What do you honestly think of this?

[tommygun711]

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[KillSomething]

Hang your bag lower.

Spend more time with your trainer :)

How old are you?

[Johnboy2007]

HAng your bag a bit lower. You throw alot of hooks left then right just clubbing away at the bag but sometimes when you throw the hand that isnt throwing is dropping away from your chin and your open. Try standing more side on to the bag instead of square and thinking about defense. Pretend the bag hits back and throw more jabs rather than just swinging away at it.

And like the above said listen to your trainers and keep practicing

[tommygun711]

HAng your bag a bit lower. You throw alot of hooks left then right just clubbing away at the bag but sometimes when you throw the hand that isnt throwing is dropping away from your chin and your open. Try standing more side on to the bag instead of square and thinking about defense. Pretend the bag hits back and throw more jabs rather than just swinging away at it.

And like the above said listen to your trainers and keep practicing
Yeah I love throwing hooks :). To be honest when I'm on the bag I'm usually inside and you can't really throw a jab like that. so I stick with hooks and uppercuts because those are the ideal inside punches. You would never be able to extend your arm at that distance. I do think that I should jab more though. That means I have to back up :P Yeah I think it's a little high, I'm going to hang it lower. Yeah my trainer often says that my left hand drops a lot. I'm going to have to work on that.
Thanks

[Johnboy2007]

Yeah I love throwing hooks :). To be honest when I'm on the bag I'm usually inside and you can't really throw a jab like that. so I stick with hooks and uppercuts because those are the ideal inside punches. You would never be able to extend your arm at that distance. I do think that I should jab more though. That means I have to back up :P Yeah I think it's a little high, I'm going to hang it lower. Yeah my trainer often says that my left hand drops a lot. I'm going to have to work on that.
Thanks


Disagree you should be working on jabbing your way inside then throwing hooks then jabbing on the way out. Winging away with hooks like your doing in that vid is not inside fighting sorry mate. Work on that jab. You dont need to fully extend everytime the jab is flexible. Use it short and sharp keep em guessing why limit yourself

[GPater11093]

One thing is too keep your chin down when punching.

Personally I only use bag work to get fitter, so I either throw lots of punches, or work on the technique of a certain punch and basically through it over and over again.

[tommygun711]

Disagree you should be working on jabbing your way inside then throwing hooks then jabbing on the way out. Winging away with hooks like your doing in that vid is not inside fighting sorry mate. Work on that jab. You dont need to fully extend everytime the jab is flexible. Use it short and sharp keep em guessing why limit yourself
I thought inside meant close to the man/bag. meaning you would have to use hooks/ or uppercuts. yeah you don't need to fully extend but it shouldn't be a half punch or it won't be as long and it won't be as effective.
anyways, that's how you actually fight, not how you might work on a heavybag. you cant jab backwards when you punch a heavy bag :think.. Since the heavybag doesn't pursue you.

[hopkinsfan07]

Woaa you look real young.

Gotta tighten up them hooks abit, there a little wide. Need to keep training hard so you are faster, sharper and more power.

[tommygun711]

thanks Hopkinsfan!
I agree my hooks can get a little wide haha but at least that maybe gets more power and have a little more range on them lol

[Johnboy2007]

I thought inside meant close to the man/bag. meaning you would have to use hooks/ or uppercuts. yeah you don't need to fully extend but it shouldn't be a half punch or it won't be as long and it won't be as effective.
anyways, that's how you actually fight, not how you might work on a heavybag. you cant jab backwards when you punch a heavy bag :think.. Since the heavybag doesn't pursue you.


doesnt matter maybe im not being clear enough but i dont know how else to explain it apart from you are saying your working on the inside on the bag but your just standing infront of it winging away with hooks thats not working on the inside and your too open

[Bodi]

I'll give you some advice - listen to the above advice regarding jabs! If you don't jab, you will never get anywhere in boxing... you don't start a round in the middle of the ring, fighting on the inside... you have to get there, and you do that by working your way inside, usually off a jab. If you need to back up to make room for a jab, you are in the wrong position in the first place - start on the outside with jabs and straight rights, and work your way to the inside from there. What's the first punch you learn in boxing... it's the jab... have a think about why this is.

Trust me, if you insist on staying on the inside, you will never get anywhere. one other thing... LISTEN to advice, and follow it.

[Johnboy2007]

I'll give you some advice - listen to the above advice regarding jabs! If you don't jab, you will never get anywhere in boxing... you don't start a round in the middle of the ring, fighting on the inside... you have to get there, and you do that by working your way inside, usually off a jab. If you need to back up to make room for a jab, you are in the wrong position in the first place - start on the outside with jabs and straight rights, and work your way to the inside from there. What's the first punch you learn in boxing... it's the jab... have a think about why this is.

Trust me, if you insist on staying on the inside, you will never get anywhere. one other thing... LISTEN to advice, and follow it.


see i just needed someone to explain it better than i could lol. You should be getting in there (by jabbing the way in) getting off your shots on the inside which doesnt mean standing in front of the bag and winging away pretend that bag hits back! And then you should be getting out of there ideally by jabbing your way out and using angles and pivoting off. And thats over simplifying it as it is lol


I love my heavy bag its great but it does lure you into a false sense of security and head movement and thinking about punches coming back goes out of the window. Always pretend its a live active opponent that wants to knock your head off :good

[tommygun711]

I'll give you some advice - listen to the above advice regarding jabs! If you don't jab, you will never get anywhere in boxing... you don't start a round in the middle of the ring, fighting on the inside... you have to get there, and you do that by working your way inside, usually off a jab. If you need to back up to make room for a jab, you are in the wrong position in the first place - start on the outside with jabs and straight rights, and work your way to the inside from there. What's the first punch you learn in boxing... it's the jab... have a think about why this is.

Trust me, if you insist on staying on the inside, you will never get anywhere. one other thing... LISTEN to advice, and follow it.
I know. But this is a heavybag and doesn't really move or attack me at all. You can't take this for reference of what I might do in an actual boxing match. I know that jabbing is more important then inside work, that's obvious. Being inside is important too or you might get pounded on your body like Ali did all the time since he didn't really have any inside game. Sparring is a little different because the opponent actually is stalking you or backing off. It's much easier to use a jab there.
I'll have to put up some sparring vids

[Johnboy2007]

just thought id add its just practice mate you asked for constructive criticism and you got it, its up to you if you take it on board or not! Keep working hard you obviously love it!:good

[Johnboy2007]

I know. But this is a heavybag and doesn't really move or attack me at all. You can't take this for reference of what I might do in an actual boxing match. I know that jabbing is more important then inside work, that's obvious. Being inside is important too or you might get pounded on your body like Ali did all the time since he didn't really have any inside game. Sparring is a little different because the opponent actually is stalking you or backing off. It's much easier to use a jab there.
I'll have to put up some sparring vids


then your doing it all wrong always train like your going to fight that bag is an opponent that will hit you back on the button and leaving your chin in the air and winging away isnt going to help. You will end up keeping those bad habbits in the ring and get clocked

[Johnboy2007]

I know. But this is a heavybag and doesn't really move or attack me at all. You can't take this for reference of what I might do in an actual boxing match. I know that jabbing is more important then inside work, that's obvious. Being inside is important too or you might get pounded on your body like Ali did all the time since he didn't really have any inside game. Sparring is a little different because the opponent actually is stalking you or backing off. It's much easier to use a jab there.
I'll have to put up some sparring vids


Bodi gave you some sound advice and youve ignored it basically. Lol you asked for constructive criticism

[tommygun711]

then your doing it all wrong always train like your going to fight that bag is an opponent that will hit you back on the button and leaving your chin in the air and winging away isnt going to help. You will end up keeping those bad habbits in the ring and get clocked
Okay...
Unless I'm going hitting the bag for stamina and strength or just to keep fit like the guy above said. :tong
yeah, just kidding. But i honestly do spar differently then that. :thumbsup

[Johnboy2007]

Okay...
Unless I'm going hitting the bag for stamina and strength or just to keep fit like the guy above said. :tong
yeah, just kidding. But i honestly do spar differently then that. :thumbsup


okay up to you.... im out lol

last thing if your doing it for fitness and stamina which do you find hard 2 mins sparring or 2 mins hitting the bag like your doing. Im guesssing you find sparring harder??? So wouldnt you want to make the bag work as realistic to sparring as possible as in movement pretending to slip a punch angles ect ect believe me its a hell of a lot more tiring mentally and physically than standing in front of a bag swinging away at it

but like i said im out mate youve already made up your mind on how to do it before you posted you just wanted people to say wow your really good on the bag

but non the less like i said good luck and keep working hard :good

[Kevin_Wright]

I'm fairly new to boxing, but I would say slow down a little bit. Work on technique. Speed will come.

[GPater11093]

I know. But this is a heavybag and doesn't really move or attack me at all. You can't take this for reference of what I might do in an actual boxing match. I know that jabbing is more important then inside work, that's obvious. Being inside is important too or you might get pounded on your body like Ali did all the time since he didn't really have any inside game. Sparring is a little different because the opponent actually is stalking you or backing off. It's much easier to use a jab there.
I'll have to put up some sparring vids

:rofl:rofl

[Bodi]

I know. But this is a heavybag and doesn't really move or attack me at all. You can't take this for reference of what I might do in an actual boxing match. I know that jabbing is more important then inside work, that's obvious. Being inside is important too or you might get pounded on your body like Ali did all the time since he didn't really have any inside game. Sparring is a little different because the opponent actually is stalking you or backing off. It's much easier to use a jab there.
I'll have to put up some sparring vids

Never mind "but this, that and the other... this bag doesn't attack" crap. Fact is, shit form is shit form period, shit tactics are shit tactics period, shit combinations are shit combinations period... what you are doing is shit, end of. I don't mean to come across hard on you but what you are doing and what you are saying is going to get you hurt in a very bad way.

Fact is, you don't have the skills, knowledge or experience to tell me, or any of the other more well informed posters on here what is what. First thing that you need to do is listen... than you need to learn in a structured and controlled manner, which is starting off with your stance, which is shit, then your basic footwork, which is also shit, then your control of range, which is also shit, then your basic punch form, which is also shit, then your combinations, which are also shit, then your defence, which also appears to be shit... then you need to tie it all together and work on the bag keeping all of these factors in mind before you throw a single punch. I'm going to spell it out one more time for you... what you are doing is utter shite, and you need to cut it our before the bad habits which you are already displaying become ingrained.

What you need to do is read this message very closely (and most of the others), go away and digest what has been said to you, and then go and apply the information that has been given to you. Also, stop coming out with excuses like "this bag doesn't do this, that and the other" - fact is, with the form that you are displaying, you have absolutely no business hitting ANY bag - sort your form with SLOW and controlled SHADOWBOXING.

If you choose not to heed this advice, please let me know when your first fight is so I can bet my lifetimes savings on you getting sparked with an uppercut.

Once again, apologies if this comes across as harsh, but boxing is a brutal, unforgiving sport, so sometimes one has to be cruel to be kind.

[Johnboy2007]

Never mind "but this, that and the other... this bag doesn't attack" crap. Fact is, shit form is shit form period, shit tactics are shit tactics period, shit combinations are shit combinations period... what you are doing is shit, end of. I don't mean to come across hard on you but what you are doing and what you are saying is going to get you hurt in a very bad way.

Fact is, you don't have the skills, knowledge or experience to tell me, or any of the other more well informed posters on here what is what. First thing that you need to do is listen... than you need to learn in a structured and controlled manner, which is starting off with your stance, which is shit, then your basic footwork, which is also shit, then your control of range, which is also shit, then your basic punch form, which is also shit, then your combinations, which are also shit, then your defence, which also appears to be shit... then you need to tie it all together and work on the bag keeping all of these factors in mind before you throw a single punch. I'm going to spell it out one more time for you... what you are doing is utter shite, and you need to cut it our before the bad habits which you are already displaying become ingrained.

What you need to do is read this message very closely (and most of the others), go away and digest what has been said to you, and then go and apply the information that has been given to you. Also, stop coming out with excuses like "this bag doesn't do this, that and the other" - fact is, with the form that you are displaying, you have absolutely no business hitting ANY bag - sort your form with SLOW and controlled SHADOWBOXING.

If you choose not to heed this advice, please let me know when your first fight is so I can bet my lifetimes savings on you getting sparked with an uppercut.

Once again, apologies if this comes across as harsh, but boxing is a brutal, unforgiving sport, so sometimes one has to be cruel to be kind.

I would go one further on the advice side and say for now take the bag down get a big mirror and use that space in your house to shadow box and more shadow boxing. And when you think your good enough to go on the bag .... dont just shadow box lol

[tommygun711]

Never mind "but this, that and the other... this bag doesn't attack" crap. Fact is, shit form is shit form period, shit tactics are shit tactics period, shit combinations are shit combinations period... what you are doing is shit, end of. I don't mean to come across hard on you but what you are doing and what you are saying is going to get you hurt in a very bad way.

Fact is, you don't have the skills, knowledge or experience to tell me, or any of the other more well informed posters on here what is what. First thing that you need to do is listen... than you need to learn in a structured and controlled manner, which is starting off with your stance, which is shit, then your basic footwork, which is also shit, then your control of range, which is also shit, then your basic punch form, which is also shit, then your combinations, which are also shit, then your defence, which also appears to be shit... then you need to tie it all together and work on the bag keeping all of these factors in mind before you throw a single punch. I'm going to spell it out one more time for you... what you are doing is utter shite, and you need to cut it our before the bad habits which you are already displaying become ingrained.

What you need to do is read this message very closely (and most of the others), go away and digest what has been said to you, and then go and apply the information that has been given to you. Also, stop coming out with excuses like "this bag doesn't do this, that and the other" - fact is, with the form that you are displaying, you have absolutely no business hitting ANY bag - sort your form with SLOW and controlled SHADOWBOXING.

If you choose not to heed this advice, please let me know when your first fight is so I can bet my lifetimes savings on you getting sparked with an uppercut.

Once again, apologies if this comes across as harsh, but boxing is a brutal, unforgiving sport, so sometimes one has to be cruel to be kind.
I doubt it
welll..... in that case thanks your your criticism.. Jesus:yep..

I said Ali had no ingame because it seemed like every time someone came close to him like joe frazier he would hold his head down and clinch. That's not really in fighting. He fought at a distance and moved away with his jab.

[RDJ]

I doubt it

Agreed. It could be any other punch really.

[Bodi]

Agreed. It could be any other punch really.

:rofl

I have to beg to differ on this one though, RDJ. There is no way that it could be a jab or straight right as one would need to back up to make the room to throw it, and as this boy clearly suggests, boxers can only move in one direction... forwards. I still maintain it will be an uppercut, but a short hook might also be on the agenda.

[KillSomething]

Laughing my ass off reading this, but keep in mind he's just a kid. That said, he ALSO needs to keep in mind that he's just a kid. Bad habits are almost impossible to cure, and every time you do something wrong it's going to bite you in the ass a few years down the road or sooner.

'Inside fighting' isn't necessarily synonymous with 'throwing hooks.' You want to lean forward with your chin tucked and throw quick, short, sharp punches. You're leaning backwards and winging big, slow, wide shots. See how the bag swings all around? It isn't because you're hitting it hard, it's A.) because it's too high, and B.) because you're pushing your punches. Once you start fighting the bag like a real opponent inside, it will barely move, and that's a good thing.

I stand by my original prescription: More time with a trainer. You should work the bag in front of him a lot so he can steer you in the right direction. You should be doing most if not all of your boxing WITH YOUR TRAINER PRESENT. If you still have energy to hit the bag on your own, then you didn't do enough in the gym ;) Nothing wrong with a little shadowboxing and HEAD MOVEMENT while you're at home though.

[Bodi]

Kids that don't listen grow up to be adults who can't string a sentence together past the age of 30. Like I said, boxing can be a cruel and unforgiving sport. Far too many people come into boxing with an attitude of 'I know best'... you always see these kids later in life and they amount to nothing more than punchbags.. journeymen fighters who routinely take bad beatings for a paycheck that doesn't usually cover their medical expenses. This kid has been given solid advice by a number of people, yet he keeps coming back with excuses... he has to listen, otherwise he will get hurt.

This kid has age on his side. He has a chance to learn, and possibly get somewhere, but he isn't going to do it with his attitude.

[tommygun711]

Kids that don't listen grow up to be adults who can't string a sentence together past the age of 30. Like I said, boxing can be a cruel and unforgiving sport. Far too many people come into boxing with an attitude of 'I know best'... you always see these kids later in life and they amount to nothing more than punchbags.. journeymen fighters who routinely take bad beatings for a paycheck that doesn't usually cover their medical expenses. This kid has been given solid advice by a number of people, yet he keeps coming back with excuses... he has to listen, otherwise he will get hurt.

This kid has age on his side. He has a chance to learn, and possibly get somewhere, but he isn't going to do it with his attitude.
Yeah i intentionally started this early in boxing so i can get rid of these supposed bad habits quickly

[Bodi]

Yeah i intentionally started this early in boxing so i can get rid of these supposed bad habits quickly

Well, it appears that we are getting somewhere... good.

Couple of points for you:

You don't come into boxing with bad habits - most people start boxing with no idea of proper form - there is a big difference. The bad habits that you have are most likely are result of either a poor trainer/no trainer or you are not listening to your trainer/advice.

You only get rid of bad habits by going back to the basics, and rebuilding, but even this is not easy. How quickly you get rid of these bad habits depends on how quickly you acknowledge them, and stop training with poor form - this is why I said that you need to cut out the excuses... a punchbag doesn't give you bad form... you not knowing how to punch properly, and then repeatedly punching with improper form is where you reinforce poor form.

I'll give it one more go at giving you advice that will set you on the right path. Completely disregard everything that you are doing, and ask you coach to sort your stance... don't need a punchbag for your stance, just focus on remaining in a good, well balanced, strong stance. Then start moving one step at a time until you can work your way comfortably around a ring whilst remaining completely on balance. Just keep in your mind, step, slide and pivot. Remain in guard as you move. I'll leave it there as you don't need to be looking to progress any further until you have these points down to a fine art - you need to feel co-ordinated and in control of every movement. Once you are competent at moving, then look at some jabs, but not before.

For your fitness, plenty of running and bodyweight exercises will be ample for you. Also maintain your agility through agility drills and don't forget flexibility as it is massively important.

[GPater11093]

I doubt it
welll..... in that case thanks your your criticism.. Jesus:yep..

I said Ali had no ingame because it seemed like every time someone came close to him like joe frazier he would hold his head down and clinch. That's not really in fighting. He fought at a distance and moved away with his jab.

Really? That is all you see when you watch an Ali fight?

That is a past prime Ali, and what he did on the inside was effective, is smothering your opponent not a tactic, therefore an inside game. Also he used to flurry on the inside more often that not.

Yeah i intentionally started this early in boxing so i can get rid of these supposed bad habits quickly

Well listen to the adivce, in this thread you are just making excuses for bad habits and not adressing them. You think Mayweather got to where he was by making excuses?

Well, it appears that we are getting somewhere... good.

Couple of points for you:

You don't come into boxing with bad habits - most people start boxing with no idea of proper form - there is a big difference. The bad habits that you have are most likely are result of either a poor trainer/no trainer or you are not listening to your trainer/advice.

You only get rid of bad habits by going back to the basics, and rebuilding, but even this is not easy. How quickly you get rid of these bad habits depends on how quickly you acknowledge them, and stop training with poor form - this is why I said that you need to cut out the excuses... a punchbag doesn't give you bad form... you not knowing how to punch properly, and then repeatedly punching with improper form is where you reinforce poor form.

I'll give it one more go at giving you advice that will set you on the right path. Completely disregard everything that you are doing, and ask you coach to sort your stance... don't need a punchbag for your stance, just focus on remaining in a good, well balanced, strong stance. Then start moving one step at a time until you can work your way comfortably around a ring whilst remaining completely on balance. Just keep in your mind, step, slide and pivot. Remain in guard as you move. I'll leave it there as you don't need to be looking to progress any further until you have these points down to a fine art - you need to feel co-ordinated and in control of every movement. Once you are competent at moving, then look at some jabs, but not before.

For your fitness, plenty of running and bodyweight exercises will be ample for you. Also maintain your agility through agility drills and don't forget flexibility as it is massively important.

Excellant post.

[Kevin_Wright]

One of the first things I learned that helped me was that boxing is not fist fighting. Huge difference between a "school yard" boxing match. And boxing. Maybe this gem can help you?

[Johnboy2007]

really hope you listen to the advice given itll serve you well

[difO]

you need to tighten it up as your punches are a bit wide

spend more time with the trainer

also work on speed, not so much hand speed but you seem to cock your shoulder/that area back a lot before punching

[Slacker]

OK... lots of things.

The good.

1. You are having fun, and that is key for sticking with it. Keep that up.

2. All that work is getting you in good condition. Keep that up.

3. You are moving around the bag. Keep that up.


The not so good:

1. You are off balance throwing your shots, and that reduces your power tremendously. Ask your trainer to show you basic stance and footwork. It is where you start. Otherwise you are thrashing the bag with arm punches and doing no damage. Also, if you take a punch off balance, you are going down on your butt with the quickness.

2. Many times you are not looking at the target. Keep your eye on the target and punch slower, concentrate on form. Power comes from the proper form. Speed comes from repetition of that proper form. Start slow and work your way up, otherwise all that work is for nothing.

3. Learn things in phases. Start with the stance, then footwork (stepping, circling) then the jab, then the straight right, etc..

4. Once you learn how to stand, move and punch, put them together in combination. Practice them in slow motion on the bag until your movement is correct. Concentrate on transferring your weight, which is where your power comes from, keeping your eye on the target, landing flush punches and then recovering to your guard.

I'll be happy to answer any questions if you message me.

Good luck.

[vibit]

OK... lots of things.

The good.

1. You are having fun, and that is key for sticking with it. Keep that up.

2. All that work is getting you in good condition. Keep that up.

3. You are moving around the bag. Keep that up.


The not so good:

1. You are off balance throwing your shots, and that reduces your power tremendously. Ask your trainer to show you basic stance and footwork. It is where you start. Otherwise you are thrashing the bag with arm punches and doing no damage. Also, if you take a punch off balance, you are going down on your butt with the quickness.

2. Many times you are not looking at the target. Keep your eye on the target and punch slower, concentrate on form. Power comes from the proper form. Speed comes from repetition of that proper form. Start slow and work your way up, otherwise all that work is for nothing.

3. Learn things in phases. Start with the stance, then footwork (stepping, circling) then the jab, then the straight right, etc..

4. Once you learn how to stand, move and punch, put them together in combination. Practice them in slow motion on the bag until your movement is correct. Concentrate on transferring your weight, which is where your power comes from, keeping your eye on the target, landing flush punches and then recovering to your guard.

I'll be happy to answer any questions if you message me.

Good luck.

Item 3 under the not so good... awesome advise for those guys who rush into things.

[Slacker]

Words of wisdom from my coach. He's always telling me, "Slow down, don't worry about power. Power and speed will come later. Worry about doing it right."

[tommygun711]

thanks for the advice
can someone close this thread

[RDJ]

thanks for the advice
can someone close this thread

I could but I see no reason to.

[tommygun711]

because I've been taking it slower on the bag and I no longer want your advice so please close it.
I guess you guys can keep posting advice, I'm no gonna look at it anymore.

[Johnboy2007]

because I've been taking it slower on the bag and I no longer want your advice so please close it.
I guess you guys can keep posting advice, I'm no gonna look at it anymore.

no its cos youve been exposed and you want to keep posting advice on other threads and being taken seriously which you know if people are going to read this they wont take you seriously

[tommygun711]

no its cos youve been exposed and you want to keep posting advice on other threads and being taken seriously which you know if people are going to read this they wont take you seriously

not at all. I wouldn't post a thread about advice and then post on other threads giving my own advice? that's stupid.
so seriously get off my case. I don't think I would be giving advice because people already know on a rookie. what do you mean I've Been exposed? you mean I exposed myself by posting a YouTube of myself hitting the heavybag? I was just looking for advice but a boxing forum clearly isn't a good place for that.

[Bodi]

Well, the kid has had a hard ride in this thread... mostly by me, but he 'appears' to have turned a corner... good stuff.

Tommygunn - I would suggest to you that this is only the beginning of your journey. If you genuinely have listened and are applying the advice that has been given, good for you, but don't let it stop there. For a young fighter, this forum is a valuable resource, with access to many well informed people with regards to training, diet, injuries etc right at your fingertips. Believe it or not, many people that post here are here to help the likes of you. All most of us ask is that people listen, otherwise we feel like we are wasting our time trying to help, and that can be very annoying. Stick with it... tenacity is a good thing for a fighter to have. Keep on working and asking questions, and you will improve.

If you choose not to continue to use this facility, all I can say is that I hope that you have learned one thing... and that is the importance of listening to good advice. If nothing else, this should set you in good stead for the future.

[tommygun711]

Well, the kid has had a hard ride in this thread... mostly by me, but he 'appears' to have turned a corner... good stuff.

Tommygunn - I would suggest to you that this is only the beginning of your journey. If you genuinely have listened and are applying the advice that has been given, good for you, but don't let it stop there. For a young fighter, this forum is a valuable resource, with access to many well informed people with regards to training, diet, injuries etc right at your fingertips. Believe it or not, many people that post here are here to help the likes of you. All most of us ask is that people listen, otherwise we feel like we are wasting our time trying to help, and that can be very annoying. Stick with it... tenacity is a good thing for a fighter to have. Keep on working and asking questions, and you will improve.

If you choose not to continue to use this facility, all I can say is that I hope that you have learned one thing... and that is the importance of listening to good advice. If nothing else, this should set you in good stead for the future.
maybe your right. but there's no better place to get advice then at a gym. I just want to let you guys know that i'm really not that wild when I'm sparring or when I hit the heavybag in general. i just think me taking it easy for 2 minutes on the heavybag would generally be a little boring. that's partcially why I was throwing hooks and uppercuts all over the place :twisted::twisted::twisted:!!
To prove it to myself, Last night I stayed up a little later then usual and boxed more "professionally" on the heavybag for 30 minutes and found myself not very tired. I only flurried or as Johnny would say . Winging away with hooks. Not only do I burn energy faster, but you create bad habits like many of you said. :hey I only flurried on the way out when I was done with it. And I made an effort not to use my hooks as much, even know it is clearly my strongest punch.
All in all, thanks for all your advice guys, specially Bodi. Even though I was a little prick half of the time on this thread you guys still said right advice.

[Youngblood]

ya got the yabuts man.

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[Kevin_Wright]

because I've been taking it slower on the bag and I no longer want your advice so please close it.
I guess you guys can keep posting advice, I'm no gonna look at it anymore.
Do you seriously think you are the only person who can benefit from this thread?

[vibit]

Do you seriously think you are the only person who can benefit from this thread?

Agreed... we all can learn from this thread.

Some of the guys have made very valid points. I often learn not just from my own mistakes but that of others as well.

[wordisbond]

I do not believe the kid posted video on here to actually receive advice. That being said, he's just a young kid. Let him mature a bit before cats get on his case.

And Tommy, you might want to get a new screen name just to get a fresh start.

[Johnboy2007]

I do not believe the kid posted video on here to actually receive advice. That being said, he's just a young kid. Let him mature a bit before cats get on his case.

And Tommy, you might want to get a new screen name just to get a fresh start.

nah man ill let it go im sorry i was overly harsh, it was just hard at first tommy cos you seemed to just be disregarding everything. I apologize for being too harsh i did mean it good luck with everything hope it goes well. Youve obviously got the enthusiasm :good

[AnthonyW]

You definitely need a lower bag. :D My advice would be to keep off the weights for now, work on your defense and hand speed. Instead of just standing in front of the bag and unleashing wild hooks, use lateral movement, throw your jab constantly, more straight punches aswell, working your way onto the inside before you start throwing your hooks. Tighten those hooks up, aswell as keeping your chin down when you throw them, thats a knockout waiting to happen.

All of this may have already been said, but I havn't got time to read through all the comments. :good

[Johnboy2007]

maybe your right. but there's no better place to get advice then at a gym. I just want to let you guys know that i'm really not that wild when I'm sparring or when I hit the heavybag in general. i just think me taking it easy for 2 minutes on the heavybag would generally be a little boring. that's partcially why I was throwing hooks and uppercuts all over the place :twisted::twisted::twisted:!!
To prove it to myself, Last night I stayed up a little later then usual and boxed more "professionally" on the heavybag for 30 minutes and found myself not very tired. I only flurried or as Johnny would say . Not only do I burn energy faster, but you create bad habits like many of you said. :hey I only flurried on the way out when I was done with it. And I made an effort not to use my hooks as much, even know it is clearly my strongest punch.
All in all, thanks for all your advice guys, specially Bodi. Even though I was a little prick half of the time on this thread you guys still said right advice.

just thought id add:good:good just read this properly. There is nothing wrong with going for it on the bag though i would suggest what you do is spend majority of the time on the bag concentrating on proper form and technique and then do a few rounds or as many as you can doing punch out drills. I would use mainly straights though not hooks. And just pump out as many as you can in 2 or 3 mins if your worried about fitness. But honestly mate technique is king! Good luck with everything and ill shut up now lol:thumbsup

[tommygun711]

I do not believe the kid posted video on here to actually receive advice. That being said, he's just a young kid. Let him mature a bit before cats get on his case.

And Tommy, you might want to get a new screen name just to get a fresh start.
you're right. i didnt expect to have so much advice. i honestly didn't think it would get so many hits.
no.
i don't care if people already know about this video. ive made so many posts already its pointless to request a name change.

[gilly]

stay in behind your punches,chin down!why are you punching so high?aim more for your head height.throw more jabs!mix up your speed..light & fast 5-10 punch combo.. hard heavy shots 1-3 punches.

[hopkinsfan07]

Tommy man guys like you are really hard to coach, im one of the more experienced guys at my gym and give a little advice here and there. It's really hard when you talking to a guy and he is answering back with what he thinks.

Sometimes just nod and take on what is said, try out what they said and if it does not work for you then fine. Always take into account what people say first though, its hard to judge your own work...an outside view on things is very valuable. It's why boxers dont train them self!!

Im saying this because i used to be exactly the same, it took me a while to stop being an armchair expert and just listen to the guys who have been doing it for years.

[Johnboy2007]

Tommy man guys like you are really hard to coach, im one of the more experienced guys at my gym and give a little advice here and there. It's really hard when you talking to a guy and he is answering back with what he thinks.

Sometimes just nod and take on what is said, try out what they said and if it does not work for you then fine. Always take into account what people say first though, its hard to judge your own work...an outside view on things is very valuable. It's why boxers dont train them self!!

Im saying this because i used to be exactly the same, it took me a while to stop being an armchair expert and just listen to the guys who have been doing it for years.

:good:good:good:good:good best advice given on this thread and not just for the original poster!!!!

[RDJ]

:good:good:good:good:good best advice given on this thread and not just for the original poster!!!!

Seconded.

[Relentless]

wow you suck, i dont even know where to start

how about you join a gym?

[vibit]

:good:good:good:good:good best advice given on this thread and not just for the original poster!!!!

thirded

[wordisbond]

you're right. i didnt expect to have so much advice. i honestly didn't think it would get so many hits.
no.
i don't care if people already know about this video. ive made so many posts already its pointless to request a name change.

There is nothing to be ashamed about in the video, it is your ATTITUDE on this thread that has turned people off, and may discourage them from helping you in the future. Add that to the fact that your form is purely garbage and this is a perfect recipe for ridicule.

[tommygun711]

wow you suck, i dont even know where to start

how about you join a gym?

yeah...
how about you get off my thread.

[Smudger]

Your straight punches are not straight.

[billy boy balbo]

ok now i did not read through all the other posts but a few things bud
1. you had no head movement or lateral movement
2.i can tell that your stance is not correct your to square
3.keep the chin down and hands touching the side of your chin
4.due to your stance issue your throwing alot of arm punches,punches should be from the core
5.when throwing the uppercuts eg right uppercut head,you should tilt to your right side pecindiccullar to the floor.
6.dont stop the bag dead with your hand,you would not do this with a opponent so why do it with a bag
7.calm down with the combos,circile the bag on a 2 step ,jab,double jabs,straight one twos ,say for one round then step up jab ,hook ,uppercut,start working the body setting up your punches eg double jab dip right uppercut head,right uppercut body

[bald_head_slick]

Just about everything has been said about the boxing. I will just say you have pretty good taste in music! :good

[wordisbond]

^ I was thinking the same thing. I was mad surprised to hear that beat in the background. He must have an older brother or something.

[Relentless]

Just about everything has been said about the boxing. I will just say you have pretty good taste in music! :good

why dont you just marry him then.

[Relentless]

yeah...
how about you get off my thread.

do you know who you're talking to son?

i should ban your ass right now!:twisted: