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Expert
06-26-2007, 07:51 PM
like Mayweather, de la Hoya, Pacquiao, rite?

stake501
06-26-2007, 07:57 PM
Like Hamed

Expert
06-26-2007, 07:58 PM
Like Hamed


yes

GazOC
06-26-2007, 08:07 PM
Good fighters can also dominate one division.

Amsterdam
06-26-2007, 08:11 PM
Good fighters can also dominate one division.

Like Tszyu, whom easily ranks higher than Hamed.

Strike
06-26-2007, 08:16 PM
yes

Hamed didn't win titles at three weight divisions, unless you mean any title like the Commonwealth. Most people when they talk of a 3 weight champion are referring to World titles.

Expert
06-26-2007, 08:22 PM
unless you mean any title like the Commonwealth.

yes

thunder06
06-26-2007, 08:25 PM
what about hagler?

Max Molyneux
06-26-2007, 08:57 PM
Duke McKenzie.

Max Molyneux
06-26-2007, 08:58 PM
like Mayweather, de la Hoya, Pacquiao, rite?

You kept posting about how If Larios could hurt Pacquiao then so would Hamed or something like that.

While I think prime Hamed when Ingle trained would beat Pac, you sound like some teenage asian who says things like Wicked.

Expert
06-26-2007, 09:12 PM
what about hagler?



Not as good as Hearns, Leonard...

Expert
06-26-2007, 09:13 PM
Duke McKenzie.



Yes, like Duke McKenzie.

NOrth
06-27-2007, 03:19 AM
Rubbish! A fighter can be great by dominating one weight division. Where has the insitance for weight hopping come from?

Jimmy Wilde is possibly the greatest fighter to ever come from our shores... he never won titles at 3 weights.

Mook
06-27-2007, 05:23 AM
Yeah, that Hagler was shit.

bollox to this thread.

Amsterdam
06-27-2007, 05:25 AM
Not as good as Hearns, Leonard...

But you believe that Hamed is superior to Hearns and Leonard.

PowerPuncher
06-27-2007, 06:47 AM
Like Tszyu, whom easily ranks higher than Hamed.

No he doesn't BUT a fighter only needs to dominate 1 division to be great

stake501
06-27-2007, 07:50 AM
No he doesn't BUT a fighter only needs to dominate 1 division to be great


Like Lewis :bbb

brown bomber
06-27-2007, 12:02 PM
Arguello
Duran
Hearns
Leonard
Armstrong
Delahoya
Mayweather
Jones jr
Toney
Pacman Wheres Castillo?

Expert
06-27-2007, 07:02 PM
But you believe that Hamed is superior to Hearns and Leonard.

could be

China_hand_Joe
06-27-2007, 07:09 PM
like Mayweather, de la Hoya, Pacquiao, rite?The fact that Joe Calzaghe does indeed exist, simply Lacys this thread.

Expert
06-28-2007, 02:58 AM
Wheres Castillo?


checked this link? its good but has to be updated
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TBooze
06-28-2007, 06:51 AM
Many have won titles at three different weights, though few have been World Chanpion at three weights, no one has at four.

Expert
06-28-2007, 05:18 PM
Many have won titles at three different weights, though few have been World Chanpion at three weights, no one has at four.


what???

GazOC
06-28-2007, 05:26 PM
He's right...

TBooze
06-28-2007, 05:27 PM
what???

Winning alphabet crap does not make you a World Champion. No fighter has ever won four World Championships and indeed few have won three (the last being Henry Armstrong).

Expert
06-28-2007, 06:23 PM
Winning alphabet crap does not make you a World Champion. No fighter has ever won four World Championships and indeed few have won three (the last being Henry Armstrong).


can you explain a bit more?

brown bomber
06-28-2007, 07:12 PM
checked this link? its good but has to be updated
[Only registered and activated users can see links] It was a dig at JLC the ESB user but thanks anyway bud!

Expert
06-28-2007, 07:59 PM
It was a dig at JLC the ESB user but thanks anyway bud!

your welcome, and its a good list that has to be updated, rite?

Expert
06-29-2007, 01:25 AM
He's right...


why?

can you be more specific?

Expert
06-29-2007, 02:21 AM
Winning alphabet crap does not make you a World Champion. No fighter has ever won four World Championships and indeed few have won three (the last being Henry Armstrong).


What would you say about Hatton if he beats Sergeii Dzinziruk for the WBO Light Middleweight Title or Travis Simms for the WBA Light Middleweight Title.

What would you say about him if he does something like that?

Expert
06-29-2007, 02:22 AM
He's right...

What would you say about Hatton if he beats Sergeii Dzinziruk for the WBO Light Middleweight Title or Travis Simms for the WBA Light Middleweight Title.

What would you say about him if he does something like that?

TBooze
06-29-2007, 03:34 AM
can you explain a bit more?

Many fighters win titles or pieces of alphabet crap, but few actually win World Championships.

Take Hearns, people say he won titles in six weight divisons (147, 154, 160, 168, 175, 190); but he was only World Champion in one (154)

At 147 he beat Cuevas, but the Welterweight Championship belonged to Leonard at the time (who beat Benitez who had beaten Palomino who had etc alway back to Kid Gavilan who won the vacant Championship after Robinson moved up to 160lbs).

At 154 he won the championship when as #1 contender he beat #2 contender Roberto Duran to win the vacant championship.

At 160 he beat Roldan, but at the time Ray Loenard had beaten Hagler for the championship.

At 168 he beat Kinchen yet Fulgancio Oblemejias was World Champion at the time.

At 175 he beat Andries and Hill, yet the championship was vacant at the times (Spinks having moved up to Heavyweight)

And the only 190lbs World Champ, Evander Holyfield vacated his championship the moment he won the vacant crown from Carlos DeLeon in 1988.

Expert
06-29-2007, 04:03 AM
Many fighters win titles or pieces of alphabet crap, but few actually win World Championships.

Take Hearns, people say he won titles in six weight divisons (147, 154, 160, 168, 175, 190); but he was only World Champion in one (154)

At 147 he beat Cuevas, but the Welterweight Championship belonged to Leonard at the time (who beat Benitez who had beaten Palomino who had etc alway back to Kid Gavilan who won the vacant Championship after Robinson moved up to 160lbs).

At 154 he won the championship when as #1 contender he beat #2 contender Roberto Duran to win the vacant championship.

At 160 he beat Roldan, but at the time Ray Loenard had beaten Hagler for the championship.

At 168 he beat Kinchen yet Fulgancio Oblemejias was World Champion at the time.

At 175 he beat Andries and Hill, yet the championship was vacant at the times (Spinks having moved up to Heavyweight)

And the only 190lbs World Champ, Evander Holyfield vacated his championship the moment he won the vacant crown from Carlos DeLeon in 1988.

fine.

But what your basically saying is that if Hatton beats, say, Sergeii Dzinziruk for the WBO Light Middleweight Title that title would be just a piece of alphabet crap?

If yes, I do disagree with you

TBooze
06-29-2007, 04:51 PM
fine.

But what your basically saying is that if Hatton beats, say, Sergeii Dzinziruk for the WBO Light Middleweight Title that title would be just a piece of alphabet crap?

If yes, I do disagree with you

Then we disagree; as I write Winky Wright at 154lbs would be the only way Hatton could win a World Championship at that weight.

Expert
06-29-2007, 05:34 PM
Then we disagree; as I write Winky Wright at 154lbs would be the only way Hatton could win a World Championship at that weight.

fine

1fletch
07-19-2007, 07:17 PM
Yeah, like Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, Kostya Tszyu, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON what a load of bollocks that statement is

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