View Full Version : do you think byrd can win?
Vantage_West
10-11-2007, 08:34 AM
well do you...TALK BITCH/S
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BoxingGuru
10-11-2007, 08:39 AM
No. Byrd has declined severely. His best win in 5 years is against a 40 year old retired Mariccino Cherry.
1-Ton
10-11-2007, 08:44 AM
Its difficult to tell whether Byrd has significantly declined due to his inactivity in recent years (thanks to Don King?). If he holds form, I think he beats an inexperienced Povetikin by decision. If he has lost a step, Povetkin will get to him. Either way, the fight goes the distance thanks to Byrd's defense.
Vantage_West
10-11-2007, 08:47 AM
to cruiser i say...be the first heavywieght champion in history to go down in wieght and win a title!!!!!
SteveO
10-11-2007, 09:15 AM
Hard to say. A top form Byrd can be trouble, but is he top form anymore?
MrMagic
10-11-2007, 09:38 AM
Manny Steward had it right:
"Chris Byrd is a dangerous opponent for anyone out there"
Chris can beat anyone but Wladimir.
BoxingGuru
10-11-2007, 10:59 AM
Manny Steward had it right:
"Chris Byrd is a dangerous opponent for anyone out there"
Chris can beat anyone but Wladimir.
No he can't. He lost to Oquendo and was gifted. He lost to Golota and was gifted, and was dropped by McCline and should have lost that fight too.
Byrd touched the canvas three times against Golota and none of them counted as knockdowns.
jsimps
10-11-2007, 11:02 AM
When Byrd was just coming up, he looked extremely dangerous. A slick boxer who had great defense. Now, I think he needs to move down in weight to become great.
Dorfmeister
10-11-2007, 11:14 AM
He most definitely can and has the upper hand towards this eliminator, but the period of inactivity and the Klitschko fight won't produce any benefits to his approach... I can clearly see Byrd doing the same to Sasha as he did to Tua, beating his man to the punch and following it up with flashy shots, getting off and shaking off Povetkin's fire-power.
marting
10-11-2007, 11:22 AM
Manny Steward had it right:
"Chris Byrd is a dangerous opponent for anyone out there"
Chris can beat anyone but Wladimir.
Not that he's all wrong on this one but Steward also said Pavlik was an ordinary fighter.
Asterion
10-11-2007, 11:37 AM
Byrd UD12
MrMagic
10-11-2007, 11:45 AM
Not that he's all wrong on this one but Steward also said Pavlik was an ordinary fighter.
Well yeah, but Taylor is his fighter and Byrd isn't.. that counts for something alright. :good
Ambition_Def
10-11-2007, 11:47 AM
Povetkin may be one of three to knock Byrd out.
But that isn't saying much. Byrd has been past his best for some time now, dating back to the McCline fight.
I don't expect Byrd to win. Infact I am hoping he doesn't. Povetkin is the future.
Cruiser1
10-11-2007, 12:03 PM
No matter how much Byrd has declned it's still a huge step up in class for Povetkin and the fight will be close. Byrd's definitely one of those fighters who is capable of using his experience and ring smarts to compensate for his fading reflexes. He'll get hit often but he'll be there all night and Povetkin has his work cut out for him.
geppy
10-11-2007, 12:15 PM
Povetkin is a very precise puncher, he puts combinations together beatifully. I think Povetkin matches up well against Byrd, it is wild crude fighters that swing and miss against Byrd.
Byrd stands right infront of you, but the problem is he is losing some of his elusiveness. I remember seeing a tv peice that Byrd learned to box in a very small ring in his basement. To this day he still stands infront of opponents, tries to make them miss then counter punch. I just dont think Povetkin is going to miss much , and Byrd is going to have trouble coutering while getting hit.
geppy
10-11-2007, 03:10 PM
Golota hurt Byrd several times with body shots. I expect Povetkin , who is no fool , to dig to the body, and then work upstairs. Povetkin likes to throw punches in bunches . I beleive that is an effective way to fight Byrd.
Dorfmeister
10-11-2007, 03:23 PM
Golota hurt Byrd several times with body shots. I expect Povetkin , who is no fool , to dig to the body, and then work upstairs. Povetkin likes to throw punches and bunches . I beleive that is an effective way to fight Byrd.
Not for Jameel who threw in bunches but missed most and couldn't finish the annoying lil man, faded down the stretch in MSG Night of the HWTs like it would happen AGAIN in another title fight later... Byrd is no Imamu Mayfield, Geppy! I never could understand how Golota could connect and then drew that fight though...
Punisher33
10-11-2007, 03:29 PM
The reason why Bryd fought into such close fight with Golota, he was told by King to start fighting more exiting fights. If I remember correctly that fight was on spike tv, if Bryd would of stuck to his own game plan he would of beat Golota very easily.
Byrd has no chance of winning and very little chance of lasting the distance. He is insane for taking this match. He's never ducked anybody, but he should have ducked Povetkin. It is a horrible matchup for him in almost every way and if you watched Byrd's last few fights, you would see he has absolutely no chance.
geppy
10-11-2007, 03:35 PM
Not for Jameel who threw in bunches but missed most and couldn't finish the annoying lil man, faded down the stretch in MSG Night of the HWTs like it would happen AGAIN in another title fight later... Byrd is no Imamu Mayfield, Geppy! I never could understand how Golota could connect and then drew that fight though...
Admittingly, I didnt see the Byrd vs Mccline fight. I will take your word for it , but it is hard to beleive Mccline was throwing an abundance of punches. Usually Mccline is so very timid and gun shy about letting his hands go. Against Byrd he probably just had nothing to fear. You will see a difference between the combination punching of Mccline and Povetkin. That is not how Mccline usually likes to fight, but that is Povetkins specialty , combination punching.
sues2nd
10-11-2007, 03:38 PM
I think he WILL win. He is very good defensively and will create many problems for AP.
I think AP have ALL of the skills to do it...I just fear that its a little too much too soon.
Byrd UD.
geppy
10-11-2007, 03:50 PM
I think he WILL win. He is very good defensively and will create many problems for AP.
I think AP have ALL of the skills to do it...I just fear that its a little too much too soon.
Byrd UD.
No offense , but when was Byrd's last impressive defensive performance? He was hit alot by Oquendo, Golota, Klitschko, it sounds Mccline as well. Byrd seems to be getting hit alot more. TOS vs Byrd , I dont even consider a fight, neither deserved to be payed.
bumdujour
10-11-2007, 03:53 PM
i always believed that byrd could not beat a talented heavyweight.
he did good against the giant uncoordinated ones or against the fat slow ones.
now he is in decline and povetkin looks like a real talent with good size. this would have been a tall order for even a prime byrd.
i pick povetkin by onesided UD.
Ambition_Def
10-11-2007, 03:55 PM
Povetkin is the right mix of inside game, power, chin and determination to get Byrd out of there. And I believe he will.
Don't be surprised if Povetkin ends it on a left hook. :yep
oblate
10-11-2007, 11:24 PM
no he's become to hittable. all he had was his defense.
Povetkin's style is totally wrong for Byrd IMO.
I would give Byrd a good chance to beat Valuev,Virchis,or Peter,but Povetkin can bang,is fast,and throws combos quite often during a fight.A mobile puncher who can bang.Not an desirable opponent for Byrd!
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