East Side Boxing Divisional World Rankings - OCTOBER 19th UPDATE

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Fighter of the Month for September 2010
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1. Ricky Burns
2. Wladamir Klitscko
3. Nathan Cleverly

2010 Previous Winners
January - Carlos Tamara
February - Kaizer Mabuza
March - Devon Alexander
April - Sergio Martinez
May - Floyd Mayweather Jnr
June - Miguel Cotto
July - Dmitry Pirog
August - Jean Pascal
September - Ricky Burns


P4P (voted for by ESB members)
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1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Sergio Martinez
5. Wladamir Klitscko
6. Paul Williams
7. Andre Ward
8. Miguel Cotto
9. Nonito Donaire
10. Tim Bradley
11. Fernando Montiel
12. Vitali Klitscko
13. Juan Manuel Lopez
14. Jean Pascal
15. Lucian Bute


DIVISIONAL RANKINGS (October 20th 2010)


Heavyweight (201lbs+)
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ESB World Champion: Wladimir Klitschko (IBF & WBO) -Beat Ruslan Chagaev June 2009
1. Vitali Klitschko (WBC)
2. David Haye (WBA)
3. Ruslan Chagaev
4. Tomasz Adamek
5. Alexander Povetkin
6. Nikolay Valuev
7. Eddie Chambers
8. Tony Thompson
9. Olandier Solis
10. Juan Carlos Gomez
11. Chris Arreola
12. Sam Peter
13. Alexander Dimitrenko
14. Dennis Boystov
15. Robert Herenius

Cruiserweight (200lbs)
ESB World Champion: (Vacant)
1. Steve Cunningham (IBF)
2. Krzysztof Wlodarczyk (WBC)
3. Marco Huck (WBO)
4. Dennis Lebedev
5. Troy Ross
6. Steve Herelius
7. Guilermo Jones (WBA)
8. Alexander Frenkel
9. Ola Alafoabi
10. Giacobbe Fragomeni
11. Yoan Pablo Hernandez
12. Enad Licina
13. Herbie Hide
14. Francisco Palacios
15. Pawel Kolodziej

Light-Heavyweight (175lbs)
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ESB World Champion: Jean Pascal (WBC)- Beat Chad Dawson August 2010
1. Chad Dawson
2. Zsolt Eredi
3. Tavoris Cloud (IBF)
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Glen Johnson
6. Behbut Shumenov (WBA)
7. Gabriel Campillo
8. Jurgen Braehmer (WBO)
9. Nathan Cleverly
10. Adrian Diaconu
11. Chris Henrey
12. Tiherry Carl
13. Aleksy Kuziemski
14. Vyacheslav Uzelkov
15. Karo Murat

Super-Middleweight (168lbs)
ESB World Champion: (Vacant)
1. Andre Ward (WBA)
2. Lucian Bute (IBF)
3. Carl Froch
4. Arthur Abraham
5. Librado Andrade
6. Dimitri Sartison
7. Robert Stieglitz (WBO)
8. Brian Magee
9. Jean Paul Mendy
10. Sakio Bika
11. Edison Miranda
12. Allan Green
13. Eduard Gutknecht
14. Karoly Balzsay
15. Khoren Gevor

WBC title vacant

Middleweight (160lbs)
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ESB World Champion: Sergio Martinez (WBC) - Beat Kelly Pavlik April 2010
1. Felix Sturm (WBA)
2. Kelly Pavlik
3. Dimitry Pirog (WBO)
4. Sebastian Sylvester (IBF)
5. Roman Karmazin
6. Gennady Golovkin
7. Matthew Macklin
8. Sebastian Zbik
9. Daniel Geale
10. Hassan N'Jikam
11. Mahir Oral
12. Marco Antonio Rubio
13. Lajuan Simon
14. Giovanni Lorenzo
15. Fernando Guerrero

Light-Middleweight (154lbs)
ESB World Champion: (Vacant)
1. Paul Williams
2. Miguel Cotto (WBA)
3. Sergey Dzinziruk (WBO)
4. Kermit Cintron
5. Alfredo Angulo
6. Cornelius Bundrage (IBF)
7. Vanes Martirsoyon
8. Sechew Powell
9. Ryan Rhodes
10. Lucas Konecny
11. Shane Mosley
12. Sergio Mora
13. Yuri Foreman
14. Rogoberto Alvarez
15. Nobuhiro Ishida

WBC - title vacant

Welterweight (147lbs)
ESB World Champion: (Vacant)
1. Floyd Mayweather Jnr
2. Manny Pacquiao (WBO)
3. Andre Berto (WBC)
4. Joshua Clottey
5. Jan Zaveck (IBF)
6. Vyacheslav Senchenko (WBA)
7. Randall Bailey
8. Seluck Aydin
9. Ionut Dan Ion
10. Mike Alvorado
11. Rafal Jackiewicz
12. Demetrius Hopkins
13. Mikes Jones
14. Kell Brook
15. Luis Carlos Abregu

Light-Welterweight (140lbs)
ESB World Champion: (Timothy Bradley vs Devon Alexander for the vacant title January 29th)
1. Timothy Bradley (WBO)
2. Amir Khan (WBA)
3. Devon Alexnader (WBC & IBF)
4. Andreas Kotelnik
5. Marcos Maidana
6. Victor Ortiz
7. Juan Urango
8. Paulie Malagnaggi
9. Zab Judah
10. Kaizer Mabuza
11. Lamont Peterson
12. Paul McCloskey
13. Julio Diaz
14. Lucas Martin Matthysse
15. Ajose Oleguseun

Lightweight (135lbs)
ESB World Champion: (Juan Manuel Marquez vs Michael Katsidis for the vacant title November 27th)
1. Juan Manuel Marquez (WBA & WBO)
2. Michael Katsidis
3. Humberto Soto (WBC)
4. Miguel Acosta
5. Juan Diaz
6. Miguel Vasquez (IBF)
7. Roberto Gurerreo
8. Brandon Rios
9. Vincente Escobedo
10. John Murray
11. Paulus Moses
12. Jorge Linares
13. Marco Antonio Barerra
14. Ji Hoon Kim
15. John Molina

Super-Featherweight (130lbs)
ESB World Champion: (Vacant)
1. Takashi Uchyama (WBA)
2. Mzonke Fana (IBF)
3. Ricky Burns (WBO)
4. Juan Carlos Salgado
5. Vitali Tajbert (WBC)
6. Roman Martinez
7. Sergey Gulyakevich
8. Jorge Solis
9. Jason Liatzu
10. Stephen Foster Jnr
11. Rene Gonzalez
12. Elroy Perez
13. Takahiro Ao
14. Mario Santiago
15. Cassius Baloyi

Featherweight (125lbs)
ESB World Champion: (Vacant)
1. Chris John (WBA)
2. Juan Manuel Lopez (WBO)
3. Yurorkis Gamboa (IBF)
4. Ello Rojas (WBC)
5. Rafael Marquez
6. Celestina Caballero
7. Daniel Ponce De Leon
8. Orlando Salido
9. Cristobal Cruz
10. Jhonny Gonzalez
11. Daud Yordan
12. Miguel Angel Garcia
13. Sofiane Takoucht
14. Bernabe Conception
15. Antonio Escalente

Super-Bantamweight (122lbs)
ESB World Champion: (Vacant)
1. Toshiaki Nishioka (WBC)
2. Ryol Li Lee (WBA)
3. Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym
4. Wilfredo Vasquez Jnr (WBO)
5. Steve Molitor (IBF)
6. Jeffrey Mathebula
7. Rendall Munroe
8. Ricardo Cordoba
9. Antonio Escalente
10. Akifumi Shimonda
11. Satoshi Hosana
12. Masaaki Serie
13. Olivier Lontchi
14. Shoji Kamura
15. Kiko Martinez

Bantamweight (118lbs)
ESB World Champion: (Vacant)
1. Fernando Montiel (WBC & WBO)
2. Anselmo Moreno (WBA)
3. Hozumi Hasegawa
4. Nehmor Cermano
5. Yhonny Perez (IBF)
6. Abner Mares
7. Joseph Agbeko
8. Vic Darchinyan
9. Eric Morel
10. Gerry Penalosa
11. Alexander Munoz
12. Malik Bouziane
13. Miguel Domingo
14. Christian Mijares
15. Christian Esquivel

Super-Flyweight (115lbs)
ESB World Champion: (Vacant)
1. Nonito Donaire
2. Hugo Cazares (WBA)
3. Omar Navarez (WBO)
4. Juan Alberto Rosas (IBF)
5. Jose Lopez
6. Nobou Nashiro
7. Duangpetch Saengmorakot
8. Rogrigo Guerrero
9. Raul Martinez
10. Tomas Rojas (WBC)
11. Volodymer Sydorenko
12. Simphiwe Nongqayi
13. Kohei Kono
14. Daisuke Naito
15. Yota Sato

Flyweight (112lbs)
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ESB World Champion: Pongsanklek Wonjongham (WBC) - Beat Koki Kameda March 2010
1. Luis Conception
2. Daiki Kameda (WBA)
3. Koki Kameda
4. Julio Cesar Miranda (WBO)
5. Moruti Mthalane (IBF)
6. Takefumi Sakata
7. Cesar Seda
8. Wilbert Ulcab
9. Suriyan Por Chokchai
10. Zoliani Tete
11. Andrea Sarritzu
12. Denkaosan Kaovichit
13. Rocky Fluentes
14. Milan Melindo
15. Hiroyuki Hisataka

Light-Flyweight (108lbs)
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ESB World Champion: Giovanni Segura (WBA) - Beat Ivan Calderon August 2010
1. Ivan Calderon
2. Omar Nino Ramero (WBC)
3. Luis Alberto Lazarate (IBF)
4. Edgar Sosa
5. Carlos Tamara
6. Brian Viloria
7. Ulises Solis
8. Rodel Mayol
9. Roman Gonzalez
10. Ryo Miyazaki
11. Sonny Boy Jaro
12. Juan Carlos Reveco
13. Ramon Garcia HIreles (WBO)
14. Kazuto Ioka
15. Marlon Tapales

Strawweight (105lbs)
ESB World Champion: (Vacant)
1. Nkosinathi Joyi (IBF)
2. Oleydong Sithsamerchai (WBC)
3. Donnie Nietes (WBO)
4. Pornsawan Pompamook
5. Juan Palacios
5. Raul Garcia
7. Michael Landero
8. Florante Condes
9. Ronald Barrera
10. Yasutaka Kuroki
11. Tsheo Lefele
12. Denver Cuello
13. Juan Hernandez
14. Akira Yaegashi
15. Sammy Guierrez

WBA title vacant

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Rules

1) These rankings our for the fans, by the fans. They are formulated using polls, discussion and debate. The rankings must be based fon results, performance and level of opposition faced. Titles (Alphabet, Continental and domestic) will be used only to gague fighters potential. All opinions will be considered.

2) To be ranked fighters must have had a bout within 365 days. Fighters removed from the rankings will be re-ranked once they have boxed again depending on performance.

3) Fighters can only be ranked at one weight and will always be ranked in the last division the boxed in unless they state it's one off.

4) A fighter can become World Champion by beating the existing World Champion.

5) If a Championship is vacant in a division it can be won in a fight between the number 1 ranked fighter and another eligible fighter who will be marked in red.

6)You can become an eligible fighter by;
a) Being ranked in the top 3 of your division.
b) Winning 3 fights in a row against ranked fighters
c) Winning or Drawing with another eligible fighter
d) Being the champion in a neighbouring divison

7) A World Champion can lose their title by;
a) Losing a title fight
b) If a Champion consecutively fights 3 non ranked opponents.
c) If a champion doesn't fight within 365 days of there fight they will be stripped of there title and re-ranked for a further 200 days. If they fail to to fight within that period they will be dropped from the rankings all together.
c) Fails to defend there title agaisnt a ranked opponent within a period of 365 days.
c) Fails to defend the title within 365 days. If stripped for this reason they can regain the title by beating a top 10 fighter within a year of being stripped.

8.) ESB World Championships cannot be on the line in catch weight or non 12 round fights.

9.) If a fighter is found to be cheating and suspended by a governing body they will be removed from the rankings. There record prior to the suspension will not be considered when they fight again and they must complete 3 fights before they are ranked again.

10) The P4P rankings our done using a vote system. Last vote took place August 2010


Results October 2010

Heavyweight

Vitali Klitscko (1) beat Shannon Briggs (U) via 12 Round UD for V.Klitscko's WBC title - No Movement

Alexander Povetkin (3) beat Toke Oruh (U) via Round 4 TKO - Povetkin drops to 5

Cruiserweight

Guilermo Jones (U) beat Valery Byrdov (U) via Round 11 TKO for Jones WBA title - Jones to 7

Ola Alafoabi (9) beat Sandso Sidhosvilli (U) via 10 Round UD - No Movement

Light Heavyweight

Adrian Diaconou (10) beat Omar Sheika (U) via 12 Round UD - No Movement

Super Middleweight

Lucian Bute (2) beat Jesse Brinkley (11) via Round 9 TKO for Bute's IBF title - Jesse Brinkley now unranked, Koren Gevor to 15

Middleweight

Light Middleweight

Rigoberto Alvarez (U) beat Nobuhiro Ishida (U) via 12 Round SD - Alvarez to 14, Ishida to 15

Welterweight

Ionut Dan Ion (9) beat Andres Villafamme (U) via Round 4 TKO - No Movement

Light Welterweight

Paul McCloskey (12) beat Barry Morrison (U) via Round 7 TKO - No Movement

Lightweight

Super Featherweight

Stephen Foster Jnr (U) beat Leva Kyrakosion (9) via Round 3 TKO - Foster Jnr to 10

Elroy Perez (12) beat Dominico Salcido (U) via 10 Round MD - No Movement

Featherweight

Super Bantamweight

Ryol Li Leo (U) beat Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym (1) via 12 Round UD - Leo to 2, Kratingdaenggym to 3

Wilfredo Wasquez Jnr (5) beat Ivan Hernandez (U) via Round 11 TKO for Vasquez Jnr's WBO title - Vasquez Jnr to 4

Super Flyweight

Hugo Fidel Cazarez (2) beat Alberto Rossell (U) via Round 9 TKO for Cazarez WBA title - No Movement

Flyweight

Luis Concepcion (12) beat Denkasoan Krovechat (2) via Round 1 TKO - Concepcion to 1, Krovechat to 12

Pongsaklek Wonjongkam (ESB Champ) defended his World Flyweight Championship agaisnt Suriyan Por Chokchai (U) via 12 Round UD - Chokchai to 10

Light Flyweight

Julio Cesar Miranda (5) beat Michael Araneo (U) via Round 2 TKO for Miranda's WBO title - Mirando to 4

Minnimumweight

[robpalmer135]

Latest update done.

Let me know what you think about Williams being ranked number 1 at Light Middle? Does a win over Phillips and pretty much a no contest mean he should be ranked ahead of Foreman?

At least the division is hotting up with Dzinzurik returning next week. Where should he go when he returns?

anything thats wrong let me know. anything you agree or disagree with post your comments.

also keep voting in the P4P

[kosaros]

Lightweight
Champion: (Vacant)
1. Juan Manuel Marquez
2. Michael Katsidis
3. Humberto Soto
4. Rolando Reyes
5. Paulus Moses
6. Miguel Acosta
7. Anthony Peterson
8. Robert Gurerreo
9. Kevin Mitchell
10. Antonio DeMarco
11. Vincente Escobedo
12. Anthony Mezzache
13. John Murray
14. Miguel Acosta
15. Brandon Rios

Mitchell 9th? :think

[Stinky gloves]

P4P Top 10

Vote on the P4P Rankings here

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Paul Williams
6. Chad Dawson
7. Wladimir Klitschko
8. Miguel Cotto
9. Hozumi Hasagewa
10. Chris John

Is that a new ranking?

Why people have still Cotto in top 10, he should be
at the same stage as Hatton until proved otherwise.
And why is Hopkins #3, does the win over Jones still
counts as a huge achievement in p4p rankings?
If yes then where is Danny Green on the list?

[robpalmer135]

P4P Top 10

Vote on the P4P Rankings here

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Bernard Hopkins
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Paul Williams
6. Chad Dawson
7. Wladimir Klitschko
8. Miguel Cotto
9. Hozumi Hasagewa
10. Chris John

Is that a new ranking?

Why people have still Cotto in top 10, he should be
at the same stage as Hatton until proved otherwise.
And why is Hopkins #3, does the win over Jones still
counts as a huge achievement in p4p rankings?
If yes then where is Danny Green on the list?

these are the old rankings from January. the other link is for the new list you can vote there. Hopkins, Hasegawa, Cotto and John are nowhere near the top 10 now.

[robpalmer135]

Mitchell 9th? :think

can you really say the guys below are much better? we shall see this weekend. remember Funeka and Valero are not ranked anymore.

you still keeping up with the British rankings??

[kosaros]

can you really say the guys below are much better? we shall see this weekend. remember Funeka and Valero are not ranked anymore.

you still keeping up with the British rankings??

Acosta, Guzman, Kim, DeMarco, should all be ahead of him IMO and Vazquez, Antillon, Diaz and Murray all have a case as well. Obviously it won't matter if he beats Katsidis :good

Yeah I will update the Brit rankings in a couple of days (I know I said that before, but I have been busy...for once!) :good

[robpalmer135]

Acosta, Guzman, Kim, DeMarco, should all be ahead of him IMO and Vazquez, Antillon, Diaz and Murray all have a case as well. Obviously it won't matter if he beats Katsidis :good

Yeah I will update the Brit rankings in a couple of days (I know I said that before, but I have been busy...for once!) :good

fair point. will look into it tomorow.

Guzman was 144 for his last fight and next is at Light Welterweight so will keep him there.

[robpalmer135]

revised lightweight rankings. let me know Kos??

Lightweight
Champion: (Vacant)
1. Juan Manuel Marquez
2. Michael Katsidis
3. Humberto Soto
4. Rolando Reyes
5. Paulus Moses
6. Miguel Acosta
7. Anthony Peterson
8. Robert Gurerreo
9. Vincente Escobedo
10. Antonio DeMarco
11. Kevin Mitchell
12. Ji Hoon Kim
13. Anthony Mezzache
14. John Murray
15. Brandon Rios

[robpalmer135]

will add the P4P rankings today

[Brickhaus]

revised lightweight rankings. let me know Kos??

Lightweight
Champion: (Vacant)
1. Juan Manuel Marquez
2. Michael Katsidis
3. Humberto Soto
4. Rolando Reyes
5. Paulus Moses
6. Miguel Acosta
7. Anthony Peterson
8. Robert Gurerreo
9. Vincente Escobedo
10. Antonio DeMarco
11. Kevin Mitchell
12. Ji Hoon Kim
13. Anthony Mezzache
14. John Murray
15. Brandon Rios

No Ali Funeka?

[robpalmer135]

No Ali Funeka?

Funeka has tested posative for performance enhancing drugs. Currently suspended.

If he returns after a guilty verdict his record will be 0-0 just like Margorito.

[robpalmer135]

thanks to Tonifranz for helping with the count.

Here are the full results from 119 voters.


P4P
1. Manny Pacquiao - 1125
2. Floyd Mayweather - 1113
3. Chad Dawson - 666
4. Paul Williams - 600
5. Juan Manuel Marquez - 570
6. Sergio Martinez - 522
7. Wladamir Klitscko - 436
8. Shane Mosley - 216
9. Nonito Donaire - 191
10. Tim Bradley - 188
11. Fernando Montiel - 101
12. Andre Ward - 77
13. Miguel Cotto - 76
14. Lucian Bute - 75
15. Bernard Hopkins - 69
16. David Haye - 67
17. Vitali Klitscko - 60
18. Juan Manuel Lopez - 55
19. Celestino Caballero - 46
20. Tomasz Adamek - 43
21. Chris John - 39
22. Ivan Calderon - 22
23. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam - 21
24.Yuriorkis Gamboa - 13
25.Vic Darchinyan - 11
26.Andre Berto - 10
27.Andre Dirrell - 9
28.Mikkel Kessler - 8
29.Devon Alexander - 7
30.Carl Froch - 6
31.Nkoshinathi Joyi - 4
32.Marcos Maidana - 2
33.Anselmo Moreno - 1

[robpalmer135]

Fight of the Month results added.

[Brickhaus]

FWIW, th P4P rankings are a lot more solid than Ring's.

[NickBarker]

The wisdom of crowds, I suppose.

[robpalmer135]

119 of us so we get it right. Think theres a few who are over rated (Bute) but they will get found out soon

[WesT]

119 of us so we get it right. Think theres a few who are over rated (Bute) but they will get found out soon
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[WesT]

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[robpalmer135]

haha but Georgie Hagi is one of the best midfielders ever....

[WesT]

haha but Georgie Hagi is one of the best midfielders ever....
:lol: no he's not ...but he was one of those that are a joy to watch (very rare) ... and he played to Real and Braca
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[wow_junky]

Great work Rob, even if loads of people overrate Donaire!

[WesT]

Great work but he still took a cheep shot at Bute [Only registered and activated users can see links]

[CASH_718]

It's scary how shitty Super Featherweight is. The fact that Jason Liatzu has a good chance at winning a title and possibly even unifying shows how shitty the division.

[CarlesX7]

FWIW, th P4P rankings are a lot more solid than Ring's.
QFT. :deal

ESB has spoken.

Good job robpalmer135.

[robpalmer135]

It's scary how shitty Super Featherweight is. The fact that Jason Liatzu has a good chance at winning a title and possibly even unifying shows how shitty the division.

was having this convo with Kosaros the other day. Super Feather is weak but its a competative division in the sense any fight between a top 15 guy would be at least a 60-40

[robpalmer135]

Great work but he still took a cheep shot at Bute [Only registered and activated users can see links]

I just think he ducks the top names. could of been in the super 6 if he wanted to. not his fault but his managment. also they turned down a froch unification.

[robpalmer135]

If Dzinzurik wins on friday where do you think he goes on the rankings guys??

[WesT]

I just think he ducks the top names. could of been in the super 6 if he wanted to. not his fault but his managment. also they turned down a froch unification.
Well Froch turned down a IBF eliminator if i remember right. And how can he duck big names when he was not invited in the tourney ? He also said in interviews before Froch defeated Taylor that he is willing to fight Taylor or Hopkins in US. What do you mean he ducks top name's ? What... that he didn't called Calzaghe when he was still young and green or that he feels good at 168 and he doesn't wants to go up to fight Dawson at 175?(he'll probably fight him at 168 or 170) He wanted Pavlik Taylor Hopkins Green Stieglitz there where talks with Froch Kessler Green Stieglitz probably Pavlik to... So no he is not ducking big names.Ward Dirrell have recently became " name's " Abraham was a 160 fighter so who did he ducked ? Froch .... no he didn't they didn't agree on purse split and location if i recall right Froch wanted the fight in England Bute wanted the fight in Canada. So why all the guilt is on Bute .... Froch is as guilty as Bute that the fight didn't happened . And Froch after that join the S6

[CarlesX7]

It's stickied. :happy

[CASH_718]

was having this convo with Kosaros the other day. Super Feather is weak but its a competative division in the sense any fight between a top 15 guy would be at least a 60-40

Very true. The division is very weak but it is stacked with B- level fighters from #1 to #10.

[robpalmer135]

Well Froch turned down a IBF eliminator if i remember right. And how can he duck big names when he was not invited in the tourney ? He also said in interviews before Froch defeated Taylor that he is willing to fight Taylor or Hopkins in US. What do you mean he ducks top name's ? What... that he didn't called Calzaghe when he was still young and green or that he feels good at 168 and he doesn't wants to go up to fight Dawson at 175?(he'll probably fight him at 168 or 170) He wanted Pavlik Taylor Hopkins Green Stieglitz there where talks with Froch Kessler Green Stieglitz probably Pavlik to... So no he is not ducking big names.Ward Dirrell have recently became " name's " Abraham was a 160 fighter so who did he ducked ? Froch .... no he didn't they didn't agree on purse split and location if i recall right Froch wanted the fight in England Bute wanted the fight in Canada. So why all the guilt is on Bute .... Froch is as guilty as Bute that the fight didn't happened . And Froch after that join the S6

Froch didn't take the IBF eliminator because he was coming back from injury and had a high ranking with the WBC, in his eyes (not mine) a more prestigious belt.

Showtime have said that they spoke to Butes team about entering the tournament and for some reason Showtime decided not to move forward. There is only one reason why Showtime would have not put him in there and that due to stupid demands from Butes team.

The story in england is that Froch offered Bute better than 50-50 to come to the UK, where the fight would make more money and Butes team said no.

since then froch has faced 2 top 10 ranked fighters and Bute has fed of scraps, beating guys already smashed up by those in the Super 6.

By the way its not bute i have a problem with, its his promotional team who are happy to have him fight soft opponents and keep selling out the bell centre.

He can talk all he wants about fighting big names........but its still just talk until he actually does it.

[robpalmer135]

Very true. The division is very weak but it is stacked with B- level fighters from #1 to #10.

what would you say is the best division.

Obviously Welterweight but theres a lack of talent outside the top 5-6. Bantamweight is pretty hot especially when you consider Darchinyan and Donaire could come up.

[CASH_718]

what would you say is the best division.

Obviously Welterweight but theres a lack of talent outside the top 5-6. Bantamweight is pretty hot especially when you consider Darchinyan and Donaire could come up.

I'd say 147 just because of Pacquiao and Mayweather. Light Welterweight, Bantamweight and Featherweight look like big things are about to happen. Also Light Middleweight and Cruiserweight look pretty good.

[madkillaz692000]

sticky!!!

[robpalmer135]

I'd say 147 just because of Pacquiao and Mayweather. Light Welterweight, Bantamweight and Featherweight look like big things are about to happen. Also Light Middleweight and Cruiserweight look pretty good.

Where do you think Dzinzurik should go upon his return?

[Suga]

119 of us so we get it right. Think theres a few who are over rated (Bute) but they will get found out soon
Yeah I agree, Bute should be the number 3 supermiddle in the world, no way he is no 1.

[WesT]

Yeah I agree, Bute should be the number 3 supermiddle in the world, no way he is no 1.
Well ranking him the 3 SMW is not that bad, 1 or 2 is more fair imo. I still like to call him #1 if you don't mind [Only registered and activated users can see links]

[TeamAdamek]

tomasz adamek is ranked 4 in the heavyweight division after his last fight with arreola

[robpalmer135]

tomasz adamek is ranked 4 in the heavyweight division after his last fight with arreola

I would have him 5 personally. We shall see how Chagaev looks agaisnt Meehan.

[robpalmer135]

Well ranking him the 3 SMW is not that bad, 1 or 2 is more fair imo. I still like to call him #1 if you don't mind [Only registered and activated users can see links]

I would personally have Bute at number 2.

We did a vote before the Abraham vs Dirrell fight for who is the number 1 super middleweight. nobody got more than 30% of the vote between abraham, ward, froch and bute. Bute was voted number 1 thought.

[WesT]

I would personally have Bute at number 2.

We did a vote before the Abraham vs Dirrell fight for who is the number 1 super middleweight. nobody got more than 30% of the vote between abraham, ward, froch and bute. Bute was voted number 1 thought.
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Be happy :D

[puga_ni_nana]

nice work and props for keeping this updated. :good

[robpalmer135]

couple of good fights this weekend between top 10 guys.

Krzysztof Wlodarcyk vs Giocabbe Fragomeni for the WBC Cruiserweight title, ranked 3 and 6 respectivley. Will a KO win from the pole put him ahead of Huck in 2nd???

If Khan beats Mallignaggi is that a better win that any of Alexanders, I certainly think so, does he go ahed? Khan is ranked 3rd, Mallignaggi 5th. W

Where does the winner of Campbell and Ortiz stand. Ranked 10 an 12. Does the winner of Ngougo and Diaz replace them in the top 15?

Fight of the week has to be number 2 ranked Michael Katsidis agaisnt number 11 Kevin Mitchell. A win for either puts them in line for a fight with Juan Manuel Marquez for the vacant Wolrd Title.

and theres the return of Sergey Dzinzurik tonight. He was number 1 before being removed due to inactivity. Does a win tonight put him back there???

[CASH_718]

Where do you think Dzinzurik should go upon his return?

I say go after the Cotto/ Foreman winner or any of the other title holders. Or a fight with Angulo would be great for him. He should be able to box Angulo's ears off and Angulo is popular in the US and HBO likes him so that could be a pretty good medium risk/ high reward fight.

Also fights against Williams or Martinez would be good. I'd favor him over everyone at 154 and 45-55 with Martinez and 50-50 with Williams.

[golden boxer]

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[robpalmer135]

I say go after the Cotto/ Foreman winner or any of the other title holders. Or a fight with Angulo would be great for him. He should be able to box Angulo's ears off and Angulo is popular in the US and HBO likes him so that could be a pretty good medium risk/ high reward fight.

Also fights against Williams or Martinez would be good. I'd favor him over everyone at 154 and 45-55 with Martinez and 50-50 with Williams.

i meant where should he be ranked??

[robpalmer135]

Vote on where to rank Dzinzurik here;

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Vote on the Light Welterweight rankings here;

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[PH|LLA]

Here's my p4p rankings

1. Pac

2. PBF

3. Ward

4. JMM

5. Williams

6. Martinez

7. Donaire

8. Dawson

9. Vitali

10. Wlad

Hard to make the list after Pac and PBF. I think the p4p list is going through a period of transition and could shift around easily. Ward is unproven and people will be surprised I put him at #3 but I think he'll prove me right.

[robpalmer135]

Results for this weekend

Cruiserweight

Krzystof Wlodaczyk (3) beat Giacobbe Fragomeni (6) via Round 8 TKO for the vacant WBC Cruiserweight title - Wladaczyk to 2, Fragomeni to 11

Middleweight

Daniel Jacobs (11) beat Juan Astorga (U) via Round 2 TKO - No Movement

Light Middleweight

Sergiy Dzinzurik (Unranked due to rule #2) beat Daniel Dawson via Round 10 TKO for Dzinzurik's WBO Light Middleweight title - Dzinzurik to 2

Light Welterweight

Amir Khan (3) beat Paul Malignaggi (5) via Round 11 TKO for Khan's WBA Light Welterweight title - Malignaggi to 10

Victor Ortiz (12) beat Nate Campbell (10) via 10 Round UD - Ortiz to 5, Campbell now unranked, Cesar Cucena to 15

Lightweight

Humberto Soto (3) beat Ricardo Dominguez (U) via 12 Round UD for Soto's WBC Lightweight title - No Movement

Michael Katsidis (2) beat Kevin Mitchell (11) via Round 3 TKO - Mitchell now unranked, Miguel Vasquez to 15

Super Featherweight

Takashi Uchiyama (1) beat Angel Grandados (U) via Round 6 TKO for Uchiyama's WBC Super Featherweight title - No Movement

Featherweight

Orlando Salido (U) beat Cristobal Cruz (2) via 12 Round SD for Cruz's IBF Featherweight title - Salido to 4, Cruz to 8

Jhonny Gonzalez (12) beat Jean Javier Satelo (U) via Round 2 KO - Gonzalez to 11

Super Flyweight

Omar Navarez (5) beat Everth Briceno via 12 Round UD for the vacant WBO Super Flyweight title - Navarez to 4

[Paddy]

Middleweight
Champion: Sergio Martinez (Beat Kelly Pavlik April 2010)
1. Felix Sturm
2. Kelly Pavlik
3. Koren Gevor
4. Sebastian Sylvester
5. Anthony Mundine
6. Matthew Macklin
7. Dmitry Pirog
8. Gennady Golovkin
9. Sebastian Zbik
10. Daniel Geale
11. Daniel Jacobs
12. Roman Karmazin
13. Sergio Mora
14. Hassan N'Jikam
15. Darren Barker


Is that a pisstake???

[robpalmer135]

Is that a pisstake???

who else should it be?

[PH|LLA]

did you add in my p4p list?

[robpalmer135]

did you add in my p4p list?

we stopped the vote over a week ago.....but even if I had it wouldnt change anyones position.

[PH|LLA]

we stopped the vote over a week ago.....but even if I had it wouldnt change anyones position.
my bad I thought these lists were constantly updated.

[robpalmer135]

my bad I thought these lists were constantly updated.

everything but the P4P. your welcome to post your thoughts on the divisional rankings

[Paddy]

who else should it be?

Off the top of my head

Peter Mandredo and Andy Lee

I just dont rate barker

[robpalmer135]

Off the top of my head

Peter Mandredo and Andy Lee

I just dont rate barker

i accept there could be someone better but not Manfredo or Lee

[Paddy]

i accept there could be someone better but not Manfredo or Lee

what has Barker done to be above either?

Of course rankings are subjective :deal

[robpalmer135]

what has Barker done to be above either?

Of course rankings are subjective :deal

The simularities;

1) Both have decision wins over Afiff Belghacam. Barker may have stuggled but he caused Lee problems to.
2) Both have 6 TKO wins of Jason McKay.
3) They have almost the same number of fights, and knock outs.

The differences that mean Barker his ranked higher

1) Barker is undefeated
2) Barker has won an area and domestic title. Lee won a vacant domestic title at Super Middleweight
3) Barker has won the a continental title (Commonwealth) and defended it
4) Barker has won 6 12 Round fights, Lee has not has any
5) Barker is European champion. If you go through the rankings European and North American champions are ranked highly.

HW - Adameck (NABO)
CW - Macceranelli (EBU)
LHW - Cleverly (EBU)
SMW - Magee (EBU)
MW - Barker (EBU), Jacobs (NABO),
LMW - Rhodes (EBU) Martiroyson (NABO)
LWW - McCloskey (EBU)
LW - Murray (EBU)
SFW - Kyrakosion (EBU)
FW - Yefemichov (EBU), Perz (NABO)
SBW - Munroe (EBU)
FlW - Sarritzu (EBU)

if you can come up with 5 reasons why Andy Lee should be ranked ahead of Barker, which are about Lee's achievments and not downplaying Barkers, I will put Lee ahead.

[robpalmer135]

By the way I am not saying Barker will beat Lee or is a better fighter, just that he deserves to be ranked higher.

[robpalmer135]

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Where does Darchinyan rank at Bantamweight Poll

[robpalmer135]

Latest Update

Super Bantamweight

Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym (1) vs Shoji Kamura ( via Round 5 TKO - Kamura down to 11

Bantamweight

Vic Darchinyan (Champion SFlW) beat Eric Barcelona (U) via 12 Round UD - Darchinyan to 10th at Bantamweight

Super Flyweight

Vic Darchinyan moves to Bantamweight. Nontio Donaire vs Hugo Cazares or Omar Navarez will be for the vacant title if it takes place.

[antcull]

In the Bantamweight division Siderenko is inactive and Mabuza is soon to be. Also think Vic is too low on the rankings.

1. Fernando Montiel
2. Yohnny Perez
3. Anselmo Moreno
4. Joseph Agbeko
5. Hozumi Hasegawa
6. Nehomar Cermeno
7. Vic Darchinyan
8. Eric Morel
9. Abner Mares
10. Gerry Penalosa

Looks a bit better I reckon :good

[robpalmer135]

In the Bantamweight division Siderenko is inactive and Mabuza is soon to be. Also think Vic is too low on the rankings.

1. Fernando Montiel
2. Yohnny Perez
3. Anselmo Moreno
4. Joseph Agbeko
5. Hozumi Hasegawa
6. Nehomar Cermeno
7. Vic Darchinyan
8. Eric Morel
9. Abner Mares
10. Gerry Penalosa

Looks a bit better I reckon :good

thanks antcull. there is a poll on where to rank Darchinyan here. [Only registered and activated users can see links]

at the moment there is no majority so i will do an average. at the moment he is 9th, 7th if you remove the two inactives

[robpalmer135]

New ranking at BW

Bantamweight
Champion: (Vacant)
1. Fernando Montiel
2. Yohnny Perez
3. Anselmo Moreno
4. Joseph Agbeko
5. Hozumi Hasegawa
6. Nehomar Cermeno
7. Vic Darchinyan
8. Eric Morel
9. Gerry Penalosa
10. Abner Marez
11. Alexander Munoz
12. Jorge Arce
13. Miguel Domingo
14. AJ Banal
15. Alex Bakhitin

[robpalmer135]

results for last weekend

Heavyweight

Ruslan Chagaev (4) beat Kali Meehan (U) via 12 Round UD - No Movement

Light Middleweight

Ryan Rhodes (7) beat Luca Messi (U) via 6 Round TKO - No Movement

Lightweight

Ji Hoon Kim (12) beat Ameth Diaz (U) via Round 1 TKO - Kim to 10th

Super Featherweight

Vitali Tajbert ( beat Hector Velazquez (U) via Round 9 TD for Tajberts WBC Super Featherweight title - Tajbert up to 6th

Featherweight

Rafael Marquez (10) beat Israel Vazquez (9) via Round 3 TKO - Marquez to 3, Vazquez unranked, replaced by Eduardo Escobedo to 15

Super Bantamweight

Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym (1) vs Shoji Kamura ( via Round 5 TKO - Kamura down to 11

Bantamweight

Vic Darchinyan (Champion SFlW) beat Eric Barcelona (U) via 12 Round UD - Darchinyan to 10th at Bantamweight

Yhonny Perez (2) and Abner Mares (10) drew over 12 Rounds in a bout for Perez IBF Bantamweight title - Mares to 4th, and now eligible for the vacant Bantamweight championship due to rule 5d

Super Flyweight

Vic Darchinyan moves to Bantamweight. Nontio Donaire vs Hugo Cazares or Omar Navarez will be for the vacant title if it takes place.

Minimumweight

Juan Hernandez (U) beat Denver Cuello (12) via Round 3 DQ - Hernandez to 12

[robpalmer135]

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[robpalmer135]

Marquez goes in at 4

[jdubyah15]

Hey Rob, you have Yasutaka Kuroki listed twice in the light-flyweight rankings. I have no idea who would take one of those places, I was just letting you know.

[robpalmer135]

nice one mate.

[robpalmer135]

Results for final week of May


Heavyweight

Vitali Klitscko (1) beat Albert Sosnowski (15) via Round 10 KO for V.Klitscko's WBC Heavyweight title - Dimitrenko replaces Sosnowski at 15

Super Middleweight

Librando Andrade (9) beat Eric Lucas (U) via 8 Round TKO- No Movement

Welterweight

Souleyme M'Baye (U) beat Antonin Decaire (U) via 12 Round UD - M'Baye replaces Alvarez at 15

Lightweight

Miguel Acosta (7) beay Paulus Moses (6) via Round 6 TKO for Moses WBA Lightweight title - Acosta to 3, Moses to 14

Super Featherweight

Roman Martinez (3) beat Gonzalo Munaiga (U) via Round 4 TKO for Martinez's WBO Super Featherweight Title - Martinez to 2

Featherweight

Juan Carlos Burgos (U) beat Ricardo Castillo (U) via Round 11 TKO - Burgos replaces Escobedo at 15

Super Bantamweight

Wilfredo Vazquez Jnr (6) beat Zsolt Bedak (U) via 10 Round TKO for Vazquez Jnr's WBO Super Bantamweight title - Vazquez Jnr to 4

Light Flyweight

Luis Alberto Zarate (10 FlW) beat Carlos Tamara (2) via 12 Round SD for Tamara's IBF Flyweight title - Zarate to 2, Tamara to 3

[robpalmer135]

Full Results for May 2010

Heavyweight

Ruslan Chagaev (4) beat Kali Meehan (U) via 12 Round UD - No Movement

Vitali Klitscko (1) beat Albert Sosnowski (15) via Round 10 KO for V.Klitscko's WBC Heavyweight title - Dimitrenko replaces Sosnowski at 15

Cruiserweight

Marco Huck (2) beat Brian Minto (U) via Round 9 TKO for Huck's WBO Cruiserweight title - No Movement

Krzystof Wlodaczyk (3) beat Giacobbe Fragomeni (6) via Round 8 TKO for the vacant WBC Cruiserweight title - Wladaczyk to 2, Fragomeni to 11

Light Heavyweight

Karo Murat (10) beat Tommy Karpency (U) via 12 Round UD - No Movement

Super Middleweight

Librando Andrade (9) beat Eric Lucas (U) via 8 Round TKO- No Movement

Middleweight

Daniel Jacobs (11) beat Juan Astorga (U) via Round 2 TKO - No Movement

Light Middleweight

Paul Williams (2 MW) beat Kermit Cintron (2) via 4 Round TD - Williams to 1, Cintron to 3

Sergiy Dzinzurik (Unranked due to rule #2) beat Daniel Dawson via Round 10 TKO for Dzinzurik's WBO Light Middleweight title - Dzinzurik to 2

Ryan Rhodes (7) beat Luca Messi (U) via 6 Round TKO - No Movement

Welterweight

Floyd Mayweather (2) beat Shane Mosley (U) via 12 Round UD - Mayweather to 1, Mosley re-enters at 4

Saul Alvarez (U) beat Jose Miguel Cotto (U) via Round 9 TKO - Alvarez replaces Carlos Quintana at 15

Souleyme M'Baye (U) beat Antonin Decaire (U) via 12 Round UD - M'Baye replaces Alvarez at 15

Light Welterweight

Amir Khan (3) beat Paul Malignaggi (5) via Round 11 TKO for Khan's WBA Light Welterweight title - Malignaggi to 10

Victor Ortiz (12) beat Nate Campbell (10) via 10 Round UD - Ortiz to 5, Campbell now unranked, Cesar Cucena to 15

Lightweight

John Murray (14) beat Gary Buckland (U) via Round 11 TKO - No Movement

Humberto Soto (4) beat Ricardo Dominguez (U) via 12 Round UD for Soto's WBC Lightweight title - No Movement

Michael Katsidis (2) beat Kevin Mitchell (11) via Round 3 TKO - Mitchell now unranked, Miguel Vasquez to 15

Ji Hoon Kim (12) beat Ameth Diaz (U) via Round 1 TKO - Kim to 10th

Miguel Acosta (7) beay Paulus Moses (6) via Round 6 TKO for Moses WBA Lightweight title - Acosta to 3, Moses to 14

Super Featherweight

Jorge Solis (13) beat Mario Santiago (U) via 12 Round UD - Solis to 10

Takashi Uchiyama (1) beat Angel Grandados (U) via Round 6 TKO for Uchiyama's WBA Super Featherweight title - No Movement

Vitali Tajbert (8. beat Hector Velazquez (U) via Round 9 TD for Tajberts WBC Super Featherweight title - Tajbert up to 6th

Roman Martinez (3) beat Gonzalo Munaiga (U) via Round 4 TKO for Martinez's WBO Super Featherweight Title - Martinez to 2

Featherweight

Daniel Ponce De Leon (7) beat Cornelius Lock (11) via 12 Round UD - De Leon to 6, Lock unranked

Orlando Salido (U) beat Cristobal Cruz (2) via 12 Round SD for Cruz's IBF Featherweight title - Salido to 4, Cruz to 8

Jhonny Gonzalez (12) beat Jean Javier Satelo (U) via Round 2 KO - Gonzalez to 11

Rafael Marquez (10) beat Israel Vazquez (9) via Round 3 TKO - Marquez to 3, Vazquez unranked, replaced by Eduardo Escobedo to 15


Juan Carlos Burgos (U) beat Ricardo Castillo (U) via Round 11 TKO - Burgos replaces Escobedo at 15

Super Bantamweight

Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym (1) beat Shoji Kamura (8.)via Round 5 TKO for Kraitingdeaggym's WBA Super Bantamweight title - Kamura down to 14

Wilfredo Vazquez Jnr (6) beat Zsolt Bedak (U) via 10 Round TKO for Vazquez Jnr's WBO Super Bantamweight title - Vazquez Jnr to 4

Bantamweight

Vic Darchinyan (Champion SFlW) beat Eric Barcelona (U) via 12 Round UD - Darchinyan to 10th at Bantamweight

Yhonny Perez (2) and Abner Mares (10) drew over 12 Rounds in a bout for Perez IBF Bantamweight title - Mares to 4th

Super Flyweight

Hugo Cazares (4) beat Nobu Nashio (6) via 12 Round UD for Nashio's WBA Super Flyweight title - Cazaes to 3, Nashio to 8

Daisuro Naito (U) beat Lempetch Sor Verpol (U) via 12 Round US - Naito to 13

Omar Navarez (5) beat Everth Briceno via 12 Round UD for the vacant WBO Super Flyweight title - Navarez to 4

Vic Darchinyan moves to Bantamweight. Nontio Donaire vs Hugo Cazares or Omar Navarez will be for the vacant title if it takes place.

Light Flyweight

Luis Alberto Zarate (10 FlW) beat Carlos Tamara (2) via 12 Round SD for Tamara's IBF Flyweight title - Zarate to 2, Tamara to 3

Strawweight

Juan Hernandez (U) beat Denver Cuello (12) via Round 3 DQ - Hernandez to 12

[robpalmer135]

Where should Cotto rank P4P??

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[robpalmer135]

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[robpalmer135]

Results for June 5th 2010 Weekend

Cruiserweight

Steve Cunningham (1) beat Troy Ross (10) via Round 5 TKO - Troy Ross moves up to 5th

Yoan Pablo Hernandez (4) beat Zak Page (U) via 8 Round UD - No Movement

Middleweight

Sebastian Sylvester (4) and Roman Karmizan (12) drew in a bout for Sylvesters IBF Middleweight title - Karmizan up to 8th

Light Middleweight

Miguel Cotto (5WW) beat Yuri Foreman (3) for Foreman's IBF Light Middleweight title - Cotto to 2, Foreman to 3

Vanes Martoroysion (8) beat Joe Greene (U) via 10 Round UD - Martoroysion to 6th

Flyweight

Rocky Fluentes (U) beat Shigetaka Ikehara (U) via Round 11 TKO - Fluentes to 15

[Boxing Girl]

Cruiserweight
ESB Champion: (Vacant)
1. Steve Cunningham
2. Krzysztof Wlodarczyk
3. Marco Huck
4. Yoan Pablo Hernandez
5. Grigory Drozd
6. Troy Ross
7. Ola Afolabi
8. Victor Emilio Ramirez
9. Denis Lebedev
10. Danny Green
11. Giacobbe Fragomeni
12. BJ Flores
13. Alexander Alexeev
14. Matt Godfrey
15. Enzo Macceranelli

DEBATE THE CRUISERWEIGHT RANKINGS HERE

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What ever happened to Guillermo Jones :huh he won the WBA belt and disappeared.

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[robpalmer135]

What ever happened to Guillermo Jones :huh he won the WBA belt and disappeared.

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he is with Don King........so doesn't fight much. you got to of had a fight within 365 days to be ranked in the eastside rankings.

Theres a fight for the WBA interim title happening with Arslan the guy he beat, so maybe jones has retired although I have heard rumours he will be in the Cruierweight tournement Sauerland are putting on

[Bajingo]

Just a couple of things, Sechew Powell beat Deandre Latimore in a rematch but Latimore is still ranked higher.

Also Juan Diaz is still ranked as a light welter, his fight with JMM is at lightweight so he should be removed from the lww rankings.

[robpalmer135]

Just a couple of things, Sechew Powell beat Deandre Latimore in a rematch but Latimore is still ranked higher.

Also Juan Diaz is still ranked as a light welter, his fight with JMM is at lightweight so he should be removed from the lww rankings.

Thanks, have swaped Powell and Latimore round.

After the marquez fight Diaz will be re-ranked at Lightweight, until then he will remain at Light Welterweight. he hasnt been at Lightweight for over a year where his last 2 fights were at 140lbs.

He will probs get a top 10 rankings win, lose or draw against Marquez.

[Rumsfeld]

What exactly makes these rankings ESB's Forum's "official" rankings?

[robpalmer135]

What exactly makes these rankings ESB's Forum's "official" rankings?

The thread is a sticky thread in the main forum.

They are posted on the main site. [Only registered and activated users can see links]

The P4P rankings were done using a vote system.

every week the rankings are debated by forum members.

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Is there anything about the rankings system that you don't aprove off, any rules you don't like, are there any fighters you feel are to high or to low, please let me know.

[Rumsfeld]

The thread is a sticky thread in the main forum.

They are posted on the main site. [Only registered and activated users can see links]

The P4P rankings were done using a vote system.

every week the rankings are debated by forum members.

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Is there anything about the rankings system that you don't aprove off, any rules you don't like, are there any fighters you feel are to high or to low, please let me know.

What's the methodology used to derive the rankings?

[robpalmer135]

What's the methodology used to derive the rankings?

Rules

1) These rankings our for the fans, by the fans. They are formulated using polls, discussion and debate. The rankings must be based firstly on performance and level of opposition faced. Titles (Alphabet, Continental and domesrtic) will be used only to gague fighters potential. All opinions will be considered.

2) To be ranked fighters must have had a bout within 365 days. Fighters removed from the rankings will be re-ranked once they have boxed again depending on performance.

3) Fighters can only be ranked at one weight and will always be ranked in the last division the boxed in unless they state it's one off.

4) A fighter can become World Champion by beating the existing World Champion.

5) If a Championship is vacant in a division it can be won in a fight between the number 1 ranked fighter and another eligible fighter who will be marked in red

6)You can become an eligible fighter by;
a) Being ranked in the top 3 of your division.
b) Winning 3 fights in a row against ranked fighters
c) Winning or Drawing with another eligible fighter

7) A World Champion can lose their title by;
a) Losing a title fight
b) If a Champion consecutively fights 3 non ranked opponents they will be stripped.
c) Not defending the title within 365 days. If stripped for this reason they can regain the title by beating another eligible fighter upon there return.

8.) If a fighter is found to be cheating and suspended by a governing body they will be removed from the rankings. There record prior to the suspension will not be considered when they fight again.

9) The P4P rankings our done using a vote system. The last vote was taken in May 2010

[Rumsfeld]

Rules

1) These rankings our for the fans, by the fans. They are formulated using polls, discussion and debate. The rankings must be based firstly on performance and level of opposition faced. Titles (Alphabet, Continental and domesrtic) will be used only to gague fighters potential. All opinions will be considered.

2) To be ranked fighters must have had a bout within 365 days. Fighters removed from the rankings will be re-ranked once they have boxed again depending on performance.

3) Fighters can only be ranked at one weight and will always be ranked in the last division the boxed in unless they state it's one off.

4) A fighter can become World Champion by beating the existing World Champion.

5) If a Championship is vacant in a division it can be won in a fight between the number 1 ranked fighter and another eligible fighter who will be marked in red

6)You can become an eligible fighter by;
a) Being ranked in the top 3 of your division.
b) Winning 3 fights in a row against ranked fighters
c) Winning or Drawing with another eligible fighter

7) A World Champion can lose their title by;
a) Losing a title fight
b) If a Champion consecutively fights 3 non ranked opponents they will be stripped.
c) Not defending the title within 365 days. If stripped for this reason they can regain the title by beating another eligible fighter upon there return.

8.) If a fighter is found to be cheating and suspended by a governing body they will be removed from the rankings. There record prior to the suspension will not be considered when they fight again.

9) The P4P rankings our done using a vote system. The last vote was taken in May 2010

It's still not clear to me exactly how you are coming up with your individual lists? Seems way too subjective to have any remote value whatsoever.

You say the P4P is based on a vote?

What about the rest? Are there any formulas or equations involved? Or is it someone basically reading the opinions of others and haphazardly throwing a list together based on what he perceives?

These rules are all fine and well, but they don't say how the results are ultimately determined or by whom.

:smoke

[robpalmer135]

It's still not clear to me exactly how you are coming up with your individual lists? Seems way too subjective to have any remote value whatsoever.

You say the P4P is based on a vote?

What about the rest? Are there any formulas or equations involved? Or is it someone basically reading the opinions of others and haphazardly throwing a list together based on what he perceives?

These rules are all fine and well, but they don't say how the results are ultimately determined or by whom.

:smoke

theres no formula. Boxrec have shown that doesn't work. they have Danny Green number 1 at Cruiserweight FFS. He is not even top 15 with ESB.

Origionally the rankings were put together by taking a look at other places rankings, and forming our own. We used all major websites like the ring, boxrec, yahoo, espn, fightnews and so on. from there we put together top 10 and debated over it until we found something the majority would agree on.

With all major fights I will put together a poll or a thread and it will get discussed.

Take a look at these polls as an example on where to rank Darchinyan and Rafael Marquez and who is number 1 at Super Bantam after Pong and Vazquez fights recently.

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After the Cotto fight I posted a thread about the light middle rankings, the main questions posed is where should Cotto be ranked and where does Foreman go down to. The majority of people say 2nd so thats where he went.

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For minor fights I tend to make the changes myself, as you cannot run a poll for everything. However i reguarly run threads about each division and people debate over it. This one about the middleweights is going on right now so get involved. The general feeling is that Anthiny Mundine is to high.

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I have attempted to put together a rankings comitee previously but people were not commited to the idea. Have you read the PM i sent you.

[Rumsfeld]

Origionally the rankings were put together by taking a look at other places rankings, and forming our own. We used all major websites like the ring, boxrec, yahoo, espn, fightnews and so on. from there we put together top 10 and debated over it until we found something the majority would agree on.

With all major fights I will put together a poll or a thread and it will get discussed.

Take a look at these polls as an example on where to rank Darchinyan and Rafael Marquez and who is number 1 at Super Bantam after Pong and Vazquez fights recently.

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After the Cotto fight I posted a thread about the light middle rankings, the main questions posed is where should Cotto be ranked and where does Foreman go down to. The majority of people say 2nd so thats where he went.

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For minor fights I tend to make the changes myself, as you cannot run a poll for everything. However i reguarly run threads about each division and people debate over it. This one about the middleweights is going on right now so get involved. The general feeling is that Anthiny Mundine is to high.

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I have attempted to put together a rankings comitee previously but people were not commited to the idea. Have you read the PM i sent you.

I will check it in a minute.

Admirable effort putting this together, but to be honest, I have a very difficult time taking it seriously when I see, for example, Bute ranked #1 at super middle.

:smoke

[robpalmer135]

I will check it in a minute.

Admirable effort putting this together, but to be honest, I have a very difficult time taking it seriously when I seem for example, Bute ranked #1 at super middle.

:smoke

thanks.

Hey, I 100% agree with that myself but as with all rankings its down to the forum members. I posted a poll before the Froch vs Kessler and Abraham vs Dirrel fight on who was number 1 at Super Middle.

The results were very close.

Bute 29%
Ward 27%
Abraham 24%
Froch 20%

Since then Froch and Abraham have both lost, Ward has not had a fight and Bute beat Edison Miranda which is effectivley meaningless but doesn't mean he should go down.

After Ward vs Green, if Ward wins, I will run a poll again asking who is number 1 Bute or Ward. The winner will go 1st place and if Ward beats the number 3 fighter in the super 6 he will become ESB World Champion.

anything else you do not agree with??

[robpalmer135]

Debate the Welterweight rankings here

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[robpalmer135]

debate the middleweight rankings here.

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[robpalmer135]

The weekends changes.

Middleweight

Hassan N'Jakim (14) beat Samuel Miller (U) via Round 8 TKO - N'Jakim up to 13

Marco Antonio Rubio (U) beat Omar Weis (U) via 12 Round UD - Rubio replaces Domenico Spada at 15

Welterweight

Luis Collazo removed due to inactivity. Lucas Matthyesse in at 15.

Light Welterweight

Paul McCloskey (11) beat Guiseppe Lauri (U) via Round 11 TKO - No Movement

Light Flyweight

Ivan Caldeon (ESB World Champion) beat Jesus Ibre via 12 Round UD - No Movement

[robpalmer135]

Who is number 1 at Super Middleweight???

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[robpalmer135]

Results for weekend just gone

Super Middleweight

Andre Ward (2) beat Allan Green (10) via 12 Round UD for Ward's WBA Super Middleweight title in the Super Six Tournement - Ward voted to 1 by ESB Posters, Green to 15

Flyweight

Edren Dapudong (15 LFlW) beat Jesus Jiminez (11) via 1 Round TKO - Dapudong to 10, Jiminez unranked

Light Flyweight

Juan Carlos Reveco (15) beat Luis Poria (U) via Round 6 TKO - No Movement

Omar Nino Romero (10) beat Rodel Mayol (6) via 12 Round UD - Romero to 5, Maylor to 10

[PH|LLA]

what about the p4p rankings?

[PH|LLA]

btw, I can really appreciate the effort of what you are doing.

[robpalmer135]

what about the p4p rankings?

what about them? I don't think Wards win will elevate him P4P

[PH|LLA]

what about them? I don't think Wards win will elevate him P4P
I think it will. You should test it out at least.

[robpalmer135]

Poll on where to rank Ward P4P

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[PH|LLA]

well, you were right.

[Farmboxer]

That's why Ward refuses to fight anywhere except his home town.

Ward needs to fight Bute, but he won't .

[robpalmer135]

That's why Ward refuses to fight anywhere except his home town.

Ward needs to fight Bute, but he won't .

I don't think Dirrell fight is happening in Oakland a neutral venue probably vegas.

What evidence is there to show that Ward will not fight Bute? Only Bute ca be accused of ducking in the division he could have been in the super 6 if he wanted to.

[robpalmer135]

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Should Julio Cesar Chavez rank at Middleweight?

[Farmboxer]

Bute is the best 168 lb. fighter in the world.

[robpalmer135]

Bute is the best 168 lb. fighter in the world.

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more disagree than agree. also Bute doesnt have a single A win on his record.

[robpalmer135]

Results for June 2010

Cruiserweight

Steve Cunningham (1) beat Troy Ross (10) via Round 5 TKO - Troy Ross moves up to 5th

Yoan Pablo Hernandez (4) beat Zak Page (U) via 8 Round UD - No Movement

Grigorz Drozd removed due to inactivity. Replaced by Enad Licina.

Light Heavyweight

Shaun George removed due to inactivty. Replaced by Aleksy Kuziemski

Super Middleweight

Andre Ward (2) beat Allan Green (10) via 12 Round UD for Ward's WBA Super Middleweight title in the Super Six Tournement - Ward voted to 1 by ESB Posters, Green to 15

Middleweight

Sebastian Sylvester (4) and Roman Karmizan (12) drew in a bout for Sylvesters IBF Middleweight title - Karmizan up to 6th

Hassan N'Jakim (14) beat Samuel Miller (U) via Round 8 TKO - N'Jakim up to 13

Marco Antonio Rubio (U) beat Omar Weis (U) via 12 Round UD - Rubio replaces Domenico Spada at 15

Felix Strum unranked due to inactivity, Mundine moved down. Replaced by Lajuan Simon and Domenico Spada.

Light Middleweight

Miguel Cotto (5WW) beat Yuri Foreman (3) for Foreman's IBF Light Middleweight title - Cotto to 2, Foreman to 3

Vanes Martoroysion (8.) beat Joe Greene (U) via 10 Round UD - Martoroysion to 6th

Anthony Mundine (7MW) beats Carlos Jerez (U) via 12 Round UD - Mundine to 15

Welterweight

Luis Collazo removed due to inactivity. Lucas Matthyesse in at 15.

Light Welterweight

Paul McCloskey (11) beat Guiseppe Lauri (U) via Round 11 TKO - No Movement

Lightweight

Marco Antonio Barerra (U) beat Adailton De Jesus (U) via 10 Round UD - Barerra to 14

Super Flyweight

Raul Martinez (10) beat Gabriel Elizondo (U) via Round 7 TKO - Martinez to 9

Flyweight

Rocky Fluentes (U) beat Shigetaka Ikehara (U) via Round 11 TKO - Fluentes to 14

Edren Dapudong (15 LFlW) beat Jesus Jiminez (11) via 1 Round TKO - Dapudong to 10, Jiminez unranked

Light Flyweight

Ivan Caldeon (ESB World Champion) beat Jesus Ibre via 12 Round UD - No Movement

Juan Carlos Reveco (15) beat Luis Poria (U) via Round 6 TKO - No Movement

Omar Nino Romero (10) beat Rodel Mayol (6) via 12 Round UD - Romero to 5, Maylor to 10

[robpalmer135]

Results July 2nd 2010


Cruiserweight

Steve Herelius (U) beat Firat Arslan (Unranked due to inactivity) via Round 11 TKO - Herelius to 8th

Welterweight

Demitrius Hopkins (U) beat Mike Arnoutis (U) via 10 Round UD - Hopkins to 15

Super Flyweight

Hugo Cazares (2) beat Everando Morales (U) via Round 7 TKO - No movement

Flyweight

Pongsaklek Wonjongkam (World Champion) beat Rey Mergino (U) via 1 Round KO for the WBA Flyweight title - No Movement

Light Flyweight

Usiles Solis (7) beat Eric Ortiz (U) via 10 Round UD - No Movement

[robpalmer135]

Featherweight

Juan Manuel Lopez (1) beat Bernabe Conception (11) via Round 2 TKO - Conception to 13

Bantamweight

Nonito Donaire (1) beat Hernan Marquez (U) via Round 10 TKO - No Movement

[robpalmer135]

WHERE DOES JUANMA RANK P4P??

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[robpalmer135]

where does Zab Judah rank at Light Welterweight??

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[robpalmer135]

Results July 19th Weekend

Cruiserweight

Dennis Lebedev (4) beat Alexander Alexseev (10) via Round 2 TKO - Lebedev to 3, Alexseev replaced by Enad Licina

Light Middleweight

Alfredo Angulo (5) beat Joachim Acline (8.) via Round 1 TKO - Angulo to 3rd, Acline replaced by Basayngurov

Welterweight

Timothy Bradley (1LWW) beat Luis Carlos Abregu (10) via 12 Round UD - Bradley remains at LWW, Abregu to 14

Light Welterweight

Zab Judah (U) beat Jose Armando Santa Cruz (U) via Round 3 TKO - Judah to 8th

Lightweight

Antonio DeMarco (6) beat Daniel Attah (U) via Round 2 TKO - No Movement

Carlos Vein (U) beat Anthony Mezzache (10) via Round 8 TKO - Mezzache replaced by John Molina

Super Featherweight

Leva Kyrakosion (15) beat Fransico Nohais (U) via Round 2 TKO - Kryakosion to 12

Bantamweight

Fernando Montiel (1) beat Rafael Conception (14) via Round 3 TKO - Conception replaced by Cristian Mijares

Light Flyweight

Juan Carlos Reveco (U) beat Amorando Torres (U) via Round 5 TKO - Reveco to 12th

[Who'sNext]

i see you removes boxers due to inactivity, i don't want to be rude, but wtf is haye doing in the 2nd?

[robpalmer135]

i see you removes boxers due to inactivity, i don't want to be rude, but wtf is haye doing in the 2nd?

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Poll taken this week on who should rank higher Haye or Povetkin which Haye is winning.

You need to be inactive for a full year to be taken out of the rankings. Hayes last fight was only 3 months ago. If we removed haye due to inactivity we would also need to take out 75% of ranked fighters.

[robpalmer135]

latest update added.

[robpalmer135]

what changes would you make after last night?

[rooq]

i'd move pirog up to number 3 in the MW rankings, and drop jacob a couple of places

should juan diaz be re-ranked back at lightweight?

i'd have linares higher in the SFW rankings...maybe at number 5 ahead of litzau

[PH|LLA]

Linares vs Juarez was a LW fight

[robpalmer135]

Linares vs Juarez was a LW fight

was at 132lbs, Linares will go back down for championship fights.

[robpalmer135]

i'd move pirog up to number 3 in the MW rankings, and drop jacob a couple of places

should juan diaz be re-ranked back at lightweight?

i'd have linares higher in the SFW rankings...maybe at number 5 ahead of litzau

Gevor will be going up to super middle, so Pirog number 2??

yeh where should Diaz rank i would say around 5-6 the division is weak.

agree

[robpalmer135]

Results July 2010

Heavyweight

Alexander Dimitrenko beat Yarhslov Zavorotny (U) via Round 5 TKO - No Movement

Cruiserweight

Steve Herelius (U) beat Firat Arslan (Unranked due to inactivity) via Round 11 TKO - Herelius to 8th

Dennis Lebedev (4) beat Alexander Alexseev (10) via Round 2 TKO - Lebedev to 3, Alexseev replaced by Enad Licina

BJ Flores and Victor Emilio Ramierez removed due to inactivity replaced by Herbie Hide and Fransisco Palacios

Light Heavyweight

Beibut Shumenov (7) beat Viyacheslav Uzelkov (14) via 12 Round UD for Shumenov's WBA Light Heavyweight title - Shumenov to 6, Uzelkov to 15

Super Middleweight

Dimitri Sartison (10) beat Khoren Gevor (2MW) via 12 Round UD - Sartison to 8, Gevor Unranked

Jean Paul Mendy (12) beat Sakio Bika (9) via DQ in Round 1 - Bika to 13

Middleweight

Sebastian Zbik ( beat Jorge Heiland (U) via 12 Round UD - No Movement

Dimitri Pirog (6) beat Danny Jacobs (10) via Round 5 TKO for the vacant WBO Middleweight title - Pirog to 2, Jacobs to 13

Gevor replaced by Mahir Oral

Light Middleweight

Alfredo Angulo (5) beat Joachim Acline (8. via Round 1 TKO - Angulo to 3rd, Acline replaced by Basayngurov

Welterweight

Demitrius Hopkins (U) beat Mike Arnoutis (U) via 10 Round UD - Hopkins to 15

Timothy Bradley (1LWW) beat Luis Carlos Abregu (10) via 12 Round UD - Bradley remains at LWW, Abregu to 14

Delvin Rodrigurez (9) beat Ashley Theopean (U) via 10 Round UD - Rodrigurez now unranked. Mike Jones replaces Rodrigurez

Light Welterweight

Zab Judah (U) beat Jose Armando Santa Cruz (U) via Round 3 TKO - Judah to 8th

replaces Juan Diaz

Lightweight

Antonio DeMarco (6) beat Daniel Attah (U) via Round 2 TKO - No Movement

Carlos Vein (U) beat Anthony Mezzache (10) via Round 8 TKO - Mezzache replaced by John Molina

Juan Manuel Marquez (1) beat Juan Diaz (12LWW) via 12 Round UD for Marquez WBA/WBO Lightweight titles - Diaz to 5

Roberto Gurerreo ( beat Joel Casamayor (U) via 10 Round UD - Gurerreo to 6

Super Featherweight

Leva Kyrakosion (15) beat Fransico Nohais (U) via Round 2 TKO - Kryakosion to 12

Malcom Klassen removed due to inactivity, replaced by Mario Santiago

Jorge Linares ( beat Rockey Juarez (U) via 10 Round UD - Linares to 6

Featherweight

Juan Manuel Lopez (1) beat Bernabe Conception (11) via Round 2 TKO - Conception to 13

Jhonny Gonzalez (10) beat Areseros Perez (U) via Round 2 TKO - No Movement

Bantamweight

Fernando Montiel (1) beat Rafael Conception (14) via Round 3 TKO - Conception replaced by Cristian Mijares

Jorge Arce (12) beat Martin Castillo (U) via Round 1 TKO - Arce to 10

Super Flyweight

Hugo Cazares (2) beat Everando Morales (U) via Round 7 TKO - No movement

Nonito Donaire (1) beat Hernan Marquez (U) via Round 10 TKO - No Movement

Rodrigo Guerrero (8.) beat Federica Cataubay (U) via 12 Round UD - No Movement

Juan Alberno Rojas (U) beat Simphine Nonggayi (4) via Round 5 TKO for Nonggayi's IBF Super Flyweight title - Rojas to 4, Nonggayi to 10

Flyweight

Pongsaklek Wonjongkam (World Champion) beat Rey Mergino (U) via 1 Round KO for the WBA Flyweight title - No Movement

Light Flyweight

Usiles Solis (7) beat Eric Ortiz (U) via 10 Round UD - No Movement

Juan Carlos Reveco (U) beat Amorando Torres (U) via Round 5 TKO - Reveco to 12th

[Brickhaus]

Pirog at #2 seems awfully high to me. I mean, even with a good win now, no way is his middleweight resume better than Kelly Pavlik's.

Also, does Bika deserve that big of a drop for getting DQed in a fight where he was obviously beating the crap out of the other guy?

Last, Rodrigo Guerrero also fought last week and I don't see his fight up there. Not sure his win over Catubay (or the fact that Rosas beat Nongqayi, and Guerrero beat Rosas a year ago) means he moves at all in the rankings though.

[robpalmer135]

Pirog at #2 seems awfully high to me. I mean, even with a good win now, no way is his middleweight resume better than Kelly Pavlik's.

Also, does Bika deserve that big of a drop for getting DQed in a fight where he was obviously beating the crap out of the other guy?

Last, Rodrigo Guerrero also fought last week and I don't see his fight up there. Not sure his win over Catubay (or the fact that Rosas beat Nongqayi, and Guerrero beat Rosas a year ago) means he moves at all in the rankings though.

Pavlik is still ranked ahead of Pirog???

Bika can come back. We couldnt bring Mendy up after the dq win, so think Bika should come down, in truth hes never had a b class win in his whole career.

will look up the rogrigo gurerro guy, can u post a boxrec link....thanks for letting me know.

[robpalmer135]

Rodrigo Guerrero's win has been added but I don't think the win moves him to much?

are you an expert on the lower weights?

[Brickhaus]

I wouldn't say I'm an expert, but I follow the guys I think are around the top 10 from doing my weekly schedule and results posts at BLH. I still don't have a great grip of the 10 - 30 range at 105 and 112 especially.

I just noticed the Guerrero victory wasn't in your July 2010 post, so I was mentioning it. Not that it's relevant, but that win was a title eliminator, so Guerrero is mandatory for the IBF belt again and will get to rematch Rosas soon I suppose.

If anything would have caused Guerrero to move up, it's probably because Rosas beat Nongqayi and Guerrero beat Rosas; still, Guerrero got the crap beat out of him by Darchinyan a couple fights back.

I thought you said Pirog moved up to #2. I would think he'd still be behind Martinez, Sturm and Pavlik is all.

[robpalmer135]

I wouldn't say I'm an expert, but I follow the guys I think are around the top 10 from doing my weekly schedule and results posts at BLH. I still don't have a great grip of the 10 - 30 range at 105 and 112 especially.

I just noticed the Guerrero victory wasn't in your July 2010 post, so I was mentioning it. Not that it's relevant, but that win was a title eliminator, so Guerrero is mandatory for the IBF belt again and will get to rematch Rosas soon I suppose.

If anything would have caused Guerrero to move up, it's probably because Rosas beat Nongqayi and Guerrero beat Rosas; still, Guerrero got the crap beat out of him by Darchinyan a couple fights back.

I thought you said Pirog moved up to #2. I would think he'd still be behind Martinez, Sturm and Pavlik is all.

yeh but Martinez is champion. Pavlik is 1 and sturm is not ranked as he hasnt had a fight on over year. unless he looks like crap agaisnt lorezno, he will got 1-2 ahead of pirog.

[robpalmer135]

Results August 2010

Light Heavyweight

Tavoris Cloud (5) beat Glenn Johnson (4) via 12 Round UD for Cloud's IBF Light Heavyweight title - Cloud to 3, Johnson to 5

Light Middleweight

Cornelius Bundrage (12) beat Cory Spinks (U) via Round 5 TKO for Spink's IBF Light Middleweight title - Bundrage to 8

Light Welterweight

Devon Alexander (2) beat Alexander Kotelnik (U) via 12 Round UD for Alexander's WBC & IBF Light Welterweight titles - Alexander to 3, Kotelnik to 4

Featherweight

Antonio Escalente (U) beat Edel Ruiz (U) via Round 3 TKO - Escalente to 13

[robpalmer135]

new p4p rankings vote begins right after Dawson vs Pascal.

[anarci]

i Have 2 guys tied for 10th. Which happens to be Wlad and Cotto to i have to select 1 or with both guys be granted 1 point?

[robpalmer135]

NEW P4P RANKINGS VOTE HERE

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[Journey Man]

Is Pascal now LHW Champion?

[robpalmer135]

Is Pascal now LHW Champion?

yes will update on monday

[robpalmer135]

Results August 16th 2010

Heavyweight

Chris Arreola (12) beat Manuel Quezada (U) via 12 Round UD - No Movement

Light Heavyweight

Jean Pascal (1) beat Chad Dawson (ESB World Champion) via 11 Round TD for Pascals WBC Light Heavyweight title - Pascal NEW ESB World Light Heavyweight Champion, Dawson to 1

Middleweight

Gennady Golovkin (5) beat Milton Nunez (U) via Round 1 KO - No Movement

Lightweight

Miguel Vasquez (12) beat Ji Hoon Kim (10) via 12 Round UD for the vacant IBF Lightweight title - Vasquez to 6, Kim to 14

Super Featherweight

Elroy Perez (14) beat Derrick Campos via Round 5 TKO - Perez to 13

Featherweight

Miguel Angel Garcia (U) beat Cornelius Lock (U) via Round 11 TKO - Garcia to 14

Bantamweight

Anselmo Moreno (2) beat Nehmoar Cermano (3) via 12 Round SD for Moreno's WBA Bantamweight title - Cermano to 4

Minnimumweight

Donnie Nietes (4) beat Mario Rodrigurez (U) via 12 Round UD for Nietes WBO Minnimumweight title - No Movement

[robpalmer135]

Results August 23rd 2010


Heavyweight

Tomasz Adamek (5) beat Michael Grant (U) via 12 round UD - No Movement

Robeert Herenius (15) beat Gregory Tony (U) via 6 Round TKO - No Movement

Cruiserweight

Marco Huck (4) beat Matt Godfrey (10) via Round 5 TKO - Huck to 3rd, Godfrey replaced by Pawel Kolodziej

Enad Licina (13) beat Ismail Abdoul (U) via 8 Round UD - No Movement

Middleweight

Marco Antonio Rubio (12) beat Jose Zereutch (U) via 8 Round UD - No Movement

[EJDiaZ]

Good list..

[robpalmer135]

Results August 2010


Heavyweight

Chris Arreola (12) beat Manuel Quezada (U) via 12 Round UD - No Movement

Tomasz Adamek (5) beat Michael Grant (U) via 12 round UD - No Movement

Robeert Herenius (15) beat Gregory Tony (U) via 6 Round TKO - No Movement

Cruiserweight

Marco Huck (4) beat Matt Godfrey (10) via Round 5 TKO - Huck to 3rd, Godfrey replaced by Pawel Kolodziej

Enad Licina (13) beat Ismail Abdoul (U) via 8 Round UD - No Movement

Light Heavyweight

Tavoris Cloud (5) beat Glenn Johnson (4) via 12 Round UD for Cloud's IBF Light Heavyweight title - Cloud to 3, Johnson to 5

Jean Pascal (1) beat Chad Dawson (ESB World Champion) via 11 Round TD for Pascals WBC Light Heavyweight title - Jean Pascal NEW ESB World Light Heavyweight Champion

Middleweight

Gennady Golovkin (5) beat Milton Nunez (U) via Round 1 KO - No Movement

Marco Antonio Rubio (12) beat Jose Zereutch (U) via 8 Round UD - No Movement

Light Middleweight

Cornelius Bundrage (12) beat Cory Spinks (U) via Round 5 TKO for Spink's IBF Light Middleweight title - Bundrage to 8

Welterweight

Viachaslev Senchenko (7) beat Charlie Navarro (U) via 12 Round UD for Senchenko's WBA Welterweight title - No Movement

Light Welterweight

Devon Alexander (2) beat Alexander Kotelnik (U) via 12 Round UD for Alexander's WBC & IBF Light Welterweight titles - Alexander to 3, Kotelnik to 4

Marcos Maidana (5) beat DeMarcus Corley (U) via 12 Round UD - No Movement

Lightweight

Miguel Vasquez (12) beat Ji Hoon Kim (10) via 12 Round UD for the vacant IBF Lightweight title - Vasquez to 6, Kim to 14

Super Featherweight

Elroy Perez (14) beat Derrick Campos via Round 5 TKO - Perez to 13

Featherweight

Antonio Escalente (U) beat Edel Ruiz (U) via Round 3 TKO - Escalente to 13

Miguel Angel Garcia (U) beat Cornelius Lock (U) via Round 11 TKO - Garcia to 14

Bantamweight

Anselmo Moreno (2) beat Nehmoar Cermano (3) via 12 Round SD for Moreno's WBA Bantamweight title - Cermano to 4

Super Flyweight

Volodymer Sydorenko (12BW) beat Mdawa Matumla (U) via 12 Round UD - Sydorenko to 10

Light Flyweight

Giovanno Segura (1) beat Ivan Calderon (ESB Champ) via Round 8 KO for the WBC & WBO Light Flyweight titles - Giovanni Segura the NEW ESB World Light Flyweight Champion.

Minnimumweight

Donnie Nietes (4) beat Mario Rodrigurez (U) via 12 Round UD for Nietes WBO Minnimumweight title - No Movement

[robpalmer135]

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[robpalmer135]

Results September 2010



Middleweight

Feliz Sturm (U) beat Giovanni Lorenzo (U) via 12 Round UD for Sturms WBA Middleweight title - Sturm to 1, Lorenzo to 15

Welterweight

Jan Zaveck (6) beat Rafael Jaseckwiek (9) beat via 12 Round MD for Zaveck's IBF Welterweight title - Zaveck to 9, Jaseckwiek to 11

Super Featherweight

Mzonke Fana (3) beat Cassius Baloyi (9) via 12 Round UD for the vacant IBF Super Featherweight title - Fana to 2, Baloyi unranked

Ricky Burns (U) beat Roman Martinez (3) via 12 Round UD for Martinez's WBO Super Featherweight title - Burns to 3, Martinez to 7

Light Flyweight

Roman Gonzalez (1MinW) beat Jesus Iminez (U) via Round 2 TKO - Gonzalez to 9

Omar Nino Romero (2) beat Ronald Barerra (U) via Round 6 TKO for Romero's WBC Light Flyweight title - No Movement

Minnimumweight

Raul Garcia (7) beat Samuel Garcia (U) via 7 Round TKO - Garcia to 6

Oleydong Sithshamerchai (2) drew with Pornsawan Pompramook (U) for Sithshamerchai's WBC Mininumweight title - Pompramook to 3

[Brickhaus]

Gonzalez should probably still be at minimumweight and not light flyweight. He just took a creampuff fight a weight class up to be in front of the home crowd, but he's still keeping his title at 105.

[antcull]

Gonzalez should probably still be at minimumweight and not light flyweight. He just took a creampuff fight a weight class up to be in front of the home crowd, but he's still keeping his title at 105.

Thought he was fighting for a 108 belt on the Nishioka-Munroe U/C

[antcull]

Luis Lazarte is the IBF 108 champ, not Tamara. Also Johnriel Casimero lost recently to an unranked guy, he shouldnt be there anymore. You got 16 guys ranked there as well.

Also don't agree with Pornsawan Pompamook going to 3 above Nietes at 105 because of a draw with Sithsamerchai. Nietes recent work has far more depth and good wins, including a win over Pompamook

[antcull]

Results September 2010

Jan Zaveck (6) beat Rafael Jaseckwiek (9) beat via 12 Round MD for Zaveck's IBF Welterweight title - Zaveck to 9, Jaseckwiek to 11



How did a Zaveck win move him down? :huh

I don't understand how Alvorado warrants being at 7 yet Zaveck who has 2 good wins the past year is below him.

[robpalmer135]

Roman Gonzalez is fighting No.3 ranked IBF Light flyweight champ october 24th so we will keep him there.

Nietes & PP have switched

Zaveck got another dodgy decision win. Both looked poor. Alvarado ahead by default.

[antcull]

Roman Gonzalez is fighting No.3 ranked IBF Light flyweight champ october 24th so we will keep him there.

Nietes & PP have switched

Zaveck got another dodgy decision win. Both looked poor. Alvarado ahead by default.

What you on about Rob? :huh

Zaveck clearly won, he looked pretty good.

[robpalmer135]

What you on about Rob? :huh

Zaveck clearly won, he looked pretty good.

different to reports ive heard.

have changed it.

[antcull]

different to reports ive heard.

have changed it.

:good

Jackiewicz did look like shite though, considerin his win over Rodriguez was a robbery as well I couldn't really justify him being 11th.

You have Mthalane ranked twice at 112.

[BoppaZoo]

John being ruled out due to inactivity is horse shit.

If that was PBF he will still be ranked if he had taken a year off.

Plus John still hold the WBA belt.........

I dont get it.

[robpalmer135]

John being ruled out due to inactivity is horse shit.

If that was PBF he will still be ranked if he had taken a year off.

Plus John still hold the WBA belt.........

I dont get it.

In the rules which were agreed upon by esb posters it says;

2) To be ranked fighters must have had a bout within 365 days. Fighters removed from the rankings will be re-ranked once they have boxed again depending on performance.

Chris John last fought 19th September 2009. He has no fight scheduled....so I am a bit early in removing him but it would only happen in 10 days anyway.

Mayweather was not ranked after his 20 month lay off. If he doesn't fight again before May he will be removed.

The belt means nothing. Before being removed Chris John was ESB Champ at featherweight. He has failed to defend the belt for a year. Guilermo Jones is he cruiserweight WBA champion and he is not ranked either.

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this weeks results

Results September 2010

Heavyweight

Wladamir Klitscko (ESB Champ) retained his title beating Samuel Peter ( via 10 round TKO for the ESB, IBF & WBO Heavyweight titles - Peter to 12

Super Middleweight

Brain Magee (9) beat Roman Armaryn (U) via 12 Round UD - No Movement

Lightweight

Brandon Rios (15) beat Anthony Peterson (10) via Round 7 DQ - Rios to 8, Peterson replaced by Urban Antalion

Super Bantamweight

Steve Molitor (3) beat Jason Booth (10) via 12 Round UD for Molitors IBF Super Bantamweight title - Booth to 15

Kiko Martinez (U) beat Arsen Martoroysion (U) via 12 Round UD - Martinez to 14

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no sticky?

[robpalmer135]

??

[Rumsfeld]

Heavyweight

Wladamir Klitscko (ESB Champ) retained his title beating Samuel Peter ( via 10 round TKO for the ESB, IBF & WBO Heavyweight titles - Peter to 12

Will Haye be dropped from your list if A-Force pulls the upset?

:smoke

[robpalmer135]

Will Haye be dropped from your list if A-Force pulls the upset?

:smoke

Of course. Really depends on how the fight plays out. Not going to happen though is it.

[robpalmer135]

rankings updates. results will be added later today.

[robpalmer135]

results will be added shortly

[Boxing Girl]

results will be added shortly

DAVID HAYE HATER :bart

[Lexar]

Nice thread

[robpalmer135]

latest results added.

[arsabs]

thought i clicked on a gay forum.sick avs.:verysad

[robpalmer135]

rankings updates results to follow.

FOTM results. [Only registered and activated users can see links]

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Results September 2010

Heavyweight

Wladamir Klitscko (ESB Champ) retained his title beating Samuel Peter (8.) via 10 round TKO for the ESB, IBF & WBO Heavyweight titles - Peter to 12

Cruiserweight

Alexander Frenkel (11) beat Enzo Maccarinelli (10) via 7 Round TKO - Frenkel to 7, Maccarinelli unranked. Layteef Kayode to 15

Krzysztof Wlodarczyk (2) beat Jason Robisnon (U) via 12 Round UD for Wlodarczyk's WBC Cruiserweight title - No Movement

Light Heavyweight

Nathan Cleverly (12) beat Kara Murat (11) via 10 Round TKO - Cleverly to 9, Murat to 15

Super Middleweight

Brain Magee (9) beat Roman Armaryn (U) via Round 8 TKO - No Movement

Middleweight

Felix Sturm (U) beat Giovanni Lorenzo (U) via 12 Round UD for Sturms WBA Middleweight title - Sturm to 1, Lorenzo to 15

Matthew Macklin (12) beat Shalva Jonardashvelli (U) via Round 7 TKO - No Movement

Light Middleweight

Anthony Mundine (13) beat Ryan Walters (U) via Round 10 TKO - No Movement

Lukas Konecny ( beat Matthew Hall (U) via Round 6 TKO - No Movement

Saul Alvarez (15) beat Carlos Baldomir (U) via Round 6 KO - Alvarez to 14

Shane Mosley (4WW) and Sergio Mora (14MW) drew over 12 Rounds - Mosley to 10, Mora to 11

Welterweight

Jan Zaveck (6) beat Rafael Jaseckwiek (9) beat via 12 Round MD for Zaveck's IBF Welterweight title - Zaveck to 9, Jaseckwiek to 11

Kell Brook (U) beat Michael Jennings (U) via Round 5 TKO - Brook to 15

Light Welterweight

Victor Ortiz (6) beat Vivian Harris (U) via Round 3 KO - No Movement

Lightweight

Brandon Rios (15) beat Anthony Peterson (10) via Round 7 DQ - Rios to 8, Peterson replaced by Urban Antalion

Humberto Soto (3) beat Fadel Munoz (U) via 12 Round UD for Soto's WBC Lightweight title - No Movement

John Murray (12) beat Andriy Kurdistev (U) bia 9 Round TKO - Murray to 11

Super Featherweight

Mzonke Fana (3) beat Cassius Baloyi (9) via 12 Round UD for the vacant IBF Super Featherweight title - Fana to 2, Baloyi unranked

Ricky Burns (U) beat Roman Martinez (3) via 12 Round UD for Martinez's WBO Super Featherweight title - Burns to 3, Martinez to 7

Takiashi Uchiyama (1) beat Roy Mukhlis (U) via Round 5 TKO for Uchiyama's WBA Super Featherweight title - No Movement

Featherweight

Chris John stripped of World Championship due to inactivity. He can regain if he remains number 1 and defeats a top 10 opponent within the next 200 days.

Daniel Ponce De Leon ( beat Antonio Escalente (10) via Round 3 TKO - De Leon to 7, Escalente to 15

Super Bantamweight

Steve Molitor (3) beat Jason Booth (10) via 12 Round UD for Molitors IBF Super Bantamweight title - Booth to 15

Kiko Martinez (U) beat Arsen Martoroysion (U) via 12 Round UD - Martinez to 14

Jorge Arce (U) beat Lorenzo Pana (U) via 10 Round SD - Arce to 15

Super Flyweight

Tomas Rojas (U) beat Kohei Kono (U) via 12 Round UD for the vacant WBC Super Flyweight title - Rjoas to 8

Yota Sato (U) beat Daie Nakhiro (U) via 10 Round UD - Sato to 15

Flyweight

Wilbert Uicab (15) beat Eduard Dapudong (10) via 12 Round UD - Uicab to 8, Dapuong to 15

Daiki Kameda (1) beat Takefumi Sakata (U) via 12 Round UD Kameda's WBA Flyweight title - No Movement

Light Flyweight

Roman Gonzalez (1MinW) beat Jesus Iminez (U) via Round 2 TKO - Gonzalez to 9

Omar Nino Romero (2) beat Ronald Barerra (U) via Round 6 TKO for Romero's WBC Light Flyweight title - No Movement

Ramon Garcia Harales (U) beat Manuel Vargas (U) via 12 Round MD - Hareles to 15

Denver Cuello (U) beat Muhamed Rachman (U) via Round 9 TKO - Cuello to 12

Minnimumweight

Raul Garcia (7) beat Samuel Garcia (U) via 7 Round TKO - Garcia to 6

Oleydong Sithshamerchai (2) drew with Pornsawan Pompramook (U) for Sithshamerchai's WBC Mininumweight title - Pompramook to 3

[Journey Man]

Well done Mr Burns.

[robpalmer135]

Results October 2010


Cruiserweight

Guilermo Jones (U) beat Valery Byrdov (U) via Round 11 TKO for Jones WBA Cruiserweight title - Jones to 7

Light Welterweight

Paul McCloskey (12) beat Barry Morrison (U) via Round 7 TKO - No Movement

Super Featherweight

Stephen Foster Jnr (U) beat Leva Kyrakosion (9) via Round 3 TKO - Foster Jnr to 10

Super Bantamweight

Ryol Li Leo (U) beat Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym (1) via 12 Round UD - Leo to 2, Kratingdaenggym to 3

Flyweight

Luis Concepcion (12) beat Denkasoan Krovechat (2) via Round 1 TKO - Concepcion to 1, Krovechat to 12

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Pong jsut defended his ESB title.

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updated.

[scrubber]

the klits have to be one and two

[robpalmer135]

the klits have to be one and two

they are???

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Results added.

[kosaros]

The light-flys need to be updated a bit. Kuroki challenged for the OPBF minimumweight title last time out and Milan Melindo has been fighting at flyweight for his last couple of fights. Also, Sonny Boy Jaro (should he be ranked?) is fighting at super-fly in a couple of weeks time.

I think Kazuto Ioka should be ranked now as well :good

[project x]

just like to say well done to ricky burns,i know this is a bit late but still

theres only one rickkkkkyyyyyyy burnnnnnnssssss :happy

[kettu]

Ramon Hareles is WBO Light-Flyweight titleist, not Segura.

[robpalmer135]

Ramon Hareles is WBO Light-Flyweight titleist, not Segura.

The light-flys need to be updated a bit. Kuroki challenged for the OPBF minimumweight title last time out and Milan Melindo has been fighting at flyweight for his last couple of fights. Also, Sonny Boy Jaro (should he be ranked?) is fighting at super-fly in a couple of weeks time.

I think Kazuto Ioka should be ranked now as well :good

Let me know what you think???

Super-Flyweight (115lbs)
ESB World Champion: (Vacant)
1. Nonito Donaire
2. Hugo Cazares (WBA)
3. Omar Navarez (WBO)
4. Juan Alberto Rosas (IBF)
5. Jose Lopez
6. Nobou Nashiro
7. Duangpetch Saengmorakot
8. Rogrigo Guerrero
9. Raul Martinez
10. Tomas Rojas (WBC)
11. Volodymer Sydorenko
12. Simphiwe Nongqayi
13. Kohei Kono
14. Daisuke Naito
15. Yota Sato

Flyweight (112lbs)
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ESB World Champion: Pongsanklek Wonjongham (WBC) - Beat Koki Kameda March 2010
1. Luis Conception
2. Daiki Kameda (WBA)
3. Koki Kameda
4. Julio Cesar Miranda (WBO)
5. Moruti Mthalane (IBF)
6. Takefumi Sakata
7. Cesar Seda
8. Wilbert Ulcab
9. Suriyan Por Chokchai
10. Zoliani Tete
11. Andrea Sarritzu
12. Denkaosan Kaovichit
13. Rocky Fluentes
14. Milan Melindo
15. Hiroyuki Hisataka

Light-Flyweight (108lbs)
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ESB World Champion: Giovanni Segura (WBA) - Beat Ivan Calderon August 2010
1. Ivan Calderon
2. Omar Nino Ramero (WBC)
3. Luis Alberto Lazarate (IBF)
4. Edgar Sosa
5. Carlos Tamara
6. Brian Viloria
7. Ulises Solis
8. Rodel Mayol
9. Roman Gonzalez
10. Ryo Miyazaki
11. Sonny Boy Jaro
12. Juan Carlos Reveco
13. Ramon Garcia HIreles (WBO)
14. Kazuto Ioka
15. Marlon Tapales

Strawweight (105lbs)
ESB World Champion: (Vacant)
1. Nkosinathi Joyi (IBF)
2. Oleydong Sithsamerchai (WBC)
3. Donnie Nietes (WBO)
4. Pornsawan Pompamook
5. Juan Palacios
5. Raul Garcia
7. Michael Landero
8. Florante Condes
9. Ronald Barrera
10. Yasutaka Kuroki
11. Tsheo Lefele
12. Denver Cuello
13. Juan Hernandez
14. Akira Yaegashi
15. Sammy Guierrez

WBA title vacant

[pahapoisu]

Seriously...WTF? is up with that picture...

[robpalmer135]

Not my choice. its will just get taken down again.