Hatton to get $10,000,000 new 3 fight HBO deal if he beats Castillo

[Dunky McCafferty]

Now please tell me how he deserves this kind of deal if he beats Castillo.
The way I look at it is Hattons best win was against an old inactive Tszyu, & since then hes won unremarkable fights against the likes of Maussa & Urango, & was arguably beaten by Collazo.

Now many many people think Castillo is 'shot' & there for the taking kinda like Tszyu was, so does Hatton deserve a megabucks deal for winning this fight? I really dont think so. Fair play to Ricky if he wins, however I am perplexed at this massive financial carrot on offer for what many people would see as a good win, but not a great one.

So where do the rest of you stand on this one, do you think Ricky Hatton deserves to be given such a massive contract by HBO for beating Castillo?

[IronBull]

I think Hatton got an offer from BBC.. but he reject it!! :patsch

[Hitman_Hatton]

Hes an undefeated world class fighter, has a likeable personality with an all action style and one of the biggest fan bases in boxing along with Oscar and Cotto (although i doubt 10,000 Oscar or Cotto fans would travel across the distance Hattons fans would to see them fight). If he gets by Castillo he will have his name on his resume along with Tszyu aswell as some other very respectable solid B level fighters. He has potential fights down the line with Cotto, Mayweather, Diaz, Malignaggi, Witter. So yes i can see why HBO are keen on getting rights to his next few fights. They are probably expecting him in even more demand after the Castillo fight as it has all the makings of a classic.

[Jack]

Now many many people think Castillo is 'shot' & there for the taking kinda like Tszyu wasThat's complete bollocks. if it was anything close to being true, hatton would have been the favourite to win. He wasn't. Experts picked Tszyu, bookies favoured Tszyu and most fans gave him the edge too. It's not like this is Duran against Joppy. Tszyu was an elite fighter, ranked #3 by The Ring at the time and coming off a 13 fight winning streak over 8 years. not to mention his complete dominance of the division.

And Castillo isn't shot either. Two bad performances, but the last time he was beaten was against Corrales, which was disputed. He destroyed him in the rematch. Prior to that, 5 years ago against Mayweather. Hardly 'Bum of the month', is it?

Anyway, it's simple. Hatton is a draw and all his next fights will be big.

[achillesthegreat]

If he beats Castillo then yes he does deserve something of this ilk.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Hes an undefeated world class fighter, has a likeable personality with an all action style and one of the biggest fan bases in boxing along with Oscar and Cotto (although i doubt 10,000 Oscar or Cotto fans would travel across the distance Hattons fans would to see them fight). If he gets by Castillo he will have his name on his resume along with Tszyu aswell as some other very respectable solid B level fighters. He has potential fights down the line with Cotto, Mayweather, Diaz, Malignaggi, Witter. So yes i can see why HBO are keen on getting rights to his next few fights. They are probably expecting him in even more demand after the Castillo fight as it has all the makings of a classic.

Fair enough HH, you mke a good argument for your boy & it aint my intentions to take this down the usual hatton thread route that turns into a slanging match. So you think hatton WILL fight against some of the names you mentioned if he beats Castillo? Thats the bit I worry about, going by Hattons past record I could see him if he defeats Castillo taking 3 unremarkable fights, picking up ten million & retiring.

Thats how I dont like the sound of this deal, it sounds like easy money for Hatton to me. Your a man in the know about Hatton, so do you know if theres a 'superfight' clause written into this latest deal that Hatton hs to fight a big name & not just belt holders? Honest question.

[Dunky McCafferty]

That's complete bollocks. if it was anything close to being true, hatton would have been the favourite to win. He wasn't. Experts picked Tszyu, bookies favoured Tszyu and most fans gave him the edge too. It's not like this is Duran against Joppy. Tszyu was an elite fighter, ranked #3 by The Ring at the time and coming off a 13 fight winning streak over 8 years. not to mention his complete dominance of the division.

And Castillo isn't shot either. Two bad performances, but the last time he was beaten was against Corrales, which was disputed. He destroyed him in the rematch. Prior to that, 5 years ago against Mayweather. Hardly 'Bum of the month', is it?

Anyway, it's simple. Hatton is a draw and all his next fights will be big.

Jack, I have never said Castillo was shot. Im unsure, cos I havent seen his last two fights. I just read the posters on the forums, & most overseas posters think Castillo is shot, or has seen better days. As for Tszyu? I was just using his name as a comparison, rightly or wrongly.
As I asked HH though, do you think Hatton will feature in a megafight if he beats Castillo? Cos I think he may take 3 low risk fghts, pick up 10million quid & pack it in. Im going on past form.

Anyway Im not trying to pick a fight, just asking some searching questions:good

[Hitman_Hatton]

Well if he gets by Castillo and its a convincing performance i believe any of those fights could happen. If he is tied up to HBO they will obviously looking for the biggest fights which out of the names i mentioned are clearly Cotto and Floyd. With HBO calling the shots i see the Malignaggi and Witter fights becoming less likely as they are big risk fights with awkward style clashes aswell as Paulie and Junior not being household names. So yes i could see at least 1 of those 3 fights being against either Cotto or Mayweather i can't see HBO giving Rick $10 million dollars to be fighting fringe contenders they will be wanting some serious $$$ back from his fights and that means big buyrates which in turn means big names.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Well if he gets by Castillo and its a convincing performance i believe any of those fights could happen. If he is tied up to HBO they will obviously looking for the biggest fights which out of the names i mentioned are clearly Cotto and Floyd. With HBO calling the shots i see the Malignaggi and Witter fights becoming less likely as they are big risk fights with awkward style clashes aswell as Paulie and Junior not being household names. So yes i could see at least 1 of those 3 fights being against either Cotto or Mayweather i can't see HBO giving Rick $10 million dollars to be fighting fringe contenders they will be wanting some serious $$$ back from his fights and that means big buyrates which in turn means big names.

I hope you are right HH, I just want to see Hatton in with the best, so we can find out once & for all just how good Hatton is:good Its been a long time coming, but a fight with Castillo is a step in the right direction at last.

[Club Fighter]

Now please tell me how he deserves this kind of deal if he beats Castillo.
The way I look at it is Hattons best win was against an old inactive Tszyu, & since then hes won unremarkable fights against the likes of Maussa & Urango, & was arguably beaten by Collazo.

Now many many people think Castillo is 'shot' & there for the taking kinda like Tszyu was, so does Hatton deserve a megabucks deal for winning this fight? I really dont think so. Fair play to Ricky if he wins, however I am perplexed at this massive financial carrot on offer for what many people would see as a good win, but not a great one.

So where do the rest of you stand on this one, do you think Ricky Hatton deserves to be given such a massive contract by HBO for beating Castillo?

Very profound post. I take exception to nothing written in there. I have a hard time understanding this as well, especially since nobody cares about him in the States. On top of all that he's not very good or even marketable with a mug only a mother could love. I suppose I've seen HBO make worse deals. I guess this is the kind of thing you resort to when you've got MMA closing in in your rearview mirror.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Some Hatton quotes on the proposed HBO deal-

"I need a stonking performance to make the next deal better. A big show will open so many doors. My ideal scenario is to look terrific & get another 3 fight agreement.
"For any fighter to land a contract with HBO is fanstastic. For an english boxer to do it is something extra. If I produce a mediocre win, my hands are going to be tied when we sit down at the negotiating table. So this is a big fight for me in more ways than one"
"The future is packed with opportunities. I hope to have a homecoming and fight again in England.
"we are speaking to bosses of the new Wembley & Man city stadiums & I would like to come bck for the fans who helped me get where I am"
---------------------------

Its those quotes that had me asking questions, cos he didnt talk of any megafights, just getting his new deal & coming back home.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Very profound post. I take exception to nothing written in there. I have a hard time understanding this as well, especially since nobody cares about him in the States. On top of all that he's not very good or even marketable with a mug only a mother could love. I suppose I've seen HBO make worse deals. I guess this is the kind of thing you resort to when you've got MMA closing in in your rearview mirror.

Thank you CF my man:good

[Strike]

The most annoying thing is how everyone now says Tszyu was shot or on the way down as if it is a fact. The only fact is that in his previous fight he destroyed Mitchell and proclaimed himself to be in peak shape for the Hatton fight. EVERYONE bar a handful of Hatton fanatics picked Tszyu to win by KO and yet as soon as Hatton won the bullshit comes out.

There was no evidence he was on the slide and he has never said anything akin to such himself. In fact he fought how he has always fought, methodical, quite flat footed, but very accurate and very focused.

Now the haters are already getting the excuse in early, they are calling Castillo shot of the back of one bad performance in his last bout at a new weight. Just like Calzaghe was shot after his fight with Bika. Well in that case Hatton is shot too, so we have two shot fighters facing each other.:roll:

If Castillo wins you will never hear the end of it and Hatton was a "fraud". If Hatton wins "Castillo was shot".
Funny because Judah had lost to Baldomir and then again in his next fight (albeit to PBF) and yet Cotto beating him is hailed as world class and incredible.

Only a year ago Castillo starched Coralles and making weight was his main problem, once settled at 140 he should be stronger.

[Amsterdam]

I think Hatton got an offer from BBC.. but he reject it!! :patsch

Should Khan get a 10,000,000$ deal? Do you want to make a case for that?:lol:

[sandwichsurgeon]

Should Khan get a 10,000,000$ deal? Do you want to make a case for that?:lol:

OI!!!!

Don't you think there are enough car crashes in this country without him being able to buy supercars for him and his friends?

[David UK]

Now please tell me how he deserves this kind of deal if he beats Castillo.
The way I look at it is Hattons best win was against an old inactive Tszyu, & since then hes won unremarkable fights against the likes of Maussa & Urango, & was arguably beaten by Collazo.

Now many many people think Castillo is 'shot' & there for the taking kinda like Tszyu was, so does Hatton deserve a megabucks deal for winning this fight? I really dont think so. Fair play to Ricky if he wins, however I am perplexed at this massive financial carrot on offer for what many people would see as a good win, but not a great one.

So where do the rest of you stand on this one, do you think Ricky Hatton deserves to be given such a massive contract by HBO for beating Castillo?

It simple economics Dunk. This is the last fight of his HBO contract. Hatton is one of the world's most exciting fighters(and he's an endearing and down to earth personality) and HBO want to retain his services. They are prepared to pay more than the competition for Ricky to ply his labour on their channel rather than someone else's. It's not so much that he deserves it,it's just the way the world works in so far as most of us will try to obtain the best deal for our labour, whatever job we do.

Clearly HBO will have some input into who he will fight against. He can't just fight three bums and take the money!! This was the main reason he moved fought Collazo at 147 rather han Rabah at 140.

[Amsterdam]

OI!!!!

Don't you think there are enough car crashes in this country without him being able to buy supercars for him and his friends?

Bull himself would want this deal, so his buddy Amir can buy him something nice.:lol:

[kel]

He deserves it

[Max Molyneux]

Now please tell me how he deserves this kind of deal if he beats Castillo.
The way I look at it is Hattons best win was against an old inactive Tszyu, & since then hes won unremarkable fights against the likes of Maussa & Urango, & was arguably beaten by Collazo.

Now many many people think Castillo is 'shot' & there for the taking kinda like Tszyu was, so does Hatton deserve a megabucks deal for winning this fight? I really dont think so. Fair play to Ricky if he wins, however I am perplexed at this massive financial carrot on offer for what many people would see as a good win, but not a great one.

So where do the rest of you stand on this one, do you think Ricky Hatton deserves to be given such a massive contract by HBO for beating Castillo?

Where did you find out about that?

[NOrth]

news of the world reported it yesterday

[ron u.k.]

As a huge Kostya fan it hurt to see him get beat and quit on his stool the way he did.Kostya coming in too the fight with Hatton was still a great fighter.I think the reason most people say Kostya was a shot fighter is because when you look at the history book a few years from now a Hatton victory over Tszyu is gonna look very strange considering the large gap in terms of greatness between the two fighters.So Hatton beat Tszyu so he needs to be given the credit but so too did Vince Philips as Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson, these fucked up results very occasionally happen in boxing!I was a Hatton fan b4 the Tszyu fight he was bustling move forward attacking in fighter but since that fight he has lost me.Ok beating my favorite fighter Kostya may have got him a bit offside with me but simply he aint looked that good since and this constant holding bullshit he's been pulling since the Tszyu fight and beyond well not one hardcore fight fan could say they've enjoyed watching it.He's turned into a mini john Ruiz unfortunately!He's winning his fights very ugly.Castillo looked bad v Ngoudjo so Hatton will probably get by him pretty easy but if he fights a Cotto or Mayweather he'll get hammered.As far as the contract with HBO goes,I think he's not really a $10 mil fighter in terms of talent but he has the score on the board and has built a great record so he deserves a pretty huge pay day in that respect.i think that's a pretty good post

[David UK]

As a huge Kostya fan it hurt to see him get beat and quit on his stool the way he did.Kostya coming in too the fight with Hatton was still a great fighter.I think the reason most people say Kostya was a shot fighter is because when you look at the history book a few years from now a Hatton victory over Tszyu is gonna look very strange considering the large gap in terms of greatness between the two fighters.So Hatton beat Tszyu so he needs to be given the credit but so too did Vince Philips as Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson, these fucked up results very occasionally happen in boxing!I was a Hatton fan b4 the Tszyu fight he was bustling move forward attacking in fighter but since that fight he has lost me.Ok beating my favorite fighter Kostya may have got him a bit offside with me but simply he aint looked that good since and this constant holding bullshit he's been pulling since the Tszyu fight and beyond well not one hardcore fight fan could say they've enjoyed watching it.He's turned into a mini john Ruiz unfortunately!He's winning his fights very ugly.Castillo looked bad v Ngoudjo so Hatton will probably get by him pretty easy but if he fights a Cotto or Mayweather he'll get hammered.As far as the contract with HBO goes,I think he's not really a $10 mil fighter in terms of talent but he has the score on the board and has built a great record so he deserves a pretty huge pay day in that respect.

You can't seriously put Hatton in the same bracket as Phillips and Douglas. Hatton was flying through the division with exciting performances which was not happening with Phillips or Douglas. And Douglas lost in his first defence

[victorhugo4222]

I think its just the yanks being daft again sure Hatton is a good fighter but $10M for 3 fights??? They do the same with everything look at David Beckham hes 32 and way past his best so the americans are giving him a 5 year contract worth £128M!!!

[NOrth]

I dont think 10m for his next 3 fights is so far off the mark, he has to be one of the most marketable fighters in the world, his casual following is second to none in the UK and providing they can get him the fights (and not maussa types) then it'll be money well spent. Should the Castillo fight live up to its potential a rematch would be a certainty.

[BigEars]

Don't be silly. The highest viewing figure he's ever had is 350,000.

What about the re showing of the Urango fight on BBC , surely there is a good chance that , that surpassed that .

Which really would say a lot if the re showing of one fight a week later on terrestrial is higher than anything he's ever got on Satellite .

[GazOC]

The case for Hatton being worth a $10,000,000 contract is that boxing is a free market and run as a business, so he obviously is worth $10,000,000 to HBO or they wouldn't pay it.

[NOrth]

Don't be silly. The highest viewing figure he's ever had is 350,000.

No other fighter in the UK has a better casual following than ricky. When he fights all sorts of boxing fans come out of the woodwork. 20,000 people crammed into the MEN to watch him fight the likes of virches. 8,000 flying to Vegas.

I'd say he was just ahead of Calzaghe in the UK, although joe's move to ITV certainarly raised his stock. makes you wonder how big Ricky would be should he perform on ITV!

Also, I'll wager he's had more than 350,000 before he went PPV ?!?! Where di you get the figures from?

[NOrth]

many are, but many aren't. I was in the local boozer only last night and 3 or 4 people mentioned the Hatton fight to me. Not one of them would ever mention Nuumbembe Anderson, or Moore Macklin. Another friend of mine who has near zero interest in boxing is having a group of mates around his house for the fight.

[hitman_hatton1]

Hes an undefeated world class fighter, has a likeable personality with an all action style and one of the biggest fan bases in boxing along with Oscar and Cotto (although i doubt 10,000 Oscar or Cotto fans would travel across the distance Hattons fans would to see them fight). If he gets by Castillo he will have his name on his resume along with Tszyu aswell as some other very respectable solid B level fighters. He has potential fights down the line with Cotto, Mayweather, Diaz, Malignaggi, Witter. So yes i can see why HBO are keen on getting rights to his next few fights. They are probably expecting him in even more demand after the Castillo fight as it has all the makings of a classic.

hell yeah. :yep

the maussa and collazo fights were exciting.

despite what u thought of the performances.

[ron u.k.]

i reckon if hatton fought a de la hoya or a mayweather he could fill the 76000 capacity old trafford.

[jc]

Lets just ask ourselves, when was the last time Scotland had a fighter on the level of a Ricky Hatton...?:D


Anyway back to the subject, if HBO have offered that kind of money, then they obviously have some reason to beleive that he is worth that kind of money. They dont throw money away!

[victorhugo4222]

Lets just ask ourselves, when was the last time Scotland had a fighter on the level of a Ricky Hatton...?:D


Anyway back to the subject, if HBO have offered that kind of money, then they obviously have some reason to beleive that he is worth that kind of money. They dont throw money away!

Scott Harrison was def on the level of Hatton he was just daft enough to stick with ****** and co and thats why he never got any top fights. Only thing hatton had over harrison was the sense to ditch ******!!!

[ron u.k.]

Lets just ask ourselves, when was the last time Scotland had a fighter on the level of a Ricky Hatton...?:D


Anyway back to the subject, if HBO have offered that kind of money, then they obviously have some reason to beleive that he is worth that kind of money. They dont throw money away!cue dunky!

[jc]

Scott Harrison was def on the level of Hatton he was just daft enough to stick with ****** and co and thats why he never got any top fights. Only thing hatton had over harrison was the sense to ditch ******!!!

:blood Do the Scots really beleive this?

Hatton won the linear title with ******...

Also hattons pre world title record (or his ****** record if you like:D )equals that of Scot Harrisons reign as champ.

Harrison didnt show anything that would suggest he would belongs on anybodys top p4p list. And these top fights you are talking about, i guess you mean Barrera, Morales and Marquez?..a i cant see Scott winning a round against those guys.

[victorhugo4222]

:blood Do the Scots really beleive this?

Hatton won the linear title with ******...

Also hattons pre world title record (or his ****** record if you like:D )equals that of Scot Harrisons reign as champ.

Harrison didnt show anything that would suggest he would belongs on anybodys top p4p list. And these top fights you are talking about, i guess you mean Barrera, Morales and Marquez?..a i cant see Scott winning a round against those guys.

Yeah and you can see hatton taking a round off Cotto, Mayweather or De La Hoya??? I hardly think so. hatton is fighting a Castillo whos past his best which was evident in his last fight. hatton is nowhere near as good a fighter as all yous english like to make him out to be. If he ever did set foot in thr ring with any of the top fighters which i doubt very much he wouldnt last the distance he would get KTFO before the 8th.

[victorhugo4222]

And im pretty sure my mate Dunky would back me up on that 1!!!

[jc]

Doesnt really matter if dunky does, he thought Ricky Burns and kevin Anderson were going to win world titles...:roll:

Facts are facts, you gotta go back to what Buchannen? until you get a fighter who comes close to ricky hatton. English hating can only get you so far, Hatton is top draw and has proved it.

Tszyu was top 5 p4p by most peoples standards when he lost to Hatton and was a big favourite going in. You assume castillo to be shot (another question when was there last a Scottish fighter in a match which is on the same world level as hatton-Castillo?!) but he is also top 15 p4p by most people. there is also only one fighter at 140 that people would rather hatton face and thats Witter, who would also be shot if hatton were to win...

[hitman_hatton1]

Scott Harrison was def on the level of Hatton he was just daft enough to stick with ****** and co and thats why he never got any top fights. Only thing hatton had over harrison was the sense to ditch ******!!!

rubbish.

harrison was losing to an old medina for gods sake.

hatton is top notch and proven it.

harrison never was. :nono

[BigEars]

And im pretty sure my mate Dunky would back me up on that 1!!!

Harrison was a good fighter , a very good fighter at his best but he does have a loss to Manuel Medina and I felt was a little lucky to get the draw with Victor Polo .

Now both of those guys are good fighters(you could say Medina still is) but I couldn't see Hatton losing to someone of their quality at his weight .

Of course Dunky will back you up Harrison is( possibly was now) his hero and Dunky would probably fancy prime Harrison over Guzman(I know this for sure) , Pacquiao , Barrera , Morales and Marquez in their primes or at least have them 50/50 .

[Club Fighter]

What's with all these "uk views" that you guys are quoting. How many people that are willing to watch him across the pond doesn't mean squat in the States and this HBO deal is a Stateside deal. Stateside . . . he's a nobody, a club fighter, a hoax, an ESPN Friday Night Fighter at best. Here his career amounts to nothing more than a trivia question: Name the bum that beat Kostya Tszyu. That's it. His competition is marginal at best and he hardly beats the B fighters. Not to mention he reminds us of one of our most loathed fighters of all-time, John Ruiz.

You Brits need to realize that not everything that glitters is gold. So what you might consider an excellent bout in the UK is merely an ordinary one in the land of the free. But i don't blame you because one adapts to and grows accustomed to what one sees. Since you're fed a constant diet of inadequate fighting, you begin to enjoy it. But we've got choices here in the States. We can watch an inadequate fighter if we choose (Gatti) or we can choose to watch an excellent fighter (Mayweather) if we wish. I find it most unfortunate that you aren't afforded that opportunity.

[China_hand_Joe]

You Brits need to realize that not everything that glitters is gold. So what you might consider an excellent bout in the UK is merely an ordinary one in the land of the free. But i don't blame you because one adapts to and grows accustomed to what one sees. Since you're fed a constant diet of inadequate fighting, you begin to enjoy it. But we've got choices here in the States. We can watch an inadequate fighter if we choose (Gatti) or we can choose to watch an excellent fighter (Mayweather) if we wish. I find it most unfortunate that you aren't afforded that opportunity.

But you will never be able to watch Calzaghe live in America. That is soul destroying for you and other yankie boxing fans, even if you refuse to admit it.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Yeah and you can see hatton taking a round off Cotto, Mayweather or De La Hoya??? I hardly think so. hatton is fighting a Castillo whos past his best which was evident in his last fight. hatton is nowhere near as good a fighter as all yous english like to make him out to be. If he ever did set foot in thr ring with any of the top fighters which i doubt very much he wouldnt last the distance he would get KTFO before the 8th.

Victor my man, never try to have a serious debate with Hatton fans. They are the worst. You mention a scottish fighter? They will come back & tell you the scot is shit, Hatton is fuckin amazing, end of story.

In fact, hatton fans are the most nasty to scottish fighters. Dont ask me why, but thats the case. I should know, cos I have been in about a million arguments with them, & they just spout the same old stuff. You see, in their minds Hatton has achieved the lot, hes a legend. & if anyone dares question Hattons achievements or motives? You get what you are seeing in this thread.

"Hatton is fantastic, harrison & the rest of you dumb jocks are shit" & great posts like that. Its par for the course with Hatton fans, so you have to question them more softly than most people, cos they are a fragile bunch who cant stand anything negative being said about their hero or they go on the attack & are childish as fuck:deal Its a reflex mechanism I believe, cos most are footy fans with limited boxing knowledge & thats how they roll.

So never talk to a Hatton fan like a normal boxing fan Victor my man, cos they are a different breed:good

[Dunky McCafferty]

Harrison was a good fighter , a very good fighter at his best but he does have a loss to Manuel Medina and I felt was a little lucky to get the draw with Victor Polo .

Now both of those guys are good fighters(you could say Medina still is) but I couldn't see Hatton losing to someone of their quality at his weight .

Of course Dunky will back you up Harrison is( possibly was now) his hero and Dunky would probably fancy prime Harrison over Guzman(I know this for sure) , Pacquiao , Barrera , Morales and Marquez in their primes or at least have them 50/50 .

Yeah, Harrison was my hero, but there was no need for you to try to make me look like some deranged imbecile with the rest of your post.

Dunky not happy:nono

[China_hand_Joe]

Yeah, Harrison was my hero, but there was no need for you to try to make me look like some deranged imbecile with the rest of your post.

Dunky not happy:nono

I can sympathise to an extent Dunky.

I am made out to be a deranged imbecile too, despite being consistantly proven right by the puglistic exploits of Joe Calzaghe. Which is somewhat satisfying.

It is time you became a Calzaghe fan Dunky and bring your enthusiasm with you. You will not regret it.

[BigEars]

Yeah, Harrison was my hero, but there was no need for you to try to make me look like some deranged imbecile with the rest of your post.

Dunky not happy:nono
My apologies , maybe this will cheer you up .

Wayne McCullough is one of my heroes yet Harrison not only accomplished more in his career but he also beat him .

Don't get me wrong , prime Harrison was a very good fighter(and very different from the one dimensional guy we saw at the end of his career) and in his prime would of had a good chance against Guzman that we have now(when was prime Guzman ???) but the other guys for me are on a different level , they are the true elite where as Harrison was A class .

I think I remember you giving Harrison a good shot at beating Pacquiao and this was after the Hussein fight , where it was evident Scott had seen better days . Now obviously that was biased but I suppose when you're talking about a fellow country and your favourite fighter than can easily happen .


Now , 10 million...........not bad going for Mr.Hatton ;)

[Dunky McCafferty]

I can sympathise to an extent Dunky.

I am made out to be a deranged imbecile too, despite being consistantly proven right by the puglistic exploits of Joe Calzaghe. Which is somewhat satisfying.

It is time you became a Calzaghe fan Dunky and bring your enthusiasm with you. You will not regret it.

Aye, but you are a 'tongue in cheek' poster Rupert, so know one really knows if you are the real deal, or taking the piss.

Thats where we differ mate, Im a mad fan of scottish fighters & everyone knows it, whereas with you no-one quite knows your motives.

Now if I thought you were sincere & we had a bond going on? I would consider your offer, as I have a soft spot for the welsh, despite the two welsh posters here JC & North who are always whingeing about scots & arse licking the english. I believe they are the exception that proves the rule though.

Anyway, thats neither here nor there. I suppose I am saying that until we know the real China hand joe is, then I have to say "I respect the offer Noel, but NO deal", like I would do if I was on the show Deal or No Deal.

I hope you understand Rupat ma man:good

[GazOC]

Yeah, Harrison was my hero, but there was no need for you to try to make me look like some deranged imbecile with the rest of your post.

Dunky not happy:nono

By the same token you shouldn't lump all 'Hatton fans' together under one description.;)

[Dunky McCafferty]

My apologies , maybe this will cheer you up .

Wayne McCullough is one of my heroes yet Harrison not only accomplished more in his career but he also beat him .

Don't get me wrong , prime Harrison was a very good fighter(and very different from the one dimensional guy we saw at the end of his career) and in his prime would of had a good chance against Guzman that we have now(when was prime Guzman ???) but the other guys for me are on a different level , they are the true elite where as Harrison was A class .

I think I remember you giving Harrison a good shot at beating Pacquiao and this was after the Hussein fight , where it was evident Scott had seen better days . Now obviously that was biased but I suppose when you're talking about a fellow country and your favourite fighter than can easily happen .


Now , 10 million...........not bad going for Mr.Hatton ;)

No worries Bigears my man, I just got upset cos I have said many times here that I would have picked Pacquiao to beat Scotty, cos pac is a fuckin monster. However though, with the rest I think Scotty could have beaten them on his night, but its an old argument now consigned to the dustbin. The only reason i brought up the Hussein fight in the past was cos of the legions of harrison haters who said he wouldnt win a round against the top boys etc... I replied that Scotty knocked down Hussein when pac couldnt, so it was unfair to write Scotty off.

But, I dont want to dwell on Scotty, cos its deflecting from my original searching questions on what Hatton does after this fight, & I want to hear the Hatton fans give me some straight answers for a change.

[BigEars]

I have to say if Hatton isn't matched with the winner of Witter v Harris I will be disappointed . Even one of the other 3 title holders wouldn't be enough for me .

Of course that is assuming Hatton wins , and with Jose Luis Castillo in his way that is by no means certain .

[Dunky McCafferty]

By the same token you shouldn't lump all 'Hatton fans' together under one description.;)

Why shouldnt I? Hatton fans are overwhelming, & I compare their behavioral patterns to a plague of locusts.

In short numbers they lie low & behave themselves, but when they all join together their behaviour changes & they destroy & devour everything in their path simply through weight of numbers.

Like whats happening in this thread.

[GazOC]

Jeez, I think you need to lie down (or take more water with it).

[China_hand_Joe]

whereas with you no-one quite knows your motives.





I genuinely rate Joe Calzaghe as the best boxer of the last decade.

I believe everyone else in the world should at least rate him in the top 3 P4P fighters in the world today, to consider themselves reasonable.

[David UK]

Scott Harrison was def on the level of Hatton he was just daft enough to stick with ****** and co and thats why he never got any top fights. Only thing hatton had over harrison was the sense to ditch ******!!!

I'm not even going to bother arguing against this rubbish

[ron u.k.]

What's with all these "uk views" that you guys are quoting. How many people that are willing to watch him across the pond doesn't mean squat in the States and this HBO deal is a Stateside deal. Stateside . . . he's a nobody, a club fighter, a hoax, an ESPN Friday Night Fighter at best. Here his career amounts to nothing more than a trivia question: Name the bum that beat Kostya Tszyu. That's it. His competition is marginal at best and he hardly beats the B fighters. Not to mention he reminds us of one of our most loathed fighters of all-time, John Ruiz.

You Brits need to realize that not everything that glitters is gold. So what you might consider an excellent bout in the UK is merely an ordinary one in the land of the free. But i don't blame you because one adapts to and grows accustomed to what one sees. Since you're fed a constant diet of inadequate fighting, you begin to enjoy it. But we've got choices here in the States. We can watch an inadequate fighter if we choose (Gatti) or we can choose to watch an excellent fighter (Mayweather) if we wish. I find it most unfortunate that you aren't afforded that opportunity.it's a pity that choice doesn't include being able to watch a half decent heavyweight.

[PowerPuncher]

The most annoying thing is how everyone now says Tszyu was shot or on the way down as if it is a fact. The only fact is that in his previous fight he destroyed Mitchell and proclaimed himself to be in peak shape for the Hatton fight. EVERYONE bar a handful of Hatton fanatics picked Tszyu to win by KO and yet as soon as Hatton won the bullshit comes out.

There was no evidence he was on the slide and he has never said anything akin to such himself. In fact he fought how he has always fought, methodical, quite flat footed, but very accurate and very focused.

Now the haters are already getting the excuse in early, they are calling Castillo shot of the back of one bad performance in his last bout at a new weight. Just like Calzaghe was shot after his fight with Bika. Well in that case Hatton is shot too, so we have two shot fighters facing each other.:roll:

If Castillo wins you will never hear the end of it and Hatton was a "fraud". If Hatton wins "Castillo was shot".
Funny because Judah had lost to Baldomir and then again in his next fight (albeit to PBF) and yet Cotto beating him is hailed as world class and incredible.

Only a year ago Castillo starched Coralles and making weight was his main problem, once settled at 140 he should be stronger.

Hatton was fantastic against Tyszu but its been all downhill since. Tyszu wasn't prime but was very good none the less.

Castillo starched Corrales 2 YEARS AGO. He hasn't done anything since, has been very innactive and honestly I had him losing his last fight against the African Canadian - who looked bad himself last time against Bailey.

So maybe Castillo is shot after been out the ring so long, being in so many wars, maybe he has 1 last huraah though

Castillo would be a good win but 2 big fights against aged but excellent fighters out of 40something fights isn't enough.

Hatton needs to face an elite fighter in their prime - Cotto, Mayweather or even Mosley/Witter

[Strike]

What's with all these "uk views" that you guys are quoting. How many people that are willing to watch him across the pond doesn't mean squat in the States and this HBO deal is a Stateside deal. Stateside . . . he's a nobody, a club fighter, a hoax, an ESPN Friday Night Fighter at best. Here his career amounts to nothing more than a trivia question: Name the bum that beat Kostya Tszyu. That's it. His competition is marginal at best and he hardly beats the B fighters. Not to mention he reminds us of one of our most loathed fighters of all-time, John Ruiz.

You Brits need to realize that not everything that glitters is gold. So what you might consider an excellent bout in the UK is merely an ordinary one in the land of the free. But i don't blame you because one adapts to and grows accustomed to what one sees. Since you're fed a constant diet of inadequate fighting, you begin to enjoy it. But we've got choices here in the States. We can watch an inadequate fighter if we choose (Gatti) or we can choose to watch an excellent fighter (Mayweather) if we wish. I find it most unfortunate that you aren't afforded that opportunity.

:-((

I will come back and read this if I have trouble sleeping later tonight.

[Club Fighter]

it's a pity that choice doesn't include being able to watch a half decent heavyweight.

Well said, sir, take a bow. My sentiments exactly. We can watch them, just not in the ring but on the gridiron. :cool:

[BigEars]

Well said, sir, take a bow. My sentiments exactly. We can watch them, just not in the ring but on the gridiron. :cool:

Stop blaming football for the lack of a good American heavyweight .
Yes men can earn more playing football than being a boxer but how many of those football players ever boxed in the first case and even had to come to a decision about whether they wanted to box or play football . I suspect very few .

[Club Fighter]

Stop blaming football for the lack of a good American heavyweight .
Yes men can earn more playing football than being a boxer but how many of those football players ever boxed in the first case and even had to come to a decision about whether they wanted to box or play football . I suspect very few .

The reason why they never boxed in the first place is because of football. That's the point. The inflated salaries of football players and the # of players needed for football make it way more appetizing to the prospective athlete. It seems to be much more viable than boxing, so the choice is quite easy. Well, anyway, what's the UK's excuse?

[BigEars]

The reason why they never boxed in the first place is because of football. That's the point. The inflated salaries of football players and the # of players needed for football make it way more appetizing to the prospective athlete. It seems to be much more viable than boxing, so the choice is quite easy. Well, anyway, what's the UK's excuse?

Ya but people don't take up football when they're 21/22 , they do it when they're kids . Which in the main is the same as boxing , almost all proffesional athletes started doing their sports as kids . Now don't tell me little Johnny whateverthefuckhisnameis at 8 years of age decided he wants to play football because he can earn more money in it . You could say because there aren't any gyms nearby or something like that , but that's a point that affects all boxers not just heavyweights .

As for the UK's excuse , don't ask me mate I'm not from there :p .

[ron u.k.]

The reason why they never boxed in the first place is because of football. That's the point. The inflated salaries of football players and the # of players needed for football make it way more appetizing to the prospective athlete. It seems to be much more viable than boxing, so the choice is quite easy. Well, anyway, what's the UK's excuse?well we've got to keep up the great "horizontal" tradition!

[Rock0052]

It's £10,000,000 ($20,000,000), not $10,000,000


I'm glad you mentioned that- at the time, I thought it was 10 million US dollars, which honestly would've been a steal for HBO for a 3 fight package considering the draw Hatton is.