Fedor ducking the UFC ? You guys can't be serious.

[boxingcar]

WHY in the fuck would Fedor DUCK the UFC?
There's NO ONE in UFC's HW division. NO ONE.

Brock Lesnar maybe? (do you think a guy like fedor honestly gives a shit or even knows him?)

Gonzaga ? please!
Crocop ? Compare him to the 2005 version. I don't know about you people , but as far as i'm concerned. I don't even want to see a rematch between these two. That's how bad Filipovic looks now. To the point where he shouldn't even be ranked in the top 10.

Kongo? lol
Nogueira ? He couldn't do it in his prime , and he's not gonna do it now.
Arlovski? double lol.
Sylvia? :patsch
Herring ? :-(
Mir? Vera ?

That division is dead.

Couture? too fuckin old. And He's not even in the UFC anymore.
He's RETIRED (again).

Emelianenko is getting $10Million in M1.

The guy is basically the only mma fighter who's getting paid like a professional boxer. Can you blame him ?

Seriously who in the fuck was Fedor gonna fight in the UFC ? Werdum?
Barnett is not in the ufc & nor is Kharitonov.

[concrete sledge]

WHY in the fuck would Fedor DUCK the UFC?
There's NO ONE in UFC's HW division. NO ONE.

Brock Lesnar maybe? (do you think a guy like fedor honestly gives a shit or even knows him?)

Gonzaga ? please!
Crocop ? Compare him to the 2005 version. I don't know about you people , but as far as i'm concerned. I don't even want to see a rematch between these two. That's how bad Filipovic looks now. To the point where he shouldn't even be ranked in the top 10.

Kongo? lol
Nogueira ? He couldn't do it in his prime , and he's not gonna do it now.
Arlovski? double lol.
Sylvia? :patsch
Herring ? :-(
Mir? Vera ?

That division is dead.

Couture? too fuckin old. And He's not even in the UFC anymore.
He's RETIRED (again).

Emelianenko is getting $10Million in M1.

The guy is basically the only mma fighter who's getting paid like a professional boxer. Can you blame him ?

Seriously who in the fuck was Fedor gonna fight in the UFC ? Werdum?
Barnett is not in the ufc & nor is Kharitonov.

Who the FUCK is he going to fight in his shitty little orginization? Tell me that!

He no longer wants any REAL competition. His last fight was against a Middleweight and he almost lost it. Yes, he's indeed ducking the UFC. He turned down numerous HUGE offers from several organizations for some shitty little club. Fighting shouldn't be entirely about money either.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Yea, nobody is in the UFC heavyweight division. Except of course for everybody besides Fedor.

[concrete sledge]

Yea, nobody is in the UFC heavyweight division. Except of course for everybody besides Fedor.

:rofl

:good

[Beebs]

Fedor has had 4 meaningless fights in a row, and with the exception of CroCop, has not had meaningful fight in almost 3 full years.

Ducking or not, he's not fighting anybody anymore.

[boxingcar]

Who the FUCK is he going to fight in his shitty little orginization? Tell me that!

He no longer wants any REAL competition. His last fight was against a Middleweight and he almost lost it. Yes, he's indeed ducking the UFC. He turned down numerous HUGE offers from several organizations for some shitty little club. Fighting shouldn't be entirely about money either.

WHAT Competition? WHO? WHOOOOO ?...
Personally ? I wanted to see him in K1's Heros , but it's not the case.
Yes i'm pissed but when i think about it. (and especially now that Couture is gone).

There's no point going over there now.
For the money ? Fuck no, He's officially the best paid MMA fighter in the history on this sport now.

I also would've loved to see a fight between him and Barnett but that guy ain't fighting in the UFC either.

[Beebs]

So your argument is that now that the people who lost to Fedor are either losing or looking bad in the UFC they are no good. Oh, its been too long of a time to compare them? Well, then maybe Fedor should FIGHT SOMEBODY IN THE LAST 3 YEARS.

[boxingcar]

So your argument is that now that the people who lost to Fedor are either losing or looking bad in the UFC they are no good. Oh, its been too long of a time to compare them? Well, then maybe Fedor should FIGHT SOMEBODY IN THE LAST 3 YEARS.

Here's what i'm saying...(can't make myself any clearer).

I'm saying that

1 There's nobody in ufc's hw division.
2 the only interesting fight will never happen. (couture is gone)
3 No need for rematchs
4 The 2nd best opponent (Barnett) is not in the UFC
5 He's getting paid way better where he's at now.

There's NO ONE.
And with couture who's out of the picture...this leaves us with Nogueira vs Kongo for the belt. or will Sylvia win back his belt ?

[AJAX]

You say there is nobody in the UFC? ok besides Barnett so who in the fuck else is there for him? some drunk Russians form a pub!!

[AJAX]

:good And quite frankly, I'm fucking tired of it.

Why the hell are you(boxingcar, ufoalf) defending a guy who refuses, whether scared or not, to fight the best comp?

I agree they act like the Guy deserves every break in the book, it's easy to keep a great legacy if you don't take big fights....or fight at all.

[Club Fighter]

If Fedor changed his name to Floyd Mayweather Jr. there would be about 10 hate threads dedicated to him right now. They would say he's bad for MMA. His legacy is shit. He hasn't fought anybody in X amount of years. He can't be p4p #1 until he starts fighting people. He needs to stop going after the money and make the fights that the people wanna see. He's a bitch, he's ducking Margarito (Oops, I meant Couture) because he knows Couture can beat him, etc . . .













and he can't dance.

[Beebs]

Here's what i'm saying...(can't make myself any clearer).

I'm saying that

1 There's nobody in ufc's hw division.
2 the only interesting fight will never happen. (couture is gone)
3 No need for rematchs
4 The 2nd best opponent (Barnett) is not in the UFC
5 He's getting paid way better where he's at now.

There's NO ONE.
And with couture who's out of the picture...this leaves us with Nogueira vs Kongo for the belt. or will Sylvia win back his belt ?

That is absolute bullshit, Gonzaga, Vera, Sylvia, Arlovski, Kongo and Werum, and Couture who was with the UFC when Fedor signed elsewhere, are ALL better than anybody Fedor has fought since CroCop. Not to mention that if you take away UFC fighters CroCop Nog and Herring, the only wins against current HW's that Fedor has that mean anything are Randleman, Coleman, and Schilt.

If theres nobody in the UFC, then theres nobody period, Barnett is coming off his 3rd loss to CroCop.

[ufoalf]

If Fedor changed his name to Floyd Mayweather Jr. there would be about 10 hate threads dedicated to him right now. They would say he's bad for MMA. His legacy is shit. He hasn't fought anybody in X amount of years. He can't be p4p #1 until he starts fighting people. He needs to stop going after the money and make the fights that the people wanna see. He's a bitch, he's ducking Margarito (Oops, I meant Couture) because he knows Couture can beat him, etc . . .

and he can't dance.

:rofl

So true.


Sweat Pea, its not Fedor who refused to sign, its UFC who refused to give the contract that they agreed upon :good.

[Beebs]

:rofl

So true.


Sweat Pea, its not Fedor who refused to sign, its UFC who refused to give the contract that they agreed upon :good.

Well Floyds fights against Zab and Gatti were worthless, just as Fedor's last 4 have been, those fights were bad for boxing as a whole, as Fedor's were bad for MMA as a whole.

And do you, me, or anybody else not involved know what the hell went on in 2+ weeks of negotiation? Do you really think all that negotiation was as simple as you are making it out to be?

[concrete sledge]

Again, someone answer me this...WHO THE FUCK WILL HE FIGHT IN HIS SHITTY LITTLE CLUB? We should have expected such a bitch move, he's been doing it for quite some time now.

He feels safe, got lots of money, but could have made even more, end of story.

[audio101]

I bet after the Pride mishap Dana didn't feel like investing that kind of money in a guy that might get exposed in his first fight. I hope all this Fedor hype finally ends.

[AJAX]

well he did beat a middle weight in his last fight.

[boxingcar]

Beebs...

Dude , you wanna talk about fedor's only meaningful fights ?
Go ahead , but let me remind you that this is MMA.
Not boxing. In other words (and you know it) , upsets are more frequent.
and it's a sport where C and B competition or the "cans" even have their chancesto pull a huge win. What i'm saying is that...

ALL of Fedor's fight are important. I don't think you realise this though.
OK , maybe not "all" (zulu anyone ? )
But 95% are. Don't just select the ones you've mentioned.

and if you're gonna play this game. Let's just follow this logic for a moment. Then let me prove my point...

Prime examples.
Couture vs "MEANINGLESS" competition.
LOST vs Enson Inoue ( he got subbbed in less than 2 minutes)
LOST vs Mikhail Illoukhine (got subbed in the first )
LOST vs Valentijn Overeem ( got subbed in less than a minute )

Arlovski vs "MEANINGLESS" competition
LOST vs Viacheslav Datsik (KOed in the first )

Hope you don't come up with some bullshit excuses like
"it was arlovski's first fight" or
"Couture wasn't as experienced back then".

Because the very same shit can be used for Fedor too.
Fedor ALSO had his "first" fight.
Fedor wasn't as experienced back then (compared to the guy from the 2003 - 2005 era )
But he still won his fucking fights.

No matter who it was...C , B , A competition. He past the tests.
Not everyone can say the same. And certainly not the guy in your avatar. You see , he had a past before the UFC too.

Now , sure Fedor's competition hasn't been looking too good recently.
I'll give you that. But there's still nobody in the UFC right now.

It's not worth fighting Crocop.
Kongo ? why? because of his victory over Crocop ?
Ok fine.. But we're still talking about the guy who already lost against Yvel here. Even Minowa defeated Yvel. Ok , you're gonna tell me this is just MMATH bullshit and it's true. But frankly , Kongo's win over crocop was as important as Gonzaga's... In other words as important as Danny williams and Kevin McBride's victories over a shot Tyson.

Vera ? who the fuck is he?

The way i see it. Barnett lost to crocop...true.
But he's also used to the octagon. and he already beat Nogueira and Couture. and he'd probably beat crocop today. (that's how bad crocop is now ). or maybe he can't take his steroids anymore or maybe it's the octagon...whatever it is..he looks like shit.

That's why , i'm only interested in seeing Fedor vs Barnett
Before that , i also wanted to see fedor vs Couture.

But that can't happen...

[ufoalf]

Well Floyds fights against Zab and Gatti were worthless, just as Fedor's last 4 have been, those fights were bad for boxing as a whole, as Fedor's were bad for MMA as a whole.

And do you, me, or anybody else not involved know what the hell went on in 2+ weeks of negotiation? Do you really think all that negotiation was as simple as you are making it out to be?

True and true. But at least I can back up the fact that "Fedor's refusal" to sign contract with what Finkelstein said about wrong contract even if it is with a grain of salt. Sweat Pea can't back up his "Fedor refused because he's scared."

[Beebs]

So anybody Fedor hasn't fought is no good, and anybody Fedor has fought was only good when he fought them?

The only good fighters are Fedor and Barnett, who lost 2 out of his last 3, to 2 of the not good fighters in his last 2 fights, but that doesn't count because they were in fact not "not good" fighters back then but are no longer good and no longer count.

Foolproof.

[concrete sledge]

Beebs...

Dude , you wanna talk about fedor's only meaningful fights ?
Go ahead , but let me remind you that this is MMA.
Not boxing. In other words (and you know it) , upsets are more frequent.
and it's a sport where C and B competition or the "cans" even have their chancesto pull a huge win. What i'm saying is that...

ALL of Fedor's fight are important. I don't think you realise this though.
OK , maybe not "all" (zulu anyone ? )
But 95% are. Don't just select the ones you've mentioned.

and if you're gonna play this game. Let's just follow this logic for a moment. Then let me prove my point...

Prime examples.
Couture vs "MEANINGLESS" competition.
LOST vs Enson Inoue ( he got subbbed in less than 2 minutes)
LOST vs Mikhail Illoukhine (got subbed in the first )
LOST vs Valentijn Overeem ( got subbed in less than a minute )

Arlovski vs "MEANINGLESS" competition
LOST vs Viacheslav Datsik (KOed in the first )

Hope you don't come up with some bullshit excuses like
"it was arlovski's first fight" or
"Couture wasn't as experienced back then".

Because the very same shit can be used for Fedor too.
Fedor ALSO had his "first" fight.
Fedor wasn't as experienced back then (compared to the guy from the 2003 - 2005 era )
But he still won his fucking fights.

No matter who it was...C , B , A competition. He past the tests.
Not everyone can say the same. And certainly not the guy in your avatar. You see , he had a past before the UFC too.

Now , sure Fedor's competition hasn't been looking too good recently.
I'll give you that. But there's still nobody in the UFC right now.

It's not worth fighting Crocop.
Kongo ? why? because of his victory over Crocop ?
Ok fine.. But we're still talking about the guy who already lost against Yvel here. Even Minowa defeated Yvel. Ok , you're gonna tell me this is just MMATH bullshit and it's true. But frankly , Kongo's win over crocop was as important as Gonzaga's... In other words as important as Danny williams and Kevin McBride's victories over a shot Tyson.

Vera ? who the fuck is he?

The way i see it. Barnett lost to crocop...true.
But he's also used to the octagon. and he already beat Nogueira and Couture. and he'd probably beat crocop today. (that's how bad crocop is now ). or maybe he can't take his steroids anymore or maybe it's the octagon...whatever it is..he looks like shit.

That's why , i'm only interested in seeing Fedor vs Barnett
Before that , i also wanted to see fedor vs Couture.

But that can't happen...

So, if there is no talent in the UFC who is comparable or more talented in his new shitty little organization? What's he going to prove beating a bunch of no-namers?

[achillesthegreat]

Randy is probably the biggest threat Fedor has ever had. EVERYONE wants this bout. PLUS it can now be made. Not only is it great because of the fighters but it unifies THE CHAMP! Fedor can never really call himself the man, especially after Randys comeback.

[EL BULLY]

Is Fedor probably the best MMA HW? Yes
Would I bet against him V any other HW in the world? No
Should Fedor fight in the UFC/ HELL YES.

There's no denying it, the UFC is the big show now, like it or not. He has to get in the octagon, why the fuck wouldn't anyone want to see that? There will always be a massive question mark over his career rightly or wrongly if he doesn't fight in the UFC.

There is no other way to view it.