On the eve of the Hopkins bout there is still discussion of Jones vs Silva

[The Mighty One]

Who would win in a boxing match? Could Anderson knock out Jones and win? Would Roy outbox and eventually wear Silva down?

[jimmie]

Jones would destroy Silva.

[HENDO]

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This was against an amateur boxer at Wild Card who was basically clueless and obviously a begginer.

Fast foward to 9 minutes.

[HENDO]

I think Roy beats him.

[The Mighty One]

Silva can knock out anyone with a quick punch and with either hand. Roy has no chin.

[HENDO]

Silva can knock out anyone with a quick punch and with either hand. Roy has no chin.

He didn't look like a big puncher in that video.

And this sport is boxing. The guys in this sport are conditioned to take punches.

And even if Silva is a big puncher, he makes a lot of technical mistakes that Roy could capitalize on, who by the way is a bigger puncher than Silva.

And even Roy at this stage in his career, is the better athlete and more explosive.

But what it really comes down to is experience.

Silva just doesn't have it, and you can tell by looking at his form and the way he conducts himself in the ring against the amateur fighter above.

[Flexb]

Silva can knock out anyone with a quick punch and with either hand. Roy has no chin.

Yea Silva can knock guys out in the UFC, but a pro boxer dude? And one of the best of all time? Roy would make him look like a kid

[T.C.W]

Will not happen, This will be RJJ last fight, hopkins will KO Roy and he will be finished.

[codeman99998]

In a kickboxing or Muy Thai match it would be all Silva but Silva isn't a pro boxer by any means and RJJ would beat him handily unless Roy is ever more badly faded than I think.

Silva might be the single best striker in MMA but that isn't the same as being the best boxer. It's likely that Silva is no where near conditioned to box for 12 rounds. Not that boxing 12 3 minute rounds is harder than fighting 5 5 minute rounds, just that it is completely different. For instance, against Calzaghe Jones threw nearly 500 punches and had nearly 1000 punches thrown at him... I just doubt very much with so limited experience that Silva could beat Jones even way past his prime.

I think GSP has a better chance of winning an olympic medal in wrestling, to be honest, and it is far from sure that he can even make the team, last I heard.

[Tuffnutz]

He didn't look like a big puncher in that video.

And this sport is boxing. The guys in this sport are conditioned to take punches.

And even if Silva is a big puncher, he makes a lot of technical mistakes that Roy could capitalize on, who by the way is a bigger puncher than Silva.

And even Roy at this stage in his career, is the better athlete and more explosive.

But what it really comes down to is experience.

Silva just doesn't have it, and you can tell by looking at his form and the way he conducts himself in the ring against the amateur fighter above.
According to Roach Silva only went at 30 or 40% in the Wild Card in his opinion.

how do you know that that guy hes sparing is an amateur either?

All I knows is that he's a heavyweight.

[HENDO]

To put things into perspective, look at the speed that Jones still has even at this age.

He is a phenomenal athlete.

And Anderson Silva doing a poor man Roy Jones impersonation in the ring, who himself had obvious technical flaws, spells disaster.


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Especially considering you can see how raw Silva looks when he's sparring the amateur in this video.


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[HENDO]

According to Roach Silva only went at 30 or 40% in the Wild Card in his opinion.

how do you know that that guy hes sparing is an amateur either?

All I knows is that he's a heavyweight.

A) Do you have a source for that?

B) Even if he was going 30% which is doubtful, because how would you determine that, he showed obvious flaws in his game which would be exploited by a seasoned boxer. You can tell he's trying to immitate Roy Jones which isn't the best idea to begin with, but doesn't have anywhere near the athleticism that Roy Jones posesses, even at this stage in his career. Which, isn't a knock on Silva, it's just that Roy is phenomenal athlete. But it's also why he got rocked at 9:00 and if he didn't have head gear on, probably would have been down.

C) The guy is obviously an amateur because he's talking to his corner and doing things in the ring to make it clear that he's obviously a begginer. You did watch the video right? He's asking his trainer things that only a guy who is just starting would ask.

[Flexb]

Sorry, but you gotta be a fukin retard to even compare Silva's boxing abilities against an ATG boxer such as Roy, let alone any contender in professional boxing. Give your head a shake

[TheBradyHawkes]

Jones

[Rebel]

even Jones of today would school anderson in a boxing match

[(PimpThaSystem)]

It only takes one big punch to break Roy these days and Silva has proven power plus he is a big dude. I don't see this fight going well for a way past it Roy Jones.

[(PimpThaSystem)]

A) Do you have a source for that?

B) Even if he was going 30% which is doubtful, because how would you determine that, he showed obvious flaws in his game which would be exploited by a seasoned boxer. You can tell he's trying to immitate Roy Jones which isn't the best idea to begin with, but doesn't have anywhere near the athleticism that Roy Jones posesses, even at this stage in his career. Which, isn't a knock on Silva, it's just that Roy is phenomenal athlete. But it's also why he got rocked at 9:00 and if he didn't have head gear on, probably would have been down.

C) The guy is obviously an amateur because he's talking to his corner and doing things in the ring to make it clear that he's obviously a begginer. You did watch the video right? He's asking his trainer things that only a guy who is just starting would ask.

A) Silva isn't known to be a workout warrior and you can tell he plays around a lot in the ring and doesn't try to hurt the other guy.

B) Silva's chin is crazy strong. Headgear doesn't do much to soften punches, especially to the chin. You see how Silva laughed it off and didn't even try to get back at the guy?

C) Yeah he was probably an amateur but I don't see why this all should matter. This was a sparring session and not much more. Don't try to read into it too deeply.

[achillesthegreat]

Roy Jones would dominate and humilate Silva but now who knows. The guy is not what he was. He's been past it for years now.

[Popkins]

Jones's skillset will make this look like what it is - pro vs amateur.

However, his chin is a weakness and it's not impossible that Silva could knock him out. He most definitely has a puncher's chance, especially considering he will outweigh Roy by a significant amount on the night.

[HENDO]

A) Silva isn't known to be a workout warrior and you can tell he plays around a lot in the ring and doesn't try to hurt the other guy.

B) Silva's chin is crazy strong. Headgear doesn't do much to soften punches, especially to the chin. You see how Silva laughed it off and didn't even try to get back at the guy?

C) Yeah he was probably an amateur but I don't see why this all should matter. This was a sparring session and not much more. Don't try to read into it too deeply.

A) Silva could work out 10 times a day fore rest of his life and he still wouldn't be half the athlete Roy Jones is. Macky Shilstone, who's trained thousands of athletes in sports like basketball, football, boxing, etc, said Roy was THE BEST ATHLETE he's ever worked with. So again, not a knock on Silva, just the cold hard truth.

Also, I've seen Silva in a real boxing match, and you can tell where he gets his influence from, and it's why he has several defensive flaws with his particular style. He's basically trying to be Roy Jones, but the fact is, he's not Roy Jones. And even Roy Jones who is who is a much better athlete than Silva is geting caught these days, so what do you think is going to happen to Silva? And he didn't appear to be a big puncher in that particular fight, nor in the fight where he fought the amateur at wildcard.

B) I would say Silva has a questionable chin at best in boxing considering his first loss in BOXING was by KO. Sure, he took a big punch in that wild card bout, but it was against an amateur. So the real question is, why is an amateur landing huge punches like that?

C) The fact that the guy was not only an amateur, but obviously a begginer means a lot. Imagine if BHop got knocked out by a guy who was just starting in the gym. But you think it's safe to throw Silva in there with Jones, when it's obvious he was having trouble with an amateur?

THE POINT is, Anderson is great in MMA, but BOXING and MMA are two different sports. And in boxing, he doesn't have the experience necessary to compete at elite levels, nor is he defensively sound. He simply doesn't have the athleticism necessary to be who he wants to be in the sport of boxing. He would have to make some significant changes in his style and that is only done through EXPERIENCE which is what he does NOT have.

I'm not going to pretend to know anything about MMA, but I do know boxing, and if you throw Silva in with Roy, Roy will toy with him and then knock him out.

[(PimpThaSystem)]

A) Silva could work out 10 times a day fore rest of his life and he still wouldn't be half the athlete Roy Jones is. Macky Shilstone, who's trained thousands of athletes in sports like basketball, football, boxing, etc, said Roy was THE BEST ATHLETE he's ever worked with. So again, not a knock on Silva, just the cold hard truth.

Also, I've seen Silva in a real boxing match, and you can tell where he gets his influence from, and it's why he has several defensive flaws with his particular style. He's basically trying to be Roy Jones, but the fact is, he's not Roy Jones. And even Roy Jones who is who is a much better athlete than Silva is geting caught these days, so what do you think is going to happen to Silva? And he didn't appear to be a big puncher in that particular fight, nor in the fight where he fought the amateur at wildcard.

B) I would say Silva has a questionable chin at best in boxing considering his first loss in BOXING was by KO. Sure, he took a big punch in that wild card bout, but it was against an amateur. So the real question is, why is an amateur landing huge punches like that?

C) The fact that the guy was not only an amateur, but obviously a begginer means a lot. Imagine if BHop got knocked out by a guy who was just starting in the gym. But you think it's safe to throw Silva in there with Jones, when it's obvious he was having trouble with an amateur?

THE POINT is, Anderson is great in MMA, but BOXING and MMA are two different sports. And in boxing, he doesn't have the experience necessary to compete at elite levels, nor is he defensively sound. He simply doesn't have the athleticism necessary to be who he wants to be in the sport of boxing. He would have to make some significant changes in his style and that is only done through EXPERIENCE which is what he does NOT have.

I'm not going to pretend to know anything about MMA, but I do know boxing, and if you throw Silva in with Roy, Roy will toy with him and then knock him out.

Dude your delusional for putting so much thought into a sparring session. Have you ever sparred before. Surely you know its not a real fight, correct?

Silva's gained a lot of experience and put on a lot of weight since his boxing days. You realize the guy he was fighting was a heavyweight right? And he still ate that shot like it was a piece of chocolate cake.

Roy Jones at 41 is NOT elite competition. I don't like the term 'shot' because its vague and somewhat demeaning, but with Roy it fits perfectly. He just got steamrolled by former super middleweight. What do you thinks gonna happen when a 6'2 200 lb + Silva gets to him, Silva having knocked out guys who would be heavyweights in boxing with his hands?

[HENDO]

Dude your delusional for putting so much thought into a sparring session. Have you ever sparred before. Surely you know its not a real fight, correct?

Silva's gained a lot of experience and put on a lot of weight since his boxing days. You realize the guy he was fighting was a heavyweight right? And he still ate that shot like it was a piece of chocolate cake.

Roy Jones at 41 is NOT elite competition. I don't like the term 'shot' because its vague and somewhat demeaning, but with Roy it fits perfectly. He just got steamrolled by former super middleweight. What do you thinks gonna happen when a 6'2 200 lb + Silva gets to him, Silva having knocked out guys who would be heavyweights in boxing with his hands?

Are we still arguing this?

Silva may be 6'2'' 200 lbs, but he has a softer body than Jones, doesn't hit as hard as Jones, isn't near as fast as Jones, doesn't have Jones' balance or experience, hasn't fought anybody, is getting hit clean with huge shots, by not just amateurs, BEGGINNERS, and tries to immitate Roy Jones' style in the ring.

His flaws are obvious to me, and the majority of it has to do with his defense. Jones will Toy with Silva. In fact the Trinidad that fought Jones would knock Silva out. Silva has no business getting in the ring with guys like Jones or Trinidad for that matter, regardless of whether or not they are past their best.

And you say he's been knocking people out, but who are these people? What boxing experience do they have? Knocking out wrestlers and submission guys or strikers that couldn't cut it in boxing isn't the same thing is knocking out guys like Jones.

You are severly overestimating Silva's boxing ability. Maybe if he was defensively sound and had some experience, you would be on to something. But the guy that was getting his head knocked around by an amateur at the Wild Card gym would get toyed with and knocked out by Jones.

He is so open for lead left hooks, which is Jones bread and butter, maybe not against elite competition at this stage, but against a guy like Silva, for sure, that if this fight were to occur, people would think Jones is in his prime again.

There is a reason why this fight isn't happening. Same as there is a reason why Jones isn't fighting in the octagon. He doesn't have any experience wrestling and would look like a complete amateur, same as Silva in boxing.