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MrStayman
10-09-2007, 02:22 PM
I know he hasn't always been the best of speakers, but I'm afraid the man seems a little bit punch drunk. :verysad

The guy talks with too many non sequiturs. Also, he says things like "those are great, good punches", "he's bleeding from the nose, so he definitely got hit in the mouth," etc.
jedijojo
10-09-2007, 02:23 PM
I know he hasn't always been the best of speakers, but I'm afraid the man seems a little bit punch drunk. :verysad

The guy talks with too many non sequiturs. Also, he says things like "those are great, good punches", "he's bleeding from the nose, so he definitely got hit in the mouth," etc.

That just means he rarely knows what to say... You want to hear somebody who is punch drunk? listen to Joe Frazier, now you'll see what punch drunk means.
Dorfmeister
10-09-2007, 02:26 PM
Not at all, one thing I gat to give to Lewis is that he is highly polite and has some kinda charm in his short speech style, anybody will show signs of what you've mentioned at one point but Lewis not really...
MrStayman
10-09-2007, 02:27 PM
That just means he rarely knows what to say... You want to hear somebody who is punch drunk? listen to Joe Frazier, now you'll see what punch drunk means.Well, punch drunk is spectral, meaning you can be a little bit punch drunk or very punch drunk. I'm just saying he's on the mild end of punch drunk. He's not like Gatti, Frazier, or Frazier.
Motor City Sam
10-09-2007, 02:32 PM
I hope not, and I'd be surprised if he was. For a top flight heavy who faced some serious punchers, Lennox wasn't in many wars where he took a lot of hard head shots. The Rahman and McCall losses were more of the one punch variety rather than an accumulation of heavy blows. He did take some hard hits over the years, but he doesn't sound punch drunk to me.
Bigcat
10-09-2007, 02:35 PM
Lennox is quite legible.. he is no Bowe, Holyfield or Terry Norris..

Lewis never had the same kind of wars that Evander or Bowe had..

He is quite unscathed.. all fighters , especially Jamaican laid back ex champs , talk with a lazy touch to thier diction... he is not at all punch drunk..
MrStayman
10-09-2007, 02:37 PM
Alright guys, I guess my fears are not well founded :happy

Thanks for the responses.
achillesthegreat
10-09-2007, 02:40 PM
The guy never has been a good talker. Don't know why HBO employed him. I'm sure they could have got a good talker like Tarver OR even better someone who can explain the science and talk like X.

Lewis was a great boxer but he is proof that knowing how to fight and telling someone how to fight are two different things. He knows a SHIT load about boxing but he doesn't know how to convert his thoughts into words.
Bigcat
10-09-2007, 02:42 PM
The guy never has been a good talker. Don't know why HBO employed him. I'm sure they could have got a good talker like Tarver OR even better someone who can explain the science and talk like X.

Lewis was a great boxer but he is proof that knowing how to fight and telling someone how to fight are two different things. He knows a SHIT load about boxing but he doesn't know how to convert his thoughts into words.

I think that is more the case......
El Bombasto
10-09-2007, 06:55 PM
doubt it, i can't remember him taking too much punishment (or even that much at all) during his career
MagnificentMatt
10-09-2007, 06:57 PM
Its not really punch drunk for him i dont think.. More like hes not a very good commentator and can't make a good comment quick enough..
ChrisPontius
10-09-2007, 07:12 PM
doubt it, i can't remember him taking too much punishment (or even that much at all) during his career

He took quite some punishment in his fights with Mercer and Klitschko, but you're right. Outside of those fights, he came out relatively clean.
standing 8countboxing
10-09-2007, 07:14 PM
I don't think he's punchdrunk, he's just inexperienced as a broadcaster. Every now and then I think he's getting better, then he takes a step or 34 back.
josak
10-09-2007, 07:17 PM
Lewis knows how to speak, he just gets nervous in front of the camera.
Stickandmove
10-10-2007, 04:39 AM
Lennox is a good talker, but compared to pros like Jim Lampley he's bound to sound a bit wooden.

Do you think you could do a better job than Lennox?
Stickandmove
10-10-2007, 04:44 AM
No way is Lennox punch drunk - he's the same as he always was.

Muhammed Ali, Frazier, Bowe..................these are guys who showed a marked depreciation in speech - punch drunk all the way. But not Lennox.
Shake
10-10-2007, 05:00 AM
Well, punch drunk is spectral, meaning you can be a little bit punch drunk or very punch drunk. I'm just saying he's on the mild end of punch drunk. He's not like Gatti, Frazier, or Frazier.

I think you're a bit punchy, mate.
ThePlugInBabies
10-10-2007, 05:46 AM
not really, but i do laugh at his changes in accent. he goes from north american to that stupid fake jamaican accent he puts on, then he'll go to east london black guy mode.
RDJ
10-10-2007, 06:45 AM
This is punch drunk...

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RDJ
10-10-2007, 06:47 AM
To be honest Bowe sounds a lot worse than in some other videos. Perhaps he was actually drunk.
Cruiser1
10-10-2007, 07:19 AM
Lennox never had the greatest vocabulary to begin with. He's far from punch-drunk. I always wondered how Merchant would feel when he heard guys like Lennox and Manny Steward making grammar mistakes.

I will say this though...there's something pleasant in Lennox's style. He really comes across as being a nice guy so I like having him on the HBO team.
bill poster
10-10-2007, 07:51 AM
Lennox is quite legible.. he is no Bowe, Holyfield or Terry Norris..

Lewis never had the same kind of wars that Evander or Bowe had..

He is quite unscathed.. all fighters , especially Jamaican laid back ex champs , talk with a lazy touch to thier diction... he is not at all punch drunk..

Laid back Jamaican? Bit of a generalisation but i agree, he is laid back!
And he wasnt brought up in Jamaica.
El Bombasto
10-10-2007, 09:14 AM
This is punch drunk...

nzUWIoK9kIs

bowe is punch drunk and crazy
Nawfal
10-10-2007, 11:50 AM
roy was the master, they should bring him back. 100 %when he retires
hacim419
10-10-2007, 01:26 PM
He's not punchy he's just a bad commentator, never has anything relevant to say, other than "definitely."
RDJ
10-10-2007, 01:32 PM
He's not punchy he's just a bad commentator, never has anything relevant to say, other than "definitely."

"It's ovaaaa" :think
cpnasty
10-10-2007, 01:33 PM
No, not at all
Cruiser1
10-10-2007, 01:44 PM
I think he has brain damage from the vitaly fight he doesnt remember promising a rematch to vitaly. I honestly believe he knew he would lose to vitaly in a rematch and didnt want to lose his legacy. He would be fighting to this day and calling himself fine wine if not for vitaly.

Yeah and Vitali enjoyed a tremendous post-Lewis career himself. When you have the type of accolades of a Lennox Lewis you can retire whenever u want. Lewis never appeared to be the type to care that much about the sport anyway so I'm willing to bet he's the one who made peace with it while Vitali still has that empty feeling inside. He's the one who let a once in a lifetime opportunity slip away that night and he's gotta live with it and so do u.
mrbassie
10-10-2007, 02:15 PM
I don't think he's punch drunk, I think he's just very nervous speaking in public. I think I'd be the same to be honest, stuttering occasionally, changing minds about what to say mid-sentence. He's an introverted person, the shy retiring type, everybody knows this. It's not really a good career for him, he's not suited to it the way a Tyson or a Jens would be/is
Cruiser1
10-11-2007, 12:10 PM
lewis and his fans found out hes not like fine wine and retired. And yes vitaly must feel bad because lewis pussied out of a rematch and denied us the pleasure of seeing him go out on his back. That was a real cunts act to do he should of just had the rematch. I would of had alot more respect for him now.

I'm sure Lennox is just besides himself that Anton from ESB doesn't have much respect for him anymore. You must really think the world revolves around u. Who's to say that had Lewis gave him a rematch Vitali wouldn't have pulled out of it 5 different times with injuries? Nobody cares about what u say and if u check the poll on this board (bias or not) most people think Lewis would have went on to knock Vitali out and I agree cuz it was Vitali holding onto Lewis at the end of the 6th. Lewis was huffing and puffing but he was smiling as well and he had already gotten through the toughest part of the fight (the 2nd round). IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OVAH!