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tliang1000
10-09-2007, 05:11 PM
Maybe I am overthinking it but there are a lot of matches recently involving Oscar that looks staged.

1) Oscar vs Bhop: I know it hurts to get hit in the liver but damn, it was not that hard... And why was he pounding the ground for 30 secs str8 instead of trying to get up?

2) Oscar vs Mayroga: Mayroga is Iron Chin who got lots of heart. He usually won't quit unless he is KO out cold or reallly busted up.... He was complete aware and refused to get up?

3) Floyd Mayweather vs Oscar: Looks like as if Floyd is purposely winning a round and giving away a round until the 8th and he just took off.

4) Pac vs Barrera: That was a pathetic showing of Pac. I never seen that boy passive. And the score card is bull bc I had Barrera winning at least 4 rounds... Looks like Pac is carrying Barrera or Barrera trying to get the public to demand a rematch....

Maybe I am overthinking it. Any other potential staged matches?

Thread Stealer
10-09-2007, 05:21 PM
The only one that seemed somewhat suspicious was Hopkins-De La Hoya, and even in that one, I find it highly more likely that Oscar simply quit b/c the bigger guy was taking over and getting to him than a pre-arranged outcome. Much has been said about Richardson yelling "body shot", but he says that quite a bit during fights anyway.

Punisher33
10-09-2007, 05:21 PM
Oscar/B-hop always made me wonder, not too long after that Hopkins was one of the first to sign with golden boy. Even if it was fixed theres no way in hell Oscar could ever beat Hopkins, and he knew it either way.

Thread Stealer
10-09-2007, 05:22 PM
2) Oscar vs Mayroga: Mayroga is Iron Chin who got lots of heart. He usually won't quit unless he is KO out cold or reallly busted up.... He was complete aware and refused to get up?


Mayorga got up and was stopped on his feet.


4) Pac vs Barrera: That was a pathetic showing of Pac. I never seen that boy passive. And the score card is bull bc I had Barrera winning at least 4 rounds... Looks like Pac is carrying Barrera or Barrera trying to get the public to demand a rematch....


Why would the public demand a 3rd fight?

Pac already won twice by wide margins, and the rematch was a let-down.

TRUEBELIEVER 66
10-09-2007, 05:26 PM
Ali-Liston 2 the phantom punch...I have watched it a thousand times and it still reeks to this day, 42 years later..:-(

TBooze
10-09-2007, 05:28 PM
Everett/Escarlera

Whitaker/RamirezI

And of course Lulu Perez/Willie Pep saw Pep banned for the rest of his career from fighting in New York.

Words
10-09-2007, 05:30 PM
Gavin Rees versus Lovermore N'Dou seemed fixed to me. Anyone else?

ChampionsForever
10-09-2007, 05:35 PM
Maybe I am overthinking it but there are a lot of matches recently involving Oscar that looks staged.

1) Oscar vs Bhop: I know it hurts to get hit in the liver but damn, it was not that hard... And why was he pounding the ground for 30 secs str8 instead of trying to get up?

2) Oscar vs Mayroga: Mayroga is Iron Chin who got lots of heart. He usually won't quit unless he is KO out cold or reallly busted up.... He was complete aware and refused to get up?

3) Floyd Mayweather vs Oscar: Looks like as if Floyd is purposely winning a round and giving away a round until the 8th and he just took off.

4) Pac vs Barrera: That was a pathetic showing of Pac. I never seen that boy passive. And the score card is bull bc I had Barrera winning at least 4 rounds... Looks like Pac is carrying Barrera or Barrera trying to get the public to demand a rematch....

Maybe I am overthinking it. Any other potential staged matches?

Oscar -Mayorga?? are you fucking kidding me?? that left hook he knocked him down with was a show stopper, he was lucky to get up from that, how was that fixed??:lol::lol: same with PBF-DLH these fights were far from suspicious.

SteveO
10-09-2007, 05:58 PM
Ali-Liston 2 the phantom punch...I have watched it a thousand times and it still reeks to this day, 42 years later..:-(

I wouldn't say FIXED is the word. But I would say that Liston realized he couldn't win and the fight was out of him. He didn't want to be there. And he gave up.

Hopkins-DLH is another dive example I think. That seemed too WWE for me :D

DobyZhee
10-09-2007, 06:06 PM
Pac JMM I. If there ever was a fix, it was that one. 115-110 for two score cards and then a 'scoring error' by a judge for the draw?

Zakman
10-09-2007, 06:22 PM
Golota/Ruiz. Golota knocked Ruiz down twice, got another point deduction when Ruiz pulled some illegal move, and landed more punches - and yet, somehow, he "lost" the decision! :patsch

Saltzy
10-09-2007, 06:56 PM
and landed more punches - and yet, somehow, he "lost" the decision! :patsch


Say a fighter lands 15 more punches in 5 rounds that he won and the other fighter lands just 5 more in 7 rounds that he won.


More rounds won = Win


1 big round doesn't mean shit

jlmayo825
10-09-2007, 06:58 PM
Gavin Rees versus Lovermore N'Dou seemed fixed to me. Anyone else?



Gavin Rees never fought Lovemore Ndou.

Lennox Lewis-Evander Holyfield I should of never been a draw and Steve Forbes-Demetrius Hopkins was also a judging robbery.

standing 8countboxing
10-09-2007, 07:07 PM
Surprised nobody has mentioned that Tito had already had Mayorga for breakfast before he fought Oscar. But, regardless, that hook was beautiful and is knocking anyone down, including Mayorga. Pac-Mab 2 was in no way staged, and no way the public has an outcry for a rematch. Floyd vs. Oscar was to me another case of Oscar fading down the stretch, with the exception of Vargas, he's done that quite a bit.

TheGrimReaper
10-09-2007, 07:16 PM
peter mccline

DobyZhee
10-09-2007, 07:59 PM
McNeeley Tyson....HELLO!!

Probably the lowest point in boxing history.

standing 8
10-09-2007, 08:08 PM
I have a friend who still to this day swears that the Foreman / Moorer fight was fixed.

brooklyn1550
10-09-2007, 11:43 PM
In terms of the judging...

Everett/Escalera
Whitaker/Ramirez 1
Foreman/Briggs

Thread Stealer
10-09-2007, 11:45 PM
McNeeley Tyson....HELLO!!

Probably the lowest point in boxing history.

That wasn't fixed. McNeeley tried hard but was terribly overmatched. I would've preferred that his corner let him go out on his shield rather than stop it for him.

Tyson-Seldon, now that was pathetic! But I doubt that was fixed. Do you have to pay Bruce Seldon to lose to Mike Tyson? He quit before he started.

Warfist
10-10-2007, 12:04 AM
Just about anything that involved Sven Ottke.

H .
10-10-2007, 12:10 AM
Foreman/Briggs :-(

theunderdog
10-10-2007, 12:30 AM
i think dlh-bhop looked really wierd. dlh is a bad actor. the ounding the canvass drama didn't sell to me. i've been hit in the midsection before and the last thing i'll do is pound the freaking canvass.

Farmboxer
10-10-2007, 12:34 AM
Vlad/Brewstrer 1, no doubt about that one.

stuistylee
10-10-2007, 12:39 AM
it seems quite a few posters think that theres a fair bit of corruption in the game , and at a high level...gee thats summin new

chimba
10-10-2007, 12:43 AM
Shoot lest we forget RJJ in the olympics

Clearly Cool
10-10-2007, 02:49 AM
i think dlh-bhop looked really wierd. dlh is a bad actor. the ounding the canvass drama didn't sell to me. i've been hit in the midsection before and the last thing i'll do is pound the freaking canvass.

the thing about that fight inst just the ending. barely any clean hard punches land at all. its like they are sparring.

KhanB
10-10-2007, 03:08 AM
Hopkins v De La Hoya

Like people said, it seems like sparring. The Hoya v Sturm robbery shouldve been a clue that there was too much $$$ involved on making you believe that lil Oscar belonged at MW. IMO Bernard pretented to be the Xcutioner that night and half assed it until Goldie hit the deck.

theunderdog
10-10-2007, 03:09 AM
the thing about that fight inst just the ending. barely any clean hard punches land at all. its like they are sparring.

true but the ending was something that the wwe would come up with.

BoppaZoo
10-10-2007, 03:15 AM
David Diaz vs Erik Morales

or was that just me since Morales was retiring they thought why give him the decision when Diaz is still in his Prime.

Erik schooled Diaz and was robbed badly because of boxing politics and money.

Saltzy
10-10-2007, 03:16 AM
Vlad/Brewstrer 1, no doubt about that one.

Would say the worst post ever, but you have definatly said far far worst. :patsch

EL MATADOR13
10-10-2007, 05:59 AM
Not to be a Holyfield hater but some of these last holyfield fights i been suspicious about. especially the Zuri Lawrence one but hopefully they werent fixed and he beats sultan :happy

EL MATADOR13
10-10-2007, 06:47 AM
i meant jeremy bates hard not to confuse these 2 bums