Which Fighter is the most important to the Sport [Archive]

BigReg

10-10-2007, 01:52 PM

Wlad and Pacman because they put asses in the seats and they have a fan friendly style, regardless of how one dimensional pacman is, he's exciting to most people'e eyes so that makes him very important to this sport..

If Wlad is so important, then why is no one interested in the HW division? If Pac is imoortant(outside of the Filipines), and puts so many asses in the seats, then how come he couldn't sell out at 12,000 seat arena in his recent fight with Barrera?

KayEpps

10-10-2007, 01:55 PM

Oscar - Wlad - Mayweather - PacMan - Hatton - Cotto.

There are really no other fighters that sell tickets or have people running to the TV's to watch them.

KayEpps

10-10-2007, 01:55 PM

If Wlad is so important, then why is no one interested in the HW division? If Pac is imoortant(outside of the Filipines), and puts so many asses in the seats, then how come he couldn't sell out at 12,000 seat arena in his recent fight with Barrera?

Cause Wlad isn't fighting anyone important.

And you not only look at ticket sells - but PPV buys.

kg0208

10-10-2007, 01:56 PM

i know you asked the question. but who do you think it is, kg? :think

Since DLH is still a fighter, him. Why? Well, people know who PBF is now. They know because they tuned in to see who will fight DLH. Dancing With The Stars is raising his profile as well, but DLH got the ball rolling.

If DLH raises profiles. He is also the face of the sport, for better or worse. I would have to go with him based on this. Prior to him, it was Tyson for a brief period of time, and SRL before him.

Money comes into play, but they make the money they do because people pay attention. DLH sells high level PPV #'s fighting guys who have no shot against him.

Chert

10-10-2007, 01:57 PM

a fighter is impt. if he can attract new fans to the sport.

Kaino

10-10-2007, 01:57 PM

Oscar - Wlad - Mayweather - PacMan - Hatton - Cotto.

There are really no other fighters that sell tickets or have people running to the TV's to watch them.

Oscar - Cotto - Pavlik - Mayweather - Pac - Hatton - Wlad

precision

10-10-2007, 01:59 PM

pavlik
cotto
mayweather
wlad
pacquaio

BigReg

10-10-2007, 01:59 PM

Cause Wlad isn't fighting anyone important.

And you not only look at ticket sells - but PPV buys.

Tyson rarely fought anyone important back in the mid to late 80's yet he was real important to the sport.

If you want to go by PPV numbers, than Pac is behind DLH and Floyd.

chimba

10-10-2007, 02:03 PM

Tyson rarely fought anyone important back in the mid to late 80's yet he was real important to the sport.

If you want to go by PPV numbers, than Pac is behind DLH and Floyd.

PPV in the states you mean..

PPV worldwide you have to count that

PAC has the most number of fans though..

BewareofDawg

10-10-2007, 02:07 PM

Wladimir Klitschko. His success is crucial to this sport regaining popularity.

Darien

10-10-2007, 02:09 PM

Can't forget Apollo Creed.
He's dead. Let him go.

BigReg

10-10-2007, 02:13 PM

Nobody is interested in the HW division because Wlad happens to be the only real good fighter, there's no other fighter who can be considered a true threat to him at this time but when he does fight, people are watching..

Fighters like Delahoya may cause alot of attention to the casual fans but ehy always get disapointed. People were disapointed by Hoya/Floyd, but when they see Wlad or pacman, they get drawn to the sport.

So how is Wlad important if he's fighting in a division that you claim no one is interested? Wlad is big in Eastern Europe, that's it. To be truly important in this sport, you have to be big in the States. Most casual fans I know just know Klitscho as the big Russian. The only fighters that alot of casual fans know is Holyfield, Roy Jones, Mayweather, and De La Hoya.

BewareofDawg

10-10-2007, 02:15 PM

i see the point in odlh, but i feel cotto is as of now because he is bringing new fans in, and creating the biggest buzz in boxing as far as the casual fan is concerned. oscar was in the past , but now the torch seems to be going to cotto.
New fans? All he's doing is getting SOME of Trinidads fans interested again.

BigReg

10-10-2007, 02:15 PM

PPV in the states you mean..

PPV worldwide you have to count that

PAC has the most number of fans though..

No, Pac does not have the most fans. He's big in the Filipines but that's it. The Filipines is a great country, but you cannot be the most important fighter in the sport with jus the backing of the Filipines

sandwichsurgeon

10-10-2007, 02:17 PM

You can talk PPV all you want at the end of the day Floyd is the flagship fighter and the main representitive of the sport (if we are only talking active fighters).

Zhaakal

10-10-2007, 02:22 PM

De La Hoya or Mayweather couse they are the most famous at the moment and can draw the largest amount of viewers

chimba

10-10-2007, 02:23 PM

No, Pac does not have the most fans. He's big in the Filipines but that's it. The Filipines is a great country, but you cannot be the most important fighter in the sport with jus the backing of the Filipines

Big Reg PAC is popular in the States and in Canada, relatively speaking (because lets face it Boxing aint where even Golf is at this point).

When the Undertaker walks you into the ring, you're known..Plus the 80 million or so fans in the Philippines. Thats 1/3 of the U.S. Population already:deal

By the way is the girl in the picture you posted flip?:hey

Chert

10-10-2007, 02:28 PM

No, Pac does not have the most fans. He's big in the Filipines but that's it. The Filipines is a great country, but you cannot be the most important fighter in the sport with jus the backing of the Filipines
pac is also attracting a lot of new Asian fans to the sport. boxing is still not that big in Asia so pac is very impt in promoting the sport in this part of the world. asia has the largest population of all the continents so when pac attracts new fans from this region then the better it is for the sport.

BigReg

10-10-2007, 03:02 PM

Not only the HW division but Im talking about BOxing in general. Guys like Wlad and PAcman can carry the sport because of their exciting style and clean cut personality, not only in American but universally. No on generate as much as delahoya but the casual fans only tune in to his fight out of curiousity but they feel cheated by the outcome. Floyd/Hoya generated over 1 million buys but how many casual fans you think actually felt that fight lived up to its hype? not many..

Wlad and Pacman are the fighters who can bring in new fans and take this sport to a new level.

Delahoya is just a big name at this point and he isn't going to bring in new fans to the sport.

DLH/Mayweather did over 2 million buys actually. If only 1/4 of the people who watched that fight were satisfied, that would still represent almost double the amount of people that watched Pac's last fight(in the states). Pac and Wlad are good fighters, but they're not as important as Floyd or Oscar.

TAM83

10-10-2007, 03:05 PM

Ricky Hatton is right up their as well. How many other fighters out there could attract the support he is getting for this fight in December?

10 to 15,000 of us are coming over for the fight in December from the UK. Most of us don't even have a ticket (me included:|)

Especially with it so close to Christmas, not many boxers can attract that kind of following.

10-10-2007, 03:07 PM

Mayweather.

BigReg

10-10-2007, 03:09 PM

Big Reg PAC is popular in the States and in Canada, relatively speaking (because lets face it Boxing aint where even Golf is at this point).

When the Undertaker walks you into the ring, you're known..Plus the 80 million or so fans in the Philippines. Thats 1/3 of the U.S. Population already:deal

By the way is the girl in the picture you posted flip?:hey

50 Cent walked Floyd into the ring, he's more popular than the Undertaker. The even if Pac had 80 million fans in the Philippines, that's still only 1/4 the U.S population.

The girl in the picture is Laotian

Chert

10-10-2007, 03:10 PM

DLH/Mayweather did over 2 million buys actually. If only 1/4 of the people who watched that fight were satisfied, that would still represent almost double the amount of people that watched Pac's last fight(in the states). Pac and Wlad are good fighters, but they're not as important as Floyd or Oscar.
boxing may be centered in the US but for the sport to survive, it has to tap into new markets. this is where pac comes in attracting new fans in a region where the sport isn't that big yet, asia. and we all know that asia has the biggest population so the potential for boxing to grow by tapping into this market is enourmous.

chimba

10-10-2007, 03:13 PM

50 Cent walked Floyd into the ring, he's more popular than the Undertaker. The even if Pac had 80 million fans in the Philippines, that's still only 1/4 the U.S population.

The girl in the picture is Laotian

Yes but 280 million in the states couldnt care less about Boxing. 50 million watches in the Philippines.

That girl is cute..You still friends?

BigReg

10-10-2007, 05:54 PM

Yes but 280 million in the states couldnt care less about Boxing. 50 million watches in the Philippines.

That girl is cute..You still friends?

She's one of my best friends girlfriend, so I'm friends with her, but of course that's it.

Bangis

10-10-2007, 06:04 PM

each fighter is just as important as any other... IMO you cant single out PAC, ODLH, PBF, WLAD or any other boxers as the most important to the sport because if they stopped boxing today... it is just natural for the sport to find new stars... so for me everyone is important from the journeyman to the contender to the superstar.

BoardBULLY

10-10-2007, 07:01 PM

AMIR KHAN. If he continues winning he could be delahoya liek

Punisher33

10-10-2007, 07:13 PM

I guess Delahoya beacause he brings in the highest ppv numbers, while Wlad might be the champ he has never been on PPV before and his brother has, I feel Vitali brought more people to the sport with his style cause he was actually able to slug it out with his oppenents without falling 3 or 4 times.

jopez707

10-10-2007, 07:33 PM

DlH without a doubt, after the "Golden 1"....its probably PBF, Cotto, and Pavlik.

Amsterdam

10-10-2007, 07:56 PM

DLH is not an ATG. Hoya-addicts get on my nerves.

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The most known is DLH, he is the face of the sport in America, however sad that is. Mijares should be the face of boxing, he'd crush any opponent from 112-118 for the next 4 years.:deal