Ten favorite volume punchers alltime....

[burt bienstock]

Name ten of the best VOLUME punchers of alltime...I'll start...
Harry Greb
Henry Armstrong
Joe Frazier
Beau Jack
Ken Overlin [called poor man's Harry Greb }
Gil Turner
Meldrick Taylor
Hurricane Jackson
Rocky Marciano
Stanley Ketchel
P.S. Not necessarily in order of ability...

[Son of Gaul]

Name ten of the best VOLUME punchers of alltime...I'll start...
Harry Greb
Henry Armstrong
Joe Frazier
Beau Jack
Ken Overlin [called poor man's Harry Greb }
Gil Turner
Meldrick Taylor
Hurricane Jackson
Rocky Marciano
Stanley Ketchel
P.S. Not necessarily in order of ability...

Interesting thread. Glad to see Ketchel included.:good

[john garfield]

Name ten of the best VOLUME punchers of alltime...I'll start...
Harry Greb
Henry Armstrong
Joe Frazier
Beau Jack
Ken Overlin [called poor man's Harry Greb }
Gil Turner
Meldrick Taylor
Hurricane Jackson
Rocky Marciano
Stanley Ketchel
P.S. Not necessarily in order of ability...

Brings a smile, bb, to see names I saw train 'n fight live 'n never stopped BRINGIN' IT.

[tommygun711]

Hmmmm, In his prime Evander was very busy, not top ten though

[Mr Butt]

no jack kid berg :shock:

[Lobotomy]

Lenny and Ray Mancini come to mind, and I'm always inclined to place Pryor at the top of a list like this for Miami alone. (Has anybody else here seen footage of Lenny Mancini? Clips of the elder Boom Boom in action were frequently shown before Ray's earlier televised appearances.)

[Lobotomy]

Hmmmm, In his prime Evander was very busy, not top ten thoughHis first match with Qawi could put him in the running though. Mike Spinks outran and out boxed Dwight, while Evander gutted it out with sheer volume and hustle.

[burt bienstock]

Mr Butt, overlooked Jack Kid Berg, who I never saw, but was a whilwind puncher in the 1930s, and so was his older counytryman, and better fighter Ted Kid Lewis who had 282 fights...Ted KId Lewis would have been a challenge for even Ray Robinson, as a welterweight..Methinks...

[Lobotomy]

Mr Butt, overlooked Jack Kid Berg, who I never saw, but was a whilwind puncher in the 1930s, and so was his older counytryman, and better fighter Ted Kid Lewis who had 282 fights...Ted KId Lewis would have been a challenge for even Ray Robinson, as a welterweight..Methinks...The extant footage of the Smashing, Bashing, Dashing, Crashing, Slashing one, makes it clear he's an excellent candidate for this selection. I'd have to check to make sure, but he might have the most stoppage wins beyond round 15 of anybody during the last century.

[doug.ie]

soon as i seen this thread i thought of this amazing piece of footage right away...

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[Popkins]

Even though he wasn't a great fighter and the tactic failed him in his biggest fight, I'm inclined to throw Vassily Jirov's name in there, because for me that guy embodied volume punching. People can say guys like Armstrong and Frazier were volume punchers, and I suppose in essence they were, but really they were what I'd call variety punchers, in that their approach was a little more sophisticated and cultured than merely attempting to overwhelm with volume. Armstrong and Frazier mixed up their assaults with a purpose, and could throw accurate, perfect punches. In the fight with James Toney, Jirov's only tactic was to swamp him with volume, to keep throwing no matter what. When he is badly hurt near the end of the last round, it is quite breath-taking to see how he refuses to stop throwing, it's like a survival mechanism, he tries to hem Toney in and run the clock down while not allowing him room for his own shots simply by throwing throwing throwing. At various points in their careers, I think guys like Calzaghe, McCullough and Pryor did similarly. None of these guys had especially good technique or great precision, but they made up for it with intensity and volume.

[doug.ie]

just watched that last round against toney on youtube {god bless youtube}
fook me, it was amazing alright.

[Popkins]

just watched that last round against toney on youtube {god bless youtube}
fook me, it was amazing alright.

Probably my favourite round of all-time. :good

[rekcutnevets]

Manny Pacquiao really impressed me with his output in his last fight, against Clottey. I was really wondering if Pacquiao would run out of steam after 8 or so rounds, and get stopped while way ahead on points. Pacquiao was able to keep bringing it.

The reason I was so impressed is because of the power he committed to his shots, and didn't fade that much. I am really wondering how a fight between he and Pryor would go down at 140; or Armstrong at 135, 140, or 147.

[doug.ie]

Manny Pacquiao really impressed me with his output in his last fight, against Clottey. I was really wondering if Pacquiao would run out of steam after 8 or so rounds, and get stopped while way ahead on points. Pacquiao was able to keep bringing it.

The reason I was so impressed is because of the power he committed to his shots, and didn't fade that much. I am really wondering how a fight between he and Pryor would go down at 140; or Armstrong at 135, 140, or 147.


i still havent seen that fight yet.....was it good ?
i was stuck in a plane in washington and they wouldnt let us off because of a storm {we were supposed to have landed in new york}...long story.....but i was fuming i was missing the fight....
nothing on youtube, right ?

[Popkins]

i still havent seen that fight yet.....was it good ?
i was stuck in a plane in washington and they wouldnt let us off because of a storm {we were supposed to have landed in new york}...long story.....but i was fuming i was missing the fight....
nothing on youtube, right ?

It was a good fight, but a long way from a great one. Clottey's performance was bizarre to say the least. He seemed concerned only with limiting Pac to a low clean connect percentage by Compubox numbers, as if beating Pac on percentages alone would be some sort of moral victory. That's the only way I can rationalize how unbelievably negative, defensive, over-cautious and inhibited he was. He basically hid behind his gloves for the entire fight, hardly throwing any punches, and effectively functioning as a human pinata for the most part. Pac, to his credit, did his best for the fans in attendance, and attacked relentlessly, landing some fantastic ripping bodyshots and spearing Clottey's guard with fast slashing flurries. I scored it 12-0 for the Pacman, and I'm sure I gave him a 10-8 round or two for the extreme dominance on show.

[Addie]

I don't generally like to watch volume punches because I don't find them all to pleasing aesthetically. I prefer the calculated approach of a Canizales or Penalosa, and although I think Myung Woo Yuh was much more than just a volume puncher, he would often throw well over 100 punches a round. It was as he felt his opposition weakening that he'd open up a lot more, but he was very smart in his approach more often than not.

Can't really think of a classic example of a volume puncher I like.

[Popkins]

I don't generally like to watch volume punches because I don't find them all to pleasing aesthetically. I prefer the calculated approach of a Canizales or Penalosa, and although I think Myung Woo Yuh was much more than just a volume puncher, he would often throw well over 100 punches a round. It was as he felt his opposition weakening that he'd open up a lot more, but he was very smart in his approach more often than not.

Can't really think of a classic example of a volume puncher I like.

That's what I was trying to get at in my post. Pernell Whitaker often threw over 100 punches a round, but you couldn't call him a 'volume puncher'. A volume puncher is someone whose tactic is to win by overwhelming volume, which is different from someone who throws a lot of punches but does not necessarily rely on overwhelming their opponents with neverending waves of punches. Volume punchers are entertaining to an extent because they guarantee activity and competitiveness, but I agree they are not the most pleasing aesthetically. I prefer someone who sacrifices a little volume for more accuracy, commitment and potency. For instance, Manny Pacquiao throws millions of punches, but he is at his best when lasering shots in at precisely the right time and scoring KDs.

[Addie]

That's what I was trying to get at in my post. Pernell Whitaker often threw over 100 punches a round, but you couldn't call him a 'volume puncher'. A volume puncher is someone whose tactic is to win by overwhelming volume, which is different from someone who throws a lot of punches but does not necessarily rely on overwhelming their opponents with neverending waves of punches. Volume punchers are entertaining to an extent because they guarantee activity and competitiveness, but I agree they are not the most pleasing aesthetically. I prefer someone who sacrifices a little volume for more accuracy, commitment and potency. For instance, Manny Pacquiao throws millions of punches, but he is at his best when lasering shots in at precisely the right time and scoring KDs.

Manny is scary at the moment. You expect a reaction from his opponent every time he lands a punch, and to think this time last year I said Miguel Cotto would devastate the Filipino in double quick time.

[PetethePrince]

I think Basilio and LaMotta are solid examples.

[laxpdx]

Pryor
Armstrong
Duran
Marciano
Graziano
LaMotta
Hamsho
Cuevas
Hagler
Ayala

[anarci]

Of modern day fighters have to go with Zack"attack"Padilla non stop exciting volume puncher had some good wins and was WBO champ for a while, for the longest time he held like 2or the top 3 punch stat records for punches thrown in a fight. Dont know if record fight with Ray Oliviera still stands.

Also I like in no particular order Pocket rocet Wayne Mccullough. Vinne Pazienza,Antonio Margarito(:blood), Scotty Olson,Armando Muniz,Julio C Chavez,Victor Rabanales,Johnny TapiaTommy Cordova,Paul Banke many more those are just some modern day ones that came to mind.

[john garfield]

Of modern day fighters have to go with Zack"attack"Padilla non stop exciting volume puncher had some good wins and was WBO champ for a while, for the longest time he held like 2or the top 3 punch stat records for punches thrown in a fight. Dont know if record fight with Ray Oliviera still stands.

Also I like in no particular order Pocket rocet Wayne Mccullough. Vinne Pazienza,Antonio Margarito(:blood), Scotty Olson,Armando Muniz,Julio C Chavez,Victor Rabanales,Johnny TapiaTommy Cordova,Paul Banke many more those are just some modern day ones that came to mind.

Every one of those names brings buzzsaws to mind, a. Thanks for the reminder.