View Full Version : AP Report: Peter calls out Wladamir Klitschko
swedeone
10-10-2007, 09:49 PM
Associated Press: October 7, 2007
"Peter said he will be ready to fight again in two months, but it's more likely his share of the heavyweight title -- there are three other champions, as well -- won't be on the line until early next year. He mentioned Maskaev and IBF champ Wladimir Klitschko as potential opponents. Klitschko is the only man to beat Peter, who is 29-1. "Anybody that will be ready, I'll be ready in two months," Peter said. "Klitschko, if he's ready I am ready."
I think this would be great because BOTH guys would be able to stop the other in my opinion with Wlad, clearly, being a big favorite. Let's get it on!
:happy
RUSKULL
10-10-2007, 09:52 PM
I think he meant Vitali
:rofl
Either way Peter is fucked...................:lol:
RUSKULL
10-10-2007, 09:54 PM
Wladimir should wait for a Peter fight to be worthwhile, as in Peter having the real WBC belt, not the paper interim one that he now has.
Vitali should take Peter up on the offer though. He should be ready within 2 months or so.
RUSKULL
10-10-2007, 09:55 PM
Damn strait
It's all just tough talk a la James Toney. If Peter is smart he'll fight Maskaev next to legitimize his belt. Right now beating Peter ain't worth nearly as much.
andyZOR
10-10-2007, 09:57 PM
Vitali KO 10.
Dr Gonzo
10-10-2007, 09:57 PM
Peter would get owned by a huge right hand :hi
RUSKULL
10-10-2007, 10:04 PM
Peter should fight the rightful owner of the WBC title which is Oleg Maskaev.
Exactly. Right now he's just borrowing the WBC title.
Punisher33
10-10-2007, 10:12 PM
If its Vitali why bother, the guy cant even make it past training let alone a fight. If its Wlad its a very interesting match up, Wlad is the obvious favorite but Peter still can put on his ass and possibly out for good. Wlad is the supreme boxer, but has the weaker of the 2 chins. The first fight was exciting and competitive, I would love to see the rematch.
SteveO
10-10-2007, 10:16 PM
After the fight on Saturday, I am convinced that Peter's chances against Wlad are not that great.
But he can KO the good doctor. He CAN do it.
Heavyrighthand
10-10-2007, 10:17 PM
Wladimir should wait for a Peter fight to be worthwhile, as in Peter having the real WBC belt, not the paper interim one that he now has.
Vitali should take Peter up on the offer though. He should be ready within 2 months or so.
Right.
But the next fight that Peter will be in will obviously be Oleg Maskaev. Maskaev will be healed and ready to rumble by early next year.
I think we'll see Maskaev and Peter go at it, then Vitali will fight the winner. :good
But I wonder if the healed Vitali will wait for the winner, which probably won't be ready til mid to late 2008, or attempt another comeback fight in the meantime............? You'd think he'd take a warmup fight, first, rather than sit idle for that much longer, seeing as how his back is probably supposed to be healed and ready for training to restart in about three more weeks.
BoxingGuru
10-10-2007, 10:26 PM
Peter is not ready. He took an ass whooping in that fight he ain't ready to fight anyone.
codeman99998
10-10-2007, 10:30 PM
Peter should fight Oleg first?
Because all he has is a "paper championship?"
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
Every champ right now is only a "paper champion". Peter is ranked #2 by a majority of people, and Wlad looks all but unbeatable. You guys think the #1 and #2 HW shouldn't fight for the true HW championship of the world, based on a technicality?
Wlad MIGHT AS WELL already be the champion of the heavyweight division. Let's hurry up and make it official so we can FINALLY have a true lineage again. Jesus Christ.
Heavyrighthand
10-10-2007, 10:34 PM
You guys think the #1 and #2 HW shouldn't fight for the true HW championship of the world, based on a technicality?
.
What technicality is standing in the way of Wlad fighting Chagaev?
( ......you did say the #1 and #2, didn't you?........) :good
BoxingGuru
10-10-2007, 10:35 PM
What technicality is standing in the way of Wlad fighting Chagaev?
( ......you did say the #1 and #2, didn't you?........) :good
Exactly. Scam Cheater is not #2 in the world. No one who gets knocked around the ring by Jameel McCline is #2 in the world.
Warfist
10-10-2007, 10:38 PM
Either of the brothers would probably KO him within 7-8 rounds. Wlad is steadily improving in skill and confidence since the Peter fight, and Vitaly's akward style would befuddle Peter all night long. Vitaly seems like hes the harder one to hit cleanly but Wlad punches harder and is more technically polished imo. Either way I can't see peter beating either of them at this point. Of course I am assuming Vitaly would fightas effectively as he did when he retired....
codeman99998
10-10-2007, 10:40 PM
What technicality is standing in the way of Wlad fighting Chagaev?
( ......you did say the #1 and #2, didn't you?........) :good
Hey, I am all in favor of Wlad fighting Chagaev too.
Wlad looks unbeatable now, sure. What is the most important thing in my mind now is CROWNING a heavyweight champion, whether it be Wladimir, or Chagaev, or Ibragimov, or even Peter, I don't really care. Frankly, it doesn't really matter WHO the HW champ is, because even if they aren't the best, they are boung to lose to someone better, and then THEY are bound to lose to someone better until we have a true champion.
John Sullivan PROBABLY wasn't ACTUALLY the best boxer in the world, after all. But through him, we found out who was.
But we can only have a universally recognized champ win the paper chumps start fighting each other.
markbrooklyn
10-10-2007, 10:44 PM
The only reason Peter is calling Klitschko out is because he wants a big payday before he gets knocked out by a bum. If Jameel McCline almost KTFO then pretty much any decent heavyweight with pop could do it too.
psychopath
10-10-2007, 10:49 PM
Fight the right fight first before calling out other names.
Peter/Maskaev!
Marnoff
10-10-2007, 11:58 PM
Wladimir should wait for a Peter fight to be worthwhile, as in Peter having the real WBC belt, not the paper interim one that he now has.
I agree. It would be a waste for Klitschko to rematch before there is unification on the line.
Zakman
10-11-2007, 12:03 AM
Peter should fight Oleg first?
Because all he has is a "paper championship?"
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
Every champ right now is only a "paper champion". Peter is ranked #2 by a majority of people, and Wlad looks all but unbeatable. You guys think the #1 and #2 HW shouldn't fight for the true HW championship of the world, based on a technicality?
Wlad MIGHT AS WELL already be the champion of the heavyweight division. Let's hurry up and make it official so we can FINALLY have a true lineage again. Jesus Christ.
Exactly. It continually amazes me that any boxing fans give any legitimacy to the bogus sanctioning orgs and their illegitimate title belts. Who cares? Let the best fight the best to determine who "the man" in the division is.
Just like it USED to be.:yep
brooklyn1550
10-11-2007, 12:33 AM
He wont beat either Klitschko, but if he wants to face them and soon, then he is a credit to the sport of boxing...a true champion who is willing to take risks. Whether or not Duva and King will let him face the Klitschkos is another story.
If Wlad canīt unify he should box Peter.
Two young heavyweights will fight :happy :happy :happy
The two "old" man Maskaev and Vitali can fight for the WBC belt and Vitali can make the Klitschko dream came true and then retire again.
Stinky gloves
10-11-2007, 12:55 AM
Definitely Peter should fight Vitly first to earn shot at Wlad.
Seriously he got gift with this iterim title and his first defense
against undeserving contender was very unimpressive.
Lets Peter pay for the gift first and earn his shot at Wlad.
swedeone
10-11-2007, 06:42 AM
Definitely Peter should fight Vitly first to earn shot at Wlad.
Seriously he got gift with this iterim title and his first defense
against undeserving contender was very unimpressive.
Lets Peter pay for the gift first and earn his shot at Wlad.
WTF has Vitali done to deserve that fight?????? :huh
Let him fight a few bums first before he gets a title shot. All he has done over the past few years is retire, eat bon bons and not be able to make it through a single training camp.
Pa-leeeeeeeeeze. :-(
Two months?, is Peter crazy?, he just came out of a tough 12 round battle that he got hurt BADLY in and knocked down 3 times, he needs a rest before fighting again or he will get knocked out next, ESPECIALLY against Klitschko.
Mendoza
10-11-2007, 07:01 AM
Vitali KO 10.
Vitlai in 10? Judging by the way McCline hurt Peter, Vitlai takes him out much sooner. McCline, who was much older and comming off an injury exposed Peter. Now the entire boxing community will fear Peter much less. Fighters will enter the ring knowing if they land some punches, Peter can and will go down.
The question is can Vitali stay healthy? I think an estimated 250+ combat matches in the amateur and professional kick boxing, and boxing has taken its toll on Vitali’s body.
Vitali’s body has probably been hit or kicked 7,500 in the ring in organized matches by heavyweights, and this does not include any of the tens of thousands of rounds sparred. The next time a writer opens his mouth about Vitlai being injured, someone should ask them if they ever were in the ring and have been hit in their life.
shavers
10-11-2007, 07:41 AM
Peter is along the King boat. SO he will probably fight some King bum, forget about unifying as long as king is with him.
codeman99998
10-11-2007, 08:04 AM
What indication is there that a rematch will be any less of a one-sided beatdown than the first fight? Why is there even any interest in a rematch? Peter hasn't improved, and Wlad hasn't declined... actually he's imrpoved if anything which will just widen the gap between them. The first fight wasn't competitive at all, Wlad dominated each round from 0:00-3:00 when he wasn't getting clubbed behind the head in clinches. I would much rather see both Peter and Wlad fight different names at this point, as all answers have been given as to who is better in their first fight.
The intrigue of a rematch may come from people wanting to see the #1 and #2 HW's fight each other in the highest degree in skill, but after an initially unproven Peter's embarassing scraping by against McCline of all people, it's clear he isn't #2... one of the 3 other beltholders is. I would like Wlad to have a unification fight next although I don't see that happening for his immediate next fight, however after that it should. I think Holyfield will win the belt, and would not like to see Wlad fight against him, but the other 2 for sure. We need unification especially in a weak, spread out HW scene like right now.
That HAS to be bologna. He was #2 before he fought McCline. He BEAT McCline. Therefore he is still #2.
Marquito_666
10-11-2007, 09:35 AM
Until I see significant improvement from Peter, imo a rematch with wlad isn´t really interesting.
MrMagic
10-11-2007, 09:37 AM
It's all just tough talk a la James Toney. If Peter is smart he'll fight Maskaev next to legitimize his belt. Right now beating Peter ain't worth nearly as much.
Maskaev would knock Peter out now.
Vitali would do the same, I think this is Vitali's best chance at getting the WBC, he needs to act quickly though.
BewareofDawg
10-11-2007, 09:39 AM
:rofl
Either way Peter is fucked...................:lol:
Proper Fucked :yep
Stezzie
10-11-2007, 10:55 AM
Fight the right fight first before calling out other names.
Peter/Maskaev!
But Maskeav won't fight him...I say screw waiting another year for Mask to get injured again and retire...stay busy and get in the ring with whoever you can...
codeman99998
10-11-2007, 12:53 PM
Why was he #2? Was it his win over... 39 year old, 235 pound James Toney who was so done at that point he hardly got by an unknown journeyman 4 months after Peter beat him... not to mention the previous SD that I had scored for Toney. It has to be that since there is no other name in his career he has beaten to get ranked #2 in the world, especially when there are 3 other BELTHOLDERS. Or was he ranked #2 off of the ass beating he got from Klitschko?
Peter was clearly never #2.
Dude, I actually agree 100%. I PERSONALLY didn't have him ranked #2, but a whole helluva lot of people did.
I thought, and still think, Sam Peter was a total fraud. He doesn't train hard enough and he isn't nearly as powerful as people think he is, couple that with a lack of boxing skills, you have a total fraud at HW.
But it doesn't matter what I personally think, I think the broad majority opinion had him at #2.
Armo_Ruski
10-11-2007, 01:37 PM
any chance peter faces chagaev next?? that would be an interesting fight, i think wlad should fight the winner of holyfield/ibragimov.. thats how i'd like to see it go down
sues2nd
10-11-2007, 01:39 PM
:rofl
Either way Peter is fucked...................:lol:
Ive said it...I will always say it. I favor Wlad vs ANY HW out there. He is a monster.
But against a heavy hitter, he ALWAYS has a chance of losing. He can be hurt and already has been by Peter.
My pick would still be Wlad, but anyone just counting Sam or any big puncher out vs him isnt looking at the big picture.
Thread Stealer
10-11-2007, 02:09 PM
Wlad would probably beat Peter again, maybe even worse.
Vitali is not worth signing a fight against unless they get a good guarantee of making money regardless if the fight falls through. Vitali's body can't take it anymore so basically his presence is just taking time and attention away from possible matchups that can take place.
Ambition_Def
10-11-2007, 02:31 PM
Proper Fucked :yep
A bit queer today are you?
No different than any other day! :hi:
Cruiser1
10-11-2007, 02:43 PM
All i know is that Vitali Klitschko has no business factoring into the equation after pulling out for the 5th time in a row from a fight. He cost 2 fighters both time and money although McCline did get a title shot out of the deal.
I don't blame Peter for anything that has happened. He's not the one backing out of fights and avoiding people. I'm sure Maskaev is just chomping at the bit now after seeing the McCline fight. Too bad his chin is still suspect against anyone not named Hasim Rahman. If you think Maskaev will beat Peter you're sadly mistaken. Everybody thinks Peter's chin is shaky now. When you get hit by an uppercut by a guy as big as McCline it's gonna resonate throughout your body. Peter will still walk through big right hands, which is all Oleg really has to begin with. He developed a nice left hook recently but at the end of the day his right hand is his bread and butter punch.
Punisher33
10-11-2007, 03:45 PM
All i know is that Vitali Klitschko has no business factoring into the equation after pulling out for the 5th time in a row from a fight. He cost 2 fighters both time and money although McCline did get a title shot out of the deal.
I don't blame Peter for anything that has happened. He's not the one backing out of fights and avoiding people. I'm sure Maskaev is just chomping at the bit now after seeing the McCline fight. Too bad his chin is still suspect against anyone not named Hasim Rahman. If you think Maskaev will beat Peter you're sadly mistaken. Everybody thinks Peter's chin is shaky now. When you get hit by an uppercut by a guy as big as McCline it's gonna resonate throughout your body. Peter will still walk through big right hands, which is all Oleg really has to begin with. He developed a nice left hook recently but at the end of the day his right hand is his bread and butter punch. good post, the fact Peter wants to get back in the ring again as soon as possible is a good sign that the knockdown didnt really bother him too much. I think Peter could still knockout most fighters with a suspect chin like Maskaev,Wlad if he catches him, and Golota, Peter will come into his next fight better than ever.
RUSKULL
10-11-2007, 09:01 PM
Peter should fight Oleg first?
Because all he has is a "paper championship?"
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
Every champ right now is only a "paper champion". Peter is ranked #2 by a majority of people, and Wlad looks all but unbeatable. You guys think the #1 and #2 HW shouldn't fight for the true HW championship of the world, based on a technicality?
Wlad MIGHT AS WELL already be the champion of the heavyweight division. Let's hurry up and make it official so we can FINALLY have a true lineage again. Jesus Christ.
Peter didn't even fight anyone & he was granted with the WBC interim championship.
RUSKULL
10-11-2007, 09:05 PM
Why was he #2? Was it his win over... 39 year old, 235 pound James Toney who was so done at that point he hardly got by an unknown journeyman 4 months after Peter beat him... not to mention the previous SD that I had scored for Toney. It has to be that since there is no other name in his career he has beaten to get ranked #2 in the world, especially when there are 3 other BELTHOLDERS. Or was he ranked #2 off of the ass beating he got from Klitschko?
Peter was clearly never #2.
Exactly. I've been saying Peter hasn't earned the #2 spot since he never fought to get his belt, and 4 other guys did. He was no higher than #5 IMO before he almost lost to McCline.
RUSKULL
10-11-2007, 09:08 PM
Ive said it...I will always say it. I favor Wlad vs ANY HW out there. He is a monster.
But against a heavy hitter, he ALWAYS has a chance of losing. He can be hurt and already has been by Peter.
My pick would still be Wlad, but anyone just counting Sam or any big puncher out vs him isnt looking at the big picture.
Agreed, this is HW boxing after all, Tommy Morrison once said that any guy over 200 lbs. can knock another guy out if he throws his punches just right..................or something like that.
cuchulain
10-11-2007, 09:25 PM
Vitali KO 10.
Assuming Vitali is healthy and close to where he was when he left off (gigantic assumptions, I'll admit), Vitali KO in 1, maybe 2.
I forgot about ring rust. 4.
cuchulain
10-11-2007, 09:29 PM
Am I right in thinking though that if Maskaev has got his balls back after seeing Peter dropped so many times that he would automatically fight Peter for the WBC belt?
just curious
Sounds about right.
If Maskaev is able and willing, Peter must fight him or the title reverts to Oleg.
Same for Oleg/Vitali.
If Vitali is ready and willing (a BIG if), Oleg (or Peter) must fight Vitali.
Heavyrighthand
10-11-2007, 10:00 PM
If you think Maskaev will beat Peter you're sadly mistaken..
Well, then I am sadly mistaken, cause I see Maskaev winning a TKO, or possibly KO, over Sammy Peter, late. :good
Peter sounds rediculous running his mouth callilng out those who've already hammered him (Wladimir). Cause Peter has other obligations, as everyone already knows............Peter is required to fight Maskaev, next.
Peter will get his ass whooped by Maskaev, and his interim title thing will disolve before it ever became a full title aquistion..
codeman99998
10-11-2007, 10:03 PM
Exactly. I've been saying Peter hasn't earned the #2 spot since he never fought to get his belt, and 4 other guys did. He was no higher than #5 IMO before he almost lost to McCline.
That's great dude. I've been saying it too.
But that's not the point.
Most people before the McCline fight had him at #2, and while you and I may have vehemently disagreed with them, that's how they had it. Peter beat McCline, so it only stands to reason that people will still have him at #2.
You or I could have Cotto ranked higher than Mayweather, but it wouldn't really matter would it?
Heavyrighthand
10-11-2007, 10:19 PM
That's great dude. I've been saying it too.
But that's not the point.
Most people before the McCline fight had him at #2, and while you and I may have vehemently disagreed with them, that's how they had it. Peter beat McCline, so it only stands to reason that people will still have him at #2.
But after they saw Chagaev beat Ruiz, then Valuev, adn retain an unbeaten record, you would assume that any reasonable and prudent person would then rethink their reasoning on having Peter above Chagaev.
Chagaev is on another level than Peter is, and he's beaten better opposition. And more of them, too. Valuev, Virchis, and Ruiz. That certianly destroys Peter's win column, hands down.
Alo2006
10-12-2007, 12:05 AM
Peter needs to fight Maskaev first, then Klit :yep
Keihule
10-12-2007, 12:14 AM
Whats with all this Vitali bullshit? Vitali's not fighting, hes not even in the picture, he is a retired bum who cant make it through a training camp.
Sam Peter needs to get in there and kick Oleg's ass and get that belt. Then all these retarted sanctioning bodies need to swallow their pride and let the four heavyweight "champons" get in the ring and let Wald become what we all know he will be, the undisputed heavyweight champ.
All this garbage about Vitali coming back has got to go, the bum cant even make it through a training camp.
WiDDoW_MaKeR
10-12-2007, 12:24 AM
Peter and Oleg will be fighting. They won't let Peter just hang out and fight whoever he wants with that Interm title. The WBC will order Peter vs Maskaev immediately. Peter will take that fight, because there is no way that he would just drop that title.
RUSKULL
10-12-2007, 07:10 AM
Whats with all this Vitali bullshit? Vitali's not fighting, hes not even in the picture, he is a retired bum who cant make it through a training camp.
Sam Peter needs to get in there and kick Oleg's ass and get that belt. Then all these retarted sanctioning bodies need to swallow their pride and let the four heavyweight "champons" get in the ring and let Wald become what we all know he will be, the undisputed heavyweight champ.
All this garbage about Vitali coming back has got to go, the bum cant even make it through a training camp.
Vitali is not a bum, he could buy & sell you.
RUSKULL
10-12-2007, 07:11 AM
Peter and Oleg will be fighting. They won't let Peter just hang out and fight whoever he wants with that Interm title. The WBC will order Peter vs Maskaev immediately. Peter will take that fight, because there is no way that he would just drop that title.
That's what the WBC should do but will they? You just never know with them................
RUSKULL
10-12-2007, 07:12 AM
Peter needs to fight Maskaev first, then Klit :yep
Ezactly.
BTW, that's some meaty ass in your avatar! :hey :tong
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