Maidana Would Pole Axe Khan anytime anywhere any place

[faisal]

Khan will never beat maidana:nonoNo way jose:!: not after last night, cayo has much better footwork then khan and is some1 who i rate as a better fighter all round, theres no chance of khan making it out of there roach and khans crew will protect him from alexander,bradley and maidana, i think khan will fight reasonably good fighters under GBP (better then the 1's he'd have fought under ******) but dispite all of this you can rest assured they'll keep him locked away from the bad boys of 140:smoke

[Pug1list]

Yet Khan easily dealt with Kotelnik, who handled Maidana, not too sold on Maidana's chin either to be honest.

[hagman1989]

Khan will never beat maidana:nonoNo way jose:!: not after last night, cayo has much better footwork then khan and is some1 who i rate as a better fighter all round, theres no chance of khan making it out of there roach and khans crew will protect him from alexander,bradley and maidana, i think khan will fight reasonably good fighters under GBP (better then the 1's he'd have fought under ******) but dispite all of this you can rest assured they'll keep him locked away from the bad boys of 140:smoke


maidana can bang and has a good chin but khan will stick and move and just quite frankly box his ears off

[Beeston Brawler]

Not if Khan hit Maidana first :deal

[LHL]

Khan will never beat maidana:nonoNo way jose:!: not after last night, cayo has much better footwork then khan and is some1 who i rate as a better fighter all round, theres no chance of khan making it out of there roach and khans crew will protect him from alexander,bradley and maidana, i think khan will fight reasonably good fighters under GBP (better then the 1's he'd have fought under ******) but dispite all of this you can rest assured they'll keep him locked away from the bad boys of 140:smoke

:shock: He stood in front of Maidana all night he has great lateral movement not footwork. Maidana was also stunned by Cayo's punches a couple of times and once he is hit he went into a shell. Maidana will get shown up soon he isn't as good as people are making him out to be.

[stuey]

Khan will run rings round him, he aint in Khans class imo...

[faisal]

Maidana is a pritty good pressure fighter, he could rumble with almost any1 at 140 and come up on top and that includes tim bradley (YES you read it)
this is absurd maidans dealt with 2 legit top 10 contenders who on earth did khan dispatch salita and kotelnik? i'll say this and this only if khans team were so confident in his abilties they would have given prescott a rematch by now i think khans a good fighter but your fooling yourselves if you think he'd be able to box and move all night against maidana

[Pug1list]

Khan dispatched Kotelnik, who dispatched Maidana. Ortiz was on his way to dispatch Maidana, but lost his head.

[ollyc]

Maidana is a pritty good pressure fighter, he could rumble with almost any1 at 140 and come up on top and that includes tim bradley (YES you read it)
this is absurd maidans dealt with 2 legit top 10 contenders who on earth did khan dispatch salita and kotelnik? i'll say this and this only if khans team were so confident in his abilties they would have given prescott a rematch by now i think khans a good fighter but your fooling yourselves if you think he'd be able to box and move all night against maidana

You can't discredit Khan's win over Kotelnik without discrediting Maidana. He beat the man who beat Maidana; there's no getting away from that.
Regardless once he dispatches of Malignaggi, he should just put the Maidana issue to bed and fight him.

[thewinfella]

Here we go again hey !!!!!

Marcos " the most over rated fighter in the world " Maidana

I cant wait to see Khan school this fella !!!!!!

[kosaros]

Khan dispatched Kotelnik, who dispatched Maidana. Ortiz was on his way to dispatch Maidana, but lost his head.

Styles make fights.

I actually do think Maidana would stop Khan if they fought.

[thewinfella]

Maidana is a pritty good pressure fighter, he could rumble with almost any1 at 140 and come up on top and that includes tim bradley (YES you read it)
this is absurd maidans dealt with 2 legit top 10 contenders who on earth did khan dispatch salita and kotelnik? i'll say this and this only if khans team were so confident in his abilties they would have given prescott a rematch by now i think khans a good fighter but your fooling yourselves if you think he'd be able to box and move all night against maidana


Business is the reason Khan Prescott 2 has never happened , Prescott is a nobody and after the Mitchell fight his re match went out the window with Khan , imagine the stick Khan would come in for if he ignored the talented fighters out there @140 now and fought Prescott :lol::lol::lol:

Its a ridiculous suggestion .

[faisal]

Business is the reason Khan Prescott 2 has never happened , Prescott is a nobody and after the Mitchell fight his re match went out the window with Khan , imagine the stick Khan would come in for if he ignored the talented fighters out there @140 now and fought Prescott :lol::lol::lol:

Its a ridiculous suggestion .
he actually could have fought presscot in a tune up if he wanted to given the fact that it would have been more then 5 months till he last fought in the ring

[faisal]

Khan dispatched Kotelnik, who dispatched Maidana. Ortiz was on his way to dispatch Maidana, but lost his head.
Styles make fights maidana has a bigger punch output then kotelnik and more importantly has more power

[ollyc]

Styles make fights maidana has a bigger punch output then kotelnik and more importantly has more power

That's not the point. You discredited Khan's win over Kotelnik by stating 'who on earth did he beat', implying that a victory over Kotelnik isn't impressive.
This is the same Kotelnik who beat Maidana. So I either you accept that it was a decent victory, or you admit that Maidana lost to a B-level, cumbersome robot.

[Cobbler]

Perhaps OP could specify which wins by Ortiz and Cayo propelled each of them to being 'legit top ten'? :huh

[NoHomeJerome]

lol at idiots saying kotelink-maidana result matters at all.

styles make fights, and mark maidana would shatter khans chin the first time he lands.

[Cobbler]

lol at idiots saying kotelink-maidana result matters at all.

styles make fights, and mark maidana would shatter khans chin the first time he lands.

The Kotelnik/Maidana result clearly matters when some troll is trying to simaltanously represent Maidana as a monster and discredit Khan's win over Kotelnik.

Maybe you didn't read the thread before posting, hence why you didn't work that out?

[faisal]

That's not the point. You discredited Khan's win over Kotelnik by stating 'who on earth did he beat', implying that a victory over Kotelnik isn't impressive.
This is the same Kotelnik who beat Maidana. So I either you accept that it was a decent victory, or you admit that Maidana lost to a B-level, cumbersome robot.
allot of ppl thought maidana beat kotelnik, khan did a good job against kotelnik but if i'm honest if he did look sloppy at times, i dont hate khan i think he can do well against good fighters if hes matched well but in this case i see him getting bombed out of there Maidana 1 of the biggest punchers in boxing if he wasnt all that roach wouldnt be so reluctant to put his boy in with maidana

[faisal]

Perhaps OP could specify which wins by Ortiz and Cayo propelled each of them to being 'legit top ten'? :huh
cayo and ortiz were much better contenders then salita you'd be a fool to think otherwise

[NoHomeJerome]

The Kotelnik/Maidana result clearly matters when some troll is trying to simaltanously represent Maidana as a monster and discredit Khan's win over Kotelnik.

Maybe you didn't read the thread before posting, hence why you didn't work that out?

i just read the first reply.. dumb logic.

[Cobbler]

cayo and ortiz were much better contenders then salita you'd be a fool to think otherwise

Average attempt to deflect the question. Though I didn't mention Salita, nor is he relevant. Are you going to try to answer? Tell me when Ortiz and Cayo respectively cracked the top ten. Who did they beat that propelled them there?

[Cobbler]

i just read the first reply.. dumb logic.

There you go then. Maybe read the whole thing next time and you won't look so silly when calling people 'idiots' before you've even understood the point they're making.

[faisal]

anthony peterson didnt beat a top 10 guy but it was pritty obvious that he was given his talents likewise both cayo and ortiz were pritty gifted fighters dispite never having fought the needed competition there talents spoke for itself we dont need to argue about this

[NoHomeJerome]

There you go then. Maybe read the whole thing next time and you won't look so silly when calling people 'idiots' before you've even understood the point they're making.


He hand't discredited Khans win over Kotelink... yet.

But the first reply from "Puglist" was a typical dumb response you get on here regarding Khan.


Khan will never beat maidana:nonoNo way jose:!: not after last night, cayo has much better footwork then khan and is some1 who i rate as a better fighter all round, theres no chance of khan making it out of there roach and khans crew will protect him from alexander,bradley and maidana, i think khan will fight reasonably good fighters under GBP (better then the 1's he'd have fought under ******) but dispite all of this you can rest assured they'll keep him locked away from the bad boys of 140:smoke

Yet Khan easily dealt with Kotelnik, who handled Maidana, not too sold on Maidana's chin either to be honest.

[mcguirpa]

Maidana is a pritty good pressure fighter, he could rumble with almost any1 at 140 and come up on top and that includes tim bradley (YES you read it

Oh. My. Word.

Maidana beats Bradley:rofl:rofl

A Khan/Maidana fight only ends one way. Wide, wide UD for Khan.

[Pug1list]

I'm not going to put too much weight on Maidana's win over Ortiz, since Khan stopped him a few years ago in the am's, with headgear.

[hoagy]

Khan will never beat maidana:nonoNo way jose:!: not after last night, cayo has much better footwork then khan and is some1 who i rate as a better fighter all round, theres no chance of khan making it out of there roach and khans crew will protect him from alexander,bradley and maidana, i think khan will fight reasonably good fighters under GBP (better then the 1's he'd have fought under ******) but dispite all of this you can rest assured they'll keep him locked away from the bad boys of 140:smoke

He cannot run forever and there is no escaping he DID beat the man who Maidana lost his one fight to,but I do not think GBP will risk his chin against a known puncher / K O fighter.

Khan's only hope would be to win on points as he did against Kotelnik,though Maidna's chin is a disaster waiting to happen & there for the invatation to put dust on the back of his trunks,as Ortiz showed,but such is the intimidating style of the Argentinian I believe he would have no problem rocking Khan's chin ,and for once and for all put the doubts to bed over it being made of glass....Maidana inside 6 IMHO

As many point out though....it's not going to happen in the near future,though at this level he will not be able to run from the likes of Bradly & Alexander after this one.

[Pug1list]

He hand't discredited Khans win over Kotelink... yet.

But the first reply from "Puglist" was a typical dumb response you get on here regarding Khan.

You inferred too much, you misunderstood my point.

[faisal]

Oh. My. Word.

Maidana beats Bradley:rofl:rofl

A Khan/Maidana fight only ends one way. Wide, wide UD for Khan.
thats a tought fight bradley was hurt by kendell holt maidanas a bigger puncher then holt so i wouldnt be suprised if he'd stop bradley late

[mcguirpa]

thats a tought fight bradley was hurt by kendell holt maidanas a bigger puncher then holt so i wouldnt be suprised if he'd stop bradley late

Down twice, yet still scored a wide UD. That tells you all you need to know. Not only that Bradley is getting better and better. He was absolutely superb against peterson. Shades of Mayweather in his defence.

[Flea Man]

Styles make fights.

I actually do think Maidana would stop Khan if they fought.

x2 :good

[NoHomeJerome]

Oh. My. Word.

Maidana beats Bradley:rofl:rofl

A Khan/Maidana fight only ends one way. Wide, wide UD for Khan.


With Maidanas power and Khan's glass chin the only results is a wide UD for Khan? :lol::lol::lol::lol::patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch

[Addie]

I think Maidana has an equally good chance of getting knocked out as he does slamming the breaks on Khan's hype train. If we do indeed consider Maidana an elite fighter in his weight division, then he has one of the worst defenses I've seen in recent years. Khan would have no trouble at all landing sharp combination's. I don't think the result is a foregone conclusions...at all.

[mcguirpa]

With Maidanas power and Khan's glass chin the only results is a wide UD? :lol::lol::lol::lol::patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch

The art of boxing. Hit without getting hit. Khan's getting rather good at it.

[faisal]

Down twice, yet still scored a wide UD. That tells you all you need to know. Not only that Bradley is getting better and better. He was absolutely superb against peterson. Shades of Mayweather in his defence.
kendell holt isnt even a good finisher and his mentality is weak he gives up and doesnt give a shit after 4 rounds kind of like judah and taylor

[mcguirpa]

kendell holt isnt even a good finisher and his mentality is weak he gives up and doesnt give a shit after 4 rounds kind of like judah and taylor

Righto.

Would be a good point, if it had any relevance to the argument whatsoever.

[NoHomeJerome]

The art of boxing. Hit without getting hit. Khan's getting rather good at it.

Based on one fight versus a robotic slow ass Kotelnik?

[mcguirpa]

Based on one fight versus a robotic slow ass Kotelnik?

Who outboxed the man who's going to catch and KO Khan:think

[LP_1985]

maidana - kotelnik and khan - kotelnik has no preference on the outcome of maidana - khan

[Flea Man]

I think Maidana has an equally good chance of getting knocked out as he does slamming the breaks on Khan's hype train. If we do indeed consider Maidana an elite fighter in his weight division, then he has one of the worst defenses I've seen in recent years. Khan would have no trouble at all landing sharp combination's. I don't think the result is a foregone conclusions...at all.

Agree 100% but I just see Maidana dragging Khan into something his chin can't stand up to.

[Flea Man]

Oh, and Bradley would beat Maidana no problem. I'd favour Alexander to heat Maidana too.

[rooq]

cayo seemed to be pretty open, and didn't have great footwork, but then again i only saw the 2 rounds leading up to the ko.

[kosaros]

cayo seemed to be pretty open, and didn't have great footwork, but then again i only saw the 2 rounds leading up to the ko.

Cayo was open, but he did show some decent reflexes at times, but he just froze when he got pinned on the ropes. Still, even with the knockdown, I think I still had Cayo leading by 1 point going into the 6th.

[LHL]

I had Cayo up as well Kos HBO give Maidana 3 of the first 4 rounds which i thought was way to generous.

[Darni187]

Maidana is very easy to read, Khan would just have to stick to a simple game plan to win vs Maidana who's defence is poor and his chin not the best also. Khan could even stop him.


BTW saw Haye last night in central London, asked him what round he was going to KO Ruiz in he said He is tough so he dont know, top man.

[kosaros]

I had Cayo up as well Kos HBO give Maidana 3 of the first 4 rounds which i thought was way to generous.

Yep, the scoring by Lederman for that fight was a bit off I must say.

[Rangersfan1982]

IMO Maidana would land on khan at some point and put him to sleep.

[cool-cat]

Kotelnik and khan are comltely diffenrent fighters and kotelnik has a far better chin than khan.

[D-MAC]

I like this fight, I really do.

A lot more of an exciting prospect than Khan-Paulie.

If it goes the full 12 there is little doubt that Khan would win, but can he last the full 12. Dunno:huh

Overall I would favour Khan, a lot more strings in his bow than Maidana and ever improving, but can't discount the danger factor that Maidana offers with his big punch. Intriguing match-up.

[GazOC]

Paulie-Khan is a more interesting fight IMHO.

[D-MAC]

Paulie-Khan is a more interesting fight IMHO.

You're such a purist Gaz.:verysad

I bet when you want to watch an old fight you reach over the Gatti-Ward DVD and grasp the one labelled Hopkins-Allen III.

[GazOC]

You're such a purist Gaz.:verysad

I bet when you want to watch an old fight you reach over the Gatti-Ward DVD and grasp the one labelled Hopkins-Allen III.

Thats Greg FitzPatterson not me.

I like good tear up but I think Paulie is the more interesting fight for Khan.:p;)

[ishy]

You're such a purist Gaz.:verysad

I bet when you want to watch an old fight you reach over the Gatti-Ward DVD and grasp the one labelled Hopkins-Allen III.

That is what Greg does.

Maidana should be built up to be a TV fighter, put him in with guys that will make great fights.

How about Maidana-Ricardo Torres :hey
FOTY candidate for sure.

[GazOC]

That is what Greg does.

See my last post.:good
:yep

[TFFP]

Some of the reasoning in this thread is sloppier than Maidana.

[D-MAC]

That is what Greg does.

Maidana should be built up to be a TV fighter, put him in with guys that will make great fights.

How about Maidana-Ricardo Torres :hey
FOTY candidate for sure.

Lovely jubbly.

Or failing that, Maidana-Urango.

[D-MAC]

Thats Greg FitzPatterson not me.

I like good tear up but I think Paulie is the more interesting fight for Khan.:p;)

I only said it was labelled Hopkins-Allen III.:smooch

I'm pretty sure you'd left the "Corrales-Castillo I" disk inside the actual DVD sleeve.

[Flea Man]

As I'm steaming I'll say what I think; Khan is fucking shite. Amazing handspeed, improving tactical nuance, but that chin will let him down big time.

Maidana K.O 2 Khan; how many top fighters have had genuinely shocking chins?

[Darni187]

Lovely jubbly.

Or failing that, Maidana-Urango.

Cybrog vs Terminator :yep

[Guy]

Khan is shite lolol you are steaming.

[ishy]

Khan does not have a shit chin. He was struggling to make 135.

;)

Honestly, he will get banjoed again but I don't think it'll be Maidana that does it.

[Darni187]

Why you lot picking on my fighter? :|

[Flea Man]

Khan is shite lolol you are steaming.

He is.

Ishy; I can't wait til that day; I just cannot root for fighters with shocking chins.

[Flea Man]

Why you lot picking on my fighter? :|

When are you going to understand that a fighter with a glass jaw is not worth rooting for? You might as well nuthug Jason Litzau.

[GazOC]

As I'm steaming I'll say what I think; Khan is fucking shite. Amazing handspeed, improving tactical nuance, but that chin will let him down big time.

Maidana K.O 2 Khan; how many top fighters have had genuinely shocking chins?

Sorry Flea, Maidana isn't going to get to Khans chin IMHO.

[Pug1list]

Why not?

[LP_1985]

Khan does not have a shit chin. He was struggling to make 135.

;)

Honestly, he will get banjoed again but I don't think it'll be Maidana that does it.

remember he had to take his boxers off for the prescott weigh in

[Darni187]

When are you going to understand that a fighter with a glass jaw is not worth rooting for? You might as well nuthug Jason Litzau.

I am so upset i am not answering ........... :bart

[Flea Man]

Khan will look great then POW Maidana hits him with a light jab and Khans head comes off.

Hope so; Maidana gets a lot of press (more deserved than Valero IMO) but Khans supporters do my head in. Any criticism aimed at their boy and you are automatically a racist. For that breason alone I hope the cunt gets sparked again.

[kosaros]

He is.

Ishy; I can't wait til that day; I just cannot root for fighters with shocking chins.

Fucking chinist.

[Flea Man]

I am so upset i am not answering ........... :bart

Sure.

Dude, you are used to it. You are a massive supporter of a guy without the intangibles to TRULY succeed, and fair -play to ya, it'd be like me being a Tye Fields nuthugger.

Takes a lot of guts, so fair play

[Beeston Brawler]

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[Flea Man]

Fucking chinist.

I am a chinist.

I don't consider someone a 'proper' fighter unless they can take a punch (ile can compete in an even matchup)

Call me 'chinist' if you will, I just prefer my fighters to be fighters rather than guys that have to bluff their way through fights.

Benitez, Locche, Sweet Peal; defensive but tough,

Khan; HAS to be defensive or he will get shown up. Give it up lad.

[Darni187]

Khan will look great then POW Maidana hits him with a light jab and Khans head comes off.

Hope so; Maidana gets a lot of press (more deserved than Valero IMO) but Khans supporters do my head in. Any criticism aimed at their boy and you are automatically a racist. For that breason alone I hope the cunt gets sparked again.


:lol:

[Guy]

He is.

Ishy; I can't wait til that day; I just cannot root for fighters with shocking chins.



:lol:Doesn't that add more suspense? The fact they could get clipped or do them first.

[Flea Man]

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Ill probs regret it in the mornin

[Flea Man]

:lol:Doesn't that add more suspense? The fact they could get clipped or do them first.

Suspense? Yeah.

Like Haye; I like Haye.

Just don't like Khan. If a fighter has the worst chin I've ever seen (Khan does) I cannot take them seriously, and cannot root for them

[Flea Man]

[/b]


:lol:

DELETE totally unacceptable post

[Pug1list]

Khan has a great chin, was weight drained, now Maidana, he has a poor chin.

[Darni187]

Suspense? Yeah.

Like Haye; I like Haye.

Just don't like Khan. If a fighter has the worst chin I've ever seen (Khan does) I cannot take them seriously, and cannot root for them

Fair play at least we know you dont hate Khan for any other reason, you dont like him cuz he is chinny, cool.

[ishy]

What's up with you tonight Flea? Seem a bit peeved :lol:

[Guy]

Suspense? Yeah.

Like Haye; I like Haye.

Just don't like Khan. If a fighter has the worst chin I've ever seen (Khan does) I cannot take them seriously, and cannot root for them

Exactly like the Haye man but Khan's got skills too, rapier punches. Like homing missiles on your face.

[Flea Man]

[/b]


:lol:

Fair play at least we know you dont hate Khan for any other reason, you dont like him cuz he is chinny, cool.

Fair, enough I take everything back mate:good

[Flea Man]

What's up with you tonight Flea? Seem a bit peeved :lol:

fn steaming Ish, done a load of ching, but thats nowt to do with Calazghes influence, I ain't no overrated dick protecting my 0

[Guy]

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:lol::lol: BB you got the watercolours out?

[Darni187]

Fair, enough I take everything back mate:good

I never take anything to heart, some people like fighters other dont, thats what we are here to discuss. :good

[Beeston Brawler]

Something I made earlier ;)

[GazOC]

I never take anything to heart, some people like fighters other dont, thats what we are here to discuss. :good

You're the most rational nuthugger on here Darni!!:good

[Flea Man]

I never take anything to heart, some people like fighters other dont, thats what we are here to discuss. :good

thing is, you get a lot of stick, yet you're a nice guy.

Not fair IMO.

I act like a right dick sometimes (because I am, incase you hadn't noticed:lol:) but tonight i;m just pissed out of me headbjkasdjka

[kosaros]

I am a chinist.

I don't consider someone a 'proper' fighter unless they can take a punch (ile can compete in an even matchup)

Call me 'chinist' if you will, I just prefer my fighters to be fighters rather than guys that have to bluff their way through fights.

Benitez, Locche, Sweet Peal; defensive but tough,

Khan; HAS to be defensive or he will get shown up. Give it up lad.

I was only joking you cunt.


























:lol::good

[Flea Man]

I said 'give it up lad' about Kghan altrhough i ralise now it wculdve seem i was slaggin you kos :good

i am being a dick 2nite let me off, i think myou boys are legds im just smahed and typing like hagman1890

[Darni187]

You're the most rational nuthugger on here Darni!!:good

:good my war is with the Yanks, they think their too good, this place is like home

thing is, you get a lot of stick, yet you're a nice guy.

Not fair IMO.

I act like a right dick sometimes (because I am, incase you hadn't noticed:lol:) but tonight i;m just pissed out of me headbjkasdjka

I joined ESB after Khan got KTFO, not many Khan fans around then, he was the joke of most posters, iam too used to it. ;)

[Maza1987]

Yet Khan easily dealt with Kotelnik, who handled Maidana, not too sold on Maidana's chin either to be honest.

Lol. Instantly pwned.
/thread. OP fails.

[Flea Man]

i joined after he got sparked as well, just go loat :lol:

i support him when he fights, but dont invest any time in him. whats the pint, paulie will probs sparkh im :rofl :rofl

[ishy]

i joined after he got sparked as well, just go loat :lol:

i support him when he fights, but dont invest any time in him. whats the pint, paulie will probs sparkh im :rofk Rokgf

:lol::lol:

[Flea Man]

aye i'll change that :lol:

[D-MAC]

10.58pm: Suspense? Yeah.

Like Haye; I like Haye.

Just don't like Khan. If a fighter has the worst chin I've ever seen (Khan does) I cannot take them seriously, and cannot root for them

11.06pm: thing is, you get a lot of stick, yet you're a nice guy.

Not fair IMO.

I act like a right dick sometimes (because I am, incase you hadn't noticed:lol:) but tonight i;m just pissed out of me headbjkasdjka

11.09pm: I said 'give it up lad' about Kghan altrhough i ralise now it wculdve seem i was slaggin you kos :good

i am being a dick 2nite let me off, i think myou boys are legds im just smahed and typing like hagman1890

Fucking hell Fleaman, you get really drunk, really fast.

[Flea Man]

Fucking hell Fleaman, you get really drunk, really fast.

i'm right on it D, check da keyboard somimes and sometimes just hammer it :good

[Darni187]

i'm right on it D, check da keyboard somimes and sometimes just hammer it :good


:lol:

[Flea Man]

i always type shit oht awhen i aint pissed

quite concientious (spellin?) when I'm stoned, just pissed i go on a mad one

[jonnytightlips]

Khan beats Maidana handy enough for me. Khan is far more skilled than him. Kotelnik beat Maidana and in all fairness Ortiz should of beat him but he got drawn into a war with him. Also Maidana dosnt seem to take a good too well himself does he.

[D-MAC]

i'm right on it D, check da keyboard somimes and sometimes just hammer it :good

Oh yeah!:lol:

[ImElvis666]

Yet Khan easily dealt with Kotelnik, who handled Maidana, not too sold on Maidana's chin either to be honest.

Prescott easily handled Khan who easily dealt with Kotelnik, see where I am going with this. Your logic is flawed. Styles make fights. Kotelnik is a good boxer with a good chin, he beat a limited fighter with lots of power in Maidana.

Khan's kryptonite is big hitters and that is what Maidana is. Like it or not, Maidana will always have a chance of beating Khan. The question is can Khan manage to not get caught with a haymaker because if he does he is going down a la Prescott.

[TFFP]

Prescott easily handled Khan who easily dealt with Kotelnik, see where I am going with this. Your logic is flawed. Styles make fights. Kotelnik is a good boxer with a good chin, he beat a limited fighter with lots of power in Maidana.

Khan's kryptonite is big hitters and that is what Maidana is. Like it or not, Maidana will always have a chance of beating Khan. The question is can Khan manage to not get caught with a haymaker because if he does he is going down a la Prescott.
The exact same could be said of Maidana. He was down against Ortiz. He didn't get stopped but if that happened against Khan he could be flurried to death before he gets a chance to recover.

The fight is basically a shoot out, I'd be shocked if it lasted long. They both have the power to hurt each other but I favour Khan because he's a lot faster and thinks about defence more whereas Maidana has an arrogance about him that he can just walk everybody down.

[ImElvis666]

The exact same could be said of Maidana. He was down against Ortiz. He didn't get stopped but if that happened against Khan he could be flurried to death before he gets a chance to recover.

The fight is basically a shoot out, I'd be shocked if it lasted long. They both have the power to hurt each other but I favour Khan because he's a lot faster and thinks about defence more whereas Maidana has an arrogance about him that he can just walk everybody down.

I'm not so sure it would be over so quickly. I'm pretty sure Khan will throw 1-2 punch combos and get out of there and dance a lot around the ring. If Khan goes for the kill it could spell danger just like last night. I think Khan will box clever, it's just a question of sustaining it.

I think it's a 50/50 fight. Maidana can only win by KO, Khan could win by decision or KO.

[D-MAC]

The exact same could be said of Maidana. He was down against Ortiz. He didn't get stopped but if that happened against Khan he could be flurried to death before he gets a chance to recover.

The fight is basically a shoot out, I'd be shocked if it lasted long. They both have the power to hurt each other but I favour Khan because he's a lot faster and thinks about defence more whereas Maidana has an arrogance about him that he can just walk everybody down.

You think Khan will get himself involved in a shoot-out with Maidana?

Last time he done that with a big hitter he got sparked against Prescott. You can't tell me Maidana is less skilled than Prescott. The Colombian may have reach on Maidana but that doesn't come into play if Khan danders into the inside with Maidana.

I would expect Khan to back-foot this fight, and go for a UD or a mid to late rounds stoppage, depending on how successful he is on the outskirts and if he has good power at LWW.

[GazOC]

Thats exactly how I see it D-Mac. Theres no way Khan will go in all guns blazing, he'll be on the back foot, using his reach with his ear muffs on.

[TFFP]

You think Khan will get himself involved in a shoot-out with Maidana?

Last time he done that with a big hitter he got sparked against Prescott. You can't tell me Maidana is less skilled than Prescott. The Colombian may have reach on Maidana but that doesn't come into play if Khan danders into the inside with Maidana.

I would expect Khan to back-foot this fight, and go for a UD or a mid to late rounds stoppage, depending on how successful he is on the outskirts and if he has good power at LWW.
Nah not in the sense Khan will go to war, I mean a shoot out in terms of who lands power punches early will win.

What I'm trying to say is I don't think it will last long because when Maidana tastes a right hand counter he'll be hurt by it IMO, the Ortiz fight suggests that. Ortiz probably has more natural power but Khan's handspeed will make a difference too. It's okay marauding forward against the Kotelnik's and Cayo's who seem to have little power but handspeed and power is a combination that will be bad for him because once he's stunned he has no defence. He's the perfect candidate to be caught cold.

And if Maidana lands good shots he'll probably KTFO Khan too.

[Dan684]

Will it be made though ????

[Darni187]

Nah not in the sense Khan will go to war, I mean a shoot out in terms of who lands power punches early will win.

What I'm trying to say is I don't think it will last long because when Maidana tastes a right hand counter he'll be hurt by it IMO, the Ortiz fight suggests that. Ortiz probably has more natural power but Khan's handspeed will make a difference too. It's okay marauding forward against the Kotelnik's and Cayo's who seem to have little power but handspeed and power is a combination that will be bad for him because once he's stunned he has no defence. He's the perfect candidate to be caught cold.

And if Maidana lands good shots he'll probably KTFO Khan too.

Maidana is open to the same combo Salita got caught with the straight left right hand, and if Khan caught Maidana with the same shots he got Salita with then Maidana is going down. But i do think if anyone at 140 lets Maidana land clean it could be lights out, but Maidana is much more readable with them looping hooks. Khan would land and get out before Maidana can get his power shots off.

[Flea Man]

I don't think Maidana is that readable, his lack of technical nuances make him quite an awkward proposition IMO

[Darni187]

I don't think Maidana is that readable, his lack of technical nuances make him quite an awkward proposition IMO

Shit you still up?, or just got up, hang over?

[Flea Man]

Shit you still up?, or just got up, hang over?

The latter:lol:Started work at 6, feel like Dirrell must've done post round 11.

[Darni187]

The latter:lol:Started work at 6, feel like Dirrell must've done post round 11.

:lol: Me too started work at 6, mondays are a cunt. :mad:

[Flea Man]

:lol: Me too started work at 6, mondays are a cunt. :mad:

Done permanent earlies for 18 months, had to be up at 5 to get the bus.

Got picked up this morning though; still, hanging like Michael Hutchence :lol:

[Darni187]

Done permanent earlies for 18 months, had to be up at 5 to get the bus.

Got picked up this morning though; still, hanging like Michael Hutchence :lol:

:lol:

[Flea Man]

Glad it ain't too busy this morning, worst thing to hear when your heads about to explode is lorry engines and retarded lorry drivers.

Already heard this morning (in response to a comment about Calzaghe to a Welsh driver)

'I know he's messed up, but he's the greatest boxer of all time; no one can take that away from him'

:rofl

[TFFP]

Maidana is open to the same combo Salita got caught with the straight left right hand, and if Khan caught Maidana with the same shots he got Salita with then Maidana is going down. But i do think if anyone at 140 lets Maidana land clean it could be lights out, but Maidana is much more readable with them looping hooks. Khan would land and get out before Maidana can get his power shots off.
Khan would do that early but if they had any sense by round 4 or 5 when he's timing Maidana he should look to end it. Infact he should try to end it as soon as possible but not in a reckless manner, still boxing sensibly but put some real meat in the shots.

If the Kotelnik fight proved anything about Maidana it is that he can go 12 rounds at a good pace and he actually gets quite dangerous late on. He hurt Kotelnik late on (not sure which round) which is not easy to do. Khan's movement does slow down, Kotelnik got closer later in the fight, that is inevitable for any fighter that they'll tire and slow down and you don't want Maidana to still be there when you do.

[Jeff Young]

listening to the interview Khan gave to boxing mundial....makes me think roach has turned him into a manufactored fighter....Exactly, what roach said about hatton under floyd, sr....

I was leaning towards Khan outboxing Maidana, but know i'm convinced Khan gets stopped...

[TFFP]

listening to the interview Khan gave to boxing mundial....makes me think roach has turned him into a manufactored fighter....Exactly, what roach said about hatton under floyd, sr....

I was leaning towards Khan outboxing Maidana, but know i'm convinced Khan gets stopped...
What are you talking about? :huh

What exactly has he done wrong? He's 22 years old and he just won a world title, made a mandatory defence and is now fighting an established fighter in America that just came off a good win.

[Darni187]

Khan would do that early but if they had any sense by round 4 or 5 when he's timing Maidana he should look to end it. Infact he should try to end it as soon as possible but not in a reckless manner, still boxing sensibly but put some real meat in the shots.

If the Kotelnik fight proved anything about Maidana it is that he can go 12 rounds at a good pace and he actually gets quite dangerous late on. He hurt Kotelnik late on (not sure which round) which is not easy to do. Khan's movement does slow down, Kotelnik got closer later in the fight, that is inevitable for any fighter that they'll tire and slow down and you don't want Maidana to still be there when you do.

I agree Maidana does retain his power for most of the 12 rounds, Khan would be wise to try and push from the go and finish it ASAP with fast smart boxing and get off his own fast power shots.

He dont want to risk a late upset with him feeling the pace in the later rounds and Maidana closing the range.

[Jeff Young]

What are you talking about? :huh

What exactly has he done wrong? He's 22 years old and he just won a world title, made a mandatory defence and is now fighting an established fighter in America that just came off a good win.

In that interview he is talking about fighting calmer? and smarter under roach....Khan is a natural offensive seek-out and destroy fighter....He has shown defensive improvements under roach...

What's going to happen is once Khan gets hit by a bomb from maidana, he will revert back to his old ways, and will go night-night....Even if he doesnt get knocked out...I think any sign of trouble, he will run for dear life or panic like wlad does at times...

Roach is manufactoring Khan just to protect the chin, and even that won't save him once he is in trouble with someone...He will go back to the ole' amir...come forward sit-on punches with the chin on a dish...or he will go into a panic attack....Best of luck to him....but seeing the Maidana's....Bradley's....Urango's....and Alexander's of the world....makes now think he is better off with ****** for at least another year maybe even 2....They are rushing him imo...the more I think about it....

[Darni187]

In that interview he is talking about fighting calmer? and smarter under roach....Khan is a natural offensive seek-out and destroy fighter....He has shown defensive improvements under roach...

What's going to happen is once Khan gets hit by a bomb from maidana, he will revert back to his old ways, and will go night-night....Even if he doesnt get knocked out...I think any sign of trouble, he will run for dear life or panic like wlad does at times...

Roach is manufactoring Khan just to protect the chin, and even that won't save him once he is in trouble with someone...He will go back to the ole' amir...come forward sit-on punches with the chin on a dish...or he will go into a panic attack....Best of luck to him....but seeing the Maidana's....Bradley's....Urango's....and Alexander's of the world....makes now think he is better off with ****** for at least another year maybe even 2....They are rushing him imo...the more I think about it....

This is the test moving from ****** and trying to win over or become the top 140 fighter at 23 in the U.S as his 1st main goal will be the hardest.

Khan has the skill set and the right team behind him, the stage is set bar Maidana and Urango who all top 140 could get KO not just Khan, he has a good chance of beating.

I feel the main question is can Khan take a decent shot from a decent fighter, not power hitters like Maidana, but the likes of Bradley and Alexander?

There are questions which still hover around Khan and until we dont find answers to we just dont know how far he can go. My bet is Roach's team have rebalanced is body weight and the moving up in weight might help his poor chin which was at 135.

Khan at 140 in his last fight just looked fit and strong, and with improved mind set and boxing gameplans and defence that could make the difference.

[Son of Gaul]

Khan will never beat maidana:nonoNo way jose:!: not after last night, cayo has much better footwork then khan and is some1 who i rate as a better fighter all round, theres no chance of khan making it out of there roach and khans crew will protect him from alexander,bradley and maidana, i think khan will fight reasonably good fighters under GBP (better then the 1's he'd have fought under ******) but dispite all of this you can rest assured they'll keep him locked away from the bad boys of 140:smoke

Interesting matchup, that's for sure.:good

[KingCobra]

This is a fight I'd love to see. I'd also be interested in seeing Maidana fight Mitchell or Katsidis if they moved up. Khan definitely needs to take this fight tho, I'd be disappointed if he vacated to avoid it.

[KingCobra]

even if khsn beat maidana in 1 round ko like salita, All the critics/racists will say maidana was overrated lets see him in a real fight. we have to accept that a minority hate Khan because he is ****stani.

I wish he would become an American citizen

GTFO. Most people that have a grudge against Khan have it due to his hype without having faced a top name and also cos he comes out with some shite. If he beats Paulie his stock will rise. I have nothing against ****stanis, I work with a ****stani Muslim and you couldn't meet a nicer guy. You need to stop generalising pal.

[D-MAC]

GTFO. Most people that have a grudge against Khan have it due to his hype without having faced a top name and also cos he comes out with some shite. If he beats Paulie his stock will rise. I have nothing against ****stanis, I work with a ****stani Muslim and you couldn't meet a nicer guy. You need to stop generalising pal.

Ignore him mate, he's a troll.

[KingCobra]

Ignore him mate, he's a troll.

Ah. Thanks for the heads up. Come to think of it he's the same poster being a dick on the Froch vs AA thread. Fucking Child.

[Leo Ross]

even if khsn beat maidana in 1 round ko like salita, All the critics/racists will say maidana was overrated lets see him in a real fight. we have to accept that a minority hate Khan because he is ****stani.

I wish he would become an American citizen
Mate do yourself a favour and stop with the racist shite......this is a boxing forum, that nonsense isnt welcolme....all the lads come on for decent crack and to listen to other peoples opinions, not that narrow minded clap trap.

[faisal]

all maidana has to do is land and he'll win to the head or to the body khan goes down to the first meaningful punch thats my prediction I hope i'm wrong because i'd like to see khan back up all the claims that were made of him since he turned pro, i'm sure ppl including myself would take him more seriously if he fights and beats maidana in stunning fashion then guys like carl froch would come out and give him the much needed props he rightfully deserves because maidana is no joke

[Pug1list]

We'll see when it happens, but I have a funny feeling you will call Maidana a bum if Khan does beat him.

[faisal]

We'll see when it happens, but I have a funny feeling you will call Maidana a bum if Khan does beat him.
No i wont, i think maidana despite being 1 dimensional is 1 of the best in the devision hes a wrecking machine, (given khans genetic shortcomings in the punch resistence department) if he gets past maidana he earns my respect!!!

[abzmanc]

No i wont, i think maidana despite being 1 dimensional is 1 of the best in the devision hes a wrecking machine, (given khans genetic shortcomings in the punch resistence department) if he gets past maidana he earns my respect!!!

Where do you rate Kotelnik, who beat Maidana?? :think And remember he DID beat him, Maidana LOST.

[Flea Man]

Where do you rate Kotelnik, who beat Maidana?? :think And remember he DID beat him, Maidana LOST.

Styles make fights.

I'd still say Kotelnik is between 5-10 on the 140lber list. Solid, tough, although unspectacular.

Maidana would be a harder matchup for Khan than Kotelnik was.

[TheUzi]

Styles make fights.

I'd still say Kotelnik is between 5-10 on the 140lber list. Solid, tough, although unspectacular.

Maidana would be a harder matchup for Khan than Kotelnik was.


Absolutely no doubt about it.

[slip&counter]

If only Maidana just bobbed and weaved a little more as "defense" is not a sin in this beautiful sport. the hooks will come so much easier if he can D it up a little more...

Maidana will have problems with the lateral movement of Khan as long as Khan can put the headphones on at the right times and avoid getting cought with a equilibrium breaking head shot. For me Maidana is just to much of a plotter, a strong one at that but a plotter all the same. boxers, like Khan/Alexander, see him coming from a mile away and can time the crap out of him.

[icemax]

Styles make fights.

I'd still say Kotelnik is between 5-10 on the 140lber list. Solid, tough, although unspectacular.

Maidana would be a harder matchup for Khan than Kotelnik was.

I'm sorry mate, but I just can't agree. Kotelnik is very correct defensively, but was just to slow in the feet to pin down Khan and land...Maidana is just as slow footed as Kotelnik, if not more so, and will find it equally difficult to pin Khan down. However, Maidana is nowhere near as defensively astute as the Ukranian and will be way more open to the counter. I honestly think that Khan will box his head off and probably stop him...if Khans chin is as bad as people say it is then Maidanas power is going to be meaningless really.

[faisal]

my thread prove a sucess and its the first of many great threads here on the brit forum

[Guy]

I can't wait