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Slicknick56
10-10-2007, 12:35 AM
Kessler is an overall much better boxer imo. he has more power, more technical with his punches, places his punches better and even has better footwork and defense. I dont see Calzaghe winning this fight at all. I see Kessler winning it by UD.

Amsterdam
10-10-2007, 12:37 AM
Try again.

chimba
10-10-2007, 12:37 AM
Actually I dont see Joe losing... I see Kessler, I follow Bute..Bute's better than Kess. Ill be shocked

Slicknick56
10-10-2007, 12:39 AM
Try again.

:lol: im not saying Calzaghe is bad, but what makes you think hes gonna beat Kessler? can we be serious for a second?

Fab2333
10-10-2007, 12:41 AM
Try again.
we shoulda knew that rebuttal was coming

Amsterdam
10-10-2007, 12:48 AM
:lol: im not saying Calzaghe is bad, but what makes you think hes gonna beat Kessler? can we be serious for a second?

Let's see -

- Kessler is only a workable inside fighter, his inside D is not his specialty.

- He's open to being exploited for tenativeness under fire, bad stylistic flaw against Calzaghe.

- He's open to awkward angles.

- Kessler refuses to trade, he will HAVE to take a few to land his best against Joe.

- A consistent workrate, mixed with speed, shows a bad style for him, shown from Mundine and shown from how Andrade stalled him up at times.

- He can be bullied, he has no strength advantage over Calzaghe, who is tremendously strong for the weight.

- If he's not controlling the pace, he's not at his best, who's controlled the pace against Calzaghe effectively?

- Footspeed goes to Calzaghe's favour

- A gameplan to win is much easier for Calzaghe than Kessler, see above.

There. Kessler is a class A fighter, will defeat most fighters, just not awkward speed demons. A fast boxer type like Dawson, who's more orthodox, is a much easier fight for him than this nightmare styles match up.

Try again.:yep

sues2nd
10-10-2007, 01:43 AM
Kessler is an overall much better boxer imo. he has more power, more technical with his punches, places his punches better and even has better footwork and defense. I dont see Calzaghe winning this fight at all. I see Kessler winning it by UD.

Kessler is a better boxer than Joe? That is hilarious.

:lol:

jammerdk
10-10-2007, 01:58 AM
Well Joe's a smart fighter ....I'll going with "it's going to be close fight"

All depends on how effectively Kesslers Jab is going to be on resetting Joe.

Make no mistake Joe and Kessler is up for their biggest fight yet in every aspect!!!

jammerdk
10-10-2007, 02:01 AM
Kessler is a better boxer than Joe? That is hilarious.

:lol:

Hard to say who's the better boxer (different styles)........but he sure is more Clean!!!

Shev
10-10-2007, 02:02 AM
I think Calzaghe wins this easier than most expect, Calzaghe has got his own awkward style that nobody has figured out how to deal with. Conversely, Kessler is very European with his style which we have seen many times before.

Kessler is basically a jab/cross/circle fighter who likes to fight at a distance and keep a high guard. I'm pretty sure Calzaghe is going to fight on the inside and befuddle Kessler with blinding combos and get an easier that expected decision.

jammerdk
10-10-2007, 02:10 AM
I think Calzaghe wins this easier than most expect, Calzaghe has got his own awkward style that nobody has figured out how to deal with. Conversely, Kessler is very European with his style which we have seen many times before.

Kessler is basically a jab/cross/circle fighter who likes to fight at a distance and keep a high guard. I'm pretty sure Calzaghe is going to fight on the inside and befuddle Kessler with blinding combos and get an easier that expected decision.

Hhhmmm he have to get in there :rofl to box on the inside and Kessler isn't going to stay toe to toe.

I don't say it can't be done but to say it's going to be easy well then I think you might have to check a few more of Kessler's fights.

Shev
10-10-2007, 02:22 AM
Hhhmmm he have to get in there :rofl to box on the inside and Kessler isn't going to stay toe to toe.

I don't say it can't be done but to say it's going to be easy well then I think you might have to check a few more of Kessler's fights.

I already stated that Kessler circles effectively but his footwork is nowhere close to Calzaghes, If Calzaghe wants on the inside then he'll get there with his speed/reflexes.

I didn't say it would be an easy fight just not as close as most are expecting. I believe that Calzaghe will win a clear unanimous decision and not injure his hands, thats all.

Slicknick56
10-10-2007, 02:25 AM
wtf since when was Calzaghe such a god to you guys? Kessler is a better boxer period. Calzaghe has struggled with class C and B fighters. what makes you think hes gonna beat Kessler? Kessler is just as strong, jsut as big as Calzaghe. All of a sudden you guys think Calzaghe is Bernard Hopkins.

jammerdk
10-10-2007, 02:34 AM
I already stated that Kessler circles effectively but his footwork is nowhere close to Calzaghes, If Calzaghe wants on the inside then he'll get there with his speed/reflexes.

I didn't say it would be an easy fight just not as close as most are expecting. I believe that Calzaghe will win a clear unanimous decision and not injure his hands, thats all.

HHmmm so let me get it right ....all hangs on Joe's speed? (dealt fine with Mundine's speed)

Kessler isn't the slowest fighter you know :huh ...Joe might find it hard to get it there without getting tagged. :bbb

But I do agree that the fight will be an issue on who's getting their workplan to work first.

Shev
10-10-2007, 02:48 AM
HHmmm so let me get it right ....all hangs on Joe's speed? (dealt fine with Mundine's speed)

Kessler isn't the slowest fighter you know :huh ...Joe might find it hard to get it there without getting tagged. :bbb

But I do agree that the fight will be an issue on who's getting their workplan to work first.

You left out reflexes, I believe speed and reflexes negate Kesslers wooden style. Speed gets him inside to go to work and reflexes helps him avoid some of Kesslers punches. I also don't believe that Mundine's speed and quality can be compared to Calzaghes.

Amsterdam
10-10-2007, 02:52 AM
wtf since when was Calzaghe such a god to you guys? Kessler is a better boxer period. Calzaghe has struggled with class C and B fighters. what makes you think hes gonna beat Kessler? Kessler is just as strong, jsut as big as Calzaghe. All of a sudden you guys think Calzaghe is Bernard Hopkins.

Since when does Calzaghe get considered to Bernard Hopkin's lower standing?:yep

maciek4
10-10-2007, 02:53 AM
Kessler has one advantage that people dont seem to notice, his youth, he is 28 while Calzaghe is 35. Of course Calzaghe hasnt shown any signs of getting old but he is on the decline IMO. I think this fight is going to be very close and wil go the distance.

Jose FM
10-10-2007, 02:58 AM
Let's see -

- Kessler is only a workable inside fighter, his inside D is not his specialty.

- He's open to being exploited for tenativeness under fire, bad stylistic flaw against Calzaghe.

- He's open to awkward angles.

- Kessler refuses to trade, he will HAVE to take a few to land his best against Joe.

- A consistent workrate, mixed with speed, shows a bad style for him, shown from Mundine and shown from how Andrade stalled him up at times.

- He can be bullied, he has no strength advantage over Calzaghe, who is tremendously strong for the weight.

- If he's not controlling the pace, he's not at his best, who's controlled the pace against Calzaghe effectively?

- Footspeed goes to Calzaghe's favour

- A gameplan to win is much easier for Calzaghe than Kessler, see above.

There. Kessler is a class A fighter, will defeat most fighters, just not awkward speed demons. A fast boxer type like Dawson, who's more orthodox, is a much easier fight for him than this nightmare styles match up.

Try again.:yep
:lol:
Maybe you didnt see the Bika fight?

- Calzaghe is given wayyy too much credit for his so-called boxing skills, when in reality hes a mad slapper who hit Lacy a 1000 times and barely got a 12th round KD.

- Calzaghe (as all south paws) is very vulnable to the straight right and leaves his right way to low for a sharp puncher like Kessler to hit his mark all night.

- Footspeed does go to Calzaghe favor, but Calzaghe has no patience and once Kessler peppers him with a clean punch, speed wont be necesary as Calzaghe will try to brawl with Kessler, and at 35 i dont see how a brawl would benefit Joe.

- Kessler has no inside D? I dont see much D from Calzaghe either. If anything I see Kessler putting his punches together a lot better than Joe.

- Calzaghe is not extreme strong for 168, so i dont see your logic here.:huh

- Calzaghe's victory over Lacy does not say much about this fight, Lacy was Tailor made stylistically. Lacy was Naturally smaller (althought wider), slow, didnt set up punches very well, was a bit wild, and after a couple of rounds was going for the KO. Kessler is a smarter fighter, sets his punches up better, and will be too much for Calzaghe.

- Calzaghe's 0 will go.

Amsterdam
10-10-2007, 03:06 AM
:lol:
Maybe you didnt see the Bika fight?


Watched it about 10 times. I chew the roots of the Iboga while watching Calzaghe fights, it expands my knowledge of boxing.:good

Maybe you didn't understand the preparation for the Bika fight, which is fine.

- Calzaghe is given wayyy too much credit for his so-called boxing skills, when in reality hes a mad slapper who hit Lacy a 1000 times and barely got a 12th round KD.

This is not even a good point.

- Calzaghe (as all south paws) is very vulnable to the straight right and leaves his right way to low for a sharp puncher like Kessler to hit his mark all night.

Calzaghe's open to a timed overhand right, such as what Roy Jones Jr. and Bernard Hopkins utilise a lot. He's not open to a straight right set up from a jab, which is what Kessler produces.


- Footspeed does go to Calzaghe favor, but Calzaghe has no patience and once Kessler peppers him with a clean punch, speed wont be necesary as Calzaghe will try to brawl with Kessler, and at 35 i dont see how a brawl would benefit Joe.


At 35 he will be in the same condition he was for Lacy, where he was 34. How is a brawl going to benefit a guy who cannot stand to trade and who becomes tenatative under fire and workrate stylistically?

A boxing match benefits Kessler, an inside fight/brawl benefits Joe.


- Kessler has no inside D? I dont see much D from Calzaghe either. If anything I see Kessler putting his punches together a lot better than Joe.


He throws the straighter punches, but generally Calzaghe is very accurate and uses fantastic natural timing. Calzaghe has a fantastic defence, mostly comes from lateral movement and footspeed, I've never seen him hit with a combination on film, normally just single shots.

Calzaghe rarely gets tagged inside, he's a wizard on the inside.


- Calzaghe is not extreme strong for 168, so i dont see your logic here.:huh


Then why has nobody ever outmuscled him? Even stronger guys than Kessler. Do you really follow the SMW division mate?

Doesn't seem like it. Mundine was actually stronger than Kessler, Calzaghe is much stronger than Mundine, do the math.



- Calzaghe's victory over Lacy does not say much about this fight, Lacy was Tailor made stylistically. Lacy was Naturally smaller (althought wider), slow, didnt set up punches very well, was a bit wild, and after a couple of rounds was going for the KO. Kessler is a smarter fighter, sets his punches up better, and will be too much for Calzaghe.


A guy like Kessler is equally made for Calzaghe, as Kessler needs to control the fight to do any effective work, Calzaghe's style is all about disrupting a gameplan, it will especially work here and I have stated the reasons on the first page why it will do so.

Lacy was setting up punches fine intially, however, his entire gameplan was broken in the early rounds and he was annihilated down the stretch in one of the worst beatdowns of all time.


- Calzaghe's 0 will go.


And if it doesn't?:yep

Jose FM
10-10-2007, 03:12 AM
Watched it about 10 times. I chew the roots of the Iboga while watching Calzaghe fights, it expands my knowledge of boxing.:good

Maybe you didn't understand the preparation for the Bika fight, which is fine.



This is not even a good point.



Calzaghe's open to a timed overhand right, such as what Roy Jones Jr. and Bernard Hopkins utilise a lot. He's not open to a straight right set up from a jab, which is what Kessler produces.



At 35 he will be in the same condition he was for Lacy, where he was 34. How is a brawl going to benefit a guy who cannot stand to trade and who becomes tenatative under fire and workrate stylistically?

A boxing match benefits Kessler, an inside fight/brawl benefits Joe.



He throws the straighter punches, but generally Calzaghe is very accurate and uses fantastic natural timing. Calzaghe has a fantastic defence, mostly comes from lateral movement and footspeed, I've never seen him hit with a combination on film, normally just single shots.

Calzaghe rarely gets tagged inside, he's a wizard on the inside.


Then why has nobody ever outmuscled him? Even stronger guys than Kessler. Do you really follow the SMW division mate?

Doesn't seem like it. Mundine was actually stronger than Kessler, Calzaghe is much stronger than Mundine, do the math.




A guy like Kessler is equally made for Calzaghe, as Kessler needs to control the fight to do any effective work, Calzaghe's style is all about disrupting a gameplan, it will especially work here and I have stated the reasons on the first page why it will do so.

Lacy was setting up punches fine intially, however, his entire gameplan was broken in the early rounds and he was annihilated down the stretch in one of the worst beatdowns of all time.



And if it doesn't?:yep
:asskiss:asskiss:asskiss:asskiss:asskiss:asskiss:asskiss:asskiss:asskiss

Amsterdam
10-10-2007, 03:15 AM
:asskiss:asskiss:asskiss:asskiss:asskiss:asskiss:asskiss:asskiss:asskiss

I'm not the one acting like a person who just escaped from the nuthouse mate. Do you really doubt Joe Calzaghe?

Jose FM
10-10-2007, 03:20 AM
I'm not the one acting like a person who just escaped from the nuthouse mate. Do you really doubt Joe Calzaghe?
:lol: Sorry just had to put those icons up...

Anyways, i dont think Joe will beat Kessler. Kessler will be too young, too strong, too accurate for Joe to beat. Itll be a sad day for the brits as their hero will be retired by Kessler.

Shev
10-10-2007, 03:30 AM
It appears logic isn't welcome in this thread, Calzaghe's a stylist with a natural flow to his boxing, Kessler is a monotonous robot who just keeps reloading and repeating the same punches over and over whilst circling like a dog trying to bite its tail.

jammerdk
10-10-2007, 03:41 AM
It appears logic isn't welcome in this thread, Calzaghe's a stylist with a natural flow to his boxing, Kessler is a monotonous robot who just keeps reloading and repeating the same punches over and over whilst circling like a dog trying to bite its tail. :patschHappy slapping that's called natural flow???

Kessler might be a robot but then it's a Terminator ;)

Shev
10-10-2007, 03:48 AM
Well the terminators going to be terminated. Or at least be made to look like Johnny 5.

jammerdk
10-10-2007, 03:56 AM
Well the terminators going to be terminated. Or at least be made to look like Johnny 5.

:lol:

well something you might take in mind ...if he's been Robot in your term that maybe because he hasn't been in a situation where's he haven't forced to change he's gamplan.

I believe he's able to change his gameplan if it's needed and that is another reason why I think Joe's in for a surprise. (he knows he's fighting on Joe's homeground and he have to finish the job)

jammerdk
10-10-2007, 04:39 AM
Did you know that Joe used to have the nickname "The Terminator"?

No acutally I didn't .....

:huh and then people keep telling Kessler is the Robotic fighter ;)

Shake
10-10-2007, 04:59 AM
It surprises me there are such split opinions on Calzaghe. His extraordinary talent is obvious to me from just watching him on film. For all intents and purposes, he is an aged prodigy, meant to be a champion from the moment he first laced up boxing gloves.

mattress
10-10-2007, 07:30 AM
Why does boxing attract such limp minded fuckers? 'Kessler is a better boxer than Calzaghe'!!!!!!!! What a fucking comedian.

bill poster
10-10-2007, 07:46 AM
Let's see -

- Kessler is only a workable inside fighter, his inside D is not his specialty.

- He's open to being exploited for tenativeness under fire, bad stylistic flaw against Calzaghe.

- He's open to awkward angles.

- Kessler refuses to trade, he will HAVE to take a few to land his best against Joe.

- A consistent workrate, mixed with speed, shows a bad style for him, shown from Mundine and shown from how Andrade stalled him up at times.

- He can be bullied, he has no strength advantage over Calzaghe, who is tremendously strong for the weight.

- If he's not controlling the pace, he's not at his best, who's controlled the pace against Calzaghe effectively?

- Footspeed goes to Calzaghe's favour

- A gameplan to win is much easier for Calzaghe than Kessler, see above.

There. Kessler is a class A fighter, will defeat most fighters, just not awkward speed demons. A fast boxer type like Dawson, who's more orthodox, is a much easier fight for him than this nightmare styles match up.

Try again.:yep

All true but JC is looking OLD

His last 2 fights just glossed over it

I think its going to be a long night for Joe, hopefully he can finish Kessler off in the middle rds but i doubt it

AllyT
10-10-2007, 08:01 AM
I think Kessler is being vastly overrated by his fans and by those with an irrational dislike of Calzaghe. Kessler is a good technical boxer and he has a bat but he is not going to cope either with Calzaghe's workrate or ring smarts. This should be a fairly easy victory for the Welshman.

warrior85
10-10-2007, 08:09 AM
i think calzaghe wins.i see joe sidestepping to the right to avoid kesslers straight right&hitting him with fast combinations,i think kessler will have his moments in the fight but i see joe grinding him down for a 10th rnd stoppage.this will be a great fight cant wait for it.

Korn_06
10-10-2007, 08:42 AM
Someone said this was all true, but I dont get it.

Let's see -

- Kessler is only a workable inside fighter, his inside D is not his specialty.

In fact I am not too sure what this means, but NO - his inside game is not his speciality, but does that mean it is that bad? because I dont think anybody really knows.

- He's open to being exploited for tenativeness under fire, bad stylistic flaw against Calzaghe.

So now he is "open" how did you figure this out?
Kessler has very good defence and if he hesitates it is not because he is getting hit flush.

- He's open to awkward angles.
What a statement!! How did you figure this - or should I say, who on earth isn't???

- Kessler refuses to trade, he will HAVE to take a few to land his best against Joe.

Kessler is a cautious fighter, I am sure if he was real macho trader you would find a way to make that a shortcomming as well. Kessler prefers delivering 3 getting hit by 0 to delivering 5 getting hit by 2. Anyway he was wiling to trade with Andrade in his most recent fight. I think the Mundine fight he was the most cautious. Mostly however it is the opponent who doesn't want to trade with Kessler.

- A consistent workrate, mixed with speed, shows a bad style for him, shown from Mundine and shown from how Andrade stalled him up at times.
Consistent workrate and speed I would feel describe Kesslers style well.

- He can be bullied, he has no strength advantage over Calzaghe, who is tremendously strong for the weight.
Another amazing statement!!! How on earth did you come across this information???

- If he's not controlling the pace, he's not at his best, who's controlled the pace against Calzaghe effectively?
Who's controlled the pace against Kessler?? And who is at his best when the opponent controlls the pace, this statement was another waste of words.

- Footspeed goes to Calzaghe's favour
Yes if he still has it, he didn't against Bika and he didn't against Manfredo, anyone can look fast against Lacy.

- A gameplan to win is much easier for Calzaghe than Kessler, see above.
Kessler will be more fluent in this fight than he was against others, he will throw a lot of straight rights and left jabs, he will use uppercuts and hooks on the inside. Very basic. He will win because he has power in every single punch, quite to the contrary of Calzaghe. Calzaghe is arkward but that is also one of his biggest strengths.

There. Kessler is a class A fighter, will defeat most fighters, just not awkward speed demons. A fast boxer type like Dawson, who's more orthodox, is a much easier fight for him than this nightmare styles match up.

Try again.:yep

Try again :rofl

Korn_06
10-10-2007, 08:45 AM
Why does boxing attract such limp minded fuckers? 'Kessler is a better boxer than Calzaghe'!!!!!!!! What a fucking comedian.

I guess you qualify as a boxing fan then.

HolgerD
10-10-2007, 09:28 AM
:lol:
Maybe you didnt see the Bika fight?

- Calzaghe is given wayyy too much credit for his so-called boxing skills, when in reality hes a mad slapper who hit Lacy a 1000 times and barely got a 12th round KD.

- Calzaghe (as all south paws) is very vulnable to the straight right and leaves his right way to low for a sharp puncher like Kessler to hit his mark all night.

- Footspeed does go to Calzaghe favor, but Calzaghe has no patience and once Kessler peppers him with a clean punch, speed wont be necesary as Calzaghe will try to brawl with Kessler, and at 35 i dont see how a brawl would benefit Joe.

- Kessler has no inside D? I dont see much D from Calzaghe either. If anything I see Kessler putting his punches together a lot better than Joe.

- Calzaghe is not extreme strong for 168, so i dont see your logic here.:huh

- Calzaghe's victory over Lacy does not say much about this fight, Lacy was Tailor made stylistically. Lacy was Naturally smaller (althought wider), slow, didnt set up punches very well, was a bit wild, and after a couple of rounds was going for the KO. Kessler is a smarter fighter, sets his punches up better, and will be too much for Calzaghe.

- Calzaghe's 0 will go.



....and what makes this post even better is that it is easily supported by clips or PROOF if you like. All the JC-nuthuggers exaggerations is plain annoying. How the heck do you come up with all that BS without any actual examples showing your wild postulates. Come on, give some references to fight moments where we can actually see that JC is faster than the speed of light.....that he gets stronger with age....that his chin is Titanium......and his strength dwarfs Hercules....etc.

boxfan99
10-10-2007, 11:33 AM
:huh

Calzaghe's hands are a lot faster than Kessler's, he's got a much better variety of punches, his footwork is better, he's much more fluid and throws so many damn punches.

I'll give Kessler credit, he's got a nice 1-2 but you're not going to beat Calzaghe with just a 1-2.

So you are literally saying that if Kessler beats Calzaghe, then Calzaghe is kind of an overrated/overprotected bum? Seeing that he got beaten by a guy with a nice 1-2 and not much else in his favour.:hey

mattress
10-10-2007, 11:50 AM
He ain't gonna win...even if he wins.

Clearly Cool
10-10-2007, 01:39 PM
A lot of the Kessler detractors are making assumptions based on what they ASSUME is the case.

Kessler is a bad inside fighter??? When have you ever seen him getting chopped up on the inside. I think the lack of inside fighting in his fights is a testament to his boxing ability.

Kessler is open to akward angles??? His stlye may seem like that, but what evidence have you got that shows him gettting beatnen up by akward punches. Andrade is alot slower than Calzaghe, but Kessler had very little trouble defending his shots (and he throws from very akward angles!)

Also Amsterdam, you have said a number of times that Kessler prefers to throw his right hand after a jab, fair call, but I can recall a number of times he has throw the right as a lead. In fact, even if he did throw the jab first, he will still throw the right regardless if the jab lands, so doesnt that make it more dangerous?

Basically I think Kessler will win, but am aware Calzaghe poses a serious threat and there is a distinct possibility that he will win.

The only negative thing you could point out in his performances, was Mundine having some success with fainting and speed. Thats why I have an issue with that earlier poster insulting people who favoured Kessler. At this point in his career he has shown so much more dominance and skill than anyone I have ever seen in a long time.

I think its understandable that people are hyping him up.

By the way, does anyone think Calzaghe will actually stop Kessler? Even if this turned into a slugfest, Calzaghe hasnt KO'd or stopped (legitimately) a good opponent in AGES, which means he will likly have to box off for a decision, which means he will have to avoid Kesslers power for 12 rounds (and if hes winning big he'll have to avoid a desperate Kessler).

If Calzaghe wins this fight I will consider him a living legend and i'll become a HUGE fan. I will even stand up to his detractors and argue till im blue in the face.

boxfan99
10-10-2007, 01:52 PM
If Calzaghe wins this fight I will consider him a living legend and i'll become a HUGE fan. I will even stand up to his detractors and argue till im blue in the face.

Watch what you are saying. What if Calzaghe gets handed a hometown decision a la Ottke and afterwards refuses to give Kessler a rematch?
It is actually a likely scenario I'm afraid.

Clearly Cool
10-10-2007, 02:06 PM
Watch what you are saying. What if Calzaghe gets handed a hometown decision a la Ottke and afterwards refuses to give Kessler a rematch?
It is actually a likely scenario I'm afraid.

Even if its close enough that he can be given a decision then i'll stand by my claim. But if he gets clearly thrashed and gets a gift then I won't go through with it.

For him to have a hard fight at 35, against what I would imagine to be a prime Kessler then he deserves massive credit.

Astola
10-10-2007, 02:25 PM
A lot of the Kessler detractors are making assumptions based on what they ASSUME is the case.

Kessler is a bad inside fighter??? When have you ever seen him getting chopped up on the inside. I think the lack of inside fighting in his fights is a testament to his boxing ability.

Kessler is open to akward angles??? His stlye may seem like that, but what evidence have you got that shows him gettting beatnen up by akward punches. Andrade is alot slower than Calzaghe, but Kessler had very little trouble defending his shots (and he throws from very akward angles!)

Also Amsterdam, you have said a number of times that Kessler prefers to throw his right hand after a jab, fair call, but I can recall a number of times he has throw the right as a lead. In fact, even if he did throw the jab first, he will still throw the right regardless if the jab lands, so doesnt that make it more dangerous?

Basically I think Kessler will win, but am aware Calzaghe poses a serious threat and there is a distinct possibility that he will win.

The only negative thing you could point out in his performances, was Mundine having some success with fainting and speed. Thats why I have an issue with that earlier poster insulting people who favoured Kessler. At this point in his career he has shown so much more dominance and skill than anyone I have ever seen in a long time.

I think its understandable that people are hyping him up.

By the way, does anyone think Calzaghe will actually stop Kessler? Even if this turned into a slugfest, Calzaghe hasnt KO'd or stopped (legitimately) a good opponent in AGES, which means he will likly have to box off for a decision, which means he will have to avoid Kesslers power for 12 rounds (and if hes winning big he'll have to avoid a desperate Kessler).

If Calzaghe wins this fight I will consider him a living legend and i'll become a HUGE fan. I will even stand up to his detractors and argue till im blue in the face.



AMEN


Some people on this board actually underrate Kessler (not you Amsterdam). But comments like Kessler being a robot, only carries a 1-2, being horrible on the inside, has slow feet, no stamina, poor workrate etc. is a WASTE OF FUCKIN TIME.


Kessler is brilliant and very accurate and he is a smart fighter who adapts to his opponents.

Calzaghe may be difficult to prepare for, but Kessler will now that he is bound to be fast, accurate and powerfull with that lead right hand all night in order to win.

Hes practicing the punch right now.


Please stop the nonsense. Kessler is A level and will pose a serious threat to Joe.

Azriel
10-10-2007, 04:02 PM
Calzhage a fraud? WOW. That's a thought out argument!

It's going to be a good boxing match and that's it. whoever wins deserves respect. The manner by witch he wins we'll determine wether the other one was overrated or not.

Aside form that, it's only speculations.

LETS GET READY TO RUMBLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!:happy