, this was a cardinal rule..never jab to the body..it is the most useless dangerous punch. I'll never understood it. It was my trainers belief and then I thought about it and hes right. This should not be taught and I see tons of fighters do this

Can anyone explain???A lot of fighters can do things that's dangerous or considered a bad thing to do if they know they can get away with it. Some fighters can even drop their hands below the waist and get away with it.
Not many athletes stick to the fundementals anymore after they get to a certain level and find what works for them

Imperial1
10-08-2007, 02:08 PM
Vargas threw jabs to Wright's body and at times it forced him to drop his guard ..It can be used effectivly if timed right ..A jab is the only punch that can dictate an entire fight if thrown correctly ..It all depends if you have a snapping jab or a lazy when it comes to effectiveess ..

chimba
10-08-2007, 02:09 PM
Mayweather does it and he's #1 P4P, that tells you your trainer is a moron.

Youre very smart thanks, and I tell you without that jab to the body Floyd is a bum:good

thewoo
10-08-2007, 02:09 PM
A jab to the body can be vry effective. It distract your opponent and opens him up top for something else.

chimba
10-08-2007, 02:13 PM
A jab to the body can be vry effective. It distract your opponent and opens him up top for something else.

I guess its because Im a bit slow:D But I heard this also albeit from a substandard boxing source like the UFC :rofl When liddle lost to Rampage he came in with this weak shit to Jacksons body and then Boom!

Rickypr18
10-08-2007, 02:13 PM
Youre very smart thanks, and I tell you without that jab to the body Floyd is a bum:good
Thank you for your compliments. You make me feel special.

Stinky gloves
10-08-2007, 02:14 PM
When I was training, this was a cardinal rule..never jab to the body..it is the most useless dangerous punch. I'll never understood it. It was my trainers belief and then I thought about it and hes right. This should not be taught and I see tons of fighters do this

Can anyone explain???
Jab is sometimes a setup for the next power shot.
If you jab to the head then opponent automatically rise gloves to block.
If jou jab to the body then sometime he lower the guard and if you
are fast enough you can sucessfully follow to the head ....

Slicknick56
10-08-2007, 02:14 PM
jab to the body is very useful it brings down the guard and u can go up to the head.

joe the great
10-08-2007, 02:15 PM
Jabbing to the body is okay. If you do jab to the body remember to lower your head in case of a counter right hand.

chimba
10-08-2007, 02:15 PM
Thank you for your compliments. You make me feel special.

Were cool coz you like Cotto:good

LogDog69
10-08-2007, 02:18 PM
Yea a fight that just popped into my head is Glenn Johnson/George Jones. In the first round Johnson drops him with first a left jab to the body and when Jones dropped his hands down BOOM! Johnson dropped him with a straight right to the head. Perfect example of how the jab to the body works. :bbb

Rickypr18
10-08-2007, 02:20 PM
Were cool coz you like Cotto:good
Cool then. Miguel "The Jawbreaker" Cotto is gonna retire Shane "Balco" Mosley.

chimba
10-08-2007, 02:21 PM
I like bending low at the knees and squatting down low when executing a jab to the body, Floyd and Zahir Raheem do it well. Doing so allows you to spring up quickly just in case a counter is coming your way.

Still a dangerous move though, gotta be quick...if youre a plodder forget it..

BewareofDawg
10-08-2007, 02:21 PM
Mayweather does it and he's #1 P4P, that tells you your trainer is a moron.
Owned :deal

Danny Ocean
10-08-2007, 02:22 PM
jabbing to the body can make your opponent quickly lower his guard to his stomach which allows you to follow up with a right hook

josak
10-08-2007, 02:22 PM
Tyson did it. You gotta have quick hands apparently.

Rickypr18
10-08-2007, 02:24 PM
Tyson did it. You gotta have quick hands apparently.
Fo' sho'

chimba
10-08-2007, 02:25 PM
Owned :deal

get the Fth fuck Out with your owned shit...:rofl Its kickboxing coach and theres merit to it this is an intelligent discussion:deal

Rickypr18
10-08-2007, 02:28 PM
Owned :deal
Yeah get the Fth fuck out. Whatever that means.

marting
10-08-2007, 02:50 PM
I feel it's a dangerous punch best left to the extremely quick handed and even then only on rare occassions. Done consistently it can get you countered with a right and since you're coming in the counter can be dire.

Sugar Ray Robinson used a slight variation where he would bend deeply at the waist and shoot a jab at the gut and roll back up in one fluid motion.

africandawg
10-08-2007, 02:52 PM
FLOYD's exceptional at it--a quick jab to the navel area has stopped a number of his lanky opponents in their tracks momentarily--turning offence into uncertain defence also winding you in varying degrees...

achillesthegreat
10-08-2007, 02:53 PM
JAbbing to the body saps someones strength. It keeps them at range. You can feint to the head and come downstairs. Some guys carry their hands high.

Floyd kd a guy with it.

Your trainer is wrong.

chimba
10-08-2007, 02:58 PM
Great discussion!
Man everyone mentiones Floyd I see a valid argument though because,..Basically if youre pretty ordinary..Dont even try...:lol:

joe the great
10-08-2007, 03:20 PM
JAbbing to the body saps someones strength. It keeps them at range. You can feint to the head and come downstairs. Some guys carry their hands high.

Floyd kd a guy with it.

Your trainer is wrong.
I know that you shouldn't stand upright when jabbing to the body.

pugilistspecialist
10-08-2007, 04:15 PM
Great discussion!
Man everyone mentiones Floyd I see a valid argument though because,..Basically if youre pretty ordinary..Dont even try...:lol:

jabbing to the body is all about timing. Its sets up power shots to the head, or gets you close enough inside to throw harder shots to the body. Im not nearly as talented as Mayweather and I havent had my first official amatuer boxing match but I have success with this in my arsenal(Been training for a year and a half with plenty of sparring). I have good handspeed but its only half the battle...what it does is drop the hands which is key and feinting would help before throwing the jab to the body as well. Also dont confuse those MMA strikers to real boxers. Most the guys who are strikers were glass jawwed never-was boxers or martial artists who couldnt make it in a singular fight system

codeman99998
10-08-2007, 04:20 PM
Mayweather does it and he's #1 P4P, that tells you your trainer is a moron.
Roy Jones was also p4p #1 and there is a lot of things he did that no one should ever do, unless they are Roy Jones.

Naseem Hamed was a great fighter and he did a lot of things that no one should ever do, unless they are Naseem Hamed against someone who is not Marco Antonio Barerra.

Still though, a jab to the body is a legitimate punch.

achillesthegreat
10-08-2007, 04:23 PM
I know that you shouldn't stand upright when jabbing to the body.
Yeah, you don't want your chin up because your head is there for the taking. A good fight, like Floyd, slips to the side to avoid all incoming shots. At the same time he has his opponent at arms length. Boxers tend to do that. Brawlers like Cotto tend to throw a power jab to the body. They don't really get low and step behind it, they just punch down. I believe he was countered badly by Corley for doing this.

codeman99998
10-08-2007, 04:23 PM
get the Fth fuck Out with your owned shit...:rofl Its kickboxing coach and theres merit to it this is an intelligent discussion:deal

Kickboxing is VERY VERY different from boxing. You don't want to jab to the body because a correct jab to the body lowers your whole level.

You aren't supposed to just throw a jab to the body from standing upright, it's not a downward punch. You are supposed to lower your whole level and throw the punch straight to the body.

In kickboxing, this opens you up to devastating head kicks, because your head is much lower, it is easier to land a great kick. It's not the same.

achillesthegreat
10-08-2007, 04:24 PM
Kickboxing is VERY VERY different from boxing. You don't want to jab to the body because a correct jab to the body lowers your whole level.

You aren't supposed to just throw a jab to the body from standing upright, it's not a downward punch. You are supposed to lower your whole level and throw the punch straight to the body.

In kickboxing, this opens you up to devastating head kicks, because your head is much lower, it is easier to land a great kick. It's not the same.
This is correct. If you watch Vitor Belforts boxing video, you will see him explain as much.

codeman99998
10-08-2007, 04:26 PM
This is correct. If you watch Vitor Belforts boxing video, you will see him explain as much.

Yes. It is one of the primary reasons that MMA fighters don't go to the body near as much as boxers.

Oh, that and BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO SKILLZ THEY ARE FAG LOSERS BLAH BLAH !!11one

Dorfmeister
10-08-2007, 04:34 PM
El Rey has put it properly and I second everything he said. But in order not to make it that "odd" in your mind, chimba, remember about boxing's basics - art of hitting an opponent from the furthest distance away, exposing the least amount of your body while getting in position to punch with maximum leverage and not getting hit - so if you think calmly you'll see that it doesn't say where you should hit, of course you know where you can't hit ( or shouldn't if you want to be that clean). Sometimes that move comes with your own rhythm and the way you want to control your opponent on the defensive, keeping clear to you, to him and to anyone else that you are doing something and that he isn't, out-boxing, out-manoeuvre, out-wit, out-punch are terms you can use... I like to jab to the body when a guy has a high arm defense and it is as useful and effective as leading to the head, double jabbing to the body and head or jabbing to the body, take a step back and following up to the head with a cross punch, makes me feel in control... I agree with Rickypr18 ( but not so aggressive toward Chimba, we r not here to prove we know best or r we?) that Mayweather masterfully executes that move with fluid movement, clinical precision and composite of nerve.

tliang1000
10-08-2007, 05:20 PM
When I was training, this was a cardinal rule..never jab to the body..it is the most useless dangerous punch. I'll never understood it. It was my trainers belief and then I thought about it and hes right. This should not be taught and I see tons of fighters do this

Can anyone explain???


Your trainer didn't tell you why? You may want to find a new trainer if he is witholding information. The reason is obvious.... Most pro boxer fight flat footed and does not like to bend their knees so when they shoot their jabs to the stomach they get countered by leaving their head wide open. You should always bring your defense with you and bend ur knees so your head is hiding somewhat behind your punch shrinking your target to your opponent. He was probably a flated footed fighter who got nailed shooting punching at his opponent's stomach.

It is a good advice if you are not agile, or quick but if you are then it opens a new set of attacks.

TL

Ring Master
10-08-2007, 05:25 PM
When I was training, this was a cardinal rule..never jab to the body..it is the most useless dangerous punch. I'll never understood it. It was my trainers belief and then I thought about it and hes right. This should not be taught and I see tons of fighters do this

Can anyone explain???

That's crazy. Watch PBF - Corrales and see what a stick to the body can do. Also listen to Foreman as he explians what that jab to the body does to a fighter.

gutto
10-08-2007, 05:52 PM
Imo Theres Nothing Wrong Wit A Jab To Gut As Long As You Bend Your Legs Legit Punch Imo

rendog67
10-08-2007, 05:55 PM
I think it is a fighters instict to throw different punches they are probably not planned most of the time

smbsmd
10-08-2007, 06:18 PM
When I was training, this was a cardinal rule..never jab to the body..it is the most useless dangerous punch. I'll never understood it. It was my trainers belief and then I thought about it and hes right. This should not be taught and I see tons of fighters do this

Can anyone explain???

well imo jab also has "aiming" functions, so when you jabbed once or twice and you feel the distance you can land a long right hand or something. Also a body jab, still makes guy put his hands a bit down automatically and after that you can get his head.

Burundanga
10-08-2007, 06:33 PM
Let's not forget ... you CAN hurt someone with a jab to the body ...

Jennifer Love Hewitt
10-08-2007, 07:29 PM
A quick, well placed jab to the body is a great weapon. It can get an opponent to drop the guard just enough to set up a nice punch to the head.