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Kostya Zoo
06-26-2007, 11:30 PM
It's worth a listen

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He makes it relatively clear that the fight has to be in the US @ 147

Marnoff
06-26-2007, 11:51 PM
Fighting at 147lbs is the only thing that makes sense. Floyd isn't going to cut weight to "get a shot at Hatton". Besides, Hatton won't be outsized like he was with Collazo.

Kostya Zoo
06-27-2007, 12:00 AM
I really don't think weight is an issue one way or the other with these guys in terms of the fight itself (and its eventual outcome). They're both very similarly sized, and PBF wouldn't have any huge advantage @ 140 vs. 147, cosidering he walks around at 147, and fights on fight night at 147 (about the same as Hatton). Neither guy should have an issue fighting the other at any weight.

Where the weight is going to be an issue is in negotiations. And the fact that Ellerbe makes the weight so specific, as well as the fact that it's got to be in the US (where it would be worth LESS $$$) proves they are going to demand the whole thing be done on Mayweather's terms.

I'm Dying for the fight to happen, but I really see this whole thing falling through very quickly.

Alo2006
06-27-2007, 12:06 AM
Come on Hatton, jump out there and sign the contract! :yep

platnumpapi
06-27-2007, 12:23 AM
make that fight at 147 and put for pbf in engalnd.he likes being booed and the hated guy so of course in england he would get the most loudest boos ever, i think it would be a very hostile crowd as well.

then pbf woops hatton and riots and shit break out.pbf hotel room gets death threats and all types of shit.so yeah i think they should get it on in engalnd.

acb
06-27-2007, 12:23 AM
Besides, Hatton won't be outsized like he was with Collazo.

Good point.

Kostya Zoo
06-27-2007, 12:36 AM
make that fight at 147 and put for pbf in engalnd.he likes being booed and the hated guy so of course in england he would get the most loudest boos ever, i think it would be a very hostile crowd as well.

then pbf woops hatton and riots and shit break out.pbf hotel room gets death threats and all types of shit.so yeah i think they should get it on in engalnd.

worth it if they're fighting in front of 30k instead of maybe 10k.

If it makes dollars it makes sense. Right?

David UK
06-27-2007, 12:44 AM
Hatton has proved he's man enough to travel abroad to defend his reputation. Let's see if Mayweather is man enough to do likewise, or is he a 'stay at home' pussy?

Kostya Zoo
06-27-2007, 02:09 AM
Even if Ricky Hatton lost the fight, he'd gain American fans in the process because you know he won't go down without a fight - infact he'd probably go down with a face full of blood. Then he can go on to other fights (Gatti maybe, or just back down to 140) because he'd have American fans

That's why I think he should take it this year

I can't believe you just suggested he should fight Gatti.

codeman99998
06-27-2007, 02:14 AM
Even if Ricky Hatton lost the fight, he'd gain American fans in the process because you know he won't go down without a fight - infact he'd probably go down with a face full of blood. Then he can go on to other fights (Gatti maybe, or just back down to 140) because he'd have American fans

That's why I think he should take it this year

Dude, SO MANY mayweather opponents have "gone down without a fight". It's not like Mayweather is going to start putting a beating on Hatton to find out if Hatton has the heart to bang with the best and fight until the end. Mayweather is going to box Hatton defensively.

Is there any doubt that Baldomir wouldn't have fought with a face full of blood, throwing power punches to the end? I'm not saying Hatton isnt above Baldo's level just that heart and determination are less of a factor than skill against mayweather. LOTS of fighters have the determination to beat Mayweather. None have showed (yet, at least) that they have the SKILL.

Kostya Zoo
06-27-2007, 02:18 AM
It's a dream of Ricky's to fight Gatti, and what a war it would be!

(it's also a dream of his to top the bill at MSG)

Yeah I've heard that one before, but at this point and any point in the future, the fight would worthless. Gatti needs to retire, now.

o_money
06-27-2007, 02:30 AM
He makes it relatively clear that floyd is going to try to strong arm hatton into a deal. All the while doing his best to piss-off everyone in England with his blunt, ignorant, disrespectful manner. The mayweather people will have the British fans screaming for PBF's head by the end of the week, I guarantee it. They'll be some more blunt, provocative, insulting shit out tomorrow, and the next day, and the day after that....until this deal gets done.

Hope, floyds ready for a pissed off ricky. And I hope ricky isn't fightin Mr. Genius too much these days cause he's gonna have to have his wits about him not to lose his cool and get fucked over in the negotiations.

jyuza
06-27-2007, 02:31 AM
Please let Gatti alone he already made his job and needs to retire NOW.

Any further fight would be disastrous for his health.

o_money
06-27-2007, 02:41 AM
Even if Ricky Hatton lost the fight, he'd gain American fans in the process because you know he won't go down without a fight - infact he'd probably go down with a face full of blood. Then he can go on to other fights (Gatti maybe, or just back down to 140) because he'd have American fans

That's why I think he should take it this year

I half disagree. Hatton gets hated on so much in america that if he lost (no matter where) it would only increase the distain for him. They would say "look at what a hype job your man is". He's got the best chance of winning this thing in England so he should make the fight there.

I will conceed that if he beats Floyd in England it will only increase the distain for Hatton in America.....where as if he wins in america he will be loved there.

Personally, I'd love to see the fight made in england first and my second choice would be MSG.

maracho
06-27-2007, 03:39 AM
Floyd should meet Ricky half way and go to England were they may even make more money. If Floyd wont go to England then he should go down to Jr. Welter.

If Floyd wont compromise then it shows that he's still ducking.

There are guys though that will meet Floyd on any terms he wants such as Cotto, Margarito, or any of the top Jr Middleweights.

Whens the Ring gonna boot this phony boy?

skipdog
06-27-2007, 04:04 AM
Just don't have the fight in Vegas. Thats all I can ask for. Madison Square would be tight or even Staples Center. No way Floyd fights in England, that would be fun as all hell though.

smokey
06-27-2007, 04:25 AM
The fight money will definitely be based in the US. British boxing fans don't seem to grasp that the gate of a British boxing event is still a pittance compared to the US dollars a megafight generates. I like how the gate prices are a lot lower at the fights, but filling an arena with $100 tickets is less money than a smaller venue with $400-$800 tickets, huge endorsement dollars, and massive PPV buys.

I guess they could do it in the UK, but it would have to be at time synched for the US to not kill the PPV buys.

As for Gatti... you people are sick. Ricky would kill him, possibly literally. It wouldn't be a war. It would be a massacre.

achillesthegreat
06-27-2007, 08:41 AM
Make it in England at 147 and I'm there. It would be a legendary night, whatever the conclusion. These are two great fighters.

David UK
06-27-2007, 08:55 AM
The fight money will definitely be based in the US. British boxing fans don't seem to grasp that the gate of a British boxing event is still a pittance compared to the US dollars a megafight generates. I like how the gate prices are a lot lower at the fights, but filling an arena with $100 tickets is less money than a smaller venue with $400-$800 tickets, huge endorsement dollars, and massive PPV buys.

I guess they could do it in the UK, but it would have to be at time synched for the US to not kill the PPV buys.



There's no reason why it couldn't take place in Britain to sync with US time and therefore the PPVs. Add in a massive gate and presumably the fight would be worth more to both boxers

teetop
06-27-2007, 09:29 AM
It's a dream of Ricky's to fight Gatti, and what a war it would be!

(it's also a dream of his to top the bill at MSG)

Yeah, a war like the U.S. vs. haiti. WTF?! do you want gatti to die man?

Guru_Too_You
06-27-2007, 09:34 AM
I would love for the massacre to occur in MEN.

Scar
06-27-2007, 10:26 AM
Looks as though this fight will FINALLY happen, really hope Hatton signs and makes it happen this time. :happy

The Kurgan
06-27-2007, 10:30 AM
That's the first time I've heard a Yank use the word "plonker".

Asterion
06-27-2007, 10:31 AM
Typicial Mayweather..:roll:

he claims he is the only fighter that can compete at three different weight classes and says he'll fight anyone from 140 to 154 yet Hatton as to move up to face him..joke.

First of all Floyd needs to fight the top guys at 147 (Cott0 and Margarito) before calling out JUNIOR WELTERS..

Ricky is not a WELTER and he admitted that himself.


Mayweather is a SUPER FEATHERWEIGHT :hey :hey

The Kurgan
06-27-2007, 10:35 AM
so is Dela Hoya then

And an old DLH who was just there for the payday and was shot and had had too many fights nearly beat PBF. I think, on this basis, Hatton's chances are pretty good.

IntentionalButt
06-27-2007, 10:37 AM
oh goody, hearing ellerbe talk?

The Kurgan
06-27-2007, 10:37 AM
Floyd fights who he thinks he can beat . period.

He wont call out Cotto WHO HAPPENS TO BE A WELTER WEIGHT..or Margarito WHO HAPPENS TO BE A WELTER WEIGHT..

Absolutely. In fact, I'm still sceptical as to whether this offer to Hatton is kosher or not.

Asterion
06-27-2007, 10:37 AM
so is Dela Hoya then

De la Hoya fought at 130 TWICE.

Plus, his natural fight weight was 140-150. Mayweather's natural fight weight is 130-140.

pit
06-27-2007, 10:48 AM
Typicial Mayweather..:roll:

he claims he is the only fighter that can compete at three different weight classes and says he'll fight anyone from 140 to 154 yet Hatton as to move up to face him..joke.

First of all Floyd needs to fight the top guys at 147 (Cott0 and Margarito) before calling out JUNIOR WELTERS..

Ricky is not a WELTER and he admitted that himself. The friggin guy is 5'6 with a 65' arm reach...

Floyd needs to man up and stop cherry picking again.....

More excuses from you .. first you claim he's ducked Hatton and now that he may be fighting hatton he's cherry picking..:huh :-(
everyone has agreed that floyd needs to fight someone like Shane , Cotto or Hatton .. and now he fighting one of the Three and your still bitching :lol: not only that but you want him to handicap his skill by going back down in weight to fight Hatton at 140 and in manchester .. :lol:

pit
06-27-2007, 10:50 AM
Floyd fights who he thinks he can beat . period.

He wont call out Cotto WHO HAPPENS TO BE A WELTER WEIGHT..or Margarito WHO HAPPENS TO BE A WELTER WEIGHT..

Floyd have you been on ICE floyd called out cotto a while back and was straight denied by Arum and Cotto's camp so now your trying to pump the lie that Floyd is running from Cotto:patsch

kirk
06-27-2007, 10:52 AM
i swear... if mayweather goes to england to fight hatton... im going.

Marc
06-27-2007, 11:07 AM
Floyd fights who he thinks he can beat . period.

He wont call out Cotto WHO HAPPENS TO BE A WELTER WEIGHT..or Margarito WHO HAPPENS TO BE A WELTER WEIGHT..

the question is, when has cotto called out floyd??!!!:hey

pbf's been callin for cotto's ass after the gatti fight. its just that bob arum wont budge because at that time he knw cotto is top rank's rising star and he wouldnt want to lose all the $ by pitting him in with PBF then.

hell even now that cotto's a certified star he still wont call out pbf.:hey

C Money
06-27-2007, 11:44 AM
Mayweather fans and their "offers":-( Who gives a shit about him calling out Cotto before?? Both Cotto and Hatton are RELEVANT, right fucking NOW!! So, forget the BS(DLH should have called out PBF at 47 in 2000, then refused to fight Floyd in 06:lol: ) make things right in present time.

I'm at least slightly optimistic(and glad to hear) that they are pursuing a fight with HATTON. As long as the money is 60/40 for Floyd, Hatton should be willing to face him at 47 and in the US.

Then?? Floyd can talk about Cotto, SSM, and the Margarito vs Williams winner. Those are all legacy affecting oppponents to be faced, if Floyd wants to be as good as he thinks he is.

Theo
06-27-2007, 11:53 AM
i swear... if mayweather goes to england to fight hatton... im going.

lol if he comes here to my town to fight ricky i will be compleatly amazed ;)

i dont think he will come to england tho, despite the fact that we could generate more ticket sales here by far.

/Theo

Thread Stealer
06-27-2007, 11:58 AM
Just don't have the fight in Vegas. Thats all I can ask for. Madison Square would be tight or even Staples Center. No way Floyd fights in England, that would be fun as all hell though.

It'll probably be in Vegas. The casinos can generally outbid other arenas due to all the money they receive when there's a big fight. The live gate is just a part of the ridiculous amount of money they make.

Scar
06-27-2007, 12:07 PM
Typicial Mayweather..:roll:

he claims he is the only fighter that can compete at three different weight classes and says he'll fight anyone from 140 to 154 yet Hatton as to move up to face him..joke.

First of all Floyd needs to fight the top guys at 147 (Cott0 and Margarito) before calling out JUNIOR WELTERS..

Ricky is not a WELTER and he admitted that himself. The friggin guy is 5'6 with a 65' arm reach...

Floyd needs to man up and stop cherry picking again.....

And who told you that Floyd is a Welter?, hell Floyd isn't even a Junior Welter he started at Lightweight. Look for other stuff to pick on. By the way, Cotto isn't even a Welter, he's a Junior Welter, remember?
Fool.

Thread Stealer
06-27-2007, 12:12 PM
Mayweather-Cotto is extremely unlikely to happen this winter, nobody is ducking each other in this regard. Cotto always just fights whoever Arum and Top Rank tell him to and Arum's been calling for Floyd to fight Margarito for awhile, not Cotto. Probably a smart thing to do since Margarito has a bigger name in boxing now, and Cotto is supposed to fight him in the winter should Tony get past Paul.

Later on, then we'll see what happens. I have my doubts about Floyd and Bob agreeing at the negotiating tables.

griff
06-27-2007, 12:12 PM
But Ricky hasn't fought at the MGM, and I'm pretty sure he'd want to

I remember Hatton fighting at the Garden, think it was the Hamed/Kelley undercard or maybe Lewis/Holyfield card.

Thread Stealer
06-27-2007, 12:16 PM
De la Hoya fought at 130 TWICE.

Plus, his natural fight weight was 140-150. Mayweather's natural fight weight is 130-140.

At this stage in his career, Mayweather seems right to be fighting @ 147. Possible he can fight @ 140. He filled out well at 140 for the Gatti fight. I dunno in the 2 years since if he's properly grown into 147, but it seems like he's in the right class for him at this stage.

I also think Hatton will be better physically @ 147 if they fight as opposed to how he was against Collazo.

That was on short notice, he was supposed to fight @ 140 against Lazcano but HBO turned it down and he had less time.