View Full Version : I think margarito TKOs Williams late
Nawfal
06-26-2007, 06:00 PM
or beats him up badly down the stretch
i think initially the athleticism and reach will give him problems, but he will wear him down, late KO, or a beating.
Relentless
06-26-2007, 06:02 PM
same way i see it.
BobDigi5060
06-26-2007, 06:03 PM
I see Margarito winning like this too. Honestly, sparring is sparring. Williams words about the sparring session are about as credible as bigfoot. No matter how good Williams has looked it boils down to he hasn't fought anybody who can be considered on Margarito's level and he has gotten hit way too often leading into this fight.
Hard to pick a winner but I like Margarito.
DanePugilist
06-26-2007, 06:04 PM
I am betting at a early KO for Margo.
Margo KO 4. Williams will be caught by surprise.
Pimp C
06-26-2007, 06:09 PM
I see Margarito winning like this too. Honestly, sparring is sparring. Williams words about the sparring session are about as credible as bigfoot. No matter how good Williams has looked it boils down to he hasn't fought anybody who can be considered on Margarito's level and he has gotten hit way too often leading into this fight.
Hard to pick a winner but I like Margarito.
Try telling C Money that.:patsch
brooklyn1550
06-26-2007, 06:15 PM
I've recently changed my pick to Margarito by decision
Chiko_Tech
06-26-2007, 06:34 PM
I see the same here Williams starting strong like almost all the oponets that had fought Margo do, and when Margo motor begins to get hot he will presure Williams so much that he will end up in the cambas.
El Bombasto
06-26-2007, 06:36 PM
or beats him up badly down the stretch
i think initially the athleticism and reach will give him problems, but he will wear him down, late KO, or a beating.
sounds reasonable to me
Relentless
06-26-2007, 06:39 PM
Try telling C Money that.:patsch
i thought you hated margarito?
Amsterdam
06-26-2007, 06:45 PM
I've recently changed my pick to Margarito by decision
I watched a good bit of Williams lately and I am in no way impressed. I'll take your Margarito by decision as my prediction as well, but it may be close and "controversial".
Williams is not an elite fighter, he's a 2nd tier and has too many holes to deal with a high workrate... AND he lacks the hitting power to dent Margarito's chin(which is overrated also, I just had to add).
Margarito will likely defeat Williams close, then get slaughtered in a one sided display from Cotto.
Executioner
06-26-2007, 07:01 PM
Williams is going to meet his boligical father.
Pimp C
06-26-2007, 07:15 PM
i thought you hated margarito?
I do but C Money thinks sparring actually means something like in the case of Spaddy-PBF. If Williams got the best of Margo sparring it doesn't mean shit. We'll see if he can duplicate it on July 14th.
I see Margarito winning like this too. Honestly, sparring is sparring. Williams words about the sparring session are about as credible as bigfoot. No matter how good Williams has looked it boils down to he hasn't fought anybody who can be considered on Margarito's level and he has gotten hit way too often leading into this fight.
Hard to pick a winner but I like Margarito.
Just because he hasn't fought anyone on Margs level doesn't mean he isn't capable of stepping it up. Every fighter has to do it some time. He has looked very good against some good opponents like Mitchell and Maythsse. He has a very good chin from what I have seen, GREAT stamina and I have a lot of trouble seeing him getting worn down. Paul Williams by UD
psychopath
06-26-2007, 07:26 PM
Experience will be a major factor here.
Williams takes the early rounds because he young and energetic but then Margarito will punish him from the miiddle rounds onward when Williams starts to slow down. That is if nobody from the two gets hit solidly early. :yep
A close fight to call but I'm with Margo. :good
sdsfinest22
06-26-2007, 07:31 PM
good fight....i htink williams by 6th rd koor beats him up badly down the stretch
i think initially the athleticism and reach will give him problems, but he will wear him down, late KO, or a beating.
Sonny Carson
06-26-2007, 07:38 PM
I think people are really underrating Williams. He's fast, has a pretty good jab, good defense, and has above average power. His defense is n't great but Margarito's is worse. I think the only way Tony wins this fight is by stoppage if that doesn't happen Williams UD's or late TKO's him.
PBF P4P #1
06-26-2007, 07:49 PM
I was picking Margarito all the way, until I heard Freddie Roach speak and now I'm not so sure....Margo hasn't fought all the best out there but Williams seems more green to me
Experience will be a major factor here.
Williams takes the early rounds because he young and energetic but then Margarito will punish him from the miiddle rounds onward when Williams starts to slow down. That is if nobody from the two gets hit solidly early. :yep
A close fight to call but I'm with Margo. :good
Where do you guys get the idea that Williams will slow down? He had a long fight with Walter Maythse (spelling) who fought at a hard pace, and Williams wasn't tired in the slightest. He has great stamina it is probably his biggest assett. Marg has big trouble vs southpaws. Against a southpaw who is taller then him with bigger reach he will have trouble getting inside. Marg doesn't possess good head movement, and ill find it very hard to close that distance. Williams UD
El Bombasto
06-26-2007, 08:07 PM
I was picking Margarito all the way, until I heard Freddie Roach speak and now I'm not so sure....Margo hasn't fought all the best out there but Williams seems more green to me
I don't think we know that much about Williams other than the fact that he's very tall and seems to have decent power for WW. I can't get over the fact that Margo, who's a tough fight for just about anyone, will be the first time Williams is in with a guy who's not there to lay down. I've seen Margo in enough tough fights to know how he'll handle the pressure, but how will Williams react in that situation?
PBF P4P #1
06-26-2007, 08:08 PM
I don't think we know that much about Williams other than the fact that he's very tall and seems to have decent power for WW. I can't get over the fact that Margo, who's a tough fight for just about anyone, will be the first time Williams is in with a guy who's not there to lay down. I've seen Margo in enough tough fights to know how he'll handle the pressure, but how will Williams react in that situation?
Thats what scares me on Williams....Has he ever taken a punch like he will? If he can walk through it though, we could have a force at WW and eventually MW in the future.
Sonny Carson
06-26-2007, 08:12 PM
Thats what scares me on Williams....Has he ever taken a punch like he will? If he can walk through it though, we could have a force at WW and eventually MW in the future.
Matthysse had 25 knockouts in 26 fights and Williams made him look like his power was overrated.
I don't think we know that much about Williams other than the fact that he's very tall and seems to have decent power for WW. I can't get over the fact that Margo, who's a tough fight for just about anyone, will be the first time Williams is in with a guy who's not there to lay down. I've seen Margo in enough tough fights to know how he'll handle the pressure, but how will Williams react in that situation?
This is what I keep saying though. He fought against Maythsse who ws 25 and 0, almost all his wins by KO. Had just signed up with Golden Boy. Was a big prospect, and Williams absolutley shut him out, and punished him. Maythsse hit Williams clean on a few occasions with BIG shots and Williams didn't seem fazed at all. Maythsse tried to bring the fight hard to Williams and it didn't bother him at all. He kept up a great work rate for the entire fight. This guy was not in there to lay down. He was undefeated, and a tough fighter, who is now due to fight Cintron
Matthysse had 25 knockouts in 26 fights and Williams made him look like his power was overrated.
Exactly. And that was a guy who on his first HBO appearance KO'd the guy in the first round. He obviously had power.
Kegsy
06-26-2007, 08:19 PM
Margarito wins this IMO.
Margarito wins this IMO.
Aren;t you the fool who will be sporting an avatar of my choice for two weeks.... Enough said.
Kegsy
06-26-2007, 10:05 PM
Aren;t you the fool who will be sporting an avatar of my choice for two weeks.... Enough said.
Yes i cant wait to give u the avatar i have prepared.:yep
fatdrunkenslob
06-26-2007, 10:13 PM
This is what I keep saying though. He fought against Maythsse who ws 25 and 0, almost all his wins by KO. Had just signed up with Golden Boy. Was a big prospect, and Williams absolutley shut him out, and punished him. Maythsse hit Williams clean on a few occasions with BIG shots and Williams didn't seem fazed at all. Maythsse tried to bring the fight hard to Williams and it didn't bother him at all. He kept up a great work rate for the entire fight. This guy was not in there to lay down. He was undefeated, and a tough fighter, who is now due to fight Cintron
Matthysse was basically a stationary heavy bag after he gassed in four rounds and yet it took light-hitting Williams 10 rounds to stop him on his feet. Margarito will walk through his little arm punches and land non-stop on Williams until he crumbles under the pressure I suspect.
Moreover, if Cintron blows Matthysse out early we'll know for sure that Matthysee was a hype job who padded his record with tomato cans. Take for example another hyped fighter in Joel Julio who lost badly to Quintana. Quintana received a lot of accolades for defeating Julio until the red flags went up when Joel went life and death against Cosme Rivera(guy that Zab Judah sparked in three rounds) this was right before the Cotto fight. Cotto then proceeded to destroy Quintana and proved that all that praise Quintana received was in fact premature and unwarranted at that point in his career.
I think the same scenario is going to play out for Williams come July 14th. I mean seriously, what are the odds that Matthysse, a guy that blocks punches with his face will shock Cintron(the hardest puncher at welterweight) and Williams beat a veteran like Margarito on the same night to prove he's super skilled and not another hyped fighter who fed on no hopers his whole career?
I believe it's much more likely that Cintron TKOs tomato can eater Matthysse then Margarito stops Williams after weathering the early storm.
psychopath
06-26-2007, 10:15 PM
Where do you guys get the idea that Williams will slow down? He had a long fight with Walter Maythse (spelling) who fought at a hard pace, and Williams wasn't tired in the slightest. He has great stamina it is probably his biggest assett. Marg has big trouble vs southpaws. Against a southpaw who is taller then him with bigger reach he will have trouble getting inside. Marg doesn't possess good head movement, and ill find it very hard to close that distance. Williams UD
Hey do you have common sense? Have you seen any fighter who gets faster and more energetic as the rounds goes on?
Staying power! That's what I'm trying to point out. Marg has been battered and clobbered in his past fights but he survived and managed. At this point can you justify that Williams have the same staying power? The fact that Williams is very much hittable I'm sure Marg can also sneak in some of his power punches and then we will find out if Williams doesn't really slow down.
The guy is a very good prospect at this stage and he still has to prove it.
Hey do you have common sense? Have you seen any fighter who gets faster and more energetic as the rounds goes on?
Staying power! That's what I'm trying to point out. Marg has been battered and clobbered in his past fights but he survived and managed. At this point can you justify that Williams have the same staying power? The fact that Williams is very much hittable I'm sure Marg can also sneak in some of his power punches and then we will find out if Williams doesn't really slow down.
The guy is a very good prospect at this stage and he still has to prove it.
Common sense. I just pointed out to you an example of him where he was in a very fast paced fight and he didn't tire what so ever. Can't get much more common sense then that can you.
Matthysse was basically a stationary heavy bag after he gassed in four rounds and yet it took light-hitting Williams 10 rounds to stop him on his feet. Margarito will walk through his little arm punches and land non-stop on Williams until he crumbles under the pressure I suspect.
Moreover, if Cintron blows Matthysse out early we'll know for sure that Matthysee was a hype job who padded his record with tomato cans. Take for example another hyped fighter in Joel Julio who lost badly to Quintana. Quintana received a lot of accolades for defeating Julio until the red flags went up when Joel went life and death against Cosme Rivera(guy that Zab Judah sparked in three rounds) this was right before the Cotto fight. Cotto then proceeded to destroy Quintana and proved that all that praise Quintana received was in fact premature and unwarranted at that point in his career.
I think the same scenario is going to play out for Williams come July 14th. I mean seriously, what are the odds that Matthysse, a guy that blocks punches with his face will shock Cintron(the hardest puncher at welterweight) and Williams beat a veteran like Margarito on the same night to prove he's super skilled and not another hyped fighter who fed on no hopers his whole career?
I believe it's much more likely that Cintron TKOs tomato can eater Matthysse then Margarito stops Williams after weathering the early storm.
I agree that Williams isn't a massive puncher, but Maythsse kept coming and the fight was fast. If Cintron stuggled with Estrade, what makes you think he will blow Mathysse away, who appears to have a solid chin. I think the fight with Cintron will be a war. I am picking Cintron but it will be a very interesting fight. What you are ignoring is the fact that Marg has struggled with southpaws in the past, and that Williams has a very good chin, and has long reach which will make it hard for Marg to get his offense off. Williams is a volume puncher by nature and will be hard to out point, as he lands so many punches.
psychopath
06-26-2007, 10:25 PM
Common sense. I just pointed out to you an example of him where he was in a very fast paced fight and he didn't tire what so ever. Can't get much more common sense then that can you.
:lol: Damn Bro you don't justify what's going to happen in the future.
Yeah he'd been in a fast pace fight but did the guy fought exactly how Margarito will fight? Did Williams got hit with punches just like what's going to happen in his fight with Marg? Are you 100% sure that Williams is coming in in the condition that he came in on that fight? How would you justify that?
. . . damn common sense. :-(
:lol: Damn Bro you don't justify what's going to happen in the future.
Yeah he'd been in a fast pace fight but did the guy fought exactly how Margarito will fight? Did Williams got hit with punches just like what's going to happen in his fight with Marg? Are you 100% sure that Williams is coming in in the condition that he came in on that fight? How would you justify that?
. . . damn common sense. :-(
That is a stupid post if I ever saw one. Of course the guy didn't fight 100% like Marg. Has Marg fought anyone who is 100% like Williams. Don't be so ignorant. The way you predict match ups is by analysing their prior fights and experience. You claimed he would tire, and I pointed out he was in a fast paced fight with a big puncher, where he was getting hit and throwing A LOT of punches back and didn't tire. As if he wouldn't come into the fight in condition when it is the biggest fight of his career. Think before you make your next post please.
fatdrunkenslob
06-26-2007, 10:37 PM
I agree that Williams isn't a massive puncher, but Maythsse kept coming and the fight was fast. If Cintron stuggled with Estrade, what makes you think he will blow Mathysse away, who appears to have a solid chin. I think the fight with Cintron will be a war. I am picking Cintron but it will be a very interesting fight. What you are ignoring is the fact that Marg has struggled with southpaws in the past, and that Williams has a very good chin, and has long reach which will make it hard for Marg to get his offense off. Williams is a volume puncher by nature and will be hard to out point, as he lands so many punches.
I did not say for a fact that Cintron will blow Matthysse away but if he does then it will prove that Matthysse has a seriously padded record made up of mostly tomato cans yet is known as Williams' biggest win to date. This obviously would reflect poorly on Williams unless he astounds us with a magificient performance based solely on his skills as there is little else about him at this point.
Williams' greatest advantage will be the fact that he is a southpaw I think. His chin we'll find out about after he faces Margarito and his height advantage is pretty much moot as he has never used it to his advantage. He has consistently chosen to fight inside against shorter opponents every time so I doubt he will change his strategy for his next fight which also happens to be his most important.
Williams does have a high work rate against people that can't hurt him, don't throw enough punches, have stamina issues or all of the above. Margarito does not happen to fall into any of those categories and will certainly test Williams' chin more than once in the course of the fight. In fact, I would hazard a guess that Williams' defence is one of the worst Margarito will have faced in a while so chances are Margo will be landing all night. The big question is can Williams take the punishment and maintain his punch output or will he he fold under the sustained pressure and experience Margo brings to every fight?
psychopath
06-26-2007, 10:40 PM
That is a stupid post if I ever saw one. Of course the guy didn't fight 100% like Marg. Has Marg fought anyone who is 100% like Williams. Don't be so ignorant. The way you predict match ups is by analysing their prior fights and experience. You claimed he would tire, and I pointed out he was in a fast paced fight with a big puncher, where he was getting hit and throwing A LOT of punches back and didn't tire. As if he wouldn't come into the fight in condition when it is the biggest fight of his career. Think before you make your next post please.
Nah nah nah you think not me. :D That's simple logic . . . I'm predicting he would tire in the middle rounds because I'm expecting the other guy to bombared him with body punches . . . is there something wrong with that?
And here you are with you're assuring talk that he won't tire out based on his previous fight. :-(
Which is more logical and which is a stupid post? :lol:
I did not say for a fact that Cintron will blow Matthysse away but if he does then it will prove that Matthysse has a seriously padded record made up of mostly tomato cans yet is known as Williams' biggest win to date. This obviously would reflect poorly on Williams unless he astounds us with a magificient performance based solely on his skills as there is little else about him at this point.
Williams' greatest advantage will be the fact that he is a southpaw I think. His chin we'll find out about after he faces Margarito and his height advantage is pretty much moot as he has never used it to his advantage. He has consistently chosen to fight inside against shorter opponents every time so I doubt he will change his strategy for his next fight which also happens to be his most important.
Williams does have a high work rate against people that can't hurt him, don't throw enough punches, have stamina issues or all of the above. Margarito does not happen to fall into any of those categories and will certainly test Williams' chin more than once in the course of the fight. In fact, I would hazard a guess that Williams' defence is one of the worst Margarito will have faced in a while so chances are Margo will be landing all night. The big question is can Williams take the punishment and maintain his punch output or will he he fold under the sustained pressure and experience Margo brings to every fight?
I agree with you that IF Cintron blows out Walter then it will detract from Williams certainly. Regardless though, Wlater must have some power, and the fact that he landed flush on Williams and didn't bother him to me says that if Marg hits him he isn't going to all of a sudden crumble. Still I agree with you in that Williams hasn't had to take the sustained punishment from a fighter of Margaritos calibre, which could be a deciding factor, if Marg is to get on top of him. This is still a big unknown, although from what I have seen, and judging by Margs prior difficulties vs Southpaws I don't think it will be that big a factor, and I believe that the longer straight punches from Williams will become a headache for Marg. I am still sticking by Paul Williams UD, although I can see where you are coming from. Everytime I watch Marg vs a soutpaw he just paws that jab and doesn't seem to be explosive, and against a volume punching guy who works off the jab I think I will be his downfall.
Nah nah nah you think not me. :D That's simple logic . . . I'm predicting he would tire in the middle rounds because I'm expecting the other guy to bombared him with body punches . . . is there something wrong with that?
And here you are with you're assuring talk that he won't tire out based on his previous fight. :-(
Which is more logical and which is a stupid post? :lol:
Yours is more stupid as you are not basing your prediction on anything. Look at drunkenslobs post. That is a good analysis of how the fight might play out. I don't agree with the particular analysis, but it has been broken down by judging prior fights and trying to see how both fighters will carry their abilities into this particular bout. Your prediction is just throwing your opinion out there and claiming it to be correct. Throwing emoticons and saying that it is common sense without any arguement to back it up is flat out ridiculous.
Lance_Uppercut
06-26-2007, 11:04 PM
I agree with you that IF Cintron blows out Walter then it will detract from Williams certainly. Regardless though, Wlater must have some power, and the fact that he landed flush on Williams and didn't bother him to me says that if Marg hits him he isn't going to all of a sudden crumble. Still I agree with you in that Williams hasn't had to take the sustained punishment from a fighter of Margaritos calibre, which could be a deciding factor, if Marg is to get on top of him. This is still a big unknown, although from what I have seen, and judging by Margs prior difficulties vs Southpaws I don't think it will be that big a factor, and I believe that the longer straight punches from Williams will become a headache for Marg. I am still sticking by Paul Williams UD, although I can see where you are coming from. Everytime I watch Marg vs a soutpaw he just paws that jab and doesn't seem to be explosive, and against a volume punching guy who works off the jab I think I will be his downfall.
What PRIOR diffuculties are you talking about? The Santos fight? :huh
How many Marg vs. Southpaw fights have you seen? Which southpaws BTW? :deal
I see what you are saying about Matthysse, but you need to take into consideration he's looked very good at times and powerful, BECAUSE he is fighting guy ON OR BELOW his level. He is yet to step up, and the closest he did was vs. Williams, who himself is more of a contender then anything. And he got whupped.
Cintron's win over Teddy Reid trumps ANYTHING WIlliams or Mattysse have done so far.
psychopath
06-26-2007, 11:06 PM
Yours is more stupid as you are not basing your prediction on anything. Look at drunkenslobs post. That is a good analysis of how the fight might play out. I don't agree with the particular analysis, but it has been broken down by judging prior fights and trying to see how both fighters will carry their abilities into this particular bout. Your prediction is just throwing your opinion out there and claiming it to be correct. Throwing emoticons and saying that it is common sense without any arguement to back it up is flat out ridiculous.
Prediction is prediction and you do that before the actual thing happen. And nobody can claim that their prediction is correct until you see the results of the real thing . . . is that clear enough for you?
Not basing on anything? :lol: Margarito is a pressure fighter who throws a lot of leather, head punches and body punches alike. Isn't that enough basis for thinking he's gonna slow down the other guy? :D Point is . . . even if they exchange bombs I'm more confident that Margarito would take it better than Willams. As simple as that. What justification or back up you still need?
My post is more stupid? Got to be open minded and not just one track minded dude.
skipdog
06-26-2007, 11:13 PM
I will be there watching this one. Seems like a good undercard as well. Cheap tickets even. GVood times. My call is Williams on points, split decision, by racking up the early rounds.
teetop
06-26-2007, 11:13 PM
Yeah, alot of people keep giving the edge to paul because of the bad night tony had against clottey. But who's to say paul is better than clottey, and since when has williams been in with a welter as big as himself. One who is super tough and hits hard in volume. Can paul\
williams who leaves his chin out to dry too much hang with this badass
bato. Methinks no he can't, and he gets stopped in 7.
What PRIOR diffuculties are you talking about? The Santos fight? :huh
How many Marg vs. Southpaw fights have you seen? Which southpaws BTW? :deal
I see what you are saying about Matthysse, but you need to take into consideration he's looked very good at times and powerful, BECAUSE he is fighting guy ON OR BELOW his level. He is yet to step up, and the closest he did was vs. Williams, who himself is more of a contender then anything. And he got whupped.
Cintron's win over Teddy Reid trumps ANYTHING WIlliams or Mattysse have done so far.
I was talking about the Santos fight yes. He just pawed the jab, couldnt move or look explosive. Shouldn't have used plural you are right. I did take into consideration that he hasn't fought anyone on Margs level I said that. But at the same time he has looked good so far, and every fighter at on time in their career has to step up like never before. This is Williams time. The reason I think he can do it is because he has looked convincing in his past victories. Cintrons win does trump anything these guys have done. But WHERE WAS THAT AN ISSUE. I never said anywhere that Williams is more proven then Cintron. I think style wise Williams will be a much tougher fight then Cintron that is all.
Prediction is prediction and you do that before the actual thing happen. And nobody can claim that their prediction is correct until you see the results of the real thing . . . is that clear enough for you?
Not basing on anything? :lol: Margarito is a pressure fighter who throws a lot of leather, head punches and body punches alike. Isn't that enough basis for thinking he's gonna slow down the other guy? :D Point is . . . even if they exchange bombs I'm more confident that Margarito would take it better than Willams. As simple as that. What justification or back up you still need?
My post is more stupid? Got to be open minded and not just one track minded dude.
My problem with your post is that you were claiming that my prediction is unfounded and that yours was, when in reality like you said it is all speculation. You were being a hypocrit in your earlier posts whether you realise it or not. You said that Williams would tire, but didn't explain how he would tire, and I pointed out to you that he has good stamina in his previous fights. Perhaps if you had tried to elaborate earlier it would have saved an entire arguement. Fair enough if you think that because Marg is a pressure fighter, if he lands enough body punches it will make him tire, but you only added that in the past couple posts. As I said, just throwing your opinion out there without any explanation doesn't make it correct no matter how many emoticons you would like to use.
teetop
06-26-2007, 11:23 PM
Exactly. And that was a guy who on his first HBO appearance KO'd the guy in the first round. He obviously had power.
When did matthysse fight on HBO? And who did he KO in 1?
When did matthysse fight on HBO? And who did he KO in 1?
Juan Alderte (spelling). When I watched the Walter fight they said his first apearance on HBO boxing after dark he was on the undercard of some fight and KO'd the guy in the ifrst round. The guy didn't have the worst record. He was no world beater, but a first round KO shows he must have some power yes.
Amsterdam
06-26-2007, 11:34 PM
Juan Alderte (spelling). When I watched the Walter fight they said his first apearance on HBO boxing after dark he was on the undercard of some fight and KO'd the guy in the ifrst round. The guy didn't have the worst record. He was no world beater, but a first round KO shows he must have some power yes.
And Cintron has a shitty chin.
psychopath
06-26-2007, 11:35 PM
My problem with your post is that you were claiming that my prediction is unfounded and that yours was, when in reality like you said it is all speculation. You were being a hypocrit in your earlier posts whether you realise it or not. You said that Williams would tire, but didn't explain how he would tire, and I pointed out to you that he has good stamina in his previous fights. Perhaps if you had tried to elaborate earlier it would have saved an entire arguement. Fair enough if you think that because Marg is a pressure fighter, if he lands enough body punches it will make him tire, but you only added that in the past couple posts. As I said, just throwing your opinion out there without any explanation doesn't make it correct no matter how many emoticons you would like to use.
Nah I'n not trying to say your prediction is unfounded. :D It was you who ask where I got the idea that William is gonna tire out remember? So I answered back.
Don't be like a noob. Of course Williams will not tire out jogging inside the ring. Punches makes fighter tire out . . . all fighters a matter of fact. :yep
Alo2006
06-26-2007, 11:36 PM
This is my upset of the year. Williams UD
Sonny Carson
06-27-2007, 11:54 AM
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Williams' greatest advantage will be the fact that he is a southpaw I think. His chin we'll find out about after he faces Margarito and his height advantage is pretty much moot as he has never used it to his advantage. He has consistently chosen to fight inside against shorter opponents every time so I doubt he will change his strategy for his next fight which also happens to be his most important.
Williams does have a high work rate against people that can't hurt him, don't throw enough punches, have stamina issues or all of the above. Margarito does not happen to fall into any of those categories and will certainly test Williams' chin more than once in the course of the fight. In fact, I would hazard a guess that Williams' defence is one of the worst Margarito will have faced in a while so chances are Margo will be landing all night. The big question is can Williams take the punishment and maintain his punch output or will he he fold under the sustained pressure and experience Margo brings to every fight?
He used his height well against Matthysse.
Danny Ocean
06-28-2007, 05:17 AM
I was picking Margarito all the way, until I heard Freddie Roach speak and now I'm not so sure....Margo hasn't fought all the best out there but Williams seems more green to me
what did roach say
He used his height well against Matthysse.
He did to an extent. He kept him on the end of those long jabs for the majority of the night.
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