why the hell isnt khan fighting yuri romanov???

[bumdujour]

I mean the guy is fighting earl for the british belt, when he could face romanov for the euro belt.

and considering that earl holds a rather recent win over romanov, it´s not like this will be a much tougher fight for him.

and since he wont make lightweight much longer, this fight would make sense instead of waiting.

[Big Ears]

First of all Earl doesn't have a belt , Jon Thaxton is the British champ and imo a better fighter than Earl .

Second Romanov would be a much tougher fight than Earl .
Yuri was very inactive at the time of his fight with Earl , he lost the early rounds due to rust and grew as the fight went on . He rocked Earl badly on a few occasions and I think if he had been more active he would of stopped Earl . In the end I still had Romanov a 1 point winner .

Earl fought the fight of his live and had a good style to cope with Romanov , if you compare how the two dealt with slick fighters(using a fighter both have fought in Vanzie) then Romanov comes out much better .

Romanov dropped Vanzie 5 times on route to stopping him in 8 rounds , where as Earl fought him twice and won two controversial decisions .
Earl has more wear on him , his chin isn't that great and he isn't that much of a puncher either(usualy stopping people on accumulation) and he isn't the most accurate or slick fighter himself(as shown by him getting schooled by Burns) .

It makes sense fighting Earl now , it's a fight which Khan can win and win looking very very good(probably better than Katsidis did) . I very much doubt he'd beat Romanov though .

[bumdujour]

First of all Earl doesn't have a belt , Jon Thaxton is the British champ and imo a better fighter than Earl .

Second Romanov would be a much tougher fight than Earl .
Yuri was very inactive at the time of his fight with Earl , he lost the early rounds due to rust and grew as the fight went on . He rocked Earl badly on a few occasions and I think if he had been more active he would of stopped Earl . In the end I still had Romanov a 1 point winner .

Earl fought the fight of his live and had a good style to cope with Romanov , if you compare how the two dealt with slick fighters(using a fighter both have fought in Vanzie) then Romanov comes out much better .

Romaov dropped Vanzie 5 times on route to stopping him in 8 rounds , where as Earl fought him twice and won two conttoversial decisions .
Earl has more wear on him , his chin isn't that great and he isn't that much of a puncher either(usualy stopping people on accumulation) and he isn't the most accurate or slick fighter himself(as shown by him getting schooled by Burns) .

It makes sense fighting Earl now , it's a fight which Khan can win and win looking very very good(probably better than Katsidis did) . I very much doubt he'd beat Romanov though .

really?? i didnt know that, just went by what boxrec said about earl and romanov

and you really think khan is so limited he cant even beat romanov??

[Big Ears]

really?? i didnt know that, just went by what boxrec said about earl and romanov

and you really think khan is so limited he cant even beat romanov??

Khan isn't limited at all , he's a fantastic boxer with blinding speed and good power . it's his chin that will let him down(just like the man in my avatar) .

Romanov is a very hard puncher(harder than his record indicates) and throws a laser like straight right hand . He's very similar to Tszyu in a lot of ways and the straight right hand seems the punch Khan is most open to . Any fighter that isn't Mayweather quick is going to have to eat at least a few of those right hands to beat Romanov and I just don't think Khan is going to be able to take Romanov's punches .

[Claypole]

I've watched several of Romanov's fights, and he is too good for Khan in my opinion. Amir's chin would simply shatter.

[rooq]

I mean the guy is fighting earl for the british belt, when he could face romanov for the euro belt.

and considering that earl holds a rather recent win over romanov, it´s not like this will be a much tougher fight for him.

and since he wont make lightweight much longer, this fight would make sense instead of waiting.

it'd make no sense. one step at a time please, romanov is a step up from both earl and thaxton. earl might have a win over him, but i don't think he has much left going off his last 2 fights.

also, khan only struggled to make weight this time because of fasting and still looked very good. he should be able to make the weight for a good couple of years yet, so theres plenty of time.

[NOrth]

Is Khans chin poor, or was his defence simply shocking...? answer on a postcard to...

[achillesthegreat]

This is a silly thread. The route is clear - Earl then Thaxton, then look at the landscape. Those two fights at the moment, look tough enough.

[elle]

Is Khans chin poor, or was his defence simply shocking...? answer on a postcard to...



Could be a bit of both.

[hitman_hatton1]

cos romanov would pay his arse. :yep

[rydersonthestorm]

Well i think it's his defence more than anything, did anyone watch the super light hitting steven bell drop femi fehintola, was that becuase steven was a hard puncher, no, was it becuase femi's weak chinned , no, is it becuase if you walk onto a shot unless you have a chin like tua you can get dropped by even a light hitting fighter.

[Big Ears]

Well i think it's his defence more than anything, did anyone watch the super light hitting steven bell drop femi fehintola, was that becuase steven was a hard puncher, no, was it becuase femi's weak chinned , no, is it becuase if you walk onto a shot unless you have a chin like tua you can get dropped by even a light hitting fighter.

While in a way you do make a good point , I believe Fehintola doesn't take punches that well(he went down very easily for some of the knockdowns against Johanneson) and although Bell's a light enough hitter he's a respectable one .

While I think almost anyone can be floored by a shot even if it's a light hitter(off balance , didn't see the punch etc) you don't get put on queer street by a light hitter unless there is something wrong with your chin .

Listen I'm not trying to be an asshole here ,some may get the perception I don't like Khan . While I don't like his hype machine he doesn't seem too bad a kid himself .
See that guy in my avatar , he's a hero of mine but his chin is pretty weak . I denied it for long enough , he was all over the place against Voronin........I said Voronin's a very hard puncher(which is true) , people said Walstad wobbled him , I said maybe a little but not too badly(which I still think is true) .

The point is you can only fool yourself for so long

[rydersonthestorm]

The whole point i am making is you don't know either way, and i don't think people should be as quick to judge him. I think people should wait until he fight's a bigger puncher before declaring he has a glass jaw or he is chinny, say if thaxton or earl crack him with some good shots and he doesn't go down alot of people will still say well limond knocked him down.
Also bell is one of the lightest hitting fighter's i have seen and couldn't do anything to femi apart from the first knockdown.

[Big Ears]

The whole point i am making is you don't know either way, and i don't think people should be as quick to judge him. I think people should wait until he fight's a bigger puncher before declaring he has a glass jaw or he is chinny, say if thaxton or earl crack him with some good shots and he doesn't go down alot of people will still say well limond knocked him down.
Also bell is one of the lightest hitting fighter's i have seen and couldn't do anything to femi apart from the first knockdown.

Whatever about Earl(who stops and hurts people on accumulation) if Khan can take some flush shots from Thaxton I won't question his chin anymore .

[elle]

The whole point i am making is you don't know either way, and i don't think people should be as quick to judge him. I think people should wait until he fight's a bigger puncher before declaring he has a glass jaw or he is chinny, say if thaxton or earl crack him with some good shots and he doesn't go down alot of people will still say well limond knocked him down.


No, we don't know either way - the jury is still out for me but on the evidence so far I think its fair to say his chin is suspect.

Its not just the knockdown he suffered in the Limond fight, he was also dropped heavily by Watson towards the end of his amateur career.
The flash knockdown he suffered against Drilzane did appear to be more of a slip against the ropes in fairness to Khan.

The fact Khan is consistently matched against light hitters has also undoubtedly added to the questioning of his chin - this won't go away until he is put in with a puncher.

[scurlaruntings]

I mean the guy is fighting earl for the british belt, when he could face romanov for the euro belt.

and considering that earl holds a rather recent win over romanov, it´s not like this will be a much tougher fight for him.

and since he wont make lightweight much longer, this fight would make sense instead of waiting.Yuri destroyed some of our best british lightweights some years back. He would spoil Khans gravy train very very badly. FW knows this. Theres no way Frank would put him in the rig with a guy like that. His destruction of Murray and Vanzie was absolutely brutal espcially Murray. As for his Earl bout he was blatantly robbed.

[Max Molyneux]

Whatever about Earl(who stops and hurts people on accumulation) if Khan can take some flush shots from Thaxton I won't question his chin anymore .

Thaxton can certainly chin check Khan but think Khan will see those slow hooks coming. If he was quick and not a poor mans Witter with them I'd think he'd chin check Khan but Amir will see them coming.

[Big Ears]

Thaxton can certainly chin check Khan but think Khan will see those slow hooks coming. If he was quick and not a poor mans Witter with them I'd think he'd chin check Khan but Amir will see them coming.

Thaxton looked pretty uneducated in his last fight but he can throw shots a lot sharper and more accurate than that . Even if he doesn't I reckon he will still land a good few .

Thaxton doesn't mind having to take shots to land his own , he's not the type of guy like Lawton who covers up while being hit and waiting for the assault to end before trying to give anything back . Khan is most vulnerable while he's throwing and when he's on the offensive , and for me his lateral movement isn't good enough when he's looking to land combos on opponents and while he is a very slick fighter he can be a little upright .

Limond caught Khan while Khan was coming in trying to land some hard shots in combination(Khan trys to throw a double left hook to the head and got caught with a clubbing right hand) .

This is why I think Khan having success against Thaxton(which I'm guessing he will) will lead to his downfall as he is very open when throwing his own shots and against the type of guys that aren't discouraged to counter by their opponents shots and can take a few shots themselves , he will have a lot of problems .

Whenever Khan gets brave and goes in to trade it will be his downfall . If he boxes an altra cautious fight he may be able to win a wide decision.........but I do mean ultra cautious .

[doggyland]

Yuri is a good fighter - he was unlucky against Earl in Dagenham - though to be fair Earl rallied well. Yuri is much more slick.

[dwilson]

I like the look of an Earl vs Khan fight more then Romanov vs Khan. Romanov is another European never was. He is talented but happy doing nothing.

[IronBull]

So for this stage Khan at 20 and 14 fights, hes has had decent enough competition. Those asking for Khan to be rushed are usually the ones want that want to see him fail.

[elle]

So for this stage Khan at 20 and 14 fights, hes has had decent enough competition.

His last bout with Scott 'didn't try alot' Lawton was a step backwards from his previous fight in terms of level of opposition - unless you call completely one sided contests decent enough competition when you are predicting you will be a World Champ within 5 fights.


Those asking for Khan to be rushed are usually the ones want that want to see him fail.

Perhaps someone should tell Khan that - he seems to be the one in the biggest rush of all.

[kerrminator]

So for this stage Khan at 20 and 14 fights, hes has had decent enough competition. Those asking for Khan to be rushed are usually the ones want that want to see him fail.

Come on man, Limond had only fought twice in the time Khan had racked up all of his 12 bouts and lets not forget that Limond is a natural super feather who had only just moved up to lightweight the previous fight. Oh, and Limond is only a part time fighter who has a full time job with Glasgow council (not to mention his lower that average KO ratio)

[stake501]

Limond haas said on this site himself, he was more comfortable at Lightweight...ffs...he wasa the commonwealth champion at that weight, he didnt move up to fight Khan at 135. He only may havae fought twice, but it was against better quality than what Khan had fought previously.

And it is disingenous to write off Limond as a part-timer. He trained as a full-timer for that fight, and imo put up a brilliant performance. I dont know why people are saying hes a shower of shite when he is fact a very good highly skilled pro.

[Claypole]

It doesn't matter if Limond is a part time fighter.

Limond had more ring experience than Khan and was a perfect test for Khan at that stage of his career!!That may be true, but all his other opponents have been far from tests. All his matchups (apart from Limond) have been for the purposes of whipping up media hype rather than developing Khan's talent.
Take a look at who he's faced so far, they're all out of the same mould. Upright with little head and upper body movement, (to highlight Khan's speed and accuracy), lacking aggression or ambition (so as to not dent his confidence). They usually have reasonable records and are fair boxers. (this is to give the illusion of a "test"). Oh, and of course, as we all well know, little power. This is to prevent the bubble bursting before the big payday.
Limond has been the only risky opponent, and look how it all nearly came off the rails!

He seems to be rushing to build up an impressive looking record, statistically speaking, without learning how to fight. The Scott Lawtons of the boxing world will not help him prepare for the likes of Romanov one little bit.

[kerrminator]

Limond haas said on this site himself, he was more comfortable at Lightweight...ffs...he wasa the commonwealth champion at that weight, he didnt move up to fight Khan at 135. He only may havae fought twice, but it was against better quality than what Khan had fought previously.

And it is disingenous to write off Limond as a part-timer. He trained as a full-timer for that fight, and imo put up a brilliant performance. I dont know why people are saying hes a shower of shite when he is fact a very good highly skilled pro.
I have never said Limond is shite and have always rated him as a decent domestic level boxer. He won the commonwealth in his previous fight against another guy who moved up from superfeatherweight. Limond is a proud fighter and he will never back down from an opponent and ****** saw him as a fighter with a decent pedigree that Khan could look good against without much risk (due to his inactivity) and he very nearly knocked him out. The long count was a disgrace and the ref actually pulling Khan to his feet instead of continuing to count was a disgrace. Limond IS a part time fighter and still had to work whilst he trained for the Khan fight coz unfortunately he hasnt got the kind of cash that allows him to take weeks off his work.
The hype of Khan was almost brought to an abrupt end that night and that is why he was put in with Lawton, he's a light puncher(well, that night he was a non puncher). ******, the pundits and most importantly the fans are all now questioning his whiskers and until he is tested against an opponent with a bit of a dig and comes back from adversity so to speak this question mark will always be there.

Khan can also comfortably make Light Welter which suggests to me his days at lightweight are numbered and then he will havee no choice but to be tested aginst guys with better power (its no coincidence that he looks huge compared to all his opponents and neither is it a coincidence that they all have lower than average KO ratio's)