View Full Version : Can you build a chin?
KoperniK2004
10-09-2007, 03:15 AM
Nah I don't mean out of papier maché :patsch
Take Amir Khan for example - who has shown speed and great technique but has been wobbled often when he gets tagged well by an opponent. Does his seemingly long neck have anything to do with it? What can a boxer do (defensive technique aside) to reduce the probability of that happening? Does working on shoulder and neck muscles help or is it a case of if you've got a weak chin then it stays with you throughout your career?
Zhaakal
10-09-2007, 03:18 AM
Working on your neck only helps to absorb punches that don't land on the chin.
theunderdog
10-09-2007, 03:20 AM
i don't think so. it's either you have it or you don't
i don't think so. it's either you have it or you don't
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Is that the Great Mutah in your avi where you find those pics at main???
I think you can build a chin you have to exercise it chew a lot of gum and do head weights and you should be good.
Boom_Boom
10-09-2007, 03:54 AM
Cat improve the chin, but im sure you can build quick recovery by working on the legs alot
4Rounder
10-09-2007, 04:06 AM
Working the neck is supposed to help absorb blows to those areas.
But I heard about a local trainer that told his boxer to chew a lot of gum to strengthen his jaw a little.
I really don't know if that actually works, maybe someone else here would know.
Blacc Jesus
10-09-2007, 04:48 AM
Nope.
Cachibatches
10-09-2007, 04:56 AM
Yes. It is a myth that a bad chin is totally uncorrectable.
Taking punches in the gym helps to build a chin- Ali had a succsessful second carreer after the speed went by sparring with no headgear and laregely allowing his partners to crack him (it was ultimately the real cause of his brain danage, too).
Putting on wieght helps to take punch.
Dempsey used to chew hardened tree sap to strengthen jaw muscles. Someone else mentioned gum
Strenghtneing the neck has been mentioned.
When Tommy Hearns realized he had a chin problem, he started training the legs. Strengthing the legs hleps to take a punch. That is why Leonard could not put him down in the second fight.
Definitely can't, you're either born with one or not but chins DON'T remain the same either. Take Samuel Peter for instance, he was able to take punches from the biggest puncher in boxing today for 12 full rounds but now can't handle a big shot, why?, because he took WAY more than he was supposed to in 1 fight. Some fighters can go through that and keep taking and taking, take Tyson for instance. Everyone is born in a way, some can't take a shot at all.
Bigcat
10-09-2007, 06:55 AM
You cannott build a chin........... PERIOD !
But you can learn how to fight extremely well and become more aware of how it disbles you, Box in a way that you can see more , remember the punches that you dont see are the ones that knock you out...If you get to be a more alert boxer and know when you are more susceptible to being hit, you will ultimately become a finer and more capably durable boxer, you can condition yourself to being able to cope with punches that you see coming, anticipating it and craving, rolling the power and managing the power.. Watch Klitchko nowadays, he hardly gets phased by hard shots that even land flush because he isn't fearful any more or gunshy..
See Me Flow
10-09-2007, 07:00 AM
Nope.
That vid...awsome! Still nobody has a better left hook than Frazier.
Rollo
10-09-2007, 07:32 AM
No.
But I think that Foreman´s chin was better in the second half of his career - it´s a mental thing.
Dekkers
10-09-2007, 07:46 AM
Basically.... YES, I think you can improve a chin a fair amount, things like;
Building stamina, stronger legs, improving defence & head movement (taking fewer flush shots rolling with punches more), building strength through the upper traps/neck, improving the ability to tie up an opponent, psychology/sports psychology (or otherwise making a fighter mentally stronger), even training exercises where a fighter becomes accustomed to moving while disoriented (Tszyu used to do those), can give the illusion of significantly improving punch resistance, whilst perhaps only improving it very slightly in the pure sense of copping a blow straight on the jaw.
Shake
10-09-2007, 07:59 AM
Foreman weighed about fifty pounds more. A stable base helps.
gutto
10-09-2007, 09:28 AM
I Think Most Of These Things Would Help But Imo If Your Tall With A Long Neck Theres A More Chance Of You Not Taking Punches As Well As A Squat Fighter With A Short Wider Neck
China_hand_Joe
10-09-2007, 09:32 AM
Yes. You can almost certainly do things to damage a chin and do things to get the best of of your chin.
LogDog69
10-09-2007, 09:42 AM
People keep saying that if you have a long neck that you can't take a punch and I use to think the same thing because people like Tyson, Tua, McCall, and Mercer have great chins and they all have short stocky necks, but here's one man that keeps that pattern from being consistent....Pavlik!! :good
He has a long neck and can take a shot and it just doesn't make sense.
People keep saying that if you have a long neck that you can't take a punch and I use to think the same thing because people like Tyson, Tua, McCall, and Mercer have great chins and they all have short stocky necks, but here's one man that keeps that pattern from being consistent....Pavlik!! :good
He has a long neck and can take a shot and it just doesn't make sense.
I thought he got floored by JT.
LogDog69
10-09-2007, 10:08 AM
I thought he got floored by JT.
He did get floored by JT but he got up and KO'd him. Tyson got floored by Douglas, Holyfield, and Lewis and I believe everyone considers Tyson as having a pretty solid chin.
koko of phil
10-09-2007, 10:28 AM
No. If you don't have it, then you are glassy. But I believe great condition in a fight makes you less vulnerable.
splatter69
10-09-2007, 10:38 AM
People keep saying that if you have a long neck that you can't take a punch and I use to think the same thing because people like Tyson, Tua, McCall, and Mercer have great chins and they all have short stocky necks, but here's one man that keeps that pattern from being consistent....Pavlik!! :good
He has a long neck and can take a shot and it just doesn't make sense.
Shit Doesnt Mc Call have a skinny neck? Or does his big head/lower jaw make it appear so...
Dorfmeister
10-09-2007, 11:41 AM
I would say no cos it's almost as to say you can build natural talent. When you are hit, the impact travels through the lower jaw to the spinal cord and activates neurosensors that sustain and command all your body activity... But you can train so that you can get used to pain and develop your "mental toughness", minimizing its effects and enabling you to fight through it, remember that the inability to tolerate punishment is often responsible for losing - this doesn't mean you should be "beaten up" in the gym but training/sparring with heavier men may prepare you and sharp you up or so says Wayne McCullough in "The Ring" Nov 2007 issue - The Fight Doctor: Can you feel my Pain? article... Never heard Friedrich Nietzsche's quote " What doesn't kill us makes us stonger"? Evander Holyfield says that enduring the pain plays a great part in making a great fighter and I believe in him.
LogDog69
10-09-2007, 11:50 AM
Shit Doesnt Mc Call have a skinny neck? Or does his big head/lower jaw make it appear so...
I think McCall's neck is pretty normal in size. It's not long like Hearns but it's certainly longer that Tyson's or Tua's
Caper
10-09-2007, 12:01 PM
I think McCall's neck is pretty normal in size. It's not long like Hearns but it's certainly longer that Tyson's or Tua's
I've got a pretty long neck and take a good shot but that's probably due to the fact that I have big legs and shoulders, I'm sure having a shorter neck would help though.
Cruiser1
10-09-2007, 12:04 PM
Working the neck is supposed to help absorb blows to those areas.
But I heard about a local trainer that told his boxer to chew a lot of gum to strengthen his jaw a little.
I really don't know if that actually works, maybe someone else here would know.
It couldn't hurt.
Loufatski
10-09-2007, 12:12 PM
Working on your neck only helps to absorb punches that don't land on the chin.
Not true, a strong neck is the foundation of the chin. People use the term "chin" because that's the best part of the head to hit which rapidly snaps the neck which cuts off feeling to the body. Strong thick necks make good chins, and of course it also depends on how much impact one can take to the brain before it blacks out. Some brains are "stronger" than others.
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