Who is overall the better fighter?

[tliang1000]

Two fighters with a lot of similarities even in interest wise. Seems that Floyd is a long lost brother of Jones. Both very Athletic, confident, cocky, show boating, and loves attention. P4P kings and tries to rap. But who is the overall the better fighter? There is a poll.... Use it.


*Note: They are not fighting each other.....

Roy Jones Jr. or Floyd Mayweather Jr.?

[warrior85]

gotta say roy

[mr. magoo]

I think Roy Jones has probably beaten the better list of fighters, but for whatever its worth, Floyd has never lost and has won more belts in more divisions, or at least I think its close.

[bulakenyo]

Talent and skills wise, it would be close.

But who between the two, in their primes, would I gladly shell out $50.00 to watch their PPV fight, I'd have to say definitely Roy Jones Jr.

[Polymath]

Big thing I see in Mayweathers favour is technically, he is far superior. Roy was so brilliantly unorthodox, but I'll take Floyd's text book style and old school shell defence any day. Just fundamentally better in a pure boxing sense.

Roy was a better athlete and had a more illustrious career though, for sure. Mayweathers athleticism is often overrated a bit imo, its his skill that makes him look so good and untouchable as much as his speed.

[Polymath]

Talent and skills wise, it would be close.

But who between the two, in their primes, would I gladly shell out $50.00 to watch their PPV fight, I'd have to say definitely Roy Jones Jr.

You're kidding...Jones would literally kill 'lil Floyd.

[bulakenyo]

You're kidding...Jones would literally kill 'lil Floyd.


Of course, Roy would. 130lbs vs. 160lbs. (prime)

[Marnoff]

In terms of overall talent, it just depends how you want to look at it. Roy Jones is one of the most gifted athletes in history... and that goes for any sport. His combination of speed and pinpoint accuracy with power was unbelievable. Floyd, on the other hand, is great in his own way.... I don't know, at first I was going to vote for Roy, but at the same time Floyd is undefeated as well. In fact, I'm going to vote Roy just because of the sheer dominance he would bring to his fights. Also because Roy has the bigger wins in Hopkins and Toney.

[BewareofDawg]

Roy Jones Jr. was better than Floyd is. He had more talent, more strength, more speed and alot more balls and flamboyance. He was basically what Floyd is trying to be. Roy was the Michael Jordan, Floyd is basically Kobe.....if Kobe NEVER dunked the ball.

I think a very common mistake made by far too many is the tendancy to underestimate Roy's 'boxing skills'. Watching him strutting around the ring like a game cock, sticking his head out, holding his hands low, touching his foot leads many to believe that he lacked basic fundamental boxing discipline. But in reality, fundamentals are a starting point, and for many perfecting those fundamentals can bring alot of success. Few others go beyond them and can afford to risk abandoning them in order to do something spectacular. Jones had the ability to fight without relying on fundamentals. This DOES NOT mean he couldn't always go back to them if he needed.

Jones beat two hall of famers in their prime. Jones excited the crowd, and scared his opponents stupid. Floyd fought castillo and corrales in their prime and many believe he lost 1 of those fights. When a prime Jones fought, there was no doubt who won.

Jones was better.

[Asterion]

In accomplishments, Roy wins right now. Though he was never in fights as big as Mayweather-De la Hoya or Mayweather-Hatton. This is getting close.

As a fighter, Mayweather is more complete. He has better technique and fundamentals, and a better defense.

[BewareofDawg]

In accomplishments, Roy wins right now. Though he was never in fights as big as Mayweather-De la Hoya or Mayweather-Hatton. This is getting close.

As a fighter, Mayweather is more complete. He has better technique and fundamentals, and a better defense.
Who cares how "big" the fights are? Prime Toney and Prime Hopkins are much better wins and tougher fights than a "washed up" Hoya and Hatton.

[BewareofDawg]

In accomplishments, Roy wins right now. Though he was never in fights as big as Mayweather-De la Hoya or Mayweather-Hatton. This is getting close.

As a fighter, Mayweather is more complete. He has better technique and fundamentals, and a better defense.
Have you seen a prime Jones fought. Athleticism is part of defense :deal Jones rarely ever got hit clean. His defense was top of the food chain.

[Asterion]

Have you seen a prime Jones fought. Athleticism is part of defense :deal Jones rarely ever got hit clean. His defense was top of the food chain.

But obviously it's not better than Mayweather's.

[tliang1000]

Those two are my personal faves and I have seen lots of fights between the both of them. I think Floyd is build to last to the bitter end while Jones is build more like a bell curve. He got too used to counting on his natural gifts (quickness and reflexes) that he if he loses anyone of those he will take a nose dive in skill... They both got great Resumes but Floyd have quick speedy opponents while Jones got hard hitting opponents.

[BewareofDawg]

But obviously it's not better than Mayweather's.
Mayweather was getting put on the ropes and hit by BALDOMIR :deal A fighter of Baldomirs class? Prime Jones would have played 'smack a hoe' with for 3 rounds and then crumbled to the canvas via body shot, without taking a clean shot.

[Chert]

roy jones juniaaaaahhh.... (ala al pacino accent) :D

[tliang1000]

Floyd is getting spanked in this poll! Shoulder roll Floyd!

[VIP]

Gotta say Roy. But Floyd might over take him in the achievement front, depending how he goes in the next couple of years. But Roy was so dominate in his prime and athletically not many even come close, speed and reflexes unmatched.

[MrStayman]

Roy is like Michael Jordan.
Floyd is like Kobe Bryant.

:deal

[standing 8]

Voted for Jones.

[El Bombasto]

RJJ has phenominal talent, but his fundamentals suck.
PBF has good talent, and great fundamentals.

[BewareofDawg]

RJJ has phenominal talent, but his fundamentals suck.
PBF has good talent, and great fundamentals.
Wrong. See my first post in this thread for the reasons.

[JamRos]

Both are very good fighters but I have to picked Roy for the fact the he has better resume. But It may change depending on how Mayweather ends his career.

[hitman_hatton1]

roy jones was better i think.

more dominant.

better puncher.

just a bit more talent for me. :good

[El Bombasto]

Wrong. See my first post in this thread for the reasons.

I've read your post, and though I agree with the majority of your statement, I disagree with your conclusion. RJJ was a better boxer because he was immensely more talented than Floyd will ever be. Floyd has the discipline to respect every opponent he's faced (although he talks all kinds of sh1t, he's always committed to his preparation). Floyd will never get KTFO'd by a lucky punch. And, for those of us who really understand just how talented RJJ was and consider how much he could have achieved, RJJ begins to look more like a waste of talent(show boating against nobodies and trying to play bush-league basketball on the day of his fights) than a great boxer.

[chimba]

Guys Jones has the compubox record of not getting hit once in a round.. Thats twilight zone shit defense. As far as offense, no contest. So Jones

[mad_takamura]

pbf is pretty boring to me, coz i rather watch rjj and his flicker jab than pbf's shoulder roll. :smoke

[Mind Reader]

Roy Jones Jr for sure, in my opinion.

[Mind Reader]

Roy Jones Jr. was better than Floyd is. He had more talent, more strength, more speed and alot more balls and flamboyance. He was basically what Floyd is trying to be. Roy was the Michael Jordan, Floyd is basically Kobe.....if Kobe NEVER dunked the ball.

I think a very common mistake made by far too many is the tendancy to underestimate Roy's 'boxing skills'. Watching him strutting around the ring like a game cock, sticking his head out, holding his hands low, touching his foot leads many to believe that he lacked basic fundamental boxing discipline. But in reality, fundamentals are a starting point, and for many perfecting those fundamentals can bring alot of success. Few others go beyond them and can afford to risk abandoning them in order to do something spectacular. Jones had the ability to fight without relying on fundamentals. This DOES NOT mean he couldn't always go back to them if he needed.

Jones beat two hall of famers in their prime. Jones excited the crowd, and scared his opponents stupid. Floyd fought castillo and corrales in their prime and many believe he lost 1 of those fights. When a prime Jones fought, there was no doubt who won.

Jones was better.

I gotta agree with this.:good

[brooklyn1550]

Roy Jones, Jr.

[kg0208]

Roy Jones has more natural talent but Floyd has more skills.

Roy Jones with his god given cat-like reflexes served him well in his younger days but once he got old and reflex disminshed, he didn't have the fundamental skill to fall back on, which is why he got clocked by Milk dud and Glen Johnsons of the world...

Id say Floyd is better overall because he doesn't rely on his natural talent..
Jones has skill. Had it in spades. He used his natural athletic ability to augment those skills. When it went away, he didn't adapt.

Jones had great ring generalship, great accuracy, good timing, great technique when throwing his punches (when he used the jab, it was very good). He knew how to circles his opponents, break down their styles and exploit their weaknesses. He could roll with punches almost as good as Toney. All of this is skill.....he relied on his speed and athleticism to augment them and do unorthodox things. When his speed and athleticism starrted to deteriorate, he didn't adapt his style and is still trying to do unorthodox things.

That's his problem, not lack of fundementals, but the reluctance to let go of who he was. Anyone who listens to Jones commentate, has seen him fight in amateurs, etc knows Jones has skill, fundementals, the whole nine yards.

[Daddy]

Roy hands down. Bernard and Montiel Griffin (before he was KDed first fight and jones hit him while he was down to get DQed) gave Jones a Slight bit of problems but nothing in the least to worry about. He did have a Flash KD on him, forget the kids name. Roy totally should have left the game after Ruiz.

Floyd had a bad fight with Chavez, Castillo (both fights), Zab did pretty good for a while (IT WAS a KD that first round I dont care who you are)
Oscar wasn't pretty, Baldo he Ran, the fight was horrid. Dont get me wrong, Floyd is one Bad MoFo, but he's not Feared because of his skill like Roy. Dudes KNEW they were gonna loose against Roy.

Folks RAN from Roy, Floyd Runs from just about any body else that's a bit of a threat or Pop shot them to death(Ghey was of fighting!)

[MSTR]

Roy Jones Jr. was better than Floyd is. He had more talent, more strength, more speed and alot more balls and flamboyance. He was basically what Floyd is trying to be. Roy was the Michael Jordan, Floyd is basically Kobe.....if Kobe NEVER dunked the ball.

I think a very common mistake made by far too many is the tendancy to underestimate Roy's 'boxing skills'. Watching him strutting around the ring like a game cock, sticking his head out, holding his hands low, touching his foot leads many to believe that he lacked basic fundamental boxing discipline. But in reality, fundamentals are a starting point, and for many perfecting those fundamentals can bring alot of success. Few others go beyond them and can afford to risk abandoning them in order to do something spectacular. Jones had the ability to fight without relying on fundamentals. This DOES NOT mean he couldn't always go back to them if he needed.

Jones beat two hall of famers in their prime. Jones excited the crowd, and scared his opponents stupid. Floyd fought castillo and corrales in their prime and many believe he lost 1 of those fights. When a prime Jones fought, there was no doubt who won.

Jones was better.
Excellent post mate. Totally agree with everything said. Roy adapted his fundamentals to make his unorthadox technique successful. If it were merely being athletic then every good sprinter, or basketball player would be a boxing star. Its all about the technical ability with roy, which allowed him to utilise his great athleticism.

[Monstar]

i hate floyd.. buh, dat aside i gotta go widd Jones..

he's basically Floyd + Knoccout power.. wich iz wudd mayweather laccs in my book