Amateur boxing championship starting 17 October and will be closed at 3 November

[Artani]

I try to bring you all the teams but i found some of them with coperation with members Marcus, Toney , Luigi , NBT , Oggi 3 , Darien , Mendoza, Kolya , Alcaldemp , Robson , Super_Fly_ Sam , Odo , Jay Cuban , Albaneze , Hrak , Tobkhan , Bummy Davis , SavonSolis , Mr Kool , avk 47 , teekay 00 , sakura , Grebfan 9 , and i will thnaks all fo you who gives idea for more then two months. Next week starting amateur boxing championship and we together will see what will happen. All of you guys once again thanks.

Russia :

57 kg – Alexei Tischenko (world champion )
75 kg - Matvey Korobov (europian and world champion)
81 kg – Artur Baterbiev ( europian champion)
+91 kg – Islam Timurziev ose Denis Sargayeu ( The both very talented but i dont yet, who will be in the world championship )

USA :

48 kg - Luiz Yanez
51 kg - Rau'shee ******
54 kg - Gary Russel Jr
57 kg - Raynell Williams
60 kg - Saddam Ali
64 kg - Javier Molina
69 kg - Demetrius Andrade
75 kg - Shawn Estrada
81 kg - Christopher Downs
91 kg - Deontay Wilder
+91 kg - Michael Hunter

Germany :

51 Kg - Ronny Beblik
54 Kg - Rustam Rachimow
57 Kg - Marcel Herfurth
60 Kg - Artur Schmidt
64 Kg - Martin Dreßen
69 Kg - Jack Culcay-Keth
75 Kg - Konstantin Buga
81 Kg - Gottlieb Weiß
91 Kg - Alexander Powernow
+91Kg - Stefan Köber

Italia :

48 kg – Alfonso Pinto
51 kg – Vicenco Picardi
54 kg – Vittorio Parrinello
60 kg – Domenico Valentino
75 kg – Ivano Del Monte
91 kg – Clemeno Russo
+91 kg – Roberto Camarrello

Bullgaria :


51 kg – Salim Salimov
54 kg – Detolin Delakliev
57 kg – Alexey Shaidulin
64 kg – Boris Georgiev
69 kg – Dimitar Stihanov
75 kg – Spas Genov
81 kg – Marian Momehev
91 kg – Tarvel Pulev
+91 kg – Kubrat Pulev

Australia :

54 kg - Luke Boyd
75 kg - Jarrod Fletcher
+91 kg – Brad Pitt

Finland :

64 kg - Jussi Koivula
75 kg - Niko Jokinen
+91 kg - Robert Helenius


Ireland :

75 kg - Darren Sautherland
+91 kg – Cathal Mc Monagle

Sweeden :

75 kg - Naim Terbunja

Maqedonia ;

81 kg – Nasi Hani

Hungary :

75 kg - Istvan Szili

Austria :

75 kg – Oliver Obradovic

Lithuania :

75 kg – Vladimir Miljevskij or Donatas Sandorovas

Kazagistan :

75 kg - Arteyev


We dont have nothing about England fighters , i hope somebody will put something about them and i dident out Cubans fighters because definitly will not travell in the USA.

[Kaino]

Australia :

54 kg - Luke Boyd
75 kg - Jarrod Fletcher
+91 kg – Brad Pitt








:think

[avk47]

Russia's team isn't announced yet. Will probably be announced at the last minute.

UKRAINE:
48 кг – Georgiy Chigaev (Lviv)
51 кг – Vitaliy Volkov (Nikolaev)
54 кг – Maksim Tretyak (Vinnicya)
57 кг – Vasiliy Lomachenko (Belgorod-Dnestrovskiy)
60 кг - Aleksandr Klyuchko (Nikolayev)
64 кг – Andrei Lukyanchuk (Vinnicya)
69 кг - Aleksandr Streletskiy (Dnepropetrovsk)
75 кг – Sergei Derevyanchenko (Nikolayev)
81 кг – Ismail Sillakh (Mariopol')
+91 кг – Vyacheslav Glazkov (Lugansk)

For some reason Denis Poyatsika seems to not have been selected in 91- kg.

[Toney]

:think Yeah, did you not see Brad Pitt fighting in the Fightclub -movie? Anyone would be crazy not to send him to Chicago. I think that he is a clear favourite there!

[Mendoza]

I really hope the media covers this event. This World Amateur Boxing Championship tournament promises to be the biggest in terms of participation.

Some of boxing’s best and brightest professional prospects to be will all be fighting each other. While the Olympic tournament will always have more prestige attached to it, I believe the Boxing World Amateur Tournament is better because it’s all boxing, and the field is much deeper.

Good luck to the contestants, and may the judging be fair in square.

[Darien]

I'm not 100% sure about this but Hungary's team will look something like this:

48 kg: Pál Bedák
51 kg: Gergő Szalai
54 kg: Norbert Kalucza
57 kg: Sándor Rácz
61 kg: Miklós Varga
64 kg: Gyula Káté
69 kg: Norbert Harcsa
75 kg: István Szili
81 kg: Imre Szellő
91 kg: József Darmos
+91 kg: Csaba Kurtucz

[unitas]

I try to bring you all the teams but i found some of them with coperation with members Marcus, Toney , Luigi , NBT , Oggi 3 , Darien , Mendoza, Kolya , Alcaldemp , Robson , Super_Fly_ Sam , Odo , Jay Cuban , Albaneze , Hrak , Tobkhan , Bummy Davis , SavonSolis , Mr Kool , avk 47 , teekay 00 , sakura , Grebfan 9 , and i will thnaks all fo you who gives idea for more then two months. Next week starting amateur boxing championship and we together will see what will happen. All of you guys once again thanks.

Russia :

57 kg – Alexei Tischenko (world champion )
75 kg - Matvey Korobov (europian and world champion)
81 kg – Artur Baterbiev ( europian champion)
+91 kg – Islam Timurziev ose Denis Sargayeu ( The both very talented but i dont yet, who will be in the world championship )

USA :

48 kg - Luiz Yanez
51 kg - Rau'shee ******
54 kg - Gary Russel Jr
57 kg - Raynell Williams
60 kg - Saddam Ali
64 kg - Javier Molina
69 kg - Demetrius Andrade
75 kg - Shawn Estrada
81 kg - Christopher Downs
91 kg - Deontay Wilder
+91 kg - Michael Hunter

Germany :

51 Kg - Ronny Beblik
54 Kg - Rustam Rachimow
57 Kg - Marcel Herfurth
60 Kg - Artur Schmidt
64 Kg - Martin Dreßen
69 Kg - Jack Culcay-Keth
75 Kg - Konstantin Buga
81 Kg - Gottlieb Weiß
91 Kg - Alexander Powernow
+91Kg - Stefan Köber

Italia :

48 kg – Alfonso Pinto
51 kg – Vicenco Picardi
54 kg – Vittorio Parrinello
60 kg – Domenico Valentino
75 kg – Ivano Del Monte
91 kg – Clemeno Russo
+91 kg – Roberto Camarrello

Bullgaria :


51 kg – Salim Salimov
54 kg – Detolin Delakliev
57 kg – Alexey Shaidulin
64 kg – Boris Georgiev
69 kg – Dimitar Stihanov
75 kg – Spas Genov
81 kg – Marian Momehev
91 kg – Tarvel Pulev
+91 kg – Kubrat Pulev

Australia :

54 kg - Luke Boyd
75 kg - Jarrod Fletcher
+91 kg – Brad Pitt

Finland :

64 kg - Jussi Koivula
75 kg - Niko Jokinen
+91 kg - Robert Helenius


Ireland :

75 kg - Darren Sautherland
+91 kg – Cathal Mc Monagle

Sweeden :

75 kg - Naim Terbunja

Maqedonia ;

81 kg – Nasi Hani

Hungary :

75 kg - Istvan Szili

Austria :

75 kg – Oliver Obradovic

Lithuania :

75 kg – Vladimir Miljevskij or Donatas Sandorovas

Kazagistan :

75 kg - Arteyev


We dont have nothing about England fighters , i hope somebody will put something about them and i dident out Cubans fighters because definitly will not travell in the USA.










germanys team looks promising. well, not really the germans, more like the russians and kazakstanis:lol: .
from the germans ronny beblik, marcel herfurth, martin dressen and stefan kober (little brother of stefan) i dont really expect a medal.

but the "germans" on the team look promising: powernov and rahimov can with a bit of luck go all the way to the finals.

hard hitting gottlieb weiss can maybe win a bronze. so can military world champ arthur schmidt, although he is struggeling with his form a bit.
but both have the talent to medal imo.

[ogii3]

As i wrote, the second edition of Bulgarian team features just 6 fighters:

51 Salim Salimov
54 Detelin Dalakliev
57 Alexey Shaidulin
60 Ognian Golev
64 Boris Georgiev
+91 Kubrat Pulev

The team right now is in Germany for common sparings with Germans, Netherlands, France and maybe England, but not sure for the Brits

[Luigi1985]

Great work, Artani! :thumbsup

Btw, the Italian Alfonso Pinto, don´t go to Chicago (because his back injury wasn´t healed that well)...

[Artani]

Albania team will go with two fighters :

69 kg - Jetmir Kuqi
91 kg - Nelson Hysa

but i dont think that will arrive something in the USA.

[Artani]

I just heard that Austria will sent one promising fighter at 81 kg :

81 kg - Gëzim Tahiri very promising. His origin is albanians.

[Artani]

I'm not 100% sure about this but Hungary's team will look something like this:

48 kg: Pál Bedák
51 kg: Gergő Szalai
54 kg: Norbert Kalucza
57 kg: Sándor Rácz
61 kg: Miklós Varga
64 kg: Gyula Káté
69 kg: Norbert Harcsa
75 kg: István Szili
81 kg: Imre Szellő
91 kg: József Darmos
+91 kg: Csaba Kurtucz

Good work Darien :good

[Artani]

Great work, Artani! :thumbsup

Btw, the Italian Alfonso Pinto, don´t go to Chicago (because his back injury wasn´t healed that well)...

Thanks Luigi :good
see you mate .

[Luigi1985]

Albania team will go with two fighters :

69 kg - Jetmir Kuqi
91 kg - Nelson Hysa

but i dont think that will arrive something in the USA.


Do you know something about the HW Hysa? How good is he?

[Artani]

germanys team looks promising. well, not really the germans, more like the russians and kazakstanis:lol: .
from the germans ronny beblik, marcel herfurth, martin dressen and stefan kober (little brother of stefan) i dont really expect a medal.

but the "germans" on the team look promising: powernov and rahimov can with a bit of luck go all the way to the finals.

hard hitting gottlieb weiss can maybe win a bronze. so can military world champ arthur schmidt, although he is struggeling with his form a bit.
but both have the talent to medal imo.

Thanks Unitas for your prediction about nationality of Germany. Sorry i dident put you in the front of page but i forget, see you and once again thanks :good

[Artani]

Do you know something about the HW Hysa? How good is he?

I dont know Luigi but i heard that will be very dificult for him. He is not very promising. I was today in the Kosovo boxing federation and i talk with secretary the legend Mehmet Bogujevci. He was second in the world championship at 1978 in the Beligrad at 63 kg and talk for many thinks. The Kosovo still in negociations for independient and we cant be in the world championship.

About heavyweight i will tell you one who fighting in the USA. His name is Bedarin Toma , he is very promising fighter but he is in the USA and coudent to fights in the USA because he is in azil politics and looking to get USA citizeneship. Im sure that he will arrive to quarterfinal or more. He is born in Albania and wins this year golden gloves of New Jersy Diamonds who is very high in the USA. Its not big like US golden gloves but its importent tournament.

[Luigi1985]

I dont know Luigi but i heard that will be very dificult for him. He is not very promising. I was today in the Kosovo boxing federation and i talk with secretary the legend Mehmet Bogujevci. He was second in the world championship at 1978 in the Beligrad at 63 kg and talk for many thinks. The Kosovo still in negociations for independient and we cant be in the world championship.

About heavyweight i will tell you one who fighting in the USA. His name is Bedarin Toma , he is very promising fighter but he is in the USA and coudent to fights in the USA because he is in azil politics and looking to get USA citizeneship. Im sure that he will arrive to quarterfinal or more. He is born in Albania and wins this year golden gloves of New Jersy Diamonds who is very high in the USA. Its not big like US golden gloves but its importent tournament.


Thank you very much for this information!

[Artani]

Bedarin Toma

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[Super_Fly_Sam]

Australia

51kg - Jimmy Ceapa (Oceania Champ)

57kg - not sure prob either Paul Fleming (Oceania Silver) or Luke Jackson ( Commonwealth Games Bronze)

64kg - prob Todd Kidd

81kg - Mathew Corbett, im pretty sure i read somewhere he was in (i could be wrong though)




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[Toney]

64kg - prob Todd Kidd
Nice fellow... I was once at real wild afterparty with him... When he was fighting here in Finland. :yep

[Super_Fly_Sam]

Nice fellow... I was once at real wild afterparty with him... When he was fighting here in Finland. :yep

yeah.. thats cool... he wasnt drinkin though was he??

[Toney]

yeah.. thats cool... he wasnt drinkin though was he?? :lol: Sure he was... He lost his first fight in Tammer tournament, so after that he had few days time to party. Thats the good thing in tournaments. :D He is no great fighter, so he will also have time to party in Chicago!

[Sakura]

Helenius is out of MM-tournament. His injured his thumb and hand most be operate...

[Artani]

Helenius is out of MM-tournament. His injured his thumb and hand most be operate...

Any body good who can replace him .

[Sakura]

Unfortunately, no...

[avk47]

The Russian team will be finalized on the 14th of October. There will be match-sparrings between the top contenders near the city Chekhov, and the results of these sparrings will decide who will actually make the team.

[Toney]

Shit!

According to boxing.fi European Championships silver medallist Robert Helenius (+91 kg) has a hand injury. He won´t be able to travel to Chicago. Helenius has injured his left hand in a sparring session in Sauerlands training camp.

[Toney]

I am dissapointed, as well. According to you; This bloke was planning on turning pro after the Olympics. You also stated that he would develope power equal to that of Wladimir Klitschko's, only with superior footwork. I wanted to see if these lofty aspirations where at all possible.
Helenius has already signed a pro-contract with maybe the best promotor in Europe: Sauerland Event.

Sauerland wanted to sign Helenius right after the European championships, so that the other big promotors don´t get to sign him. Sauerland has already helped Helenius a lot. Helenius has been often in Sauerlands training camps. He also injured his hand there.

[Darien]

I'm not 100% sure about this but Hungary's team will look something like this:

54 kg: Norbert Kalucza

I was wrong:
54kg Dávid Oltványi

[Mendoza]

Helenius is out of MM-tournament. His injured his thumb and hand most be operate...

Damn! I really wanted to see what the big guy could do.

[avk47]

The Russian team has been announced:
48kg: David Airapetyan (He has finally beaten the experienced Sergei Kazakov).
51kg: Georgiy Balakshin
54kg: Sergei Vodopyanov (19 years old, I am really excited about this talent).
57kg: Albert Selimov
60kg: Alexei Tischenko
64kg: Gennadiy Kovalev (Looks like he has pushed out the veteran Maletin, which is a shame. Maletin will probably retire.)
69kg: Andrei Balanov.
75kg: Matvei Korobov
81kg: Artur Beterbiev (has definitively taken Makarenko's place. Makarenko said if he doesn't make olympics he will retire...)
91kg: Rakhim Chakhiev (Chakhiev beat Romanchuk in the deciding sparring match as well as the nationals. Romanchuk may now go pro)
91+: Islam Timurziev (Seems to have beaten Sergeev, who upset him in the finals of the nationals.)

[Toney]

The Russian team has been announced:
48kg: David Airapetyan (He has finally beaten the experienced Sergei Kazakov).
51kg: Georgiy Balakshin
54kg: Sergei Vodopyanov (19 years old, I am really excited about this talent).
57kg: Albert Selimov
60kg: Alexei Tischenko
64kg: Gennadiy Kovalev (Looks like he has pushed out the veteran Maletin, which is a shame. Maletin will probably retire.)
69kg: Andrei Balanov.
75kg: Matvei Korobov
81kg: Artur Beterbiev (has definitively taken Makarenko's place. Makarenko said if he doesn't make olympics he will retire...)
91kg: Rakhim Chakhiev (Chakhiev beat Romanchuk in the deciding sparring match as well as the nationals. Romanchuk may now go pro)
91+: Islam Timurziev (Seems to have beaten Sergeev, who upset him in the finals of the nationals.)

Thanks of the info! :good

[unitas]

tischenko p4p number one.

[NBT]

AIBA has redesigned their webpage and it will have live scoring during the fights for those interested. :good
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[Kolya]

I'm going to be really interested in seeing how the US team members fare if they draw or end up fighting any of the Russian team. It will be a big test and kind of a litmus test to see where the US team needs to be at and how they need to improve over the next year.

[Mendoza]

I'm going to be really interested in seeing how the US team members fare if they draw or end up fighting any of the Russian team. It will be a big test and kind of a litmus test to see where the US team needs to be at and how they need to improve over the next year.

Many nations will be in the torunament. I don't think we are going to see many USA vs Russian matches, unless the USA fighters make it to the quarters or semi's. Outside of an early draw, there won't be many USA vs Russian matches. Maybe we will see one or two in total.

[Toney]

All aboard the Sadam "Chemical" Ali express. :yep
I hope that he will face a kid from America. That should be interesting!

[Toney]

He is representing the U.S. at 57kg.
Oh, man! :nut So, USA hired Saddam to their team? Who is next Osama or Adolf?

[Artani]

Oh, man! :nut So, USA hired Saddam to their team? Who is next Osama or Adolf?

Leavet religion and racizem here. Most of fighters of USA and Russia are with diferent religion.

[Artani]

Bosnia and Hercegovina will send two boxers :

60 kg - Adnan Hadžihajdić
69kg - Velibor Vidić

just heard from my friend who is from Banja LLuka but living now in the Sarajevo.

[Darien]

My previous list wasn't entirely correct, it's Oltványi in 54kg not Kalucza. So here's the official list:

48 kg: Pál Bedák
51 kg: Gergő Szalai
54 kg: Dávid Oltványi
57 kg: Sándor Rácz
60 kg: Miklós Varga
64 kg: Gyula Káté
69 kg: Norbert Harcsa
75 kg: István Szili
81 kg: Imre Szellő
91 kg: József Darmos
+91 kg: Csaba Kurtucz

[Artani]

My previous list wasn't entirely correct, it's Oltványi in 54kg not Kalucza. So here's the official list:

48 kg: Pál Bedák
51 kg: Gergő Szalai
54 kg: Dávid Oltványi
57 kg: Sándor Rácz
60 kg: Miklós Varga
64 kg: Gyula Káté
69 kg: Norbert Harcsa
75 kg: István Szili
81 kg: Imre Szellő
91 kg: József Darmos
+91 kg: Csaba Kurtucz

Good work Darien :good

[Darien]

Good work Darien :good
Thanx Artani!

[Artani]

Schedule :

Tournament Draw: October 23rd
Competition: October 23rd to November 3rd
Tuesday, 10/23 - 2:00pm-10:00pm
Wednesday, 10/24 – 11:00am-10:00pm
Thursday, 10/25 – 11:00am-10:00pm
Friday, 10/26 – 11:00am-10:00pm
Saturday, 10/27 – 11:00am-10:00pm
Sunday, 10/28 – 11:00am-10:00pm
Monday, 10/29 – Rest Day
Tuesday, 10/30 – 2:00-10:00pm (Round of 16)
Wednesday, 10/31 – 2:00-10:00pm (Round of 16)
Thursday, 11/1 – two sessions: 2:00-6:00pm & 7:00-10:00pm (Quarter-finals)
Friday, 11/2 - two sessions: 2:00-6:00pm & 7:00-10:00pm (Semi-finals)
Saturday, 11/3 - 2:00-6:00pm (Finals)

[NBT]

Teams arrived yesterday in Chicago and paraded on some street.
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And one with the Albanian team in front for Artani:
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[jaycuban]

Were Is The Cuban Flag ?

[NBT]

In Havanna, Cuba isn't participating.

[Super_Fly_Sam]

Teams arrived yesterday in Chicago and paraded on some street.
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And one with the Albanian team in front for Artani:
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Tournament draws are today.


Got any pics of the Australians?

[jaycuban]

In Havanna, Cuba isn't participating.


i know men, totally sucks bro

[Alcaldemb]

I am surprised Russia sent Timurziev. He hasn't seemed the same since 2005. He gassed in the Russian National championship and in the World Cup in Baku. I know in both fights he was winning until he ran out of steam, but it seems as if his stamina has taken a hit since 2005. If not for his stamina he would be the most dominant super heavy since Povetkin.

[avk47]

I am surprised Russia sent Timurziev. He hasn't seemed the same since 2005. He gassed in the Russian National championship and in the World Cup in Baku. I know in both fights he was winning until he ran out of steam, but it seems as if his stamina has taken a hit since 2005. If not for his stamina he would be the most dominant super heavy since Povetkin.

Russia doesn't really have anyone else but Timurziev in that weight. The guy who came second, Sergeev is a typical amateur heavyweight who doesn't stand out at all. I saw him box against a low level Uzbek in a test match before selection, and he barely scraped through.

[Alcaldemb]

Russia doesn't really have anyone else but Timurziev in that weight. The guy who came second, Sergeev is a typical amateur heavyweight who doesn't stand out at all. I saw him box against a low level Uzbek in a test match before selection, and he barely scraped through.

Well hopefully Timurziev is recovered enough that his stamina has returned. Aside from, as far as I can tell, being dominated by Povetkin he has never really been decisively beaten.

[Toney]

The lottery has been done. I really hate that we get no information about the lottery resulst... All I know is the opponents of the Finnish boxers...

[Toney]

WoW! Now all the Draw sheets can be found in:

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[NBT]

First results are in. Bad news for the Finns, their team is already 50% decimated Jussi Koivula lost against some Mongolian guy 2-22 or something. Rustam Rachimow (2nd 2005, lost to Rigondeaux) won his bout and has to fight Kazakh Mirzhan Rakhimzhanov next. Maybe of interest for our Abanian nuthugger Artani, 69kg Jetmir Kuci has to fight Jack Culcy-Keth. Nelson Hysa has to fight Roberto Cammarelle, seems like an early goodbye too. :yep

[Mendoza]

Teams arrived yesterday in Chicago and paraded on some street.
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And one with the Albanian team in front for Artani:
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Tournament draws are today.

This is great stuff. I hope the boxing writers out there give the world amateur championships some press.

[NBT]

1st day Results:
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Upset I think:
- 2004 Olympic Gold medalist Manus Boonmunjong of Thailand lost to Masatsuga Kawachi of Japan 9-14 on points.
- Ali Hallab (FRA) beat Detelin Dalakliev (BUL) 31-21

[Super_Fly_Sam]

this is the most complete list i could find for Australian team you fullaz probly dont care anymore though lol

Light Flyweight (48kg) : Steve Sutherland
Fly Weight (51kg) : Jimmy Ceapa
Bantamweight (54kg) : Luke Boyd
Featherweight (57kg) : Paul Flemming
Lightweight (60kg) : William Tomlinson
Light Welterweight (64kg) : Todd Kidd
Welterweight (69kg) : Gerard O'Mahony
Middleweight (75kg) : not full sure Jarrod Fletcher i think
Light Heavyweight (81kg) : Mattew Corbett
HeavyWeight (91kg) : Bradley Pitt
Super Heavyweight (+91kg) : Daniel Beahan

[NBT]

According to the draw Australia has no 75 kg fighter at the WCs.

[Mendoza]

this is the most complete list i could find for Australian team you fullaz probly dont care anymore though lol

Light Flyweight (48kg) : Steve Sutherland
Fly Weight (51kg) : Jimmy Ceapa
Bantamweight (54kg) : Luke Boyd
Featherweight (57kg) : Paul Flemming
Lightweight (60kg) : William Tomlinson
Light Welterweight (64kg) : Todd Kidd
Welterweight (69kg) : Gerard O'Mahony
Middleweight (75kg) : not full sure Jarrod Fletcher i think
Light Heavyweight (81kg) : Mattew Corbett
HeavyWeight (91kg) : Bradley Pitt
Super Heavyweight (+91kg) : Daniel Beahan

Question! Will Brad Pitt's looks help him with any of the female judges?

[Super_Fly_Sam]

According to the draw Australia has no 75 kg fighter at the WCs.

yeah i noticed that...

maybe we dnt have a fighter at 75kg but if we do it would be Fletcher

[Super_Fly_Sam]

Question! Will Brad Pitt's looks help him with any of the female judges?

:lol: wrong guy dude lol

[Artani]

Thanks a lot NBT for picture :good

[Artani]

any television for the worlds?

I heard that only Sport 1 from Russia will show live ?
Talk with avk , he knows better .

[NBT]

Some more pics from the parade
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Good news for Artani, Albanian "future world champion" Naim Terbunja managed not to get knocked out in his bout. But he still was eliminated in the first round by Armenian Andranik Hakobyan.
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[Toney]

Swedish Naim Terbunja lost his first bout to Armanian Andranik Hakobyan on points 17-19. Terbunja had an early lead, but lost it in round 3. 75 kg:s Finnish guy Niko Jokinen continues to the second fights. He got an WO over the Spanish kid, who failed the medicals.

[Artani]

Very bad for one prospect like Naim Terbunja. Im talking like journalist. I wait more from him and was in contact always with him , he is very diciplined and was prepare a lot for this championiship, but this happens. I would say him to not stay any more in the amateur, he must go now in profesional. He arrive in the quarter final in the last amateur world championship in the Mianyang 2005.

[NBT]

2nd day 57 kg, 75 kg, 91 kg and 91+ kg in action

57 kg
Russian EC Albert Selimov and Alexei Shaidulin reached the next round. Stephen Smith (3rd EC 2006) lost to Marcel Herfurth. herfurth has to fight Selimov next, which is probalby the end of the road for him. Khedafi Djelkhir lost (maybe with a bit of home judging?) to American Raynell Williams.
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75 kg
Kazakh Olympic welterweight gold medalist Bakhtijar Artayev and defending WC and EC Matvei Korobov won their bouts with stoppage wins.
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91 kg
EC 2006 3rd Alexander Povernov won his bout and has to fight next against Krzysztof Zimnoch of Poland, who eliminated American Deontay Wilder in his first round fight. Clemente Russo of Italy won against England's Daniel Price. 2004 Olympic silver medalist Viktar Zuyev of Belarus lost against Vitalijus Subacius of Lithuania. Brad Pitt didn't get any breaks for his looks and is out too. :yep
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91+ kg
American Michael Hunter won against some very fat Mexican. Roberto Cammarelle, as expected, won against Alabanian Nelson Hysa. Kubrat Pulev of Bulgaria and Dvid Price of England reached the next round. Hungary's Csaba Kurtusz is out.
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[Mendoza]

THANKS NBT! And by the way great pictures.

[Alcaldemb]

You're the MAN NBT, thanks for the up dates. By the way how old is Roberto now? I have to think he is getting too old to turn pro, which is a shame.

[Mendoza]

You're the MAN NBT, thanks for the up dates. By the way how old is Roberto now? I have to think he is getting too old to turn pro, which is a shame.

I think Roberto Cammarelle is around 29 years of age. I have seen him before. Cammarelle has very good size, speed, and skills. He gave Povetkin very tough fights before the 2004 Olympics. If Roberto has a weakness, I think his toughness and stamina are average.


Though he flashes big time talent, Cammarelle is an under achiever. I still think he'd make a fine pro if he wanted to and would do about as well as Laun Krasniqui...maybe a bit better because Cammarelle some real KO power in his hook.


Here's a photo of Roberto:
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[NBT]

Cammarelle was born on July 30th, 1980 so he is 27 years old. I guess he will stick around at least until the Olympics, he'll be 28 than. Pretty old to turn pro but not too old, if he wants to do it. But many career amateurs are pretty comfortable in their position and have no desire to turn pro, not everyone is made for the pro business and I can't blame them. Cammarelle has skills, no doubt, but I don't actually think of him as an underachiever. I seem him as 2nd or 3rd place material because there are usually some guys around that are better than him like Povetkin, Solis, Timurziev etc.

[Kolya]

So why is it when an American wins it's home judging? The judges are AIBA officials from all over the world. Raynell Williams is an outstanding fighter and just happened to beat the bejesus out of his opponent. Shawn Estrada RSCO'd his opponent and Gary Russel won as well. But let me guess, since they're Americans, it's all home town judging, right?

[Ivo]

Great coverage, NBT. Thanks!

[NBT]

3rd day was 48kg, 51 kg , 60 kg, 69 kg and 81 kg

48 kg
There were only 5 preliminary fights, Pal Bedak (Hungary), David Ayrapetyan (Russia) and defending WC Zhou Shiming (China) reached the next round with comfortable point win. Very weird draw btw 4 of the big favourites have to eliminate each other in the 2nd and 3rd round. Bedak has to fight Ayrapetyan and the winner has to take on the winner of Zhakypov and Shiming... Looks like it's made to grant some people an easy qualification for 2008... :yep
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51 kg
saw the first round clash between French Jerome Thomas (WC 2001, 2nd WC 2003, 3rd 2002 Olympics, 2nd 2004 Olympics) and Georgi Balakshin (Russia). They already met a few times in the past decade, for the first time in 1997 at the final of the Junior European Championships which Balakshin won, 2001 when Thomas won the world title Balakshin came in 3rd. At the EC 2002 Balakshin won and Thomas was 3rd. Tough draw for an opening match and the Russian won 25-11 on points. Too bad for Thomas because he is always a candidate for medals.
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60 kg
Nothing too exciting here, Saddam Ali got the nod against some pPuerto Rican, so no need to bring out the suicide bomb ... yet. :yep Bulgarian Kolev Ognyan lost to some Filipino guy.
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69 kg
Russian Andrei Balanov won his bout against Ukrainian Olexandr Stretsky, American Andrade reached the next round as well.
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81 kg
Ukraininan Ismail Syllakh (2nd EC 2006) was eliminated by American Christopher Downs with a close points decision 27-25 (dubious? :yep).
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[avk47]

3rd day was 48kg, 51 kg , 60 kg, 69 kg and 81 kg

48 kg
There were only 5 preliminary fights, Pal Bedak (Hungary), David Ayrapetyan (Russia) and defending WC Zhou Shiming (China) reached the next round with comfortable point win.
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51 kg
saw the first round clash between French Jerome Thomas (WC 2001, 2nd WC 2003, 3rd 2002 Olympics, 2nd 2004 Olympics) and Georgi Balakshin (Russia). They already met a few times in the past decade, for the first time in 1997 at the final of the Junior European Championships which Balakshin won, 2001 when Thomas won the world title Balakshin came in 3rd. At the EC 2002 Balakshin won and Thomas was 3rd. Tough draw for an opening match and the Russian won 25-11 on points. Too bad for Thomas because he is always a candidate for medals.
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60 kg
Nothing too exciting here, Saddam Ali got the nod against some pPuerto Rican, so no need to bring out the suicide bomb ... yet. :yep Bulgarian Kolev Ognyan lost to some Filipino guy.
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69 kg
Russian Andrei Balanov won his bout against Ukrainian Olexandr Stretsky, American Andrade reached the next round as well.
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81 kg
Ukraininan Ismail Syllakh (2nd EC 2006) was eliminated by American Christopher Downs with a close points decision 27-25 (dubious? :yep).
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I'm surprised about Silakh. He's not on Beterbiev's level or on Makarenko's, however, I expected him to overcome the American boxer.

[Kolya]

Downs can be hard to fight. He's really big (6'4), and he is very mature, although much less experienced than the other fighters out there.

[Kolya]

Seems like Russians are getting tough draws and Americans are getting the benefit of doubt in scoring.

It's International judges. After every fight, a report is generated and reviewed for any inconsistencies in scoring or judging. Team USA is decent this year. Europe doesn't have a monopoly on producing good amateur boxers. That's life. Deontay Wilder, the US 201 pounder, certainly received no benefit of the doubt when he had an early lead and wound up losing by 3 points.

[NBT]

Day 3 2nd round for 54kg, 64 kg and 91 kg

54 kg
Vodopyanov (RUS), Tretyak(UKR), Gary Russell and Ali Hallab won, Russell and Hallab fight each other next and we'll see who gets "a little help from a friend". :yep Hungarian David Oltvanyi beat the Thai Petchkom (very good win), Kazakh Mizhan Rakhimzhanov eliminated Rustam Rahimov.
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64 kg
No upsets here, Gennady Kovalev (Rus), Serik Sapiyev (Kaz), Boris Georgiev (Bul) won their bouts, Gheorghe Ionut (Rom) beat the Pole Marcin Legowski.
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91 kg
Some of the favourites stepped into the ring for the first time: Rakhim Chakiev (Rus), Denys Poytsyka (Ukr), Elichin Alizade (Aze) and scored early stoppage wins, Alizade needed only 15 seconds. Clemente Russo and Alexander Povernov won their fights and have to face each other next.
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[Kolya]

You may be correct. Surely you provided good information/example. How is the draw/groupings done? Can you say with certainty it is random?

Nothing personal; You seem like a good bloke. But you have been living Stateside for a while. You are starting to sound like our propaganda minister. :hey

I am joking, of course. :good


The draw is a random computer draw assigning fighters to brackets. Demetrius Andrade from what I remember got a shitty draw; so did Rau'shee ******; who's probably the US's best bet at a Gold Medal here and in Beijing. There's no guarantee either of them will qualify at World's, they may have to qualify at the Americas qualifier. Yes, I can say for certainty the draw is random; it's the same computer system used everywhere; and the AIBA has no reason to favor US fighters-USA Boxing has been in trouble with the US Olympic Committee for a long time and has been in trouble with the AIBA before too. I'll see if I can find an explanation on how the computer system works, I know one of the USA Boxing computer techs, and correspond with them online a bit.

[avk47]

The draw is a random computer draw assigning fighters to brackets. Demetrius Andrade from what I remember got a shitty draw; so did Rau'shee ******; who's probably the US's best bet at a Gold Medal here and in Beijing. There's no guarantee either of them will qualify at World's, they may have to qualify at the Americas qualifier. Yes, I can say for certainty the draw is random; it's the same computer system used everywhere; and the AIBA has no reason to favor US fighters-USA Boxing has been in trouble with the US Olympic Committee for a long time and has been in trouble with the AIBA before too. I'll see if I can find an explanation on how the computer system works, I know one of the USA Boxing computer techs, and correspond with them online a bit.

But still robberies happen, even at the top level of amateur boxing! Remember in the last olympics when Maletin lost to Blain for example... Look at the score sheets on AIBA, in close matches you often see judges scoring wins for different fighters and with very different margins! It can't be that hard to press a button if you're an experienced judge...

[NBT]

Yep, if you look at the scoresheets of the Sillakh-Downs bout - 2 of 5 judges scored it for Sillakh and one had it a draw, but they gave it to Downs due to the other 2 judges who scored for Downs, one scored a ridiculous 30-15 for Downs.

[Kolya]

Here's some pictures of Raynell William's fight against the French fighter the other day.

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I don't think he really needed the judges help. Nice pictures though.

[Kolya]

When did this become legal in boxing?

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[avk47]

Yep, if you look at the scoresheets of the Sillakh-Downs bout - 2 of 5 judges scored it for Sillakh and one had it a draw, but they gave it to Downs due to the other 2 judges who scored for Downs, one scored a ridiculous 30-15 for Downs.

I thought the same thing when I was looking at them.

[avk47]

When did this become legal in boxing?

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Yeah, exactly. The guy in blue was landing a perfectly legal left hook to the body, and the American bastard was really slipping too low. His coaches should have taught him that slipping should be done for only a minimum distance! He should have recieved a warning for it.

[Kolya]

Yeah, exactly. The guy in blue was landing a perfectly legal left hook to the body, and the American bastard was really slipping too low. His coaches should have taught him that slipping should be done for only a minimum distance! He should have recieved a warning for it.

Actually, it's funny-in the past, that particular American boxer would have gone berserk after being judo tossed and gotten himself DQ'd. Now though he maintained his composure and won an RSCO stoppage.

[avk47]

Actually, it's funny-in the past, that particular American boxer would have gone berserk after being judo tossed and gotten himself DQ'd. Now though he maintained his composure and won an RSCO stoppage.

HE would have gone berserk after slipping so ridiculously low? That is terrible boxing technique. Kolya, are you working in the press service of USA boxing?

[Kolya]

HE would have gone berserk after slipping so ridiculously low? That is terrible boxing technique. Kolya, are you working in the press service of USA boxing?


:lol: :lol: No, but I am supporting team USA in general; with the exception of when they may box members of the Russian team. I don't expect Shawn Estrada (the tossee in that picture) to come even close to defeating Korobov; but I want to see as many members of the team qualified for the Olympics in Chicago as possible.

[Kolya]

And here's something I just found out regarding the officials and judging, so as to hopefully lay to rest more of the belief or accusations of bias towards American boxers. This is from someone I know with USA Boxing:

They are all World AIBA judges; they are not allowed to work their own continent, let alone their own country; they are given their assignments before the bouts they work (like minutes before). I'm sure our boxers are "pumped up" more because they are in a place that is pro-USA, rather than the negative response they usually get in international tournaments.

[Artani]

BAKHTIYAR Artayev wins again. It will be fantastic to see Artayev with Korebov in final of 75 kg.

[Artani]

Nico Jokinen lost badly from Thailand fighter Suriay by 23 :11 . I heard a lot of think from Toney about Jokinen but he dident show nothing.

[boxmel]

Said NBT: Yep, if you look at the scoresheets of the Sillakh-Downs bout - 2 of 5 judges scored it for Sillakh and one had it a draw, but they gave it to Downs due to the other 2 judges who scored for Downs, one scored a ridiculous 30-15 for Downs.


Just curious - are you in Chicago where you can actually see the bouts? If not, and if you are attempting to give an opinion off a score sheet, don't you think that's kind of ridiculous? How in the world can you determine that a 30-15 for Downs was ridiculous if you didn't see the bout???

[NBT]

Just curious - are you in Chicago where you can actually see the bouts? If not, and if you are attempting to give an opinion off a score sheet, don't you think that's kind of ridiculous? How in the world can you determine that a 30-15 for Downs was ridiculous if you didn't see the bout???
If one scoring is so ridiculously out of line in comparsion to the others like that one (even the one that also gave it to Downs), than there isn't much need for opinions, than these facts are all you need to know. And btw I haven't forgot the last WCs held in the USA, if you know what I mean.


Day 4
51 kg - Somjit Jongjohor (THA, 2003 WC), Mammadov (KAZ), Balakshin (Rus), ****** (USA) are in the next round.
57 kg - Selimov (Rus), Williams (USA) in the next round. Shaidulin lost 25-26 to Mikhail Biamdski (BLR) upset and another case of dubious judging... 4 out of 5 judges gave the bout to Shadulin. No American involved though, so we won't hear any crying this time I bet. :yep
75 kg - Artayev (kaz), Korobov (Rus), Sutherland(Irl) in the next round.
+91 kg - Timurziev(Rus), Rygebayev (Kaz), Jaksto (Ltu), Glazkov (Ukr), Cammarelle (Ita), Price (Eng), Pulev(Bul) in the next round. In a notable bout Abdusalmov (BLR) defeated Rustam Saidov with a first round stoppage. He fights Jakst next, Cammarelle faces Pulev.

[Artani]

Heavyweight its going to be interesting in the next round :

TIMURZIEV Islam (RUS)
CAMMARELLE Roberto (ITA)
HUNTER Michael (USA)
PULEV Kubrat (BUL)
PRICE David (ENG)
ZHANG Zhilei (CHN)
RYGEBAYEV Rustam (KAZ)
MARCETA Mane (SRB)
BEAHAN Daniel (AUS)
ABDUSALSMOV Magomed (BLR)
JAKSTO Jaroslav (LTU)
RIVAS Oscar (COL)
GLAZKOV Vyacheslav (UKR)
DIMOVSKI Primislav (MKD)
DELAVARI Jasem (IRI)
MAMMADOV Azar (AZE)

[Artani]

Romania wrong about his fighter in the +91 . I know that Andrei Razvaan Cajanu was more experinced and lost from ukrainen talent Vyechaslev Glazkov but soupose to sent the young prospect who is only 20 year old Cristian Ciocan.

The young Ciocan is 20 year old, 192 cm, and 115 kg.

This results arrive at 2006
He wins gold medal in under 19 years world championship in Agadiir, Morocco.
Bronze medal in junior europian union championship in Rome, Italy


Remember this guy he is future and Romania wrong and maybe khe will be angry now and will turn on profi.

[Super_Fly_Sam]

Unfortunately Australia has been having a tough time:verysad

Light Flyweight (48kg) : Steve Sutherland
Fly Weight (51kg) : Jimmy Ceapa OUT
Bantamweight (54kg) : Luke Boyd OUT
Featherweight (57kg) : Paul Flemming OUT
Lightweight (60kg) : William Tomlinson OUT
Light Welterweight (64kg) : Todd Kidd OUT
Welterweight (69kg) : Gerard O'Mahony
Middleweight (75kg) : NO ENTRY
Light Heavyweight (81kg) : Mattew Corbett
HeavyWeight (91kg) : Bradley Pitt OUT
Super Heavyweight (+91kg) : Daniel Beahan


but theres still hope....

also im pissed that the website hasnt posted any pics of the Aussies :fire

[Hrak]

ARMENIAN TEAM

DANIELYAN Hovhannes 48 kg- fighting Aaronon Cumberbatch of Trinidad on Oct.28
GIZHLARYAN Derenik 51 kg (OUT)
AVAGYAN Vachagan 54 kg (OUT)
HOVHANNISYAN Azat 57 kg - fighting Raynell Williams of USA on Oct.30
JAVAKHYAN Hrachik 60 kg - fighting Ali Sadam of USA on Oct.28
HAMBARDZUMYAN Eduard 64 kg - fighting Kwan-Soo Park of Korea on Oct. 30
HAKOBYAN Andranik 75 kg - fighting Darren Sutherland of Irland on Oct.27 (in progress)- need update
ANANIKYAN Tsolak 81 kg- fighting Bahram Muzaffer of Turkey on Oct.28

[boxmel]

Again said NBTIf one scoring is so ridiculously out of line in comparsion to the others like that one (even the one that also gave it to Downs), than there isn't much need for opinions, than these facts are all you need to know. And btw I haven't forgot the last WCs held in the USA, if you know what I mean.



Then I guess we don't ever have to watch a bout in person. We can just rely on the judge's score sheets for an accurate picture of what happened. :nut

Yeah - the Cubans protested and Segurro was suspended. But, if I may ask, what does that have to do with the WC's being in the US? No matter where the Worlds have been held, there has always been a modicum of corruption so please don't single out the U.S., especially when the officials are from all over the world. Up until, possibly, this new election, the U.S. has had no influence for many years. Yet, there are "mafias" in Russia, Korea, Hungary who have had major influence in amateur boxing. Is anyone ever upset about that? Nah - just kick the good old USA because ya'll don't have the balls to go after the "Big Boys." Clean up your own backyard before you come in ours. :thumbsup

[NBT]

Then I guess we don't ever have to watch a bout in person. We can just rely on the judge's score sheets for an accurate picture of what happened.
If you'd care to read what I actually wrote you would have noticed that I didn't claim the scoring was a robbery. I implied that the scoring is dubious and that's obviously what it is. If that's too much for you, well, cry me a river.

[boxmel]

Nah, nothing's too much for me and I don't cry. Find someone else to pick on. However, here is your original quote:

one scored a ridiculous 30-15 for Downs.

Now, nowhere have I implied that you felt this particular scoring was a "robbery" and you certainly didn't say it was dubious. You said it was "ridiculous".......which imparts many images. "Ridiculous" is a stronger image than "dubious."

I've been scanning some of the score sheets and I have wondered about a few judges myself. And some of the bouts are actually 3-2 or 4-1 decisions. I haven't seen anything I feel to be completely outrageous in the accepted scoring. Some of the "raw" scores are high but that's why 3 out of 5 judges have to push the button for the same boxer in order to give a boxer a point. I teched a USA-Mexico dual once and one Mexican judge super glued his finger to the Mexican boxer; the Russian's are known for doing this, too. Just my opinions and I'm entitled to them. :nut

[NBT]

Now, nowhere have I implied that you felt this particular scoring was a "robbery" and you certainly didn't say it was dubious. You said it was "ridiculous".......which imparts many images. "Ridiculous" is a stronger image than "dubious."
Do I actually have to quote my own postings? Well, here we go:
81 kg
Ukraininan Ismail Syllakh (2nd EC 2006) was eliminated by American Christopher Downs with a close points decision 27-25 (dubious? :yep).
I dubbed the overall scoring for this bout as dubious and the particular scoring of the guy that had it 15-30 as ridiculous and I stand by that. I don't think that's too strong a word when one scoring is that far out of line compared to the others.

[boxmel]

I dubbed the overall scoring for this bout as dubious and the particular scoring of the guy that had it 15-30 as ridiculous and I stand by that. I don't think that's too strong a word when one scoring is that far out of line compared to the others.

I could, of course, be completely misreading you. Are you talking about judges with scores out of line in all the bouts? Or just the US bouts?

[Mendoza]

Rustam Rygebayev of Kazakhstan.

I hear he's a huge man with a punch. A treu super heavyweight. He scored a stoppage in round one. He draws China's fighter next then the winner of SRB vs Australia.

This guy could be a dark horse. Does anyone have info or a picture on him?

[NBT]

I could, of course, be completely misreading you. Are you talking about judges with scores out of line in all the bouts? Or just the US bouts?
Of course in all bouts, like I said I think the Shadulin elimination is rather dubious as well. But I admit that I expect the American fighters to get "the benefit of the doubt". :yep
Rustam Rygebayev of Kazakhstan.

I hear he's a huge man with a punch. A treu super heavyweight. He scored a stoppage in round one. He draws China's fighter next then the winner of SRB vs Australia.

This guy could be a dark horse. Does anyone have info or a picture on him?
He was knocked down by the Greek fighter himself so I wouldn't get my hopes up. I would be very surprised if he could hang with the top guys. He's the guy in blue:
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[Artani]

Rustam Rygebayev of Kazakhstan.

I hear he's a huge man with a punch. A treu super heavyweight. He scored a stoppage in round one. He draws China's fighter next then the winner of SRB vs Australia.

This guy could be a dark horse. Does anyone have info or a picture on him?

I try to find somewhere for you Mendoza but dident find nothing ? I think he is very talent and will arrive till semifinal and will get medal. He was also lucky in the draws because he have power to beat china fighter next and after winner of serbia-australia.

[Mendoza]

I try to find somewhere for you Mendoza but dident find nothing ? I think he is very talent and will arrive till semifinal and will get medal. He was also lucky in the draws because he have power to beat china fighter next and after winner of serbia-australia.

Thanks. Here's what I know. Rygebaybev took over Kaz's #1 spot at super heavyweight over Dildabekov.

Dildabekov was a good fighter. He won the Oylmpic Silver medal at super heavy in 2000, and did well in 2004 games. Rygebaybev can produce rare KO wins ( Not RSC, or RSCO ) in the amatuers. He must be a big puncher.

I agree his draw is very favorabile, but at the same time I think he has a real chance to upset due to his power.

[Hrak]

ARMENIAN TEAM (update)

DANIELYAN Hovhannes 48 kg- fighting Zviad KHADURI of Goergia on Oct.31.
GIZHLARYAN Derenik 51 kg (OUT)
AVAGYAN Vachagan 54 kg (OUT)
HOVHANNISYAN Azat 57 kg - fighting Raynell Williams of USA on Oct.30
JAVAKHYAN Hrachik 60 kg - beat Ali Sadam of USA on Oct.28, fighting Genebert BASADRE of Philippines on Oct.31
HAMBARDZUMYAN Eduard 64 kg - fighting Kwan-Soo Park of Korea on Oct. 30
HAKOBYAN Andranik 75 kg - (OUT)
ANANIKYAN Tsolak 81 kg- beat Bahram Muzaffer of Turkey, fighting Daugirdas SEMIOTAS on Oct.31

[Hrak]

ARMENIAN TEAM (update oct.30)

DANIELYAN Hovhannes 48 kg- fighting Zviad KHADURI of Goergia on Oct.31.
GIZHLARYAN Derenik 51 kg (OUT)
AVAGYAN Vachagan 54 kg (OUT)
HOVHANNISYAN Azat 57 kg - (OUT)
JAVAKHYAN Hrachik 60 kg - beat Ali Sadam of USA on Oct.28, fighting Genebert BASADRE of Philippines on Oct.31 :happy
HAMBARDZUMYAN Eduard 64 kg - fighting GHVAMICHAVA L of Georgia on Nov.1 (Quarterfinals) :happy
HAKOBYAN Andranik 75 kg - (OUT)
ANANIKYAN Tsolak 81 kg- beat Bahram Muzaffer of Turkey, fighting Daugirdas SEMIOTAS on Oct.31

[Artani]

This is eight fighters who will get competicion in the 75 kg in the next year in olimpic games in China 2008 .

KOROBOV Matvey (RUS)
BAKHTIYAR Artayev (KAZ)
DEREVYANCHENKO Sergiy (UKR)
BUGA Konstantin (GER)
RACHIDI Said (MAR)
WANG Jianzheng (CHN)
BLANCO Alfonso (VEN)
NUNEZ Argenis (DOM)

[Artani]

Korobov vs Arteyev will be good final if they will happen this year .
Who wins ? Your opinion ?

[Darien]

The Hungarian team's performance is quite disappointing. Both Bedák and Káté, the 2 biggest names are out. On the other hand Darmos at 91kg is a very positive suprise.

[Metal Man]

Matvey Korobov's one of the best fighters i've ever seen.Someone's got to offer him a pro contract,kid's unbelievable,can do everything.He'd be a great asset to the pro game.What the hell happened to Poyatsika?

[avk47]

Matvey Korobov's one of the best fighters i've ever seen.Someone's got to offer him a pro contract,kid's unbelievable,can do everything.He'd be a great asset to the pro game.What the hell happened to Poyatsika?

Poyatsika was always unstable. While he managed to stop Romanchuk in the Europeans, he has lost to fighters of much lower profile.

I agree completely about Korobov, he can move, he can punch, he combines very well and he has excellent ring generalship. Already over 300 fights at his age! I think if he wins the olympics he would have won everything, and would probably turn over.

[amy]

The Russian team is having an unbelievable performance. The last I saw, they had all 11 fighters still in the tournament. That's incredible; they may qualify everyone for the Olympics in Chicago.

[Mendoza]

Matvey Korobov's one of the best fighters i've ever seen.Someone's got to offer him a pro contract,kid's unbelievable,can do everything.He'd be a great asset to the pro game.What the hell happened to Poyatsika?

Russian middle weight Korobov faces China's middle weight Wang next. It should be an easy match for Korobov. And speaking of China, they are doign well. Even in the upper weights which is a surprise.

Poyatsike lost? This is only a mild upset only as Alizade has medaled in big events before.

Is there a link to the action?

[SavonSolis]

The Russian team is having an unbelievable performance. The last I saw, they had all 11 fighters still in the tournament. That's incredible; they may qualify everyone for the Olympics in Chicago.

They are doing very well... however in todays session thier 48kg Kazakov lost to returning Olympic Gold Medalist Zou Shiming. Kazakov will not qualify at the World Championship so RUssia wont put everybody through

[SavonSolis]

Rustam Rygebayev of Kazakhstan.

I hear he's a huge man with a punch. A treu super heavyweight. He scored a stoppage in round one. He draws China's fighter next then the winner of SRB vs Australia.

This guy could be a dark horse. Does anyone have info or a picture on him?

Zhilei Zhang from China is who he has today. Although it doesnt seem likely of China producing a good Superheavyweight, but this kid actually has talent. I wouldnt be surprised if Zhang won n even advanced to the Semi's.

Another upset to watch out for is Hunter, if he wins today, over Timuziev. Although the odds are stacked highly against Hunter, he has been on fire so far this tournament and he is extremely slick.

[NBT]

Russia's 48 kg at this WCs is Ayrapetyan not Kazakov. The 48kg draw was a joke, four of the favourites (Ayrapetyan, Zou, Zhakypov, Bedak) had to eliminate each other in the 2nd and 3rd round. All these guys are good enough for the semifinals where as certain other guys ( ... ) get a bum ride to the finals. They should use some seeding system.

[Mendoza]

Russia's 48 kg at this WCs is Ayrapetyan not Kazakov. The 48kg draw was a joke, four of the favourites (Ayrapetyan, Zou, Zhakypov, Bedak) had to eliminate each other in the 2nd and 3rd round. All these guys are good enough for the semifinals where as certain other guys ( ... ) get a bum ride to the finals. They should use some seeding system.

Could they afford to use seeding without other countries complaining? Maybe, but it would need some definition.

Perhaps a rule could be put in that says former medalists in the Olympics or World Amateur champions can not fight each other in round one. In the last Olympics, Solis and Alexevv had to fight each other in round one. What a pity.

[SavonSolis]

Russia's 48 kg at this WCs is Ayrapetyan not Kazakov. The 48kg draw was a joke, four of the favourites (Ayrapetyan, Zou, Zhakypov, Bedak) had to eliminate each other in the 2nd and 3rd round. All these guys are good enough for the semifinals where as certain other guys ( ... ) get a bum ride to the finals. They should use some seeding system.

Yo a draw is a draw.. you cant complain because everybody was subjected to it.

[avk47]

Russia's 48 kg at this WCs is Ayrapetyan not Kazakov. The 48kg draw was a joke, four of the favourites (Ayrapetyan, Zou, Zhakypov, Bedak) had to eliminate each other in the 2nd and 3rd round. All these guys are good enough for the semifinals where as certain other guys ( ... ) get a bum ride to the finals. They should use some seeding system.

Agreed. It was unfortunate...

Balanov is now out as well, sadly. However, Timurziev keeps knocking them out!

[giggigreto]

Cammarelle - Timurziev in the semifinals will be explosive!
I hope that my fellow italian will be able to revenge his setback against the same foe at the european championships. He has to be elusive and use his superior handspeed. But, this is easier to say than to do for a 91+ kg guy.

The other italians are doing really well. The team is in excellent physical condition and enjoyed a good draw overall. Picardi at flighweight, Valentino at lightweight and Russo at heavyweight can all get to the finals, since they have the russians on the other side of the draw sheet.

Picardi should have a tough fight with a Thai fighter in the semis, but the Russian, another exSoviet, and the American, who are the top guys, are all on the other side of the table.

Valentino has to face the Georgian Javakhyan who was silver at the European championships, and another bout against the winner of the other quarter final that pits the colombian Perez who beat Klyutchko of Ukraine and the awkward North Korean guy, while on the upper side of the draw Tishchenko should pretty much cruise to the final.

Clemente Russo is a dark horse, but he is the best chance Italy has for a final, because his opponents, after beating the European champ Povernov, don't look terribly tough. In the quarters, he face experienced Montenegrine Gajovic, who at 33 is the oldest guy who competes in these world championships. Winning that, he would face the HUngarian or the Chinese, about those 2 I know little about. On the other side of the draw, the Russian, the French, the Romanian and the Azeri are good athletes who will battle each other fiercely, and produce a tired finalist (I hope!)

[Kolya]

So I heard Demetrius Andrade andh is opponent from Belarus were beasting at each other when they fought yesterday; and engaged in a war. Someone said the crowd was electric for it and there was actually real bad blood between the fighters. And then after coasting to the win in the last round, Demetrius showed bad sportsmanship by just shuffling back away from his opponent instead of touching gloves, and was booed for it by the crowd.

[betman]

there are 3 quarter finalist from turkish team .Their next bouts r ;


57 KG : Sailom ADI (THA) - Yakup KILIC (TUR) (1 NOVEMBER)
60 KG : Fankie GAVIN (ENG) - Onur SIPAL (TUR) (1 NOVEMBER)
69 KG : Adem KILICCI (TUR) - Vitalie GRUSAC (MDA) (1 NOVEMBER)

[Alcaldemb]

So ten members of the Russian team have made it to the semis? How many members of the American team have made it to the semis? Also has anyone gone the distance with Timurziev yet? I tend to think his loss to Solis was kind of a fluke because of his year of inactivity due to the tumor.

[Kolya]

Team USA has 5 members qualified for the Olympics right now; and if Michael Hunter somehow, miraculously, beats Timurziev, he'll qualify. All in all, Team USA has had a very successful tournament. Right now Luiz Yanez, Rau'shee ******, Gary Russel, Raynell Williams, and Demetrius Andrade have qualified. Hunter fights Timurziev today I think.

[Alcaldemb]

Somehow I don't see Hunter beating Timurziev. Islam seems to have gotten back on track after a poor 2006. He hasn't let anyone out of the first round and Hunter has strugged against lesser foes. I see another stoppage win for Timurziev.

I firmly believe, in light of his performance at this tournament, that his losses to Solis and in the Russian Championships were a fluke due to his tumor.

[Alcaldemb]

I wonder how team USA will do when it comes to medals.

[Kolya]

I wonder how team USA will do when it comes to medals.

I expect that all but Hunter will medal of those who have qualified. ******, Andrade, and Williams could very well win Gold; and I don't think it's far fetched for Yanez to win a silver or bronze depending on when he has to fight the Chinese fighter; and for Russel to make it to silver or Gold level either.

[Alcaldemb]

That would be the best American result in years. By the way how tall is Timurziev and how much does he weigh? I know Hunter is around 6'1" and 210-215. Isn't Timurziev about 6'2" and 230?

[Kolya]

I think Timurziev is about 6'2, 6'3. Somewhere in there. Fairly decent sized, little bit bigger than Povetkin.

[Alcaldemb]

I think Timurziev is about 6'2, 6'3. Somewhere in there. Fairly decent sized, little bit bigger than Povetkin.

Yeah figured he was around there. I know he is 230ish, he is built like a tank, and hits like one too.

[Kolya]

Rau'shee ****** beat Balakshin of Russia 23-13; and Raynell Williams lost to his opponent, Albert Selimov, 28-5. Ouch. Oh well, this was Raynell's first major international tournament; he's still a teenager. he qualified for the lympics at least.

[Alcaldemb]

Rau'shee ****** beat Balakshin of Russia 23-13; and Raynell Williams lost to his opponent, Albert Selimov, 28-5. Ouch. Oh well, this was Raynell's first major international tournament; he's still a teenager. he qualified for the lympics at least.

Good win for ******, isn't Selimov from Russia?

[Kolya]

Good win for ******, isn't Selimov from Russia?

Both Selimov and Balakshin are from russia, yes. Half of the remaining Americans are fighting Russian team members today I think. :lol: I know Hunter is; and I think Andrade is, not sure though.

[Alcaldemb]

Both Selimov and Balakshin are from russia, yes. Half of the remaining Americans are fighting Russian team members today I think. :lol: I know Hunter is; and I think Andrade is, not sure though.

If Hunter makes it out of the first round is that considered a moral victory?

[razor]

201 lbs Clemente Russo and light heavy Korobov have won.

And Rakhim Chakheiv beat Alizade.

[Kolya]

201 lbs Clemente Russo and light heavy Korobov have won.

And Rakhim Chakheiv beat Alizade.

Korobov is a middle weight.

[Kolya]

If Hunter makes it out of the first round is that considered a moral victory?

I think so. Going the distance would be a win in and of itself.

[razor]

Chinese! YUSHAN Nijiati and John Mbumba(france) are the other 201 semifinalists.

[avk47]

Rau'shee ****** beat Balakshin of Russia 23-13; and Raynell Williams lost to his opponent, Albert Selimov, 28-5. Ouch. Oh well, this was Raynell's first major international tournament; he's still a teenager. he qualified for the lympics at least.

****** must be pretty good if he beat Balakshin. I'm impressed, and this coming from a fan of Balakshin. I'm also quite pissed off...

[Alcaldemb]

4 of the 5 Russians that have fought thus far won their fights.

[Kolya]

****** must be pretty good if he beat Balakshin. I'm impressed, and this coming from a fan of Balakshin. I'm also quite pissed off...

****** is a beast; hasn't lost in the US at all lately; and was at the 2004 Olympics. I have some video of him at either Nationals or the Olympic Trials if you're interested in seeing how he fights.

[avk47]

****** is a beast; hasn't lost in the US at all lately; and was at the 2004 Olympics. I have some video of him at either Nationals or the Olympic Trials if you're interested in seeing how he fights.

Let me have a look. Balakshin is a very technical, fast fighter. It takes a very good amateur to beat him.

[Kolya]

Agreed. ****** has definately garnered my attention.

He should; he's only 20 and will be 21 in Beijing-at his 2nd Olympics. If you'd like as well, I'll PM you some footage of him against the #3 guy in the USA; apparently at this year's Olympic Trials (I think it was actually filmed at the Nationals though).

[Kolya]

You do not have to do that. Thank You just the same. Incidentially: I appreciate your contributions to this thread.:good

What can I say-I love amateur boxing and talking about it (and taking part in it). :D

[apollack]

I too have followed Raushee ******. I first saw him as a 17 year old at the PAL in Toledo, OH, in I think in '03. I've seen him fight multiple times since then. Anyway, having had experience in the '04 Olympics, he might be one of our best bets for a medal. ****** is a blazing fast southpaw, 112 pounds. And when I saw blazing fast, I mean blazing fast. Good footwork too.


Demetrius Andrade is a tall, strong and fast southpaw with long arms. He too should do well for the Americans.

[Alcaldemb]

Well congrats to Hunter, he made it all 4 vs Timurziev. Russia is advancing 9 out of their original 11, very impressive.

[razor]

Vyacheslav GLAZKOV stopped Jaksto? Wow.
The guy must be good.
And another chinese is in the semis.

[Hrak]

ARMENIAN TEAM (update Nov.2)

DANIELYAN Hovhannes 48 kg- (OUT) lost in quarterfinals
GIZHLARYAN Derenik 51 kg (OUT)
AVAGYAN Vachagan 54 kg (OUT)
HOVHANNISYAN Azat 57 kg - (OUT)
JAVAKHYAN Hrachik 60 kg - (OUT) lost in Quarterfinals
HAMBARDZUMYAN Eduard 64 kg - (OUT)-lost in Quarterfinals (qualified for Beijing Olympics)
HAKOBYAN Andranik 75 kg - (OUT)
ANANIKYAN Tsolak 81 kg- (OUT) lost in Quarterfinals

[Mendoza]

Vyacheslav GLAZKOV stopped Jaksto? Wow.
The guy must be good.
And another chinese is in the semis.

I think the three big stories in this amateur tournament are the dominance of the Russia team, who advances 9 of 11 fighters into the medal rounds, the absence of the Cuban team, and the surprising performance by the Chinese fighters in the upper weights.



China has a heavyweight and a super heavyweight advancing to the medal rounds. I don’t think either of them will win gold, but to get to this point is a surprise.

[Metal Man]

Russia's reps at light heavy,heavy and super heavy are all Chechens.They are obviously only a small minority in Russia so its amazing that they fill up the spots of the heavier weight classes.

[avk47]

Russia's reps at light heavy,heavy and super heavy are all Chechens.They are obviously only a small minority in Russia so its amazing that they fill up the spots of the heavier weight classes.

They are just physically very strong and powerful, plus they have a tradition in combat sports - wrestling, boxing etc.

Since Povetkin left, there isn't really anyone else appart from Timurziev at super heavy. Mind you, if you look at the national rankings, you have other Chechens there as well, like David Arshba etc. They are just a physically large and strong nation.

At heavyweight, there is plenty of competition, and I would say that Romanchuk (Ukranian) is arguably as good or beter than Chakhiev. I have heard conflicting stories as to the outcome of their selection sparring - many people said Romanchuk won fairly clearly, but he didn't have good relations with the national team management/coaching. I never saw it, so I'm just stating some rumors. I watched their match at the nationals, and I thought Chakhiev was lucky to win it.

At light heavy, I'm a very big fan of Beterbiev. It took him a while to get out of Makarenko's shaddow but he's finally done it.

[Artani]

Russia once again show great product. Eight semi finals thats a great for Russia state.

[Artani]

Michael Hunter is just 19 year old. Did somebody saw fight Timurziev - Hunter, it was 22:15 for Timurziev.
They saying that he is like Ridick Bowe ?
Next year maybe he will beat Timurziev and Cammarelle.

MICHAEL HUNTER[Only registered and activated users can see links] Weight Class: Super heavyweight/201+ pounds
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Height: 6-2
Born: July 10, 1988
Weight: 215 lbs
Reach: 34
Lives: Las Vegas, Nev.
Began Boxing: 2002
Coach: Michael Newson, Jr.
Career Highlight: Making it to the finals of the Golden Gloves with only five bouts
Biggest influence: My mom, she has played a big role in my boxing career. She keeps my head on straight. She is my transportation and she supports me.
Draw to boxing: My dad was a professional boxer and you know what they say like father like son
Greatest Strength in the ring: My mind and speed
Other sports played: Basketball and football
Loves most about boxing: You get to travel and it’s a new experience every time. I like meeting new people
Goals in and out of the ring: I would like to go to college and go the Olympics
Favorite TV show: Jamie Foxx 2006 UNDER 19 NATIONAL CHAMPION
2007
U.S. Championships: stopped Josh Parsons, Barbousville, W.V., RSC-2 (:32), in quarterfinals; dec. Lenroy Thompson, Port St. Lucie, Fla., 17-12, in semifinals; dec. Mike Wilson, Central Point, Ore., 25-24, in finals for 1st

[betman]

semifinalist turkish boxers:

Adem KILICCI (TUR) - Demetrius ANDRADE (USA)
Yakup KILIC (TUR) - Albert SELIMOV (RUS)

[Artani]

semifinalist turkish boxers:

Adem KILICCI (TUR) - Demetrius ANDRADE (USA)
Yakup KILIC (TUR) - Albert SELIMOV (RUS)

Great results for Turkey :good

[curmudgeon]

Sending fighters in 8 out 9 top weight categories getting to semifinals is a mighty impressive result for single country.

[betman]

Great results for Turkey :good
ty man russia rules today again...
congratz to all russian friends...

[giggigreto]

Russia got 6 finalists
Italy has 3 boxers in final, out of 6 guys brought in Chicago, and we have been astonishing!
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(Clemente Russo)
then there are Ukraine, Thailand and the United States with 2 athletes each
China has only Zou who reached the finals out of 5 boxers in the semis, they crumbled at the last step..

Upsets: the win by the venezuelan Blanco against the best boxer of the 2004 olympics, Arteyev from Kazakhstan, at 75 kg, and at 60 kg Gavin from England defeating the mighty Russian Tishchenko, who some acclaimed as the P4P best amateur boxer of the world.

I'd be really curious to see these bouts, I hope and believe at least the semifinals are being broadcasted somewhere!

[apollack]

Does anyone know why Timurziev lost on a walkover tonight?

What about Selimov? He won on a walkover. What happened with his opponent?

[NBT]

I heard something about Appendicitis. Too bad, seemed like he was in good shape. Well, good for Cammarelle, now that he got lucky the title is his for the taking, I couldn't seem him beating Timurziev. It would be his first major title.

To see both Tishchenko and the Korean Kim Song Guk, who were the favourites for going to the finals at 60 kg, out in the semis is surprising. But than again, Tishchenko didn't look like he was in prime shape in his previous bouts, so it's not a total shocker.

[avk47]

Timurziev has an accute case of appendicitis and was hospitalized. He already had heavy symptoms during his quarterfinal match with Michael Hunter, but fought anyway to get his olympic qualification. This was from the Vice President of the Russian boxing federation, Victor Rybakov.


I'm pretty surprised that Tischenko lost, I considered him a guaranteed medal. I knew that Frankie Gavin was good but didn't see him as a threat to the man from Omsk. I'd really love to see the match...

This tournament has shown a lot of surprises!

[joeboxer]

Michael Hunter is just 19 year old. Did somebody saw fight Timurziev - Hunter, it was 22:15 for Timurziev.
They saying that he is like Ridick Bowe ?
Next year maybe he will beat Timurziev and Cammarelle.

MICHAEL HUNTER[Only registered and activated users can see links] Weight Class: Super heavyweight/201+ pounds
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Height: 6-2
Born: July 10, 1988
Weight: 215 lbs
Reach: 34
Lives: Las Vegas, Nev.
Began Boxing: 2002
Coach: Michael Newson, Jr.
Career Highlight: Making it to the finals of the Golden Gloves with only five bouts
Biggest influence: My mom, she has played a big role in my boxing career. She keeps my head on straight. She is my transportation and she supports me.
Draw to boxing: My dad was a professional boxer and you know what they say like father like son
Greatest Strength in the ring: My mind and speed
Other sports played: Basketball and football
Loves most about boxing: You get to travel and it’s a new experience every time. I like meeting new people
Goals in and out of the ring: I would like to go to college and go the Olympics
Favorite TV show: Jamie Foxx 2006 UNDER 19 NATIONAL CHAMPION
2007
U.S. Championships: stopped Josh Parsons, Barbousville, W.V., RSC-2 (:32), in quarterfinals; dec. Lenroy Thompson, Port St. Lucie, Fla., 17-12, in semifinals; dec. Mike Wilson, Central Point, Ore., 25-24, in finals for 1st hmmm, he represented himself well, but perhaps since he is five inches shorter, bowe is not a good comparison.

[Darien]

All Hungarians are out. Szellő(81kg) and Darmos(91kg) lost in the quarterfinals. Szellő earned the right to compete in Beijing.

[Odo]

Timurziev has an accute case of appendicitis and was hospitalized. He already had heavy symptoms during his quarterfinal match with Michael Hunter, but fought anyway to get his olympic qualification. This was from the Vice President of the Russian boxing federation, Victor Rybakov.


I'm pretty surprised that Tischenko lost, I considered him a guaranteed medal. I knew that Frankie Gavin was good but didn't see him as a threat to the man from Omsk. I'd really love to see the match...

This tournament has shown a lot of surprises!

Tishenko kicked out of the tournament? Huge upset indeed!

Big disappointment for Belarus-no fighter who represents the colours of Belarus has reached the quarterfinals.
Most of this year's fighters who have participated are no ethnic Belarussians anyway-Russia has a similar problem.
Especially Viktor Zuev-Belarus' greatest hope to win a medal-has dipappointed all his fans.

[Odo]

Artayev should turn pro-his style is made for the pros.

Anyone seen Lithuanyan Daugirdas Semiotas' fight against Artur Beberbjev?

[razor]

Beterbiyev won by walkover,

[razor]

How good is Vyacheslav Glazkov?
Whats his age?

[NBT]

Glazkov just turned 23. At the European Championships last year he lost a decision to Kubrat Pulev by a big margin. Cammarelle should take it.

[Mendoza]

Glazkov just turned 23. At the European Championships last year he lost a decision to Kubrat Pulev by a big margin. Cammarelle should take it.

Then the question remains, how much has Glazkov improved since? He has two stoppage wins so far in this tournament.

Cammarelle is a talent. He should win gold in a major event for the first time.

[avk47]

Then the question remains, how much has Glazkov improved since? He has two stoppage wins so far in this tournament.

Cammarelle is a talent. He should win gold in a major event for the first time.

He's lucky. He wouldn't have gotten passed Timurziev.

[Coast]

hmmm, he represented himself well, but perhaps since he is five inches shorter, bowe is not a good comparison.

Hunter is 6'2-Bowe 6'5, so 3 inches. But, Hunter has 34 inch arms which will give him a reach advantage over a lot of heavy's.

I think the Bowe comparisons probably have more to do with Hunter being the best American Heavyweight prospect since Bowe. The kid is only 19 so he will eventually fill out to 230 and can develop his power & skill. There has been an endless amount of hyped American heavyweights since Bowe flamed out. Hunter might turn out to be worthy of some of the hype. I think Bejing will be too soon for him to beat the best, but will give him the national exposure to launch a pro career.

[Coast]

Russian's just won their first gold-

54 kgVODOPYANOV SergeyRUSREDPTS 16:14
BADAR-UUGAN EnkhbatMGL

Close fight 16-14. Shiming Zou won gold for China at 48 and ****** won at 51 for the USA.

[avk47]

Russian's just won their first gold-

54 kgVODOPYANOV SergeyRUSREDPTS 16:14
BADAR-UUGAN EnkhbatMGL

Close fight 16-14. Shiming Zou won gold for China at 48 and ****** won at 51 for the USA.

Selimov just won gold as well. I was always very big on Vodopyanov. Just 19 years old as well. A great talent I predicted to win this.

[Coast]

Selimov just won gold as well. I was always very big on Vodopyanov. Just 19 years old as well. A great talent I predicted to win this.

Impressive! I will definitely be watching him in the Olympics.

[avk47]

Impressive! I will definitely be watching him in the Olympics.

You should do. Very fast hands, excellent angles, and can box in both stances. He has a slick, classy style of boxing, but when he is losing he can come forward and force through a win as well.

[razor]

Beterbiyev has lost. Upset

[giggigreto]

Russo beats russian

he is the (amateur) heavyweight champion of the world !!






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[Mendoza]

The finals at super heavy between Italy's Cammarelle and Ukraine's Glazkov is the last and final match.

[Mendoza]

Cammarrelle up 6-3 after round one. Can Italy take gold at heavy and super heavy?

[giggigreto]

It looks likely, although Cammarelle is meeting stiff resistance

[Mendoza]

It looks likely, although Cammarelle is meeting stiff resistance

Cammarelle in the lead after 3 rounds, 18-14. Sounds like an action fight. Can the young super heavy from the Ukraine win?

[Mendoza]

Cammarelle closes strong and wins, 24-14.

[Mendoza]

Finals sheet with scoring:

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[NBT]

That's it for the Amateur World Championships 2007.
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Finals
48kg: Zou Shiming (China) - Harry Tanamor (Philippines) 17-3
51kg: Rau'shee ****** (USA) - Somjit Jongjohor (Thailand) 13-9
54kg: Sergey Vodopyanov (Russia) - Enkhbat Badar-Uugan (Mongolia) 16-14
57kg: Albert Selimov (Russia) - Vasyl Lomachenko (Ukraine) 16-11
60kg: Frankie Gavin (England) - Domenico Valentino (Italy) 18-10
64kg: Serik Sapiyev (Kazakhstan) - Gennady Kovalev (Russia) 20-5
69kg: Demetrius Andrade (USA) - Manon Boonjumnong (Thailand) RSC-I R2
75kg: Matvey Korobov (Russia) - Alfonso Blanco (Venezuela) 29-4
81kg: Abbos Atoev (Uzbekistan) - Artur Beterbiev (Russia) 20-17
91kg: Clemente Russo (Italy) - Rakhim Chakhkiev (Russia) 7-6
+91kg: Roberto Cammarelle (Italy) - Vyacheslav GLazkov (Ukraine) 24-14

Nation Ranking
1. Russia 3x GOLD, 3x SILVER, 2x Bronze
2. Italy 2x GOLD, 1x SILVER, 1x Bronze
3. USA 2x GOLD, 0x SILVER, 0x Bronze
4. China 1x GOLD, 0x SILVER, 4x Bronze
5. England 1x GOLD, 0x SILVER, 2x Bronze
5. Kazakhstan 1x GOLD, 0x SILVER, 2x Bronze
7. Thailand 0x GOLD, 2x SILVER, 1x Bronze
7. Ukraine 0x GOLD, 2x SILVER, 1x Bronze
9. Uzbekistan 0x GOLD, 1x SILVER, 0x Bronze
9. Mongolia 0x GOLD, 1x SILVER, 0x Bronze
9. Philippines 0x GOLD, 1x SILVER, 0x Bronze
9. Venezuela 0x GOLD, 1x SILVER, 0x Bronze
13. Turkey 0x GOLD, 0x SILVER, 2x Bronze
13. France 0x GOLD, 0x SILVER, 2x Bronze
15. Azerbaijan 0x GOLD, 0x SILVER, 1x Bronze
15. Puerto Rico 0x GOLD, 0x SILVER, 1x Bronze
15. North Korea 0x GOLD, 0x SILVER, 1x Bronze
15. Japan 0x GOLD, 0x SILVER, 1x Bronze
15. Lithuania 0x GOLD, 0x SILVER, 1x Bronze

Medalists:
48 kg
GOLD Zou Shiming (China)
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SILVER Harry Tanamor (Philippines)
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Bronze Amnat Ruenroeng (Thailand)
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Bronze Nordine Oubaali (France)
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51 kg
GOLD Rau'shee ****** (USA)
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SILVER Somjit Jongjohor (Thailand)
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Bronze Vincenzo Picardi (Italy)
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Bronze Samir Mammadov (Azerbaijan)
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54 kg
GOLD Sergey Vodopyanov (Russia)
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SILVER Enkhbat Badar-Uugan (Mongolia)
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Bronze Joseph Murray (England)
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Bronze McJoe Arroyo (Puerto Rico)
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57 kg
GOLD Albert Selimov (Russia)
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SILVER Vasyl Lomachenko (Ukraine)
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Bronze Li Yang (China)
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Bronze Yakup Kilic (Turkey)
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60 kg
GOLD Frankie Gavin (England)
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SILVER Domenico Valentino (Italy)
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Bronze Alexey Tishchenko (Russia)
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Bronze Kim Song-Guk (North Korea)
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64 kg
GOLD Serik Sapiyev (Kazakhstan)
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SILVER Gennady Kovalev (Russia)
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Bronze Bradley Saunders (England)
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Bronze Kawachi Masatsuga (Japan)
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69 kg
GOLD Demetrius Andrade (USA)
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SILVER Manon Boonjumnong (Thailand)
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Bronze Hanati Silamu (China)
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Bronze Adem Kilicci (Turkey)
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75 kg
GOLD Matvey Korobov (Russia)
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SILVER Alfonso Blanco (Venezuela)
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Bronze Bakhtiyar Artayev (Kazakhstan)
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Bronze Sergiy Derevyanchenko (Ukraine)
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81 kg
GOLD Abbos Atoev (Uzbekistan)
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SILVER Artur Beterbiev (Russia)
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Bronze Yerekebuian Shynaliyev (Kazakhstan)
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Bronze Daugirdas Semiotas (Lithuania)
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91 kg
GOLD Clemente Russo (Italy)
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SILVER Rakhim Chakhkiev (Russia)
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Bronze John M'Bumba (France)
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Bronze Yushan Nijiati (China)
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+91 kg
GOLD Roberto Cammarelle (Italy)
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SILVER Vyacheslav GLazkov (Ukraine)
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Bronze lslam Timurziev (Russia)
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Bronze Zhang Zhilei (China)
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[giggigreto]

Cammarelle wins!!!!!

[NBT]

Cammarelle wins!!!!!
He deserved it, but nevertheless he got lucky this time. 2 walkover wins in the quarterfinal and semifinal and he didn't have to face Timurziev.
BTW From what I've seen Russo seems like a prick whereas Cammarelle seems like a nice guy. Is it just my imagination?

[giggigreto]

He deserved it, but nevertheless he got lucky this time. 2 walkover wins in the quarterfinal and semifinal and he didn't have to face Timurziev.
BTW From what I've seen Russo seems like a prick whereas Cammarelle seems like a nice guy. Is it just my imagination?

Word goes that Cammarelle is calm and down to heart
while Russo surely looks confident. He alternates flashes of brilliance to mediocrity. The girls ay he is goodlooking though :smooch

[Mendoza]

He deserved it, but nevertheless he got lucky this time. 2 walkover wins in the quarterfinal and semifinal and he didn't have to face Timurziev.
BTW From what I've seen Russo seems like a prick whereas Cammarelle seems like a nice guy. Is it just my imagination?

Cammarelle looks like a happy man in the photo. Now that he has won wolrd gold, I wonder what his plans are.


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Word goes that Cammarelle is calm and down to heart
while Russo surely looks confident. He alternates flashes of brilliance to mediocrity. The girls ay he is goodlooking though :smooch
:lol: Well, I don't know about that but I do know he should get a hair cut. :deal

Hmm, I just checked what Russo has done until now, he unbelievably sucked... In about every major senior tournament he participated in (may it be ECs, WCs, Olympics) he crashed out early. Either he has miraculously improved over night or he was just a very lucky SOB. Well, we'll see at the 2008 Olympics if he is a one hit wonder.

Cammarelle looks like a happy man in the photo. Now that he has won wolrd gold, I wonder what his plans are.
How about trying to get something at the Olympics? :huh

[giggigreto]

here's Russo's last punch for his 7-6 victory

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Russo has always been in the top 10 or 15 in these last years. This year he is peaking, he already had won a tournament - I don't remember which - in Europe as of early 2007, and now this!!!
nobody was expecting him to go that far, his target was qualifying for the Olympics, then he beats Povernov and the Russian, arguably 2 of the favourites with Alizade being the 3rd. And he handled the Chinese, the English and Povernov quite easily.
What can I say?? He is quite the definition of "stepping up one's game for the big occasion".

[Mendoza]

Nice stuff. Russo looks like a very moblie and agressive fighter.
Are there other links to the final matches?

[NBT]

What can I say?? He is quite the definition of "stepping up one's game for the big occasion".
I certainly disagree. This was his first moment to shine in like 6 years as a senior and as a HW, he has barely done anything of note on senior level. Russo has had some success on youth level as a WW but totally sucked on senior level as a LHW and HW until now. EC 2002 1st round loss, WCs 2003 2nd round loss, 2004 Olympics 1st round loss, 2005 WCs 1st round bye/2nd round loss, ECs 2006 3rd round loss (against Povernov). You see the picture? This is NOT what I would call "can step it up on a big occasion"... He has to prove in the future if this was just a one hit wonder, there were many others who won one big title and never amounted to anything ever again because they won based on lucky circumstances. I'm anxious to see what happens at the Olympics.

[Mendoza]

I certainly disagree. This was his first moment to shine in like 6 years as a senior and as a HW, he has barely done anything of note on senior level. Russo has had some success on youth level but totally sucked on senior level until now. EC 2002 1st round loss, WCs 2003 2nd round loss, 2004 Olympics 1st round loss, 2005 WCs 1st round bye/2nd round loss, ECs 2006 3rd round loss (against Povernov). You see the picture? This is NOT what I would call "can step it up on a big occasion"... He has to prove in the future if this was just a one hit wonder, there were many others who won one big title and never amounted to anything ever again because they won based on lucky circumstances. I'm anxious to see what happens at the Olympics.

The amateur 91K division is open does not appear to have a current clear cut #1 guy.

Super stars Alexevv and Solis have gone pro. Romanchuk is in limbo. The European champion who upset Romanchuk from the Ukraine lost on points in the tournament.

Russo proved he was the best. He's got some power, speed and mobility in him. Well—I’ve only see about a minute on Russo but that was my quick impression. It is possible that Russo put improved his game a bit. Sometimes fighters instantly get better once they become champion. It’s a mental thing.

[NBT]

Well, Poyatsika seems a bit like a mayfly as well, didn't stand out until the ECs at all and soon after his win at the EC he was stopped by one of the lesser Russians, Abukar Dzangiyev. That's why I say I reserve judgement until later. I remeber last year when some people went on about Poyatsika like he is the next best thing, etc. I've seen this often enough to know that one big win doesn't have to mean much, especially when you sucked before like Russo did, it's what you can consistantly do on world level that counts. So we'll see about that.

Hmm, Romanchuk doesn't really have anywhere to go except the pros now, Russias 91kg and +91kg fighters (Chakhkiev and Timurziev) are qualified for the Olympics so no reason for him to stick around at the amateurs.

[Super_Fly_Sam]

:twisted: :fire Why is there no pics of the Australians on the world boxing site

[Mendoza]

Hmm, Romanchuk doesn't really have anywhere to go except the pros now, Russias 91kg and +91kg fighters (Chakhkiev and Timurziev) are qualified for the Olympics so no reason for him to stick around at the amateurs.

Then it would make sense for Romanchuk to turn professional this year. There is no doubt he's got some good ability, and an exciting fighting style. Whoever signs Romanchuk can promote him as the man who beat Solis 2 of 3 times.

[razor]

Who is this light heavyweight champ who beat Beterbyev

[Artani]

:twisted: :fire Why is there no pics of the Australians on the world boxing site

Because they dident win nothing in Chicago, sorry. Same my comepatriots dident win nothing.

[Artani]

I can clamed this world championship was very sucesfull. I think amateur boxing coud be like before .

[Artani]

The star of the championship is Clemento Russo .

[Kolya]

The star of the championship is Clemento Russo .


:huh From the clips I saw on TV today, nothing was impressive about him. Solid heavyweight, not great though. Rau'shee ****** impressed me more fighting and winning after having two of his teeth knocked out by a headbutt; and Demetrius Andrade mauled the guy he fought.

[Artani]

:huh From the clips I saw on TV today, nothing was impressive about him. Solid heavyweight, not great though. Rau'shee ****** impressed me more fighting and winning after having two of his teeth knocked out by a headbutt; and Demetrius Andrade mauled the guy he fought.

I dident see them Kolya but i saw final match of Russo and was impresed from him. His power, energie, technic its unaff for one champion like Russo. I know that he can improve more but he wins world championship gold from second scene.

[Odo]

The star of the championship is Clemento Russo .



Why? He didnt look very impressive in the final winning gold.

[Odo]

Korobov should turn pro as well as some other members of the Russian squad.

Camarelle was lucky that he didnt have to face Islam.Otherwise he wouldnt have won gold.

[avk47]

Korobov should turn pro as well as some other members of the Russian squad.

Camarelle was lucky that he didnt have to face Islam.Otherwise he wouldnt have won gold.

They should do the olympics first. Then go pro.

Romanchuk should turn pro now. He wont go to the olympics so...
Timurziev - his health seems unclear. Would make a great pro if he sorted it out.
Chakhiev... don't consider him top flight, although he has a nice pro style.
Tischenko - win the olympics and go pro. However, not sure that's what he wants to do. He's involved in politics and other stuff so he might be aiming to be a career amateur, and then to use his reputation as an athlete when he turns over. He'd be amazing though.
Vodopyanov - will be exciting. He's only 19 and should stay amateur and win some medals!
Beterbiev - awesome pro prospect. Was surprised he lost to the Uzbek. Should stay to win the olympics.

[geppy]

Congratulations to Italy on their Two new HW Champions of the World.

WTF happend to Timurziev?

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Noone who is qualified or still has the chance to qualify for the Olympics will turn pro before that. The Olympics are what it's all about, this is what they wait and work for for 4 years.
WTF happend to Timurziev?
Read the thread, appendicitis.

[geppy]

Noone who is qualified or still has the chance to qualify for the Olympics will turn pro before that. The Olympics are what it's all about, this is what they wait and work for for 4 years.

Read the thread, appendicitis.

WTF happend, jesus christ. I am not going threw 15 pages and 221 fucking posts to find the result. I was screening trhew about 8-10 pages looking and didnt see it, so what hapend? I am asking for a quick explanation , not a fucking 5 page term paper, so chill out.

What happend to Islam?

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Well, I don't think it's that hard to search the thread for the Name Timurziev. :yep
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Well, I don't think it's that hard to search the thread for the Name Timurziev. :yep
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I apologize for the outburst. I am not too happy with that shit happening to Islam. I was sure he was going to win.

[geppy]

Here is some nice photos on the new World Champion.

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[giggigreto]

Korobov should turn pro as well as some other members of the Russian squad.

Camarelle was lucky that he didnt have to face Islam.Otherwise he wouldnt have won gold.

In italy we say that absentees are always wrong.
Italians were in amazing physical form throughout the tournament, 4 medals out of 6 partecipants, the highest ratio of all nations I think, and we've seen that russians are not undefeatable like in this forum they are made out to be.
Timurziev isn't exactly the most mobile fighter, although powerful, and Cammarelle knows how to outbox a shorter foe.
It seems that the new policies of the AIBA regarding misjudging and alleged corruption are bearing fruits. We don't always see the same central asian\east european guys winning. Countries like usa, italy or england, or say venezuela, who have always produced capable boxers, suddenly don't suffer suspect defeats like it was in the past.

Until the final, Russo won all his matches with a gap that runs from 18 to 8 points, and his way to the final was no easier than chakhiev' one. In the match against Chakiev he recovered from a 3-6 at the end of the 3rd round to win 7-6, which is no small feat, since in this tournaments there were very few come-from-behind victories. This result shows Russo's strenght of character, intelligence and adaptability.
Couple thus the thriumph march to the final, the remarkable victory coming from behind in the final, with the fact that no one was awaiting him to boom like this, he was a complete outsider, and you surely have here one of the strongest protagonists of the tournament

[Toney]

Timurziev pretty easilly beat Cammarelle a year ago in the European championships. Knocked him down and all. What happened to Timurziev now? Why did he not fight in the semifinals?

I am very suprised that Russo won gold medal. He must be much better than I thought! :good

[avk47]

In italy we say that absentees are always wrong.
Italians were in amazing physical form throughout the tournament, 4 medals out of 6 partecipants, the highest ratio of all nations I think, and we've seen that russians are not undefeatable like in this forum they are made out to be.
Timurziev isn't exactly the most mobile fighter, although powerful, and Cammarelle knows how to outbox a shorter foe.
It seems that the new policies of the AIBA regarding misjudging and alleged corruption are bearing fruits. We don't always see the same central asian\east european guys winning. Countries like usa, italy or england, or say venezuela, who have always produced capable boxers, suddenly don't suffer suspect defeats like it was in the past.

Until the final, Russo won all his matches with a gap that runs from 18 to 8 points, and his way to the final was no easier than chakhiev' one. In the match against Chakiev he recovered from a 3-6 at the end of the 3rd round to win 7-6, which is no small feat, since in this tournaments there were very few come-from-behind victories. This result shows Russo's strenght of character, intelligence and adaptability.
Couple thus the thriumph march to the final, the remarkable victory coming from behind in the final, with the fact that no one was awaiting him to boom like this, he was a complete outsider, and you surely have here one of the strongest protagonists of the tournament

Timurziev beat Camarelle quite easily when they fought...

And are you making the claim that past Russian victories were because of currupt judges? Past Russian victories were because of good boxers, and plenty of bad decisions have gone against Russians as well! I'm happy countries like England, Italy, USA have performed well. I also think many of the RUssian guys underpeformed, with guys like Timurziev getting sick, Tischenko - still need to see that fights, etc, Beterbiev.

Those guys will be back.

And congradulations to Italy for an amazing performance!