Boy, can Anderson Silva box!

[newby johnson]

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Sure it's been posted many times, but I don't care.

I love how he clowns on the guy all the time and makes him looks stupid and then the guy throws on some bravado to try to conserve his dignity.

Obviously the guy he's in there with isn't the greatest but still...

The way he can feel the rythm of his oponent is really great. He just knows what the guy's gonna do. When the punches are gonna come and how fast (like in the UFC against Forrest and that other guy that he kept punching in the thigh and doing other exhibitions) and that allows him to pull all the crazy shit he does all the time here and in the UFC.

He loves to showboat and sometimes leaves himself out there and gets hit for it.

The way he moves ( like the litle crouches and when he leans to the sides) and makes the guy react to his moves, he's just on another level, thanks mostly to his feel for the rhythm of his opponents.

I love the move towards the beggining when the opponent throws the jab and anderson moves to the outside of his jab and throws an uppercut on the inside of it.

The guy's terrific.:happy:thumbsup

[sp550i]

he nice..;


chad dawson would prolly do him dirty

[Pimp C]

Sure he looks impressive in the UFC fighting arm punching bums with no skill and chin but put him in the ring with anyone in the top 40 in his weightclass and he would get absolutely taken apart.

[Chessboxer]

Silva is great but I'm really impressed by BJ Penns boxing ability.

Even Freddie Roach said Penn is the best boxer in MMA.

Silva is a beast though.

[sp550i]

Sure he looks impressive in the UFC fighting arm punching bums with no skill and chin but put him in the ring with anyone in the top 40 in his weightclass and he would get absolutely taken apart.

he could probably compete higher than top 40 honestly...

[newby johnson]

Sure he looks impressive in the UFC fighting arm punching bums with no skill and chin but put him in the ring with anyone in the top 40 in his weightclass and he would get absolutely taken apart.

Your amount of vcash shows how much you know.

[Pimp C]

Your amount of vcash shows how much you know.
Check the prediction thread playa.:deal

[Pimp C]

he could probably compete higher than top 40 honestly...
I doubt it. I'm sure the world amateur champ at his weight would tool him as well. The guy just isn't that good.

[Boxmaster]

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Sure it's been posted many times, but I don't care.

I love how he clowns on the guy all the time and makes him looks stupid and then the guy throws on some bravado to try to conserve his dignity.

Obviously the guy he's in there with isn't the greatest but still...

The way he can feel the rythm of his oponent is really great. He just knows what the guy's gonna do. When the punches are gonna come and how fast (like in the UFC against Forrest and that other guy that he kept punching in the thigh and doing other exhibitions) and that allows him to pull all the crazy shit he does all the time here and in the UFC.

He loves to showboat and sometimes leaves himself out there and gets hit for it.

The way he moves ( like the litle crouches and when he leans to the sides) and makes the guy react to his moves, he's just on another level, thanks mostly to his feel for the rhythm of his opponents.

I love the move towards the beggining when the opponent throws the jab and anderson moves to the outside of his jab and throws an uppercut on the inside of it.

The guy's terrific.:happy:thumbsup

Silva would get knocked out by Jeff Lacy, Tarver, Roy Jones, and outpointed by Hopkins.

Yes he can box, but I don't see him being able to beat any of the top 40, I think he's on the level of a Kelly Pavlik skillwise, which is very good but it's not good enough to be great in any of these divisions.

I'd still want to see him fight Roy Jones because even an old Roy Jones would probably knock him out, but it would be fun to watch.

[newby johnson]

Check the prediction thread playa.:deal

I don't need to, your posts in this thread are enough.

[mking]

I think the Roy that just got beat by Hopkins could still kick his ass.

[Leon]

he could probably compete higher than top 40 honestly...I doubt it seriously.
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[Devintea]

He is EMBARRASSING THAT DUDE!!!

[GoldenArms]

Sure, he's nice with his hands in the UFC.....But didn't he get TKO'd by some Brazilian cab driver?

[lefthook89]

Sure, he's nice with his hands in the UFC.....But didn't he get TKO'd by some Brazilian cab driver?

does it really matter?? he's the most dominant champ in UFC history.

[dangerousity]

His loss was 12 years ago. Can that really be used as reference? I mean who knows how much he has improved his boxing skills in 12 years...

[hewito]

is this the mma forum????....or im confused..who cares........!.....the spider is alright,but i cannot see him with may,paquiao,valero bradley,under boxing rules of course...i think you should post this on mma forums and quit boxing altogether.

[anarci]

He got knocked out by a Brazilian tomatoe can, why do you even think he would be close to a top 40 fighter? Please!!!!! If he was a pro boxer he would be the type that would be used to pad a prospects record.

[Uncle Oden]

when he decides to lace 'em up for real and get out the cage, let me know, til then move it to the MMA forum.

[hewito]

and of course i mentioned smaller guys,let alone,the big boys!!

[Gander Tasco]

8:57 - Holy Shit., Anderson almost got his head ripped off with that shot.

Anyway he's a decent boxer. He's definitely better then most MMA fighters I've seen, but he wouldn't do that great in boxing.

[MrSmall]

I'm sorry but that video was a bit shit.

[Pimp C]

I don't need to, your posts in this thread are enough.
all this coming from a Guy who thinks silva can box.

[newby johnson]

He got knocked out by a Brazilian tomatoe can, why do you even think he would be close to a top 40 fighter? Please!!!!! If he was a pro boxer he would be the type that would be used to pad a prospects record.

Like the fella said, it was 12 yrs ago. How long ago was it that Pac got KOd?

all this coming from a Guy who thinks silva can box.

Your armpits stink

[gyll]

i can sense that this thread will quickly turn into boxing vs. mma. i started watching mma about 3 yrs ago. been into it ever since. some of the ground moves are gay as hell but they are effective and that ends all arguments especially when you are choked the fuck out or have your limb torn into two pieces.

as for spider silva, he is phenomenal in the ufc. he is basically doing what pac is doing at welterweight. i think he at least deserves a chance to compete against pro boxers.

[The Mighty One]

Silva certainly has a better chance of succeeding in boxing than James Toney does in MMA.

[AnthonyW]

I've seen a lot worse from professional boxers. I like how he works his way to the side of his opponent to throw from angles. You can tell he throws with power and can take a decent punch.

But then again the guy who he was sparring was terrible! I actually don't know who was worse, the guy he was sparring, or the guys trainer...(after the guy gets hit on the way in and misses his own punch), his trainer shouts, 'Nice try!.' :patsch

[lucasehr]

Like the fella said, it was 12 yrs ago. How long ago was it that Pac got KOd?

Yeah, but we have other evidence to go on with Pac. His KO is one of many fights we can look at. Silva got KO'd 12 years ago and has fought once since then. In the absence of any real evidence we have about Silva being a good boxer, we'll have to use the only two fights we have for him.

[ollyc]

Like the fella said, it was 12 yrs ago. How long ago was it that Pac got KOd?


Pac's had a couple of fights since in which his ability has become fairly apparent.

[newby johnson]

Yeah, but we have other evidence to go on with Pac. His KO is one of many fights we can look at. Silva got KO'd 12 years ago and has fought once since then. In the absence of any real evidence we have about Silva being a good boxer, we'll have to use the only two fights we have for him.

Those are not the only two fights we have. He has a whole career in MMA. Sure, he isn't fighting top strikers, but you'd be able to tell FMJ is good if he fought bums. Not exactly how good, but you'd generaly see.

[bald_head_slick]

Now I am a HUGE fan of Anderson Silva, but I think you guys are putting a dub on his boxing skill. He is a "natural" though and I don't doubt that he could have been an elite boxer.

He looks solid/decent, but that dude looked like a solid weekend warrior not a "pro" sparring partner. He was gassed halfway through the first. I am sure even gassed an active fighter will put the mitts on the Average Joe. No way in hell he was an active fighter gassed in two rounds.

Anderson was letting that guy make the fight then taking advantage of his conditioning and countering/flurrying. A guy following you will eat a few more shots and gas faster. In that situation you should be $*1tting on him. He wasn't.

Last... Dude he had a face-bar and the other guy didn't. Nothing is worse than working with a guy with a facebar and you don't have one. Dude walking through all types of stiff jabs like he is "working". That ish is annoying.

[VanillaKilla]

Im not impressed to be honest

I like fedors boxing

[Babality]

I don't like MMA a lot but what's with the hate? This dude has to practice a lot more than just boxing, no shit he's not as skilled as good fighters who exclusively train for boxing. Sigh.

[EpsilonAxis]

He's no elite level fighter, but he's good for an MMA guy. MMA guys tend to be pretty stiff in a boxing gym, from my experience.

Although watching GSP is different, that guy has a jab that even boxing purists must enjoy.

[VanillaKilla]

I don't like MMA a lot but what's with the hate? This dude has to practice a lot more than just boxing, no shit he's not as skilled as good fighters who exclusively train for boxing. Sigh.

Its not hate, The thread title is boy can anderson silva box.... And its been getting appropriate responses.....

If the thread title was, Anderson has some of the best hands in MMA, it would be different

[bald_head_slick]

I don't like MMA a lot but what's with the hate? This dude has to practice a lot more than just boxing, no shit he's not as skilled as good fighters who exclusively train for boxing. Sigh.

Um, no hate, but you can't post this guy in a boxing forum, hailing his boxing skills, and not expect him to get clowned a bit.

I am a big fan of his, but dude this wasn't that great.

[bald_head_slick]

Its not hate, The thread title is boy can anderson silva box.... And its been getting appropriate responses.....

If the thread title was, Anderson has some of the best hands in MMA, it would be different
:good

[TFFP]

Forget about it, in a boxing ring he's a stiff.

[Babality]

Its not hate, The thread title is boy can anderson silva box.... And its been getting appropriate responses.....

If the thread title was, Anderson has some of the best hands in MMA, it would be different

True, but I was speaking more in general terms.

[bald_head_slick]

Forget about it, in a boxing ring he's a stiff.

You are going a little far with the dissing. He looked decent.

He wasn't stiff. He was VERY fluid. Fluid almost to the point of being "sloppy/cocky". That is probably because he is used to huge hand speed advantages, 4oz gloves, and having his whole body as a weapon. As fast and natural as he is I am sure that he could make a dude pay in seconds.

He also never went to the body with the jab although he had the reach and speed advantage. That dude was turtling up and facing NO danger to the body.

[flem1]

You are going a little far with the dissing. He looked decent.

He wasn't stiff. He was VERY fluid. Fluid almost to the point of being "sloppy/cocky". That is probably because he is used to huge hand speed advantages, 4oz gloves, and having his whole body as a weapon. As fast and natural as he is I am sure that he could make a dude pay in seconds.

He also never went to the body with the jab although he had the reach and speed advantage. That dude was turtling up and facing NO danger to the body.
In short, Silva's boxing is way below average:yep

[Royal-T-Bag]

Silva couldn't beat a top amateur at LHW

[lucasehr]

Those are not the only two fights we have. He has a whole career in MMA. Sure, he isn't fighting top strikers, but you'd be able to tell FMJ is good if he fought bums. Not exactly how good, but you'd generaly see.

MMA is a completely different beast though, I don't think we can take much from that. Even in fights in which he's largely upright and punching, his opponents still have to be weary of his legs and takedowns at all times, so they can't focus completely on his punches.

[eltorrente]

Silva certainly has skills in the boxing ring.

Nope - he won't be a boxing champ anytime soon, but he certainly has the reflexes and natural fighting ability. Certainly some of the best hands MMA has ever seen.

[TFFP]

You are going a little far with the dissing. He looked decent.

He wasn't stiff. He was VERY fluid. Fluid almost to the point of being "sloppy/cocky". That is probably because he is used to huge hand speed advantages, 4oz gloves, and having his whole body as a weapon. As fast and natural as he is I am sure that he could make a dude pay in seconds.

He also never went to the body with the jab although he had the reach and speed advantage. That dude was turtling up and facing NO danger to the body.
I'm not saying he looked stiff, I'm saying he is a stiff. When it comes to boxing. Looking moderately impressive in a training video and actually competing with a legit boxer are different ball games. I'd be shocked if he didn't embarrass himself in a boxing ring.

[h2hkiller]

He's a better boxer than 90% of the MMA fighters out there, thats for sure.

[evalistinho]

BJ Penn has better boxing skills than Anderson

[charlievint]

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Sure it's been posted many times, but I don't care.

I love how he clowns on the guy all the time and makes him looks stupid and then the guy throws on some bravado to try to conserve his dignity.

Obviously the guy he's in there with isn't the greatest but still...

The way he can feel the rythm of his oponent is really great. He just knows what the guy's gonna do. When the punches are gonna come and how fast (like in the UFC against Forrest and that other guy that he kept punching in the thigh and doing other exhibitions) and that allows him to pull all the crazy shit he does all the time here and in the UFC.

He loves to showboat and sometimes leaves himself out there and gets hit for it.

The way he moves ( like the litle crouches and when he leans to the sides) and makes the guy react to his moves, he's just on another level, thanks mostly to his feel for the rhythm of his opponents.

I love the move towards the beggining when the opponent throws the jab and anderson moves to the outside of his jab and throws an uppercut on the inside of it.

The guy's terrific.:happy:thumbsup

He can definitley box....but not like I think you feel. He's better than an average joe or a part time boxer, but the guy he was sparing caught him FAR too many times for me to be impressed. His striking in MMA is incredible b/c of his versatility. The elbows, knees, and kicks are way better than his boxing.

[charlievint]

BJ Penn has better boxing skills than Anderson

By far! BJ and Nate Diaz have pro boxing level hands. Not to say they'd be able to beat a boxing world champ at their own game but if they decided to put everything into boxing I beleive their talent level would allow them to capture a title.

[Son of Gaul]

Silva is great but I'm really impressed by BJ Penns boxing ability.

Even Freddie Roach said Penn is the best boxer in MMA.

Silva is a beast though.
I think Roach trained Penn so there may be some bias there...

[san rafael]

He has the instincts of a boxer, I'll give him that. His actual tools are not impressive.

[ozziebattler]

Silva would get knocked out by Jeff Lacy, Tarver, Roy Jones, and outpointed by Hopkins.

Yes he can box, but I don't see him being able to beat any of the top 40, I think he's on the level of a Kelly Pavlik skillwise, which is very good but it's not good enough to be great in any of these divisions.

I'd still want to see him fight Roy Jones because even an old Roy Jones would probably knock him out, but it would be fun to watch.

You must be a idiot.On the level of a kelly pavlik???

You know he has boxed and lost to journeymen calibre fighters.

He has crazy reflexes and good accuracy with his punches on stiff MMA fighters but in a 12round boxing bout against a quality boxer he wouldnt fair so good.

He can throw good punches,kicks,knees and has a granite chin.Thats why he is in carving up in MMA..

If he were indeed on the same level as a Kelly Pavlik then why wouldnt he be boxing and earning 3times asmuch do$h then he does in MMA??

[ozziebattler]

He has the instincts of a boxer, I'll give him that. His actual tools are not impressive.

Thats what i think.

Wouldnt look so sharp against a quality boxer in even a 6rounder.

[MMJoe]

I fear he didn't make a big splashi ni boxing where he tried it.

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[Irelandsthebest]

Sure he looks impressive in the UFC fighting arm punching bums with no skill and chin but put him in the ring with anyone in the top 40 in his weightclass and he would get absolutely taken apart.
I'm not saying he would not get beaten badly in real boxing, but you greatly underestimate the boxers they have.

[1lehudson]

His loss was 12 years ago. Can that really be used as reference? I mean who knows how much he has improved his boxing skills in 12 years...If it was to a guy that has 21 loses it doesnt look good for him improving to the point that he could even think about fighting elite boxers.

[paloalto00]

he could probably compete higher than top 40 honestly...

Fuck no. He's 1-1 in pro boxing... already been knocked out.

[bleed_oil]

What the fuck is wrong with you guys idolizing this UFC bum... if you think Silva is some sort of king, go put on an affliction shirt, toss in a but plug and head out the gay bird...

[Boxmaster]

You must be a idiot.On the level of a kelly pavlik???

You know he has boxed and lost to journeymen calibre fighters.

He has crazy reflexes and good accuracy with his punches on stiff MMA fighters but in a 12round boxing bout against a quality boxer he wouldnt fair so good.

He can throw good punches,kicks,knees and has a granite chin.Thats why he is in carving up in MMA..

If he were indeed on the same level as a Kelly Pavlik then why wouldnt he be boxing and earning 3times asmuch do$h then he does in MMA??

Pavlik has no technical abilities whatsoever. He telegraphs all his punches, and without his power he wouldn't even be a champion. The only reason he beat Miranda, or Taylor is because of his power. I do believe Anderson Silva could outbox Kelly Pavlik, because Kelly Pavlik is not a pure boxer.

I do think Anderson Silva if he focused entirely on boxing could beat a Kelly Pavlik or even a Jermain Taylor, because these individuals have very limited boxing ability or very weak chins. Silva does have very good power, and he he in my opinion could have been a champion.

I don't think he could have ever beat a pure boxer but look at Cintron and Pavlik, these guys have won belts.

Lets look at what Silva does right, his technique is decent. He has amazingly good reflexes which would make up for his poor footwork. He has power in both hands, and a good chin. Honestly he looks a lot like a Froch type fighter and we know with proper training these sorts of individuals can win a title. We know Silva has the discipline and natural talent to win a championship belt on boxing, I don't think he would be a great boxer, but a very good boxer is enough to win a title in some of these divisions.

And no he doesnt stand a chance against Roy Jones Jr, and it was foolish of him to ask for that fight because he wont last 6 rounds.

[Boxmaster]

Fuck no. He's 1-1 in pro boxing... already been knocked out.

lets be fair, Hopkins lost and Pacquiao lost. This doesn't really indicate how good a fighter is. We'd have to look at the tapes to see if he had the fundamentals like a jab and hook.

[Boxmaster]

I fear he didn't make a big splashi ni boxing where he tried it.

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Here he is in a boxing match. Honestly he's not that bad, he has the fundamentals and the amazing reflexes. I do think he could have become a champion if his chin holds up and if he can do this for 12 rounds.

[HENDO]

A) The guy he's fighting is an amateur that's new to the sport.

B) He gets rocked hard at 9 minutes in. Without headgear, lights out.

C) He tries to be Roy Jones without bein Roy Jones. It's not even workin out for Roy Jones anymore, so how will it work out for Anderson Silva who isn't close to bein the same athlete as Roy.

[HENDO]

Silva would get knocked out by Jeff Lacy, Tarver, Roy Jones, and outpointed by Hopkins.

Yes he can box, but I don't see him being able to beat any of the top 40, I think he's on the level of a Kelly Pavlik skillwise, which is very good but it's not good enough to be great in any of these divisions.

I'd still want to see him fight Roy Jones because even an old Roy Jones would probably knock him out, but it would be fun to watch.

He is no where close to Kelly Pavlik's skill level. Kelly would KO him within 5 rounds.

[HENDO]

He is EMBARRASSING THAT DUDE!!!

You mean the amateur fighter that's new to the sport, but still managed to hit him with a huge shot 9 minutes in?

That guy?

[coupdegrace]

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Sure it's been posted many times, but I don't care.

I love how he clowns on the guy all the time and makes him looks stupid and then the guy throws on some bravado to try to conserve his dignity.

Obviously the guy he's in there with isn't the greatest but still...

The way he can feel the rythm of his oponent is really great. He just knows what the guy's gonna do. When the punches are gonna come and how fast (like in the UFC against Forrest and that other guy that he kept punching in the thigh and doing other exhibitions) and that allows him to pull all the crazy shit he does all the time here and in the UFC.

He loves to showboat and sometimes leaves himself out there and gets hit for it.

The way he moves ( like the litle crouches and when he leans to the sides) and makes the guy react to his moves, he's just on another level, thanks mostly to his feel for the rhythm of his opponents.

I love the move towards the beggining when the opponent throws the jab and anderson moves to the outside of his jab and throws an uppercut on the inside of it.

The guy's terrific.:happy:thumbsup


lol, his face will be busted against top 30tier boxer

[DemolitionDan]

He got his ass KO'd when he tried boxing. Then he ran over to MMA. Nothing impressive about this Silva guy, he would be a journeyman in boxing.

[Scar]

I doubt it seriously.
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[Maxime]

If he was that great he'd be in boxing making some real money instead of making peanuts in MMA.

[bleed_oil]

Holy fuck... how the hell does someone suggest this guy can beat Pavlik at a BOXING match... some bum off the streets of Rio TKO'd this guy... seriously.

[Scar]

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Here he is in a boxing match. Honestly he's not that bad, he has the fundamentals and the amazing reflexes. I do think he could have become a champion if his chin holds up and if he can do this for 12 rounds.

Yup, that explains it. That's why he ditched making multi millions in boxing for human chicken fighting. I hear he's a tap-out specialist, nut sack grabbing is his finisher.

[jonnyP]

Silva would get knocked out by Jeff Lacy, Tarver, Roy Jones, and outpointed by Hopkins.

Yes he can box, but I don't see him being able to beat any of the top 40, I think he's on the level of a Kelly Pavlik skillwise, which is very good but it's not good enough to be great in any of these divisions.

I'd still want to see him fight Roy Jones because even an old Roy Jones would probably knock him out, but it would be fun to watch.

hopkinds would knock this guy out in a round, the man has no boxing skills, great mma fighter but journeyman boxer at the most :-( dont believe the hype

[Scar]

Holy fuck... how the hell does someone suggest this guy can beat Pavlik at a BOXING match... some bum off the streets of Rio TKO'd this guy... seriously.

Pavlik would behead that can and all his fans from a single punch in the first round. If he could beat the middleweight champion he wouldn't have lost by KO in the first round in his 2nd professional fight against tune up opposition. Fact is, in boxing this garbage can is lesser than a can so he went to human chicken fighting to grab nuts and roll on the floor and as expected he made it far enough to main event. Boxing is a sport, not a glorified street fight appreciated by a group of drunkies. A WWE and NFL reject Brock Lesnar is their main man, discussion OVER.

[bleed_oil]

Pavlik would behead that can and all his fans from a single punch in the first round. If he could beat the middleweight champion he wouldn't have lost by KO in the first round in his 2nd professional fight against tune up opposition. Fact is, in boxing this garbage can is lesser than a can so he went to human chicken fighting to grab nuts and roll on the floor and as expected he made it far enough to main event. Boxing is a sport, not a glorified street fight appreciated by a group of drunkies. A WWE and NFL reject Brock Lesnar is their main man, discussion OVER.

:lol: Said right.
Give me a fucking break. People watch him juke and jive while trading shots some slow witted amateur wrestler on a UFC PPV and think he can stand in with a Middleweight Champion like Pavlik??
I'm no Pavlik fan, but Pavlik would fuking decapitate him...
Seriously people on here need to smarten up what a load of horse shit... If you look up to UFC fighters, go post on one of the infinite MMA boards where victims of bullying in the real world post about there favorite grappler...

[PIPO23]

He is the best BOXER in MMA he KTFO griffin with a fade away jab wtf!!? Forest GUMP griffin can't BOX, terrible.:patsch


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[Brummy1976]

he could probably compete higher than top 40 honestly...no

[newby johnson]

Im not impressed to be honest

I like fedors boxing

He doesn't like Anderson but he likes Fedor:lol::lol:


See all of you guys are the kind of people who don't think with your own heads but go by the common wisdom of hands of any boxer>hands of any mma fighter.

If you guys saw FMJ fighting MMA you'd be saying "no way he cuts it in boxing"

But I love it how you throw in things like "his footwork is bad" etc. as if you know shit when I KNOW you couldn't tell me what specificaly you mean.

I remember once on this forum a guy claiming Shane thinks more since he got with Naz and I pressed him on it (because I knew, like in your cases, he was just saying something that sounds smart) and asked him to show me an example of where he sees Shane thinking, and of course I didn't get an example.

B) He gets rocked hard at 9 minutes in. Without headgear, lights out.You are retarded. Doesn't smth seem odd to you about that punch? isn't it harder and faster than other things they were throwing? The guy got steemed bc anderson was making him look like a fool so he stepped it up and threw a punch much faster than anything else he threw.

Anderson swaggers and shows off to the point he allows himself to get hit.

He is no where close to Kelly Pavlik's skill level. Kelly would KO him within 5 rounds. :lol::lol::lol:

That bit that I mentioned that you guys don't think but rather, like sheep, abide by the common wisdom of boxers hadns>mma fighter's hands, this comment shows it so clearly.

Pavlik is SOOOOOO CLEARLY not skilled as a boxer. He is light years behind anderson.


Also, Freddie Roach said that Anderson goes 30-40% in the gym. So think how good he is when he goes for real. Not that you imbeciles can appreciate it.

[boxeo#1]

For an MMA fighter he's boxing and moving just beautifully.

[Akxtinguish]

I thought there was a seperate sub-forum for homosexuality. How did this end up in General?

[lucasehr]

He doesn't like Anderson but he likes Fedor:lol::lol:


See all of you guys are the kind of people who don't think with your own heads but go by the common wisdom of hands of any boxer>hands of any mma fighter.

If you guys saw FMJ fighting MMA you'd be saying "no way he cuts it in boxing"


Man, I really hate when people call someone's opinion stupid, which happens all the time here. You're welcome to any opinion you want, correct or incorrect. So I won't call your opinion stupid. I couldn't disagree more, but I won't say it. Here's the thing man ... we're not basing Anderson's boxing skills on his mma ability, as in your FMJ example. We're basing Anderson's boxing ability on watching him box. He's not a good boxer based on watching him box. Is PBF a good MMA fighter? I have no idea. probably not, but I don't know, I've never seen him do it. Is Anderson Silva a good boxer? Nope, I've SEEN HIM BOX. He's not good.

Now back to the opinion thing ... yours, regardin Kelly Pavlik, related to Anderson Silva, is very incorrect. I'm sorry, I know what I just said, but your entire view is absurd. If Kelly was a bad boxer who simply had power he would have lost by now (at MW). He's been the best MW for a couple years and that's not just because Anderson Silva never laced them up against him, it's because he's a hell of a boxer.

[lucasehr]

That bit that I mentioned that you guys don't think but rather, like sheep, abide by the common wisdom of boxers hadns>mma fighter's hands, this comment shows it so clearly.

Pavlik is SOOOOOO CLEARLY not skilled as a boxer. He is light years behind anderson.


Also, Freddie Roach said that Anderson goes 30-40% in the gym. So think how good he is when he goes for real. Not that you imbeciles can appreciate it.

You can't just say "Pavlik is SOOOO CLEARLY not skilled as a boxer. He is light years behind anderson." Based on what? Your opinion? So we should follow your common wisdom like sheep, but no one else's? Because based on everything I've seen, Kelly Pavlik is a much, much better boxer than Anderson Silva. But is it cool if I develop my own opinion, or am I to only agree with what you write?

No joke, but have you ever watched KP box before? Seriously?

Why are you quoting Roach? We're coming up with our own opinions, remember? We're not basing them on someone else's thoughts, that's sheep-like. Also, do you think you're the only person here who likes MMA? I don't, but I'd say at least thirty percent of the board is big on MMA. You don't know anything that anyone else here doesn't already.

[Slacker]

Jesus...that guy hes in there with has the worst technique I've seen since Butterbean!

He stands flatfooted, his hands are down and he is slow as fuck...and he still manages to catch him a bunch.

Silva is a beast in MMA, but he better stay out of the boxing ring.

I've seen where him and RJJ want to fight, and I think even with RJJ as shot as he is, Silva has no chance of winning. lol

[thejokerswild]

That was fucking crazy. SIlva can really box, he got his opponant right mentally. Then the rest was a breeze.

[LSomefun]

Silva is a beast in MMA, The guy is constantly improving! Good stuff

[KO KIDD]

The other guy looked like Chris Byrd. Silva was so so. He threw a lot of arm punches but when he did sit down on the straight left he did damage. It was just sparring and I feel Anderson took it easy on him. If Anderson used the left more he would have embarrassed that guy. The other guy was impressive too he landed some bombs. He had the harder shots and an ok jab just could not adapt to Anderson's movement and angles

[NoHomeJerome]

the other guy was a bum and was gassed after one minute ffs, did they pull that dude in off the street and ask him if he wanted to spar a UFC champ?

[SILVIO_DANTE]

I didn't see anythig particularly impressive. Yeah he moves nicely and times his punches and hed movement well, but I've seen guys better than that in every gym I've been in. Has the threadstarter not boxed before, cos to say someone would be a top 40 in the WORLD based on that sparring session is ludicrous in my opinion.

[newby johnson]

Man, I really hate when people call someone's opinion stupid, which happens all the time here. You're welcome to any opinion you want, correct or incorrect. So I won't call your opinion stupid. I couldn't disagree more, but I won't say it. Here's the thing man ... we're not basing Anderson's boxing skills on his mma ability, as in your FMJ example. We're basing Anderson's boxing ability on watching him box. He's not a good boxer based on watching him box. Is PBF a good MMA fighter? I have no idea. probably not, but I don't know, I've never seen him do it. Is Anderson Silva a good boxer? Nope, I've SEEN HIM BOX. He's not good.

Now back to the opinion thing ... yours, regardin Kelly Pavlik, related to Anderson Silva, is very incorrect. I'm sorry, I know what I just said, but your entire view is absurd. If Kelly was a bad boxer who simply had power he would have lost by now (at MW). He's been the best MW for a couple years and that's not just because Anderson Silva never laced them up against him, it's because he's a hell of a boxer.

No, you're basing it on the fact that he's an mma fighter.

[krimzon]

he looks good

i'd give him a chance to beat current state roy jones

[newby johnson]

Maybe you idiots will value Roach's opinion:

Anderson Silva, he comes to my gym and he wants to fight Roy Jones. He has four pro fights in Brazil but I don't think he's quite ready for Roy Jones yet. But he does have a lot of potential. He's a very good athlete.

Do you think it's possible that Anderson Silva some day could compete with a Roy Jones, or is that not just realistic? I mean, Roy Jones is past his prime, but he's still a guy who has been boxing at the elite level for two decades. Is it realistic for Silva to think he could compete with a Roy Jones?
I worked with Anderson, and I told him, "To fight Roy Jones, you're going to have to make some adjustments." Because he does make some fundamental mistakes. But when I show him the adjustments, he does pick it up very quickly. He's a very good athlete. I'd say the Roy Jones 10 years ago, that would never happen. But the Roy Jones today? Possibly. He definitely needs some work, though.

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[bigeddie27]

hes the best mma fighter out right now. and the fact he goes to wild card with freddy to (i assuem) work on his striking shows how smart he is.

[dangerousity]

If it was to a guy that has 21 loses it doesnt look good for him improving to the point that he could even think about fighting elite boxers.

Let me see, Hopkins looses his first fight to a guy who was 0-0-0 yet improves his boxing skills to the point that he becomes one of the greatest MW champs ever and p4p king.

Silva looses his first fight to a guy who was then 10-2 and he's not capable of improving his boxing skills to the point that he could someday beat a top 40 boxer...?

wow.

[newby johnson]

Let me see, Hopkins looses his first fight to a guy who was 0-0-0 yet improves his boxing skills to the point that he becomes one of the greatest MW champs ever and p4p king.

Silva looses his first fight to a guy who was then 10-2 and he's not capable of improving his boxing skills to the point that he could someday beat a top 40 boxer...?

wow.

Let it go. You'll sooner get an invalid to run than an idiot to understand. I don't know why I ever get into these things.

[NALLEGE]

None of those MMA guys can beat a top boxer. It will take less than a round for a boxer to ko an MMA fighter...

[NALLEGE]

I saw on Bully Beatdowns (MTV) that an MMA boxer got caught and 8 counted by the bully lol... A bully can't get lucky against a top of the line boxer in his prime.

[NALLEGE]

Let me see, Hopkins looses his first fight to a guy who was 0-0-0 yet improves his boxing skills to the point that he becomes one of the greatest MW champs ever and p4p king.

Silva looses his first fight to a guy who was then 10-2 and he's not capable of improving his boxing skills to the point that he could someday beat a top 40 boxer...?

wow.Terrible example, and "loses" not looses...

[NoHomeJerome]

is anyone watching this clown now? biggest piece of garbage fight ever. it's like haye-valuev, but with even less punches.

[HENDO]

He doesn't like Anderson but he likes Fedor:lol::lol:


See all of you guys are the kind of people who don't think with your own heads but go by the common wisdom of hands of any boxer>hands of any mma fighter.

If you guys saw FMJ fighting MMA you'd be saying "no way he cuts it in boxing"

But I love it how you throw in things like "his footwork is bad" etc. as if you know shit when I KNOW you couldn't tell me what specificaly you mean.

I remember once on this forum a guy claiming Shane thinks more since he got with Naz and I pressed him on it (because I knew, like in your cases, he was just saying something that sounds smart) and asked him to show me an example of where he sees Shane thinking, and of course I didn't get an example.

You are retarded. Doesn't smth seem odd to you about that punch? isn't it harder and faster than other things they were throwing? The guy got steemed bc anderson was making him look like a fool so he stepped it up and threw a punch much faster than anything else he threw.

Anderson swaggers and shows off to the point he allows himself to get hit.

:lol::lol::lol:

That bit that I mentioned that you guys don't think but rather, like sheep, abide by the common wisdom of boxers hadns>mma fighter's hands, this comment shows it so clearly.

Pavlik is SOOOOOO CLEARLY not skilled as a boxer. He is light years behind anderson.


Also, Freddie Roach said that Anderson goes 30-40% in the gym. So think how good he is when he goes for real. Not that you imbeciles can appreciate it.

You're an MMA kid, so I'll forgive, you but you clearly don't understand boxing.

Silva is clearly open for left hooks when he switches to orthadox stance. He tries to be like Roy Jones, who also exhibits bad technique, without being close to the athlete Roy Jones is, and without Jones' experience.

He also has a tendency to get off balance when he punches, he does a lot of wasted movement, and against Pavlik, he would be stalked down and knocked out somewhere before the 5th round as Pavlik is the middleweight champion, and Silva has only had two fights

Which is another thing you conviently overlooked. In that clip, he's sparring with a BEGGINER. Not a beggining pro, but a beggining amateur fighter, who is askin his trainer for instructions while he's sparring, yet Anderson still managesto get rocked hard 9 minutes in.

If you had any idea about boxing, you probably would be idolizing to scared men that go straight to the ground because they don't want to get hit.

But you don't, so keep this type of bullshit in the MMA forum because you have no idea what you're talking about.

Anderson is great at MMA, but this is boxing, and as it stands he wouldn't get anywhere. He would need a lot of experience. To state that he would beat the current middleweight champion is asinine.

Also show me some proof of Roach saying he only goes 30% which is bullshit anyway.

[(PimpThaSystem)]

I saw on Bully Beatdowns (MTV) that an MMA boxer got caught and 8 counted by the bully lol... A bully can't get lucky against a top of the line boxer in his prime.

Yeah that shows not real Nallege. Sorry to break it to you but Laguna Beach was fake too...

[newby johnson]

You're an MMA kid, so I'll forgive, you but you clearly don't understand boxing.

Silva is clearly open for left hooks when he switches to orthadox stance. He tries to be like Roy Jones, who also exhibits bad technique, without being close to the athlete Roy Jones is, and without Jones' experience.

He also has a tendency to get off balance when he punches, he does a lot of wasted movement, and against Pavlik, he would be stalked down and knocked out somewhere before the 5th round as Pavlik is the middleweight champion, and Silva has only had two fights

Which is another thing you conviently overlooked. In that clip, he's sparring with a BEGGINER. Not a beggining pro, but a beggining amateur fighter, who is askin his trainer for instructions while he's sparring, yet Anderson still managesto get rocked hard 9 minutes in.

If you had any idea about boxing, you probably would be idolizing to scared men that go straight to the ground because they don't want to get hit.

But you don't, so keep this type of bullshit in the MMA forum because you have no idea what you're talking about.

Anderson is great at MMA, but this is boxing, and as it stands he wouldn't get anywhere. He would need a lot of experience. To state that he would beat the current middleweight champion is asinine.

Also show me some proof of Roach saying he only goes 30% which is bullshit anyway.

Just wanted to let you know I didn't read it

[conditioner101]

Pavlik has no technical abilities whatsoever. He telegraphs all his punches, and without his power he wouldn't even be a champion. The only reason he beat Miranda, or Taylor is because of his power. I do believe Anderson Silva could outbox Kelly Pavlik, because Kelly Pavlik is not a pure boxer.

I do think Anderson Silva if he focused entirely on boxing could beat a Kelly Pavlik or even a Jermain Taylor, because these individuals have very limited boxing ability or very weak chins. Silva does have very good power, and he he in my opinion could have been a champion.

I don't think he could have ever beat a pure boxer but look at Cintron and Pavlik, these guys have won belts.

Lets look at what Silva does right, his technique is decent. He has amazingly good reflexes which would make up for his poor footwork. He has power in both hands, and a good chin. Honestly he looks a lot like a Froch type fighter and we know with proper training these sorts of individuals can win a title. We know Silva has the discipline and natural talent to win a championship belt on boxing, I don't think he would be a great boxer, but a very good boxer is enough to win a title in some of these divisions.

And no he doesnt stand a chance against Roy Jones Jr, and it was foolish of him to ask for that fight because he wont last 6 rounds.

That was without doubt the DUMBEST thing I ever read in these forums.
I think my IQ went down after reading that post.

[Vale-Feye]

Anderson makes his living beating up grapplers and cans like Forest for a reason. He would get dominated in boxing or K-1.

[joe the great]

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Sure it's been posted many times, but I don't care.

I love how he clowns on the guy all the time and makes him looks stupid and then the guy throws on some bravado to try to conserve his dignity.

Obviously the guy he's in there with isn't the greatest but still...

The way he can feel the rythm of his oponent is really great. He just knows what the guy's gonna do. When the punches are gonna come and how fast (like in the UFC against Forrest and that other guy that he kept punching in the thigh and doing other exhibitions) and that allows him to pull all the crazy shit he does all the time here and in the UFC.

He loves to showboat and sometimes leaves himself out there and gets hit for it.

The way he moves ( like the litle crouches and when he leans to the sides) and makes the guy react to his moves, he's just on another level, thanks mostly to his feel for the rhythm of his opponents.

I love the move towards the beggining when the opponent throws the jab and anderson moves to the outside of his jab and throws an uppercut on the inside of it.

The guy's terrific.:happy:thumbsup
You realize his boxing record is 1-1?

[irish warrior]

does it really matter?? he's the most dominant champ in UFC history.
That says it all dickhead

[PH|LLA]

he looked like crap to me

[cryptic]

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Sure it's been posted many times, but I don't care.

I love how he clowns on the guy all the time and makes him looks stupid and then the guy throws on some bravado to try to conserve his dignity.

Obviously the guy he's in there with isn't the greatest but still...

The way he can feel the rythm of his oponent is really great. He just knows what the guy's gonna do. When the punches are gonna come and how fast (like in the UFC against Forrest and that other guy that he kept punching in the thigh and doing other exhibitions) and that allows him to pull all the crazy shit he does all the time here and in the UFC.

He loves to showboat and sometimes leaves himself out there and gets hit for it.

The way he moves ( like the litle crouches and when he leans to the sides) and makes the guy react to his moves, he's just on another level, thanks mostly to his feel for the rhythm of his opponents.

I love the move towards the beggining when the opponent throws the jab and anderson moves to the outside of his jab and throws an uppercut on the inside of it.

The guy's terrific.:happy:thumbsup

im just not impressed with silva's boxing in this vid

[Flexb]

Ya'll are fuking retards if you think Silva has any chance with any serious pro boxer

[Slacker]

A side note...

At the gym yesterday working out on the HB, some MMA guys come in and start on the other HB's. Technique was so bad, even I was giving them tips, and suggested they talk to my coach.

The guy said "I have a coach, I just need a "mitt man" to hold the mitts for me."

My coach, who owns the gym and was standing there, asked him to throw 1+2+3+4 at the bag, asked me to point out the mistakes and before long..the whole MMA team was standing there learning how to properly throw a hook...of which none of them had a clue about 10 mins prior...and these are guys who have been in the cage.

They were all throwing arm punches and not pivoting into the punch, which is where the power comes from.

Its pretty sad, but its something that seems typical in MMA. None of those guys could win a fight with a C+ level pro.

After hearing of the possible Silva/RJJ fight, I was confused why RJJ would want that fight, but now I know why. Its a shoe in. Silva has so many fundamental issues, that there is no way he can make up 30yrs of experience and muscle memory Roy has of doing it correctly. Its going to be great publicity for Roy.

Sure, Roy's technique isn't textbook, but he his a gifted athlete who is able to get away with a lot because of his natural ability.

My 2 cents..

[Pimp C]

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Here he is in a boxing match. Honestly he's not that bad, he has the fundamentals and the amazing reflexes. I do think he could have become a champion if his chin holds up and if he can do this for 12 rounds.
Fucking horrible. This does nothing but prove my point.:lol::rofl:lol:

[ontheup]

WTF that sparring partner was bad and i mean really bad. Silva has no fucking power in his punches at all.

[Kid Cuba]

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Sure it's been posted many times, but I don't care.

I love how he clowns on the guy all the time and makes him looks stupid and then the guy throws on some bravado to try to conserve his dignity.

Obviously the guy he's in there with isn't the greatest but still...

The way he can feel the rythm of his oponent is really great. He just knows what the guy's gonna do. When the punches are gonna come and how fast (like in the UFC against Forrest and that other guy that he kept punching in the thigh and doing other exhibitions) and that allows him to pull all the crazy shit he does all the time here and in the UFC.

He loves to showboat and sometimes leaves himself out there and gets hit for it.

The way he moves ( like the litle crouches and when he leans to the sides) and makes the guy react to his moves, he's just on another level, thanks mostly to his feel for the rhythm of his opponents.

I love the move towards the beggining when the opponent throws the jab and anderson moves to the outside of his jab and throws an uppercut on the inside of it.

The guy's terrific.:happy:thumbsup
He's decent but should stick to MMA.

[joe the great]

Ya'll are fuking retards if you think Silva has any chance with any serious pro boxer
He does if it's an MMA bout, but not much of one in a pro boxing bout. Like I said his boxing record is 1-1.

[WATERBOY]

Silva would get knocked out by Jeff Lacy, Tarver, Roy Jones, and outpointed by Hopkins.

Yes he can box, but I don't see him being able to beat any of the top 40, I think he's on the level of a Kelly Pavlik skillwise, which is very good but it's not good enough to be great in any of these divisions.

I'd still want to see him fight Roy Jones because even an old Roy Jones would probably knock him out, but it would be fun to watch.


HOPKINS would give him a monumental beat down and stop him brutaly!

[southpaw jab]

Anderson Silva is the greatest striker in the history of combat sports, 'nuff said.