Top 5 Punchers at Lightweight...

[WhataRock]

The order or even limiting the names to 5 isnt important but I just wanted some names from people who they feel are the hardest hitters from 135.

Where do guys like Lew Jenkins, Rodolfo Gonzalez, Dave Holly and Ike Williams factor in?

Who are some guys other than the usual suspects?

[Addie]

Mosley has been knocking guys out 2-3 divisions north. He hit very, very hard indeed as a Lightweight.

[WhataRock]

I actually sort of disagree with that assessment Addie...though Shane deserves a shout.

Sitting down and watching his lightweight fights I saw more a man who held almost comical physical advantages over his opposition in terms of speed, size and strength...at times I gotta say he sometimes labored to put away guys he dominated from a pretty early point in the fight.

I tend to think the advantages Shane held over those guys I mentioned before played just as an important role as his power..which was pretty impressive still.

[SuzieQ49]

Oscar De La Hoya

[anarci]

I actually sort of disagree with that assessment Addie...though Shane deserves a shout.

Sitting down and watching his lightweight fights I saw more a man who held almost comical physical advantages over his opposition in terms of speed, size and strength...at times I gotta say he sometimes labored to put away guys he dominated from a pretty early point in the fight.

I tend to think the advantages Shane held over those guys I mentioned before played just as an important role as his power..which was pretty impressive still. I agree with You rock, Mosley was a good puncher but he wasnt a big bomber like others i have seen at this weight. In fact PFP i think Shane is hitting at least as hard at Welter as he did at LW.

Biggest punching Lightweight in the last 30 years have been Rosario,Arguello,Gannigan,ODLH not so sure after that lot of guys have an argument for that 5th spot. Jose L Ramirez,Tracy Spann ,Gato Gonzalez and i have the feeling im forgetting about a couple of other big punchers.

[ricardinho]

I agree with You rock, Mosley was a good puncher but he wasnt a big bomber like others i have seen at this weight. In fact PFP i think Shane is hitting at least as hard at Welter as he did at LW.

Biggest punching Lightweight in the last 30 years have been Rosario,Arguello,Gannigan,ODLH not so sure after that lot of guys have an argument for that 5th spot. Jose L Ramirez,Tracy Spann ,Gato Gonzalez and i have the feeling im forgetting about a couple of other big punchers.

You have to include Carlos Gonzalez he hits hard...real hard

[sweet_scientist]

I won't come up with my 5, but these 16 guys are in contention imo:

Freddie Pendleton
Roger Mayweather
Aaron Pryor
Jose Napoles
Oscar de la Hoya
Edwin Rosario
Ike Williams
Alexis Arguello
Benny Leonard
Jose Luis Ramirez
Roberto Duran
Joe Gans
Henry Armstrong
Julio Cesar Chavez
Billy Petrolle
Carlos Ortiz

[PowerPuncher]

Composite or power? Corrales had a shit load of power, not the biggest

Sugar Ray Robinson

[anarci]

You have to include Carlos Gonzalez he hits hard...real hard Bollilo did most of his work at JW, but i agree he was a big puncher.

[anarci]

COrrales was a good shout out, i would rate him as a bigger puncher than SOME of the guys mentioned.
Only one person mentioned DURAN?????

Last 30 years
Rosario
Arguello
Gannigan
Delahoya
Ramirez-Corrales-Gato Gonzalez

Before that
Ike Wiliams
Rodolfo Gonzalez
Roberto Duran
Lew Jenkins
Billy Petrolle
Al Bummy Davis
Charley White
Pedro Montanez
Esteban Dejesus
Chango Carmona

[PowerPuncher]

Manny Pacquiao, Valero

[Son of Gaul]

The order or even limiting the names to 5 isnt important but I just wanted some names from people who they feel are the hardest hitters from 135.

Where do guys like Lew Jenkins, Rodolfo Gonzalez, Dave Holly and Ike Williams factor in?

Who are some guys other than the usual suspects?

Duran, Mosley, Corrales...

[Son of Gaul]

Hearns began his career as a LW...

[bodhi]

Jenkins and Williams standout imo. Fitzsimmons fought as a lighweight, so you could include him.

[JohnThomas1]

Rosario is an absolute shoe in.

[Dempsey1238]

I won't come up with my 5, but these 16 guys are in contention imo:

Freddie Pendleton
Roger Mayweather
Aaron Pryor
Jose Napoles
Oscar de la Hoya
Edwin Rosario
Ike Williams
Alexis Arguello
Benny Leonard
Jose Luis Ramirez
Roberto Duran
Joe Gans
Henry Armstrong
Julio Cesar Chavez
Billy Petrolle
Carlos Ortiz


No Jenkins??

[TommyV]

I wouldn't know where to begin with a top 5, but the first name that sprung to mind was Ike.

[JohnThomas1]

If we are talking pure power then the not exactly reknowned Andy Ganigan comes into the debate as some have stated. He just hasn't got much substance resume wise.

[burt bienstock]

In terms of one punch power....
Young Otto....record for 1 rd kos
Benny Leonard-great 2 hand puncher
Charlie White-great left hook artist
Ruby Goldstein-Floored almost everyone he hit-Glass chin
Al Bummy Davis-hardest left hook I ever saw-kod Mongomery in one
Ike Williams-vicious 2 hand puncher-uncuffed

[sweet_scientist]

No Jenkins??

Probably deserves a nod before someone like Ramirez if I'm being honest.

[Vockerman]

Pure power - not resume or delivery system



Billy Petrolle
Roberto Duran
Edwin Rosario
Andy Ganigan
Edwin Valero


would be my picks strictly for lightweights - there are some I rate at other (close) weights that might deserve a place...
Like Henry Armstrong

[burt bienstock]

Addendum...
Lew Jenkins-murderous skinny right hand puncher
Robert Duran-pocketform Dempsey

[Drew101]

Could throw Charley White into the discussion. Same with Tony Canzoneri and Jimmy McLarnin.

[Minotauro]

In terms of pure power I'd put Rosario right up there.

[anarci]

In terms of pure power I'd put Rosario right up there.:goodGood pick. I also like Arguellos power.

[GPater11093]

Petrolle is an odd one IMO. He dosent strike me as someone who you would call a great pucnher. To me he was a strong puncher who would look to wear you down with pressure and body work but not really a big puncher in his own right. Maybe someone could disagree with me and explain why they have picked him?

[WhataRock]

Petrolle is someone I consider aswell Greg but I thought his numbers were a tad deceiving at first glance..call it ignorance, as Im not all that familiar with him but his Ko percentage seemed a little inflated because a lot of his knockouts came against his lesser opposition.

Ill admit I didnt look at it throughly but it seemed the better opponents he fought and beat went the rounds with him. And coincidentally I found an article claiming Berg was sick for the fight Petrolle stopped him in.

He is certainly a puncher but how big compared to the other mentioned I dont know.

[GPater11093]

Petrolle is someone I consider aswell Greg but I thought his numbers were a tad deceiving at first glance..call it ignorance, as Im not all that familiar with him but his Ko percentage seemed a little inflated because a lot of his knockouts came against his lesser opposition.

Ill admit I didnt look at it throughly but it seemed the better opponents he fought and beat went the rounds with him. And coincidentally I found an article claiming Berg was sick for the fight Petrolle stopped him in.

He is certainly a puncher but how big compared to the other mentioned I dont know.

To me on film he looks a strong wear you down puncher, not what I would call a 'top 5 puncher'. Think Carmen Basilio type.

Although you could argue that him going rounds against the better opponents Canzoneri, Berg etc... is due to them being the level above him, and not due to his lack of power.