Gamboa/Barros, Kretschmann/Bakhtov II ~ RBR

[TFFP]

Anybody watching? Polsat Sport.

Looks like Juan Carlos Gomez on at the moment.

[Guy]

Didn't know Gamboa was fighting, what's his opponent like?

[ishy]

Yep, Oral and Gomez have bough fought.

Gomez looked really fleshy.

[TFFP]

2 Eurobums ATM. Hopefully this is the last of the undercards.

[GPater11093]

starts in 2 hours on German TV, so cant imagine Gamboa being on till then.

[GPater11093]

actually the german are advertising Bachtov vs Kretschmann maybe they wont show Gamby

[ishy]

The fight on at the moment is really boring.

[Guy]

Just the way they like it

[ed7890]

What time will the Gamboa fight be on?

[VHB]

stream?

[evodata]

Anyone know if this is on in the UK?

[Guy]

no it's not on in the U.K

[evodata]

or the net?

[vick_ramalot]

not sure if it works from outside germany but official stream is on [Only registered and activated users can see links]

[Chillman]

If the weblink doesn't work just pay your nearest friend with a satellite dish a visit, it's free to air on SAT.1 right now

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

[KingCobra]

Yeah, just waiting for it to start.

[KingCobra]

Does Barros have a snowballs chance in hell?

[Chopper]

any other links? the german one didnt work.

[TFFP]

Guys don't ask for links except for legal ones if you value your not being banned. I'd edit the posts.


Gamboa coming in.

[MagicMan91]

Just read Gomez was 25 lb heavier than the Klitschko fight...bloody hell

[KingCobra]

Whats Barros like? Any good?

[Guy]

Just read Gomez was 25 lb heavier than the Klitschko fight...bloody hell


Obviously needed a little more poke in his punches. :yep

[TFFP]

Rd 1 - Extremely cautious start by Gamboa standards. Barros looks solid, nothing special, didn't do anything in that round. But concentrated well not to make mistakes. Looked a little flustered by Gamboa's flurry at the end. Gamboa on work-rate.

1-0 Gamboa

[saintsmike]

Round 2 - Gamboa 10-9 - Got caught with a decent right hand by Barros but manages to catch him with a couple of decent punches, there's hardly any action whatsoever. Gamboa is being extra cautious and doing lots of feints, he doesn't look as fast as usual. Stay tuned folks this one may go a few..

[TFFP]

Rd 2 - The most interesting observation I can make is Gamboa has strange shorts, German flag on the front, Cuban on the back. Gamboa just starting to find a rhythm but far from his whirlwind best. Not much coming from Barros. He's having no trouble holding centre ring but he ain't doing shit but looking for the occasional jab. He needs to realize he can't wait for the perfect opportunity, the more tickets you buy the more chance of winning the lottery.

2-0 Gamboa

[rooq]

gamboa bringing it R3....though a little sloppy by his standards

[faisal]

this guy is no bitch

[KingCobra]

Gamboas movement is awesome.

[saintsmike]

Round 3 - Dominant round for Gamboa, really let his hands go at the beginning and Barros was hanging on, Barros doesn't offer little or no offence but has enough heart to hang in there and expierence to hold on when neccessary. Gamboa started to showboat towards the end with the Ali Shuffle dominant round Gamboa 10-9

[TFFP]

Rd 3 - Gamboa upped the gears, we're seeing more marauding flurries from him now. Barros taking them well but you couldn't claim he looks untroubled. Barros just isn't doing a whole a whole lot and the crowd seem to be voicing their displeasure.

3-0 Gamboa

[saintsmike]

Finally Barros catches Gamboa rushing in with a couple of good hooks. But Gamboa is dominating with ring movement and handspeed, but really this isn't a great performance by his standards and Barros offers not much at all and stays static. I'm starting to sense Gamboa is just happy to finish this whenever he really wants to turn up the heat.

Round 4 Gamboa 10-9

[TFFP]

Rd 4 - Gamboa is such a natural in the ring, very relaxed. Upper body movement, head movement, hands down out of range but back up when closer. The pick of the action was probably his bodywork in this round. His timing to the head is a little off I feel. No signs Barros is wilting but he's simply not doing anything.

4-0 Gamboa

[TFFP]

Rd 5 - This was the first round Barros was truely competetive in. He let some punches fly at last. Gamboa seems happy to get the rounds in, he's not overly taxing himself to get this dude out of there. Maybe as Barros gets more ambitious he'll get his chance.

5-0 Gamboa

[saintsmike]

Round 5 - Barros lands another couple of decent shots and is starting to gain a bit more confidence, it's evident that both fighters timing and accuracy this fight is totally off. Gamboa is winning on a more evident work-rate, but Barros is gaining confidence and trying to time Gamboa coming in. Like I said it's gonna go a few.

Gamboa 10-9 (could be even)

[KingCobra]

Close round.

[TFFP]

Rd 6 - Almost a sparring session tempo to this fight. Not vintage Gamboa, certainly. The main difference is he is firing mostly single shots instead of his usual barrage. He did enough with his movement and potshotting in this round to win comfortably. No signs Barros is going anywhere.

6-0 Gamboa

[saintsmike]

Round 6

First 2 and a half minutes consisted of.. Gamboa posing - Barros looking gormless missing a swing or two, Gamboa with a little combination, then hit the back of Barros's head. Then Gamboa steals the mediocre round with a combination towards the end.

Gamboa needs to stop the showboating.

Gamboa 10 -9

[bladerunner]

Sounds like the kind of fight the germans love.

[saintsmike]

Round 7 BARROS WINS A ROUND SHOCKER! - Gamboa getting lazy and letting Barros get inside where he manages to hit Gamboa with some fairly decent hooks, Gamboa seems lazy and unmotivated almost like he doesn't care, and Barros almost hits him with a few hail mary's hayemakers, and Gamboa tries to showboat again and almost got hit by some hooks.

Barros 10- 9

[TFFP]

Rd 7 - Gamboa might have won this on defence alone. Lovely head movement. Barros making a more concerted effort to put on some pressure now. Unfortuntely Gamboa's head movement thwarts all his attacks and makes him look foolish. Gamboa outboxed him the last 2 mins of the round after a promising start by Barros. Barros complained a few times about being hit on the back of the head

7-0 Gamboa

[TFFP]

Barros down, mouthpiece out

[KingCobra]

Wow. Better from Barros. Gave Gamboa something to think about!

[saintsmike]

Beautiful shot by Gamboa brings Barros down, Gamboa goes in for the kill, Barros covers up and holds on for dear life and then fights back well towards the end of the round, and even caught Gamboa. A fight has finally broken out.

Gamboa 10-8

[TFFP]

Rd 8 - Finally a great round! Gamboa knocked him down early with a flurry. He flurried him to death for this round, Barros was struggling to survive on the ropes. But he did. And then he caught Gamboa with a big shot and Gamboa looks dazed, he grabs on!! Round end comes at the right time for Gamboa, incredible considering the start to the round. Still a 10-8 Gamboa mind.

8-0 Gamboa

[Dan684]

Just out of curiosity TFFP would it not be 9/-0 now for Gamboa :lol:

Good RbR by the way, thanks a lot (Ishy should take note :lol:)

[faisal]

gamboa has a suspect chin

[TFFP]

Rd 9 - Things starting to look real interesting. Suddenly its not a walk in the park for Gamboa. Looks a little tired, his reflexes are fading, and he's being caught. Steady pressure from Barros, maybe this was the masterplan, take him into deep waters. First round for him on mine but has 3 rounds to make something happen.

8-1 Gamboa

[saintsmike]

Barros round I think again, Gamboa got cocky and got caught a few too many times and wasn't really hitting Barros with anything. Whilst Gamboa's reflexes are impressive I think he's still a little shaken from the last round, he's really not performing well at all. Fair play to Barros whose making Gamboa work for it now.

I'll go with an even round though..

10-10

On second thoughts Barros won that one. 10-9

[Flea Man]

Maidana sounds clued up on Cayo. Go Maidana!

I was right about Wonjongkam! Go Wonjongkam!

Abraham in the 9th. One shot. Boring until then with Dirrell being negative and landing on gloves but Abraham not landing anything. BOOM! Abraham cuts through The Matrix with a right hand.

Keep me posted on the Gamboa fight, am just making up for lost time :rofl

[Flea Man]

Maybe Gamboa took this assignment too lightly?

What's he doing wrong in particular? Just reckless?

[TFFP]

Doctor in for Gamboa, called accidental headbutt. Think he'll get through this.

[MagicMan91]

Gamboa looks like he just wants some rounds under his belt after blowing away Mtagwa

Still in first gear IMO but winning easily

[TFFP]

Rd 10 - Feels like a missed opportunity for Barros. He may have won it, but...he needs a KO. He didn't put the sustained pressure on his achieved in the previous round, must be still wary of Gamboa's power. Did cut Gamboa with the accidental butt, so hope for him. Needs to make something happen.

8-2 Gamboa

[Flea Man]

This sounds like a good fight for Gamboa.

Better this than another walkover IMO, I'll look forward to watching this round me Polish mates in the morning :good

[faisal]

gamboas scared of getting ko'd

[kosaros]

gamboas scared of getting ko'd

That's why he has his arms down and is using his reflexes to dodge punches? :think

[TFFP]

Rd 11 - One of the better rounds, Barros is bringing it hard now. Why didn't he do this earlier? Gamby is REALLY fucking tired. But he sees the finishing line now. If Barros worked harder early he'd be well in this. But as it is Gamboa is riding it out. Good back and forth round, maybe lean towards Barros on ring generalship. Gamboa wasn't in control really.

8-3 Gamboa

[Flea Man]

So in my short absence a new troll has emerged.....

Interesting.

[Dan684]

He's been on a couple of weeks mate. I don't think he's a troll mate as i'm sure he's made a few good posts i've noticed, just a bit daft it seems. Lay off tough guy :lol:

[faisal]

they both wanted to kill each other

[Flea Man]

Tough guy?!?

No one is tough on the Internet :deal :good

[Havik]

Looked to me as if Gambao hadn't prepared for this fight. He didn't look too good. Ah well, he got UD, I can't imagine him being robbed here.

[TFFP]

Rd 12 - Fair play to Gamboa. He could have rode this one out but he just traded. He seemed to lose punching form in his tiredness but he stunned Barros briefly. Very good heart shown by Gamboa to battle hard when he didn't need to there, dangerous but it paid off. Barros comes out with credit, but will regret not doing more earlier. First half of the fight was a sparring session but it really warmed up quite nicely, a slow burner.

9-3 Gamboa with one 10-8 round. Do the math I can't be assed.

[saintsmike]

Well done Barros he gave Gamboa some problems and some respect he'll probably be a good gatekeeper for the future.
Solid Chin, and very good heart and his boxing isn't that bad either.
Gamboa needs to go back to the table and stop the showboating, but the expierence of 12 rounds where he didn't have things all his own way will bode well for the future.
Luckily he wasn't in with JML otherwise I fear for Gamboa if he fights again like that. He has to stop fighting with his hands down as well.

[TFFP]

Looked like there was going to be a fracas after the bell but they came to sense and embraced.

[TFFP]

Well done Barros he gave Gamboa some problems and some respect he'll probably be a good gatekeeper for the future.
Solid Chin, and very good heart and his boxing isn't that bad either.
Gamboa needs to go back to the table and stop the showboating, but the expierence of 12 rounds where he didn't have things all his own way will bode well for the future.
Luckily he wasn't in with JML otherwise I fear for Gamboa if he fights again like that. He has to stop fighting with his hands down as well.
Yeah but Juanma had a fight just like that against Mtagwa where he struggled at the end badly. A whole lot worse than Gamboa did tonight.

118-109
118-109
116-111

Gamboa

[kerrminator]

MC Called him "still the WBA flyweight" lol

[Guy]

First 12th round of his career

Thanks for the RBR btw

[Flea Man]

What does the future hold for the opponent? Surely this fight will benefit him as well?

[loginistooshort]

MC Called him "still the WBA flyweight" lol

:lol:
I thought I heard him wrong.

[TFFP]

What does the future hold for the opponent? Surely this fight will benefit him as well?
He looked okay to be honest. Defended himself quite well and took the shots well. Kinda 'Steady Eddie' type that puts on some pressure. He will have regrets about letting Gamboa getting such a comfortable start because he had him in deeper waters late.

[Flea Man]

You're a good analyst of a fighter, sound for that :good

as I've been away, how do you see all of tonights big fights going?

Guzman showing himself to be a tosser again. Kerry Kayes-Amazing conditioner :lol: did they think no one would notice. Funeka UD I reckon, the extra weight will only make Guzman less mobile and slow like he was in the first fight, he hasn't generated any real power since 122.

[GPater11093]

his opponent did alright, good movement and game. Tried to win but Gamboa was coasting and too quick. He was unimpressive

tell me guys when Kretshmen is on

[faisal]

gamboa isnt as great as many on esb hype him up to be he fights only on reflexes and speed and hes 29 he has zero infighting skills you cant teach an old dog new tricks when he gets to 32-33 he'll be antonio tarvared

[GPater11093]

KO artist

Gamboa is an amazingly talented fighter, he just looked shit tonight, and I did think Gamboa looked like he wanted to go the distance - afew times he eased back when he had his man hurt

[Flea Man]

I really don't understand what kinda analysis that is supposed to be.

[TFFP]

You're a good analyst of a fighter, sound for that :good

as I've been away, how do you see all of tonights big fights going?

Guzman showing himself to be a tosser again. Kerry Kayes-Amazing conditioner :lol: did they think no one would notice. Funeka UD I reckon, the extra weight will only make Guzman less mobile and slow like he was in the first fight, he hasn't generated any real power since 122.
Yep I think Funeka will win. Guzman had to come up with something special to reverse the first fight and coming in overweight is not going to help contrary to popular belief. He'll lose speed, and it suggests he hasn't trained all that well.

I'm not going to lie I havn't researched Cayo so I would be hesitant to make a prediction particularly since he is undefeated.

I'll take Dirrell to beat Abraham.

[Flea Man]

gamboa isnt as great as many on esb hype him up to be he fights only on reflexes and speed and hes 29 he has zero infighting skills you cant teach an old dog new tricks when he gets to 32-33 he'll be antonio tarvared

And yet I bet you think Valero's the dogs bollocks.

[GPater11093]

I really don't understand what kinda analysis that is supposed to be.

who mine?

Gamboa is a dirty cunt at times, just the way he was pushing and hitting on breaks and looked to start a fight at the end of the fight. Something about him that has 'bully mentality' written all over it

[faisal]

gparter i thought he was trying to get in rounds tonight but when it got to round 8 he wanted to end the affair and he nearly did and when the argentine landed the hayemaker he looked helpless, there for the taking.
imagine if juan manuel lopez landed a swinging right hook on him he'd have gone down for sure,

[GPater11093]

Dirrel WILL win tonight

[Flea Man]

Yep I think Funeka will win. Guzman had to come up with something special to reverse the first fight and coming in overweight is not going to help contrary to popular belief. He'll lose speed, and it suggests he hasn't trained all that well.

I'm not going to lie I havn't researched Cayo so I would be hesitant to make a prediction particularly since he is undefeated.

I'll take Dirrell to beat Abraham.

Only seen Cayo against a shot Julio Diaz. I'm not entirely convinced but I think it's gonna be a quality fight. Just have a feeling, Maidana by K.O.

I don't think Dirrell will dare to do what is needed to pierce that defence: stepping into his shots. He may win rounds by peppering Abrahams guard and not shipping any shots in return but I think Abrahams fast hands will land will much more potency than Froch managed.

I see him winging in one of those big lefts, merely to bring Dirrell into position for the right. Game over.

I f'n hope so anyway, Abraham is a beast and my pick to win the tournament.

[Flea Man]

Gamboa will decimate JuanMa.

[faisal]

And yet I bet you think Valero's the dogs bollocks.
hes a fighter waiting to be schooled i hope they make the fight with bradley it would be the biggest pwning of 2010 he gets exposure over nothing not 1 recognised name to his resume he just beat up a mexican kid who was barely a top 10 contender thats his best win and to make matters worse he beats up on his beautiful wife and poor old mother so NO i dont think he's the ''dogs bollocks'' if theres a fighter i want to see badly streched its him

[GPater11093]

That sBacktov in the ring now, I will have to shoot and watch it.

Flea, avater bet that Dirrel will win?

[Dan684]

I think Dirrell win win tonight. Surely if the Froch fight has taught him anything then it will be that he can't expect to run for the majority of the fight and/or hold and then still expect to take away a fighters belt. He had the beating of Froch that night and has nobody else to blame for that but himself. Froch seems to be such an akward man to figure out though at times, he is so unorthadox.

Fighting off the back foot and putting on displays of good defensive fighting is one thing, but he won't be able to run from Abraham for the whole 12 so I expect him to take it to Arthur early, building up a nice early lead and then ride out a tough points win.

Or Abraham fucks him up :lol:

[GPater11093]

KO artist do you like any boxer?

You called Small a clown, clearly dislike Gamboa and dont like Valero.

[GPater11093]

That pulsing light with the heart beat sounds are an amazing intro.

Dirrel beat Froch anyway

[LHL]

This Kretschmann fight is taking long

[kosaros]

Gamboa will decimate JuanMa.

I think JuanMa will take him tbh, I have always thought that since the fight was mooted (and not based on Gamboa's performance tonight).

Oh and Abraham to stop Dirrell in about 8 rounds :good

[Flea Man]

KO Artist, you have got me on side with that Valero analysis pal :lol:

Greg, two-weeks? If so, I accept :good

[TFFP]

Only seen Cayo against a shot Julio Diaz. I'm not entirely convinced but I think it's gonna be a quality fight. Just have a feeling, Maidana by K.O.

I don't think Dirrell will dare to do what is needed to pierce that defence: stepping into his shots. He may win rounds by peppering Abrahams guard and not shipping any shots in return but I think Abrahams fast hands will land will much more potency than Froch managed.

I see him winging in one of those big lefts, merely to bring Dirrell into position for the right. Game over.

I f'n hope so anyway, Abraham is a beast and my pick to win the tournament.
That's the other possibility, to be honest I'm having a real hard time with that fight, more so than any I can remember. I don't think Dirrell will do much damage either, he doesn't work the body much which is the only area I've seen Abraham been got at (Simon) due to his guard. Apart from that its difficult unless there is unreal power to break through his guard which Dirrell doesn't have.

There are question marks over Dirrell's chin, its hard to account for that because he's looked vulnerable but many fighters have looked vulnerable and stepped up to the plate, Jean Pascal was nearly KO'd by Pitman and stood toe to toe with Froch so its not always transparent. I guess I am relying on his reflexes and holding more than his chin, thats for sure. He might get caught and be game over, no amount of analysis can really save me from that possibiilty and its something that haunts me :p

[GPater11093]

Aye Flea 2 weeks.

When you away anyway is it no next week?

[GPater11093]

Kretschman will beat Haye

[faisal]

KO artist do you like any boxer?

You called Small a clown, clearly dislike Gamboa and dont like Valero.
wow i'm new to the forum so i think its a bit early to be saying that but if i'm honest i like mayweather and pacquiao at international level i reseverve my judgement for most other fighters

[TFFP]

The big German Kretschmann is in the ring. Anthems.

[kosaros]

wow i'm new to the forum so i think its a bit early to be saying that but if i'm honest i like mayweather and pacquiao at international level i reseverve my judgement for most other fighters

Glory supporter then :rofl;)

[TFFP]

Interesting odds in this fight. Kretschmann is a 1/2 favorite despite being KO'd in the first round against Bakhtov. The bookies consider it a fluke.

[LHL]

Anyone think Kretschmann will do the chicken dance again?

[Flea Man]

Man, if Dirrell tries to do anything other than run he's gonna get taken out. Badly :deal

he won't put a dent in Arthur either, so he's gonna be on his bike for the full 12.

Abraham WILL win :deal







I hope :lol:

[faisal]

Glory supporter then :rofl;)
lol neither of them r getting beat unless either face each other so i'm never gonna be at a loss

[GPater11093]

im just jostling KO artist

I misseed the first fight of these two as I was at a wedding of someone I had never met before.

This should be good IMO

[slapbangwhallop]

Interesting odds in this fight. Kretschmann is a 1/2 favorite despite being KO'd in the first round against Bakhtov. The bookies consider it a fluke.

the germans seem to love this big fecker.

Catherine Jenkins as a backin track - some show so far!

PABA CHampionship!!! :rofl

[dominic1234]

His nick name is good evening?

[TFFP]

Kretch looks a bit pensive...understandably so.

[LHL]

I remember the first fight on eurosport they were swing off Kretschmann's balls. 40 seonds later he was dancing around.

[Flea Man]

Greg, I will still be posting mate, what with the big fights whilst I'm away I won't be able to resist the temptation to post on me phone :good

[Dan684]

You dare post when your on holiday Flea !!!!!!!!!!

[slapbangwhallop]

His nick name is good evening?

I thought that that was strange myself - maybe a mispronounciation or mistranslation rather of 'Good Night'

[TFFP]

Rd 1 - Fair play to Kretch, he didn't look too nervous. Established himself well, big jab/right hand pushing him back. Bakhtov had a good old fashioned swing a few times, understandable :lol: Needs to be a little more educated.

1-0 Kretch

[Flea Man]

How big and how chinny is this guy?

[faisal]

so what time does all these fights start because i'd like to watch cayo-maidana and dirrel-abraham i want to hit the sack on time and not waste sunday on sleep

[Flea Man]

5 o clock on More 4.

[TFFP]

Rd 2 - I missed the first minute but unless something huge happened a good round for the German. He's punching with authority, right hand/jab/repeat. Bakhtov is boxing by numbers here, soaks it up, has a swing, soaks it up. They are both programmed robots, but Kretch is boxing well in a stiff kind of way, his defence is a lot tighter.

2-0 Kretch

[faisal]

5 o clock on More 4.
coolio:good

[TFFP]

Round 3 - Repeat round 2. Kretch is picking some nice counter at times though, that surprises me. Bakhtov is just too obvious, he's not working his openings, which makes it easy for Kretch to block them. He's whacking the German beanpole on the side of the head in close, good stuff.

3-0 K

[LHL]

Fuck my screen went, thanks for rbr tffp

[VHB]

Bakhtov will nail him inside.

[TFFP]

Round 4 - Lively crowd for Germany. THe ref responds by warning Bakhtov for punching Kretschmann. Better round for Bakhtov, his raids were more frequent, albeit just as crude.

3-1 K

[GPater11093]

Kretschmann is doing good, he is keeping his boxing going well. The ref isnt allowing Dennis to work though

i got it 4-1 now to the big man

[LHL]

Back on what the hell happened to Kretshmann getting hit with ease and Bakhtov not having to work his way inside

[GPater11093]

Kretsch is a nice southpaw boxer-puncher and he is picking his shots very well and mixing them to the body whih is great to see.

As TFFP says Bahktov's raid are fairly effective but he needs to be busy

[TFFP]

Round 5 - K established himself well for the first minute but the last 2 are all Bakhtov. Worryingly he's half landing now and K rarely looks comfortable under attack. I can sense the crowd are concerned, they are quieter.

3-2 Kretch

[Flea Man]

How big is he? Can't be arsed to boxrec him, trust you guys more anyway :lol:

[GPater11093]

SK down

[TFFP]

Beanpole down, bodyshot

[GPater11093]

Sk neglected jab, DB worked the body well and forced Sk to a knee.

Ref then later in the round took a point of DB for working the body, claimed kidney shot

[TFFP]

Round 6 - K started well, established his boxing, than got put down by a raid to the body. Not badly winded..not sure why he went down?! The ref compensates by taking a point from Bakhtov for...punching Kretschman to the body.

[LHL]

point off for kidney shots is the only thing i could see him getting close too. Looked ok to me. 9-8 round :huh

Kretch is wilting by the looks of it.

[Chillman]

But Bakhtov got penalized for hitting the kidneys afterwards, so only a 9-8 round for him

[GPater11093]

mentally SK has given up, hes neglecting his boxing and isnt doing much. His jab was doing a good job aswell. Fuck sake Steffan.

[TFFP]

Love the refs call of break. 'Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreak'. Sounds like a demented parrot.

[GPater11093]

DB started good raidning the body with his attacks. SK looked beat but came back well at the end with precise shots but not enough to win the round

got it 1 to SK

[TFFP]

ROund 7 was good for Bakhtov until the last 10 seconds when K landed a peach of a left hand. The judges might remember that. K looks weak though, struggle to see what he's going to be like down the stretch.

4-3 Bakhtov

[LHL]

Kretch basically trying to turn himself into a wall hoping Bakhtov hits him so much he gets tired and will eventually fall over.

[GPater11093]

DB badly hurt

[GPater11093]

Sk got his boxing going, hurt DB early with right hook to body got him in corner and landed some good shots but backed off inexplicitably. DB cam eback well but no enough.

real good fight

SK by 2

[TFFP]

Round 8 - K really went all out to KO Bakhtov in the first minute. I wonder if he's rolling the dice forseeing his downfall as he begins to tire. He did little for the rest of the round. I dunno, tough round to call. K maybe, just. Bakhtov is working that body hard (and fairly) though.

4-4

[GPater11093]

is this a 12er?

[GPater11093]

SK should have been stopped turned his back but got a standing 8, hes breaking

just quit, just quit, just like that, cant beleive it, Bakhtov hit him and he turned his back and backhtov hit him again and he just walked to his corner and cried

[TFFP]

Think K got a standing count, quite bizarre. Body shots are hurting him bad.

[TFFP]

K just fucking quit. What's happened here?

[LHL]

Whats going on?

[LHL]

Has K quit or whats this ref talking about hitting behind the head?

[GPater11093]

TFFP, what the fuck happened? I dont know.

He just turned his back, the ref dosent even know what to do hes speaking to the commisioner and Ahmet Ohner is going nuts

SK is really bruised round the neck

[TFFP]

K got hurt by a body shot, turned his back, Bakhtov hit him as he turned away. Much confusion. Ref talking in German with people ring side. I really don't know.

Both still in the ring...

[slapbangwhallop]

Whats going on?

i'm baffled brother!!!

[Flea Man]

Started crying? Is he proper chinny or something? I assume he's a special case, seems a cult figure :lol:

[Chillman]

Öner can't understand the ref's behavior, he's admitting Kretschmann quit. He doesn't want Bakhtov to get screwed! :good

The ref honestly wanted to DQ Bakhtov for hitting after the break...

[LHL]

Is it a DQ or has Kretchmann quit? Oner seems happy

[GPater11093]

Ohner is a legend wlaked in the ring and raised Baktovs hand and told the ref SK, his man, has lost and made up the refs mind for him

[TFFP]

The comissioner told the ref he's the ref and has to make the decision.

[GPater11093]

Yeh Flea, SK just broke, he couldnt handle it. He just turned his back walked away put his head against the corner and cried

TFFP, Ohner i think just said Kretschmann lost raised DBs hand and the ref is still arguing for a DQ

[TFFP]

Somebody has been DQ'd. I think Kretschman for turning.

[TFFP]

The refs doing himself no favours with the indecisiveness.

[Chillman]

K got hurt by a body shot, turned his back, Bakhtov hit him as he turned away. Much confusion. Ref talking in German with people ring side. I really don't know.

Both still in the ring...

Ref talking in German with WBA officials who don't understand a lick of it, it's kinda hilarious! :lol:
I was wondering why they appointed a German referee with no English language skills in the first place? :?

[GPater11093]

its adverts on my channel.

Kretschmann quit, should be a TKO

and it is

[TFFP]

I heard the ref say K is turning his back and he doesn't want to fight anymore. 'And still champion' he says. DB has won. Rightly so, good reffing in the end.

[TFFP]

Ohner shakes the hands of all concerned. The ref and fighters. I think he's happy with the decision. It was fairly obvious to be honest, K turned his back, that was the first infringement. A couple of times.

[GPater11093]

Ref should have called it straight away, if a boxer turns away it is a surrender

Ohner just wants a fair decision, his guy is fucked now. Did Ohner say he wont work with him again?

Regina Halmlich is tasty

[LHL]

At least he got it right

[LHL]

Ref should have called it straight away, if a boxer turns away it is a surrender

You should of been on here when Sexton done it to rogan :lol:

[TFFP]

It should go down as a TKO as the announcer said 'Kretch indicated he was in no state to continue'. Right decision.

[Flea Man]

What's the deal with this Kretschmann then? Does he not want to fight?

Anything they can work on or a Tye Fields-esque fraud?

[Chillman]

I fear this may have been the first and the last boxing broadcast on SAT.1

I'm not disputing Bakhtov's win, it was crystal clear, but it's bad business-wise cos Kretschmann's about the only German boxer in Öner's stable and SAT.1 definitely won't televise Gamboa's fights at 5 o'clock in the morning.

[GPater11093]

Ohner has gone way up in my estimations, if he wasnt there SK could have got a win

[slapbangwhallop]

Somebody has been DQ'd. I think Kretschman for turning.

if only the Crooked Brit had done the same in Sexton-Rogan I :deal

[GPater11093]

SK is a talented boxer puncher but has a bad chin and by this fight cant stand up to pressure or body shots. He aint world class but he is good to watch, but I aint watching him again.

[GPater11093]

Chillman, thank heel your on here, really made that clearer with your German speaking and picking up what the ref was saying to WBA officials.

Isnt boxing normally on ZDF, but today it is on Sat 1 and Das Erste

[TFFP]

if only the Crooked Brit had done the same in Sexton-Rogan I :deal
Think I was wrong there, the ref took it as an admission he wanted to quit so its a TKO.

Which is about right, Kretschman looked to be crying in the corner. He did NOT like them bodyshots !

[Chillman]

Öner is telling Kretsch to get another job, boxing is not for him!

He's calling him a coward for quitting the fight

[slapbangwhallop]

You should of been on here when Sexton done it to rogan :lol:

snap! :good

[LHL]

To be fair to fight Bakhtov in your 15th fight is a big risk never mind the first time they fought.

Good result Bakhtov looks game for anything

[Chillman]

Öner saying Robert Woge (the boxer whose highlights are shown now) would defeat Bakhtov in his second pro fight!
He's obviously dissing Kretsch by saying that...

[LHL]

Öner is telling Kretsch to get another job, boxing is not for him!

He's calling him a coward for quitting the fight

:lol: Sounds like someone you would want in your corner

[TFFP]

Öner is telling Kretsch to get another job, boxing is not for him!

He's calling him a coward for quitting the fight
I think he's right to be honest. Kretschmann wasn't in that much pain that he had to go down...fighters expect and should deal with bodyshots better than that. The pain is part and parcel of boxing, unless you can deal with enough punishment before it puts you down and out then its not a good sport for you. He is soft to the body too so its his own fault.

[GPater11093]

LHL, seriously i would love OHner in my corner. You know hes going to back you up but hes going to tell you the truth and keep it straight.

[GPater11093]

is that a German fleaman on Sat 1 now.

Also Chillman who is that black haired anaylist, is a former fighter cant mine his name

[TFFP]

To be honest I'd rather Haye fights Ruiz than this guy Bakhtov ! Seriously. His shots looked quite vicious and he has some handspeed. He's tough as nails too. Definitely not an easy nights work.

[GPater11093]

To be honest I'd rather Haye fights Ruiz than this guy Bakhtov ! Seriously. His shots looked quite vicious and he has some handspeed. He's tough as nails too. Definitely not an easy nights work.

He is limited though and Kretschmann at times was outboxing him, and Haye is alot quicker and a better mover than Kretschmann

[TFFP]

He is limited though and Kretschmann at times was outboxing him, and Haye is alot quicker and a better mover than Kretschmann
True. You could say the same for Ruiz though. I think Ruiz is slower than Bakhtov and probably doesn't punch as hard.

[LHL]

LHL, seriously i would love OHner in my corner. You know hes going to back you up but hes going to tell you the truth and keep it straight.

Yep he will also ring the bell when your in trouble :good

[Chillman]

Chillman, thank heel your on here, really made that clearer with your German speaking and picking up what the ref was saying to WBA officials.

Isnt boxing normally on ZDF, but today it is on Sat 1 and Das Erste

Boxing in Germany is broadcast by all 4 major networks (ARD, ZDF, RTL, SAT.1) at the moment, plus on Eurosport and DSF (another sports channel).

But ZDF is dropping Universum's boxing events by the end of July and after tonight it's highly unlikely SAT.1 will do another show in the future, this was a one off deal with Öner built around Kretsche's comeback, Gamboa was just a side show and did not deliver the KO everyone expected either.

I'll try getting some sleep now before Das Erste goes on the air with the Abraham undercard about an hour from now...

[GPater11093]

True. You could say the same for Ruiz though. I think Ruiz is slower than Bakhtov and probably doesn't punch as hard.

Hes cleverer and more experianced though, and probably forces a higher pace throughout the whole round.

Didnt Boystov beat Bakhtov

Yep he will also ring the bell when your in trouble :good

Hes just a guy who says it how it is and dosent care what anyone thinks

[GPater11093]

Katherine Jenkins is looking fine

The Kretsch-Bakhtov highlights to the tune of 'Wake me up inside' haha

[TFFP]

Hes cleverer and more experianced though, and probably forces a higher pace throughout the whole round.

Didnt Boystov beat Bakhtov



Hes just a guy who says it how it is and dosent care what anyone thinks
Don't think so, Gomez schooled him and he lost to Saul Montana by KO a few years ago.

Don't get me wrong I'm sure Haye would beat him but I'm sure Haye will beat Ruiz too, and Ruiz's power is not scaring me very much.

[slapbangwhallop]

Also Chillman who is that black haired anaylist, is a former fighter cant mine his name

I think it was a Mayer on the left and Sturm on the right

[GPater11093]

Chillman what channel in Dirrel AA on?

[Chillman]

I think it was a Mayer on the left and Sturm on the right

Markus Beyer, former WBC super middle champ

[GPater11093]

Marcos Bayer you mean, aint it? Chillman confirmed

I recognised Sturm.

[LHL]

Hes cleverer and more experianced though, and probably forces a higher pace throughout the whole round.

Didnt Boystov beat Bakhtov



Hes just a guy who says it how it is and dosent care what anyone thinks

Come on Greg did you see the Airich fight. Oner is no saint

[slapbangwhallop]

chillman what channel in dirrel aa on?

ard

[Chillman]

Chillman what channel in Dirrel AA on?

ARD (Das Erste)
Further info here:
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See ya later :hi:

[GPater11093]

Come on Greg did you see the Airich fight. Oner is no saint

What happened their? vs Williams i think i know.

Also chillman cheers will have to find it now

[slapbangwhallop]

Marcos Bayer you mean, aint it? Chillman confirmed

I recognised Sturm.

yeah thats what I meant alright. :oops:

[LHL]

What happened their?

His prospect was getting his bag beat in by Danny Williams so Oner thought he would help him out

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Its on there, maybe if tonight's fight wasn't televised we would have seen something similar

[GPater11093]

took about 2 hours but i have found the channel for Dirrel AA

[Chillman]

took about 2 hours but i have found the channel for Dirrel AA

:good ARD broadcast of the undercard begins in five minutes or so, hopefully the struggle to find the proper words in English will keep me awake all the way to the end of AA's fight...