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Amsterdam
10-09-2007, 09:12 AM
Anyone else have an interest in this one? I am picking Bute to win by KO and think it will be an exciting bout, at least the belt will be back in the hands of a top tier fighter and maybe we could get a final unification match after the MK/JC showdown.

Is anyone picking Berrio?:think

drvooh
10-09-2007, 09:22 AM
Anyone else have an interest in this one? I am picking Bute to win by KO and think it will be an exciting bout, at least the belt will be back in the hands of a top tier fighter and maybe we could get a final unification match after the MK/JC showdown.

Is anyone picking Berrio?:think You may not have many takers here.:-(

LogDog69
10-09-2007, 09:24 AM
I've never seen either of them fight. From what I've heard, Berrio is a stand-up slugger and Bute has pretty good power himself but he's more well-rounded than Berrio. Is that correct or have I been mislead?

Amsterdam
10-09-2007, 11:04 AM
I've never seen either of them fight. From what I've heard, Berrio is a stand-up slugger and Bute has pretty good power himself but he's more well-rounded than Berrio. Is that correct or have I been mislead?

Berrio is a tall pressure/slugger type with 1 punch KO power, and I mean REAL 1 punch KO power.

Bute is more of a fluid, southpaw Euro boxer with good movement and handspeed, moderate power.

You've been lead correctly.

Brickhaus
10-09-2007, 11:28 AM
I think Bute will win, but not because I'm all that high on Bute. I'm probably also higher on Berrio than most, but he leaves himself too open defensively, and his chin is pretty shaky, and his style is so aggressive that I can see Bute catching him with a punch he never sees and putting him to sleep. Berrio's a stronger puncher and a quicker fighter than Bute, and his boxing skills are underrated, but he's too much of a defensive liability to have a strong chance against a steady boxer who can punch.

boxfan99
10-09-2007, 11:40 AM
Anyone else have an interest in this one? I am picking Bute to win by KO and think it will be an exciting bout, at least the belt will be back in the hands of a top tier fighter and maybe we could get a final unification match after the MK/JC showdown.

Is anyone picking Berrio?:think

I agree with you nearly all the way, except I don't see it as being an exciting fight. I think it will be a fight totally controlled by Bute, who wisely doesn't take too big chances, and at round 5-8 Berrio will have been worn down and will get stopped.

Odo
10-09-2007, 12:12 PM
Anyone else have an interest in this one? I am picking Bute to win by KO and think it will be an exciting bout, at least the belt will be back in the hands of a top tier fighter and maybe we could get a final unification match after the MK/JC showdown.

Is anyone picking Berrio?:think

I also pick Bute by brutal ko victory over Berrio.
Berrio is one of the weakest champs out there.He was stopped by Stieglitz in their first encounter,and was easily outboxed by Stieglitz in their second encounter up the point the Russian ran into one of Berrio's clumsy haymakers.
Berrio is slow boxer with average skills whose only weapon is his firepower.A very predictable and one-dimensional fighter.Bute should be able to win big time against that Columbian.

C Money
10-09-2007, 12:29 PM
I'm quite interested and waffling a bit back and forth on the pick at the moment.

I havent seen anything special about Bute yet. Good but not special:nono

If Berrio delivers a spotty performance? maybe not.


I firmly believe Bute will be LUNCH MEAT for the winner or loser of Calzaghe vs Kessler.

boxfan99
10-09-2007, 12:29 PM
I also pick Bute by brutal ko victory over Berrio.
Berrio is one of the weakest champs out there.He was stopped by Stieglitz in their first encounter,and was easily outboxed by Stieglitz in their second encounter up the point the Russian ran into one of Berrio's clumsy haymakers.
Berrio is slow boxer with average skills whose only weapon is his firepower.A very predictable and one-dimensional fighter.Bute should be able to win big time against that Columbian.

I totally agree, I also had Stieglitz winning the first two rounds in their second fight, and he should have seen the first haymaker that originally put him down from a mile away.

Amsterdam
10-09-2007, 12:33 PM
I'm quite interested and waffling a bit back and forth on the pick at the moment.

I havent seen anything special about Bute yet. Good but not special:nono

If Berrio delivers a spotty performance? maybe not.


I firmly believe Bute will be LUNCH MEAT for the winner or loser of Calzaghe vs Kessler.

That's a given...:yep

Better resume mark than Berrio though for anyone, including maybe a unification with Mundine, who Bute can defeat.

C Money
10-09-2007, 01:00 PM
That's a given...:yep

Better resume mark than Berrio though for anyone, including maybe a unification with Mundine, who Bute can defeat.

I gotta see this fight before I'll be on board that he could beat Mundine.

unitas
10-09-2007, 01:04 PM
Cant really see berrio winning......but then again, i thought the same about stieglitz and look what happened!!!!!!!

bute better be carefull and bring his A-game....

brooklyn1550
10-09-2007, 04:11 PM
No, I've got Bute by KO or TKO as well

Astola
10-09-2007, 04:40 PM
Amsterdam - how do you rate Butes chin?

I havent really seen him being hit flush on the chin yet - Berrio is an awful, awful fighter with a poor offensive and defensive arsenal. He was very lucky against Stieglitz who basically outboxed him up until the KO.

Amsterdam
10-09-2007, 04:49 PM
Amsterdam - how do you rate Butes chin?

I havent really seen him being hit flush on the chin yet - Berrio is an awful, awful fighter with a poor offensive and defensive arsenal. He was very lucky against Stieglitz who basically outboxed him up until the KO.

I think Bute has a good chin, Bika caught him flush a few times. Bika's not a heavy, heavy hitter, but a guy with a suspect chin would have at least been rocked decently if Bika caught them flush several times, as Bika does have some moderate power.

Now, Bika and Berrio don't even compare with power, Berrio probably hits harder than anyone at SMW, but of course has a glass chin himself and has only workable skill level, which makes him look bad against guys who have real top 15 skill level and makes him look even worse against guys who have top 5 skill level, such as what I believe Bute has.

Astola
10-09-2007, 05:02 PM
I think Bute has a good chin, Bika caught him flush a few times. Bika's not a heavy, heavy hitter, but a guy with a suspect chin would have at least been rocked decently if Bika caught them flush several times, as Bika does have some moderate power.

Now, Bika and Berrio don't even compare with power, Berrio probably hits harder than anyone at SMW, but of course has a glass chin himself and has only workable skill level, which makes him look bad against guys who have real top 15 skill level and makes him look even worse against guys who have top 5 skill level, such as what I believe Bute has.


I dont believe that Berrio is the hardest hitter at SMW. Froch, Markussen, Lacy all have greater power. The punch that knocked out Stieglitz wasnt that big or anything. Stieglietz just has a weak chin.

If Bute has a chin he will KO Berrio in less than 7.

bigeddie27
10-09-2007, 05:27 PM
have to go with my fellow colombiano berrio. Should be a good one though.

bumdujour
10-09-2007, 05:28 PM
I dont believe that Berrio is the hardest hitter at SMW. Froch, Markussen, Lacy all have greater power. The punch that knocked out Stieglitz wasnt that big or anything. Stieglietz just has a weak chin.

If Bute has a chin he will KO Berrio in less than 7.

stieglitz has a weak chin:huh

this was the only time he was ever dropped...

Astola
10-09-2007, 05:33 PM
stieglitz has a weak chin:huh

this was the only time he was ever dropped...


It maybe - but I wasnt impressed by the shot he went down from. It was kind of short and direct and didnt look to carry that much power.

His chin may be decent but its def. not good:deal

Amsterdam
10-09-2007, 11:07 PM
It maybe - but I wasnt impressed by the shot he went down from. It was kind of short and direct and didnt look to carry that much power.

His chin may be decent but its def. not good:deal

Berrio also sparked Mack, which took the very, very hard hitting Andrade a lot of body work to wear Mack down.

I at least think that Mack showcased overall good punch resistance in his lack of defence considering the punishment he absorbed for 7 rounds against Andrade, who's definitley a great puncher. Andrade further showcased that cast iron jaw also...:yep

Hard chin and a hard punch, have to love that guy...:yep

Better than a weak chinned feather fist pansy like Amir Khan...:yep

Anyway, here is the comparison -

Berrio put Mack away in clearer fashion with maybe 20% of the work Andrade drilled Mack with, another indication of Berrio's power. If you rate Lacy's power better than it makes Calzaghe's chin made out of steel, considering Lacy landed a monster right hand in round 1 and Joe didn't even blink.:yep

It's that supernatural entity mate, you can't stop it.

chimba
10-09-2007, 11:08 PM
Bute by KO!!!!

Maxime
10-09-2007, 11:17 PM
I also pick Bute by brutal ko victory over Berrio.
Berrio is one of the weakest champs out there.He was stopped by Stieglitz in their first encounter,and was easily outboxed by Stieglitz in their second encounter up the point the Russian ran into one of Berrio's clumsy haymakers.
Berrio is slow boxer with average skills whose only weapon is his firepower.A very predictable and one-dimensional fighter.Bute should be able to win big time against that Columbian.
I never understand when people say Stieglitz was "easily outboxing" Berrio for the first 2 rounds of their second fight.

I thought the first two rounds were pretty close.

Maxime
10-09-2007, 11:18 PM
That's a given...:yep

Better resume mark than Berrio though for anyone, including maybe a unification with Mundine, who Bute can defeat.

1- Mundine is blind and will never fight again.

2- The WBA Regular title can not be unified.

:D

Maxime
10-09-2007, 11:19 PM
Is this fight going to be televised in the States?

Not as far as I know. ESPN FnF is off until next year.

But I think TVA or Videotron will be streaming the fight on the internet.

PH|LLA
10-09-2007, 11:25 PM
Referee stoppage in the 2nd half of the fight

teetop
10-09-2007, 11:43 PM
I think Bute will win, but not because I'm all that high on Bute. I'm probably also higher on Berrio than most, but he leaves himself too open defensively, and his chin is pretty shaky, and his style is so aggressive that I can see Bute catching him with a punch he never sees and putting him to sleep. Berrio's a stronger puncher and a quicker fighter than Bute, and his boxing skills are underrated, but he's too much of a defensive liability to have a strong chance against a steady boxer who can punch.

You had every thing right except that berrio is quicker than bute.
No way is the colombian faster.

Carlos Primera
10-10-2007, 01:20 AM
berrio is limited, with a questionable chin. bute KO's him, though he is getting overrated here.

goofy
10-10-2007, 02:15 AM
Bute is more of a fluid, southpaw Euro boxer with good movement and handspeed, moderate power.
Bute doesnt take any risks and that makes ppl think he has moderate power. He is going lately towards the easy UD wins. If he finds himself in trouble we will see (hopefully) his dark, agressive side . He hits very hard to the body with his left upercut when he is willing to stand up and trade. Unfortunately, he is taking that "u cant hit me approach" that is less spectacular. I prefer to watch Diaconu (less skills but more heart) than him.

Caliboxing
10-10-2007, 03:09 AM
Bute better keep his hands up or he's getting knocked out.

valdosta
10-10-2007, 04:48 AM
I never understand when people say Stieglitz was "easily outboxing" Berrio for the first 2 rounds of their second fight.

I thought the first two rounds were pretty close.

I had it 1-1 after the 2 rounds myself.

Odo
10-10-2007, 08:22 AM
I never understand when people say Stieglitz was "easily outboxing" Berrio for the first 2 rounds of their second fight.

I thought the first two rounds were pretty close.

Pretty close? Well,I for my part had no doubt who was ahead on points at the time Berrio knocked Stieglitz out.
"easily outboxing"
Well,watching Berrio vs Stieglitz II was a kind of deja vue,maxime.They seemed to be on the way to repeat their first encounter.
Berrio was competitive in their first encounter,too,but he always got the short end of the stick whether he went toe to toe with his foe or whether he tried to box.
Anyway! Stieglitz would probably win 9 out of 10 fights against Berrio.Bad luck for him that his last encounter with the limited Columbian was the 10th fight.

Odo
10-10-2007, 08:24 AM
stieglitz has a weak chin:huh

this was the only time he was ever dropped...

Barashian and Sellini also scored knockdowns against Stieglitz.
Nevertheless I wouldnt agree with someone who claims that Stieglitz has a weak chin.
His chin is okay,but his defence is quite sloppy.His defence has always been Stieglitz's weak spot IMO.He is a skilled,strong ,and powerful fighter but takes too many punches.