It's Time For Boxing Announcers To Take An Anatomy Class!!

[southpaw1974]

Hey guys,

We heard this in the De La Hoya/Hopkins fight, and we just heard this in the Hatton/Castillo fight, "He goes down from a liver shot". Excuse me Einstein, but the liver is in front of your body on the opposite side of your heart. How the fuck could a guy go down from a liver shot when he gets hit near his lats? Those were kidney shots.

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[cuchulain]

Hey guys,

We heard this in the De La Hoya/Hopkins fight, and we just heard this in the Hatton/Castillo fight, "He goes down from a liver shot". Excuse me Einstein, but the liver is in front of your body on the opposite side of your heart. How the fuck could a guy go down from a liver shot when he gets hit near his lats? Those were kidney shots.

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It would appear that your diagrams bears out that both shots (Oscar and Ricky) WERE liver shots.

Did you see the punches?

[Wige247]

From my bio class recollections, your kidneys are near your back. If you punched someone about 6 inches above either butt cheek, you'd be in kidney area. Your liver, sits just behind your ribs, and I think it extends a little bit south of your ribs o your right side. So a shot going up & in on your right ribs would hit the bottom of you liver. But that's just my memory from bio class.

[RDJ]

You don't feel a kidney punch unless it hits you on your back. It was definitely a liver shot.

[southpaw1974]

It would appear that your diagrams bear out that both shots (Oscar and Ricky) WERE liver shots.

Did you see the punches?

Of course I saw the punches...did you? The first diagram is where the punches landed. The liver does not extend all the way around towards your back. Those punches were much closer to the kidney than they were to the liver. In both cases, the fighter landing the body punch had to go behind their opponents elbow to land. To call those punches "left hooks to the liver" would be like calling the opposite a right hook to the heart". The heart is located right where the liver is, except slightly higher and on the opposite side of the frontal torso.

[chliJs]

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kidney shot? you must be kidning.
















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[southpaw1974]

Once again, the liver is located in the frontal part of the torso. Castillo is covering his liver, Ricky went behind the frontal torso behind the liver and towards the kidney.





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kidney shot? you must be kidning.

Once again, the liver is located in the frontal part of the torso. Castillo is covering his liver, Ricky went behind the frontal torso behind the liver and towards the kidney.














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[achillesthegreat]

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kidney shot? you must be kidning.

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That's not the ko. Unless its an after shot. He had his arms crossed initially. Maybe be a split second later. Hmmm.

[Wige247]

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kidney shot? you must be kidning.


You see that space between JLC left elbow and that mass of muscle called his lat? Well, on the opposite side of his body is the same empty space between his elbow & his lat, and in that space is the sweet spot for the liver shot.

[Chief_Second]

call it what you want - it cracked 2 ribs and caused a gutsy mexican to sit out the count

[Bazooka]

it doesnt matter if you think its in the front, when you get hit on the side your ribs bend with the shot and those ribs do make contact with that liver, again it was a liver shot.

[chliJs]

i just wanted to post that stupid pun. honestly, i think it can be either of it since it's castillo's right side.

[The Kurgan]

A shot to the kidneys could not possibly break two ribs. Hatton-Castillo was NOT a kidney shot. I can't even remember the Hopkins-DLH shot in detail, but I do remember it being pretty unimpressive.

As Mike Tyson said- "I understand anatomy", despite saying that he was trying to drive Ferguson's nose cartilage into his brain (not physically possible).

[smokey]

You're an f-ing idiot and must be pretty young. The kidneys are closest to the back. They behind other organs from the side. If you were older, you would probably have had a kidney infection or stones sometime in your life. Then you would damn well know by the searing pain where your kidneys are.

I don't think I saw Hatton throw a punch remotely close to the kidneys throughout the entire fights. An effective kidney punch is to the back side of the torso. If you'd ever been hit to the kidneys or had any kind of kidney ailment you would know this without a 3rd grade science book diagram.

[etong_08]

Not right either. It's most likely a ribcage shot. :D

[Sonny in Dallas]

Let's give this a rest. I'm worn out.

[thunder06]

Hatton hit him on the prostate.

[southpaw1974]

You're an f-ing idiot and must be pretty young. The kidneys are closest to the back. They behind other organs from the side. If you were older, you would probably have had a kidney infection or stones sometime in your life. Then you would damn well know by the searing pain where your kidneys are.

I don't think I saw Hatton throw a punch remotely close to the kidneys throughout the entire fights. An effective kidney punch is to the back side of the torso. If you'd ever been hit to the kidneys or had any kind of kidney ailment you would know this without a 3rd grade science book diagram.

First of all, you must be very immature and devoid of class to resort to name calling just because you disagree with me. You are actually disagreeing with a fact because the punch was much closer to the kidney than it was to the liver. In regards to my age, I'm 33 so I don't consider that to be "very young", unless you are 65. I don't think I need to have passed a kidney stone in order to have an opinion on where a punch landed. In addition, I have been hit in the kidneys because I was an amateur boxer. I know exactly where they are located, along with the liver. The body punch that Ward landed on Gatti was indeed a liver punch. The punches that Hopkins and Hatton landed were not liver punches, and were much closer to kidney punches, and at the very least to the lateral rib cage.

[GazOC]

That's not the ko. Unless its an after shot. He had his arms crossed initially. Maybe be a split second later. Hmmm.

You're right, the fighters were nearer the ropes as well. Hatton caught JLC with a few like that in the fight which the UK commentators didn't mention.

[Doomas]

Use your left hand and puch around your right ribcage slightly, most painfull spot (deep painfull) will be near liver. Maby it wasnt liver shot, but dam, would you fight on with two broken ribs?

[Stinky gloves]

From my bio class recollections, your kidneys are near your back. If you punched someone about 6 inches above either butt cheek, you'd be in kidney area. Your liver, sits just behind your ribs....

If Castillo have 2 ribs broken on the right side then it definitely was a "liver shot".

[BeeGee]

gettin hit ne where near the liver area shakes up the liver. It doesnt have to be a direst shot on the liver. The surrounding bone and muscle drive into the liver. Ne one whose actually been hit with a liver shot knows what im talking about. A kidney shot is completly on the back. And in case u havent noticed, the liver is a large organ. So, hitting the lat, slightly behind the lat, the side of the rib cage, and the front of the right rib cage ala a left hook, will considerably shake up the liver. If u dont believe me, have a friend lace up sum gloves and give u a shot.

[southpaw1974]

gettin hit ne where near the liver area shakes up the liver. It doesnt have to be a direst shot on the liver. The surrounding bone and muscle drive into the liver. Ne one whose actually been hit with a liver shot knows what im talking about. A kidney shot is completly on the back. And in case u havent noticed, the liver is a large organ. So, hitting the lat, slightly behind the lat, the side of the rib cage, and the front of the right rib cage ala a left hook, will considerably shake up the liver. If u dont believe me, have a friend lace up sum gloves and give u a shot.

This makes sense, and could possibly be accurate. I think that the shot was definitely not directly on the liver. It might have been in that spot that is between the liver and the kidney and thus could have affected both organs.