Who's next for Kessler

[THN]

After he's win over Calzaghe, who's he's next opponent?

[Swing4TheFence]

Next for Kessler is......a long healing process from the schoolling he's about to get. Beleive me, Im no fan of either guy and there is no way he can beat Calzaghe. No Way.

[boxfan99]

I don't know who is next.:p But I hope it will be the winner of Berrio-Bute.

[Rollo]

I support Kessler. But leave that question till after the Calzaghe fight...

[THN]

I support Kessler. But leave that question till after the Calzaghe fight...
Jeg er bare så pissetræt af at høre alle de Calzaghefans tale om hvem han skal møde efter Kessler. Kessler dræber ham!:D

[Rollo]

Jeg er bare så pissetræt af at høre alle de Calzaghefans tale om hvem han skal møde efter Kessler. Kessler dræber ham!:D

Lad dem bare snakke løs, men vi behøver jo ikke at falde til deres niveau - selv om du selvfølgelig er i din gode ret til at skrive hvad du vil.....:good

Jeg kan heller ikke se hvordan Joe kan vinde - men HVIS NU! Det er jo trods alt ikke en eksakt videnskab at forudse et bokseresultat.

[pryorgatti]

I hope it's Wright

[Boro chris]

Pavlik would be fun. And I get the feeling KP likes a challenge.

[youthmann]

After beating JC - he should fight the winner of Bute/Berrio. So he has all the belt - the he should offer JC a rematch and beat him again.

Then he should go for LHW.

[warrior85]

after calzaghe beats him,he'll prob fight a journeyman to get used to winning again

[youthmann]

after calzaghe beats him,he'll prob fight a journeyman to get used to winning again
Sorry mate - I think that Bute or frogh is the real challenge to MK - JC is the journeyman that people won't give MK any credit for beating up. But thats boxing. As long as MK gets all the belt the nobody can discredit him.
But MK against dawson in LHW would be an acceptable win that also the americans would accept 100%.

[Zakman]

Next for Kessler is......a long healing process from the schoolling he's about to get. Beleive me, Im no fan of either guy and there is no way he can beat Calzaghe. No Way.

I agree, although perhaps not with such vehemence. I think Calzaghe is gonna outclass Kessler, very similar to the manner in which he did Lacy, although perhaps not quite as one-sided.

Next for Kessler - some confidence-building fights against European journeyman!:yep

[Max Molyneux]

He'll probably fight Froch for the vacant WBC title.:yep

[digiram]

Hopefully he gets some US recognition, and doesn't end up like Calzahge for the next 10 years. The boy's got talent, and I think he can be a big star. He has an entertaining style as well. If he get's by Cal, I'd like ot see him in a match with Dawson or Pavlik at some point.

[boxfan99]

I honestly believe Calzaghe will be kind enough to keep him on as his bitch, theres no need for him to go elsewhere. Joe might let him sweep his fatha's gym floor or suchlike.

Just like he lets you suck his balls?

[boxfan99]

Don't be such a humourless twunt. Calzaghe is gonna school your boy, plain and simple.

Of course he will, he is British.

[sean]

i think he will have a routine defense , but it will be a big homecomming fight in denmark.

[boxfan99]

Yeah, cos picking Calzaghe to beat anyone @ 168 is *such* a stretch for anyone who isn't British right?

Not at all, but people who are not British tend to look just a bit more realistically on his chances, instead of talking about him like he was some kind of unbeatable deity.

[boxfan99]

I can't help being British! I'm not gonna pick Joe to win cos he's fuckin British but because he's the best 168 pounder out there! Because of the style clash, I think whoever wins will win big imposing their style on the whole fight. I just don't see that being Kessler. His 1-2 robotic style is simply not enough against a fast deceptively hard hitting fighter than Calzaghe. Mark my words - whoever wins, wins big (ie. Joe wiiiiiiiiiide!).
Hatton will get embarassed by Floyd, I have no doubt about this. Does this make me a rabid Brit fan also?

Respect.:good

You are entitled to your opinion, but your first post just reminded me of the type of British boxing fan that thinks Calzaghe will beat Kessler, Hatton will beat PBF and that Smith was the best guy on this seasons Contender.:roll: Obviously I was wrong about you and I admit it.

[mattress]

I support Kessler. But leave that question till after the Calzaghe fight...

A sensible quote from a MK fan. That's a first! ;)

[boxfan99]

A sensible quote from a MK fan. That's a first! ;)

Yes, and when was the last time we heard something sensible from the Calzaghe camp?:lol:

[mattress]

Yes, and when was the last time we heard something sensible from the Calzaghe camp?:lol:

Most Calzaghe fans will admit that it is a tough fight that really could go either way. The majority of Kessler fans (who are obviously new to the sport) claim that Calzaghe has no chance. They are going to look silly if Kessler does lose.

[boxfan99]

Most Calzaghe fans will admit that it is a tough fight that really could go either way. The majority of Kessler fans (who are obviously new to the sport) claim that Calzaghe has no chance. They are going to look silly if Kessler does lose.

Which Kessler fans are you talking about?

[tit]

fuldstændig enig. Det er til at brække sig over. De taler om ham som om han er gud.

Jeg håber godt nok, at han får en ordentlig røvfuld!!!

[Peter S. A.]

Go Kessler.

I am getting more and more convinced that Kessler will win.

[Amsterdam]

Not at all, but people who are not British tend to look just a bit more realistically on his chances, instead of talking about him like he was some kind of unbeatable deity.

Since when is Calzaghe *not* an unbeatable deity, the original supernatural?:yep

[THN]

Lad dem bare snakke løs, men vi behøver jo ikke at falde til deres niveau - selv om du selvfølgelig er i din gode ret til at skrive hvad du vil.....:good

Jeg kan heller ikke se hvordan Joe kan vinde - men HVIS NU! Det er jo trods alt ikke en eksakt videnskab at forudse et bokseresultat.


Du har ret, men nogle gange er deres arrogance for meget, mht. falde ned på deres niveau, derfor på dansk!:D

[THN]

Since when is Calzaghe *not* an unbeatable deity, the original supernatural?:yep
Since when has he become supernatural, after beating Manfredo, or Bika???

[Fedor Em]

Since when has he become supernatural, after beating Manfredo, or Bika???

Amsterdam saw he was divine after Joe's tremendous defense against Richie Woodhall. :good

[pecks]

Kessler seems to want the big fights available. I think he'll try and get a fight with Bute assuming Bute beats Berrio. Whether Bute is willing to risk his belt in his first defence is another matter.

[PeterNielsen70]

Either Bute for a new WBA, WBC, WBO, IBF unification bout during springtime 2008 or Kessler might take on another mandatory first, and then during the end of 2008 he could take on Bute or perhaps Kelly Pavlik, provided that Pavlik beat Abraham in the MW unification bout, which Pavlik will. Just my guess? :bbb

[Smazz20]

Depends on how he wins. Could be a rematch in Denmark, if it's a close fight. Assuming he beats Calzaghe quite comfortably, then he chases after Bute/Berrio.

[Fat Tony]

IF Kessler wins ... and wins ... and wins ... :


first fight: BHop at 170 (171,5) ---> Ring champion at 168 and 175.
BHop isn't getting any younger, so this has to be the next fight

second fight: Taylor/Pavlik

third fight: last fight at 168 against the #1 contender, I hope it will be Bute


:bbb

[Laydown]

IF Kessler wins ... and wins ... and wins ... :


first fight: BHop at 170 (171,5) ---> Ring champion at 168 and 175.
BHop isn't getting any younger, so this has to be the next fight

second fight: Taylor/Pavlik

third fight: last fight at 168 against the #1 contender, I hope it will be Bute


:bbb

:good :good

[rushman]

Tune up, then unification.

Kessler is not the type to avoid the big fights.

First thing first though, he has to get past Joe.

[PeterNielsen70]

IF Kessler wins ... and wins ... and wins ... :


first fight: BHop at 170 (171,5) ---> Ring champion at 168 and 175.
BHop isn't getting any younger, so this has to be the next fight

second fight: Taylor/Pavlik

third fight: last fight at 168 against the #1 contender, I hope it will be Bute


:bbb

I don't think that BHop dare stepping in the ring against Kessler, and I think that Taylor is to small physically to match Kessler. Pavlik has the size, and he is in fact a natural SMW. But we'll have to wait and see. I'm looking very much forward to Nov. 3rd. There will be some fireworks in the air that night. :bbb

[Smazz20]

I don't think that BHop dare stepping in the ring against Kessler, and I think that Taylor is to small physically to match Kessler. Pavlik has the size, and he is in fact a natural SMW. But we'll have to wait and see. I'm looking very much forward to Nov. 3rd. There will be some fireworks in the air that night. :bbb


Fucking sure. If this lives up to my expectations, it''l be one of the atg fights..........instant classic.......can't wait for it:yep

[HolgerD]

If MK wins and he'd better, anything else would be embarrasing, he should take on the German Jurgen Brehmer because of style issues. Then on to the US and the real hard hitters just to see how far his talents can go.

[Super_Fly_Sam]

After Calzaghe.... if he wins...

he has a mandatory in the shape of Anthony Mundine.....

if Mundine can recover fully from his eye injury i wanna see this fight.... Kessler would no doubt be the huge favourtie but my feelings are that if Choc can find and answer to Kesslers jab and stay active i reckon he might be able to pull off an upset

[Odo]

After he's win over Calzaghe, who's he's next opponent?

He could make some big bucks facing Beyer in a rematch.Beyer=low risk,high financial reward for Kessler.
Braehmer seems to be highly popular in his native Germany-he could be a financially attractive opponent for Kessler.
Inkin is probably the present undisputed nr.3 at supermiddle.However,he stands for high risk,little reward.Not a very desirable foe for Kessler.
What about an encounter with his German based compatriot Mads Larsen? Guess that this fight could be truly big in Kessler's backyard Denmark!

[HolgerD]

After Calzaghe.... if he wins...

he has a mandatory in the shape of Anthony Mundine.....

if Mundine can recover fully from his eye injury i wanna see this fight.... Kessler would no doubt be the huge favourtie but my feelings are that if Choc can find and answer to Kesslers jab and stay active i reckon he might be able to pull off an upset


How is the situation with Mundines eye? I read that his capacity on one eye was permanently reduced with 30 percent. I also read somewhere that he thinks he can continue his career? Personally I think he should not take any risk loosing his sight on one eye for a boxing career.

[Decebal]

IF Kessler wins ... and wins ... and wins ... :


first fight: BHop at 170 (171,5) ---> Ring champion at 168 and 175.
BHop isn't getting any younger, so this has to be the next fight

second fight: Taylor/Pavlik

third fight: last fight at 168 against the #1 contender, I hope it will be Bute


:bbb

If Kessler beats Calzaghe, there is no way Bhop will step into the ring with him. Bhop will not fight the winner of JC-MK, whoever it will be...:-( But sure, If Bhop wants it...why not...fight Bhop first.

If he cannot fight Bhop, he should fight the Bute v. Berrio winner. Then he should fight Dawson. There is no point in fighting Pavlik or Taylor...none at all.

[THN]

I think he will go after the IBF belt, thats he's style!

[THN]

Who's next for Kessler?:

I can recommend some good plastic surgeons to repair his pretty face.
Nobody will remember Calzaghe after nov. 3/4

[Azriel]

Sorry mate - I think that Bute or frogh is the real challenge to MK - JC is the journeyman that people won't give MK any credit for beating up. But thats boxing. As long as MK gets all the belt the nobody can discredit him.
But MK against dawson in LHW would be an acceptable win that also the americans would accept 100%.

Maybe i'm being over protective but I don't think Bute will fight Kessler just yet. Kessler is too accomplished and Bute is just starting with world class fighters. Give him two or three tittle defenses and he'll be ready.:rasta

[Decebal]

Maybe i'm being over protective but I don't think Bute will fight Kessler just yet. Kessler is too accomplished and Bute is just starting with world class fighters. Give him two or three tittle defenses and he'll be ready.:rasta

I agree. If Bute beats Berrio, he should learn his trade some more against Braehmer/Inkin or/and against Lacy/Andrade, before he steps in against Kessler. Beyer I think would be too old, even for a fight early in 2008. This doesn't mean that KESSLER shouldn't go for Bute next, though! From Kessler's point of view, Bute should be next on his list (if he cannot beat Bhop next).

[Decebal]

If Kessler beats Calzaghe, no one at SWM or under would beat him. And he would become favourite against Dawson too! But that doesn't mean that they shouldn't want to get into the ring with him. Of course they should!

[Fat Tony]

1) If Kessler beats Calzaghe, there is no way Bhop will step into the ring with him. Bhop will not fight the winner of JC-MK, whoever it will be...:-(

2) If he cannot fight Bhop, he should fight the Bute v. Berrio winner.

3) Then he should fight Dawson.

4) There is no point in fighting Pavlik or Taylor...none at all.


1) I agree.

2) Bute needs a BIG win before facing Kessler: Mundine, Froch or Lacy.

3) As a Kessler fan I don't want him to face Dawson (high risk, little reward). If Dawson destroys Tarver (I think Green gets the job done) it could be high risk, high reward and thus make sense.

4) MONEY and recognition.

[THN]

No, you're right, you don't need to remember the undisputed champion and one of the finest fighters ever born - he'll still be there.

I'm sure the hospital staff will remember Kessler long after he's gone.
Do you think he will be arrested for violence against that old Welshman,
even if it was boxing??:D

[Max Molyneux]

Only PBF Is close to being good as Calzaghe but even he Isn't as good.

[dumdane]

Most Calzaghe fans will admit that it is a tough fight that really could go either way. The majority of Kessler fans (who are obviously new to the sport) claim that Calzaghe has no chance. They are going to look silly if Kessler does lose.

Looks to me like your perception of who'se fans are actually saying what is SEVERELY distorted.

[THN]

No offence I'm just supporting my man, tired of beeing objektive!
Can't wait thou!

[THN]

I take no offence, I'm just amusing myself. If people want Kessler to win, that's ok.

It might be a bit stupid, but it's ok.

We are stupid!:D :D :D

[Decebal]

1) I agree.

2) Bute needs a BIG win before facing Kessler: Mundine, Froch or Lacy.

3) As a Kessler fan I don't want him to face Dawson (high risk, little reward). If Dawson destroys Tarver (I think Green gets the job done) it could be high risk, high reward and thus make sense.

4) MONEY and recognition.

:D

1):good

2) Yes...but we are not talking about what Bute needs or what would suit Bute best, but about what Kessler should do...and if Kessler calls out Bute and Bute ducks him, screw Bute! Kessler will have done the right thing.

3) As a Kessler fan, I think he should fight the best, win or lose...that includes Bute and Dawson.

4) Fighting Pavlik or Taylor would only gain him more recognition than fighting Bute or Dawson with people who are biased/who don't know much about boxing...so...why should he care about that kind of recognition. He should care about what the real fans care about. There is no way either Pavlik or Taylor could beat Kessler. Not even the Kessler that is beaten by Calzaghe.

Yes, he would make more money fighting these two than Bute, say...much more money, but Kessler makes enough money as it is, and will continue to make a lot of money from now on anyway. He should worry about his legacy first and foremost, like he has so bravely done so far...and the money part will look after itself!

:good

[HolgerD]

Both sides are saying stupid things, but there's more to suggest Joe will win than the other way round.........


In your dreams!!!!

[Super_Fly_Sam]

How is the situation with Mundines eye? I read that his capacity on one eye was permanently reduced with 30 percent. I also read somewhere that he thinks he can continue his career? Personally I think he should not take any risk loosing his sight on one eye for a boxing career.

Man from what i hear he's sayin his eye is probly around 60% and that he will still continue fighting anyway.... the doctors are apparently sayin there not much chance his eye will return to full vision..

he seems pretty determind to return to the ring.... i think his eye is healin up enough for him to fight and he is just using " i'll continue to fight 1 eye'd" stuff to hype himself up and make some more $$$ on his next fight..... but i could be wrong

[HolgerD]

Man from what i hear he's sayin his eye is probly around 60% and that he will still continue fighting anyway.... the doctors are apparently sayin there not much chance his eye will return to full vision..

he seems pretty determind to return to the ring.... i think his eye is healin up enough for him to fight and he is just using " i'll continue to fight 1 eye'd" stuff to hype himself up and make some more $$$ on his next fight..... but i could be wrong


Thanks mate! All the best to Mundine. Hope he is back stronger than ever. He definitely has the tools to be a thread to anyone out there with the proper training and coach. Now with this eye-thing I just don't know if he's a serious thread to MK if MK wins on Nov. 3rd. I'm sure opponents would automatically go for the bad eye.

[THN]

Who cares about Mundine! with 1, 2 or 3 eyes he woud'nt stand a chance against Kessler!!!!!

[HolgerD]

Well, I happen to think the guy has potential. The loss against Swine Ottke was first and foremost lame training+coaching. Against Kessler he did a decent job. With proper coaching and in better physical shape I'd like to see more of him.

[mattress]

Looks to me like your perception of who'se fans are actually saying what is SEVERELY distorted.

Yes, I was thinking the same :D

[EspadaYdaga]

Very disrespectful thread.

[Axe]

I agree. If Bute beats Berrio, he should learn his trade some more against Braehmer/Inkin or/and against Lacy/Andrade, before he steps in against Kessler. Beyer I think would be too old, even for a fight early in 2008. This doesn't mean that KESSLER shouldn't go for Bute next, though! From Kessler's point of view, Bute should be next on his list (if he cannot beat Bhop next).

True, Kessler should target Bute while he is still green, preferably right after he picks up the IBF trinket. :good

Bute meanwhile should stay away for another year or so. After watching the Bika fight, it's obvious he still has his limitations (some of which he can improve upon). Whether he will ever be able to beat Kessler is anyone's guess.

I think Chad Dawson 7 lbs north of Kessler would be a good matchup if MK would beat Calzaghe. there would be nothing left at 168. Let's not forget Dawson was at 160 lbs just 3 years ago. They would be similar in size, and imo Kessler would be up against a tall guy who is more skilled than him for the first time in his life; I would pick Chad Dawson to win a wide decision.

[Decebal]

True, Kessler should target Bute while he is still green, preferably right after he picks up the IBF trinket. :good



:thumbsup

Bute meanwhile should stay away for another year or so. After watching the Bika fight, it's obvious he still has his limitations (some of which he can improve upon). Whether he will ever be able to beat Kessler is anyone's guess.

If Bute gets called out and he ducks Kessler...he will lose fans. I agree with you that Bute could do better against Kessler further down the line. Still, if Kessler looks like never coming down to 168 again after Joe, Bute should take it and not miss out on this opportunity, even if it means that his chances of a win are quite low. Better to lose fighting well against the best than to duck a great Champ (undiputed) who is calling you out and have that haunting your career for the rest of your life!:good

[Cruiser1]

For people to even suggest that Calzaghe is gonna beat Kessler in the same manner that he did Lacy is utterly ridiculous.

[Decebal]

For people to even suggest that Calzaghe is gonna beat Kessler in the same manner that he did Lacy is utterly ridiculous.

:yep

[rooq]

he could try winning the regular smw championship from mundine?

[scorpy]

he could try winning the regular smw championship from mundine?

The WBA "regular champ" is not allowed to unify.

[boxfan99]

he could try winning the regular smw championship from mundine?

He can't win that unless he wants to give all his titles away and take a step back. The regular WBA belt can't be unified and is lower ranked than the WBA Super champ belt which Kessler already has.

[Decebal]

This is a pointless discussion. Why would Calzaghe fight Mundine even if he lost to Kessler?:? As to Kessler...if he lost to Calzaghe and wanted another go at SMW, he would go for Bute. He has already beaten Mundine. He would only take on Mundine again AFTER taking on Bute.