What's the deal with the Ricky Hatton song?

[djrock247]

Anyone know the genesis of this little ditty. I know it's sung to the tune of Christmas standby "Winter Wonderland" but has anyone stepped forward to claim responsibility for penning this ingeniously written song? Seriously, I think I'd rather listen to a bunch of Brits farting into a microphone than listen to that song again. If I were Ricky Hatton I'd respectfully ask my fans to write a better song!

[Sai]

Its a staple of English sports chants. You simply replace the word winter with the name of your favorite sportsman/team and you have a premade chant.

[Farmboxer]

Blue Moon was a song from the '50's, had has always used it. Someone I know from Scotland was telling me about all the chants at their sports, England, Ireland, Wales, etc.

[Sai]

Blue Moon was a song from the '50's, had has always used it. Someone I know from Scotland was telling me about all the chants at their sports, England, Ireland, Wales, etc.

Blue Moon is his ringwalk song. Its the club song of Man City, he was on trial with them as a kid and his Dad used to play for them as a pro.

[djrock247]

Blue Moon was a song from the '50's, had has always used it. Someone I know from Scotland was telling me about all the chants at their sports, England, Ireland, Wales, etc.

I actually love the song Blue Moon and the bastardized punk version actually works well for Ricky Hatton. I've got no problem with that but that fan chant is downright comical. As for the other poster criticizing my lack of knowledge as pertains to "brit culture", you've got me there. I'll be the first to admit that we across the pond are not exactly keen to "brit culture". At the same time, I'm sure there's a lot of stuff that goes on here in New York that would certainly throw you guys for a loop!

[Beebs]

Its because theres only one Ricky Hatton....motherfucker.

[smokey]

Its a staple of English sports chants. You simply replace the word winter with the name of your favorite sportsman/team and you have a premade chant.

Yeah.... I still find it really stupid sounding. I guess it's just one of those cultural things that doesn't translate.

[scurlaruntings]

Bluemoon is a pile of shit. There all dosey northerners so what you expect.

[scurlaruntings]

Scur-vy why are you such a hater, Blue Moon is a classic, walking in an X wonderland is a classic!Scurvy! See thats how i know your another dippy northerner.Its only you inbred lot that get that disease.Surely its not still floating around manchester! I thought that disease went out with the dinosaurs!! Anyway bluecheese is a pile of cack.The song is shit and so are them tassles on Rickys shorts.

[scurlaruntings]

Southern fairy!NORTHERN MONKEY!

[scurlaruntings]

Im having troble thinking of a decent current boxer from London, can you help me? Are all our champions from the North?All? Only Ricky is from there.And that tit Scott Harrison doesnt count. Witter is from Bardford thats hardly north is it.. more like the midlands to me.Anyway it matters not as ALL the talent is down here.

[magnificentdave]

How can you distinguish between the northern and southern half of the UK when it's so small????

[scurlaruntings]

How can you distinguish between the northern and southern half of the UK when it's so small????Shut it you tit.Historically we hate northerners thats just how it is.There ugly inbred and talk funny.

[scurlaruntings]

Im from the Midlands, and Bradford is definatly North of here!Then you must be from the south bit of the midlands:yep

[scurlaruntings]

Not actually Im form the very north of the Midlands, 30 miles fromme and you are in the North, and Bradford is about 100 miles, go figure, anything north of Watford is North to a londoner!:yepYou have a point.All signs pointing north start at Watford.As far as im concerned the M1 means north.Anything above that is bloody north.So il retract my statement on Bradford you can have Witter.

[Charles187]

:yepYou have a point.All signs pointing north start at Watford.As far as im concerned the M1 means north.Anything above that is bloody north.So il retract my statement on Bradford you can have Witter.

Fuck that!!! He fights in london alot so you can have the boring cunt!! (im from the midlands so i suppose that means im a northerner - but i dont want to belong to any group of people that claim Junior Fucking Witter)

[scurlaruntings]

Fuck that!!! He fights in london alot so you can have the boring cunt!! (im from the midlands so i suppose that means im a northerner - but i dont want to belong to any group of people that claim Junior Fucking Witter)He`d whup your ass from Leicester to Bradford and all over the freaking midlands milkboy!:yep

[barneyrub]

Anyone know the genesis of this little ditty. I know it's sung to the tune of Christmas standby "Winter Wonderland" but has anyone stepped forward to claim responsibility for penning this ingeniously written song? Seriously, I think I'd rather listen to a bunch of Brits farting into a microphone than listen to that song again. If I were Ricky Hatton I'd respectfully ask my fans to write a better song!Its a tune thats used at every football match and adapted to each team. It is the same song the british fans sang at all Lewis`s fights too.

[ron u.k.]

your all southerners and cockney twats to me

[grayggr]

Other football chants I want for the alleged PBF fight

''If I had the wings of a pigeon, and I had the arse of a Crow, I'd fly over Pretty Boy's house tomorrow and shit on the bastard below''

''R (crowd reiterates R) I (crowd reiterates I) C (crowd reiterates C) K (you get the picture) YYYYYYYYYY (Long Y), Ricky cha cha cha (cha symbolises clapping), Ricky cha cha cha''

''Oh Manchester is wonderful, Oh Manchester is won-der-ful, it's full of tit, fanny and Hatton, Oh Manchester is wonderful!!!' (Sung to When the Saints go marching In)

''Hatton Hatton give us a wave, Hatton, give us a wave''

''The referee's a wanker, the referee's a wanker (everytime his splits Hatton and PBF up whilst Hatton is dismantling PBF ribs)''

Feel free to contribute anymore possible football-esque chants below.

Or just flame and hate :smooch

[grayggr]

Surely Bradford is in Yorkshire, and north of Manchester????? As well as Clinton Woods being north of Manchester in Sheffield. Amir Khan north of Manchester in Bolton by 15 miles.


:patsch:thumbsup

[GazOC]

Im from the Midlands, and Bradford is definatly North of here!

I'm from the North West and Bradford is north of me too....

[GazOC]

I was at Lewis-Holy I and the Brits were singing 'Who ate all the pies....you fat bastard" when Don King was introduced to the ring. The Americans around us looked totally bemused.

[Strike]

All? Only Ricky is from there.And that tit Scott Harrison doesnt count. Witter is from Bardford thats hardly north is it.. more like the midlands to me.Anyway it matters not as ALL the talent is down here.

Bradford is not the north?:lol: It is north of Manchester you muppet.

[GazOC]

'North' = Carlise?

[scurlaruntings]

Bradford is not the north?:lol: It is north of Manchester you muppet.Same meat diffrent gravy.It looks like midlands to me on map.Anyway like i said before anything up the M1 is north and i retracted my statement earlier so kiss my ass.

[stake501]

Anything north of watford is the north....let us not forget:

London is that GREAT WORLD CITY that subsidises the rest of britain....
Everything else is just a town :rofl

Remember when manchester tried to get the olympics ....ahhahah :hi:

[dwilson]

All? Only Ricky is from there.And that tit Scott Harrison doesnt count. Witter is from Bardford thats hardly north is it.. more like the midlands to me.Anyway it matters not as ALL the talent is down here.

On the map bradford is higher than manchester.

[dwilson]

Anything north of watford is the north....let us not forget:

London is that GREAT WORLD CITY that subsidises the rest of britain....
Everything else is just a town :rofl

Remember when manchester tried to get the olympics ....ahhahah :hi:


Remember when london got the olympics? hahahaha:happy

[David UK]

Scurvy! See thats how i know your another dippy northerner.Its only you inbred lot that get that disease.Surely its not still floating around manchester! I thought that disease went out with the dinosaurs!! Anyway bluecheese is a pile of cack.The song is shit and so are them tassles on Rickys shorts.

Hey Scurvy. You MUST have liked the Man City sombrero at least!! How cool was that I ask?:hey And I don't even support Man City!!

[David UK]

Southern fairy!

I think you'll find the correct term for an Englishman from the South is 'Shandy-Swilling Southern Jessie'!!!:lol:

[chambers80]

I actually love the song Blue Moon and the bastardized punk version actually works well for Ricky Hatton. I've got no problem with that but that fan chant is downright comical. As for the other poster criticizing my lack of knowledge as pertains to "brit culture", you've got me there. I'll be the first to admit that we across the pond are not exactly keen to "brit culture". At the same time, I'm sure there's a lot of stuff that goes on here in New York that would certainly throw you guys for a loop!


You probably know little about any other culture seeing as most Yanks never leave their state never mind the country!

Hattons fans could drown out the fans of any Yank boxer!

[David UK]

NORTHERN MONKEY!

Rugby isn't northern. It's in the middle.................(of NOWHERE!!!):lol:

[JediPimp007]

I think the songs are pretty funny!

and what thick bastard thought Bradford is in the Midlands!? pmsl, back to school for you this summer youth!

[David UK]

I was at Lewis-Holy I and the Brits were singing 'Who ate all the pies....you fat bastard" when Don King was introduced to the ring. The Americans around us looked totally bemused.

:lol: Yes, I heard that one on the telly. Class!! Don King thought they were CHEERING him!!! :lol:

I also remember the 'Tyson is a rapist' song being sung before Tyson v Bruno II in the USA

[David UK]

Anything north of watford is the north....let us not forget:

London is that GREAT WORLD CITY that subsidises the rest of britain....
Everything else is just a town :rofl

Remember when manchester tried to get the olympics ....ahhahah :hi:

London is a shitehole and a complete embarrassment for a capital city.It's filthy,very dangerous, horrendously overpriced,a nightmare to get around by public transport(don't even THINK of trying to drive there) and has a higher proportion of wankers than any other UK city/town

[dwilson]

London is a shitehole and a complete embarrassment for a capital city.It's fithy,very dangerous, horrendously overpriced,a nightmare to get around by public transport(don't even THINK of trying to drive there) and has a higher proportion of wankers than any other UK city/town


Did you get that from wikipedia?

[AllyT]

North of England / South of England, who cares, you are both living proof the Welsh f**k pigs.:rofl

[David UK]

Hattons fans could drown out the fans of any Yank boxer!

There's absolutely NO DOUBT about that whatsoever. The Barmy Army have been doing this to the Aussies(in Australia I might add) as well as to other countries they have visited for years.

This recent series in Australia the Barmy Army were promised that they wouldn't have things all there own way, and that the Aussies had got themselves organised vis various fan groups such as the Boony Army and the Fanatics. Needless to say, they still took a fearful vocal hammering as per usual!!

[Carlos Primera]

Scurvy! See thats how i know your another dippy northerner.Its only you inbred lot that get that disease.Surely its not still floating around manchester! I thought that disease went out with the dinosaurs!! Anyway bluecheese is a pile of cack.The song is shit and so are them tassles on Rickys shorts.

i always thought you were american scurvy, what with all your knowledge about basketball.

[China_hand_Joe]

I am not a fan of the "<insert name> wonderland" chant.

[scurlaruntings]

Hey Scurvy. You MUST have liked the Man City sombrero at least!! How cool was that I ask?:hey And I don't even support Man City!!It sucked.Micheal Gomez started it first and even changed his birth name to a Mexican name.Ricky is a fraud:yep

[djrock247]

You probably know little about any other culture seeing as most Yanks never leave their state never mind the country!

Hattons fans could drown out the fans of any Yank boxer!

Great first post newb. You'll fit in just fine here!

[Boxfan1]

I thought the official song of Manchester United was "Morning Train" by Sheena Easton.

[scurlaruntings]

He's a wannabe! Wannabe wannabe wannabe a dixieStupid knob.:roll:

[Boxfan1]

I wake up every mornin'
I stumble out of bed
Stretchin' and yawnin'
Another day ahead
It seems to last forever
And time goes slowly by
'Til babe and me's together
Then it starts to fly

'Cos the moment that he's with me
Time can take a flight
The moment that he's with me
Everything's alright
Night time is the right time
We make love
Then it's his and my time
We take off

My baby takes the morning train
He works from nine till five and then
He takes another home again
To find me waitin' for him

My baby takes the morning train
He works from nine till five and then
He takes another home again
To find me waitin' for him

He takes me to a movie
Or to a restaurant, to go
Slow dancing
Anything I want
Only when he's with me
I catch a light
Only when he gives me
Makes me feel alright

My baby takes the morning train
He works from nine till five and then
He takes another home again
To find me waitin' for him

All day I think of him
Dreamin' of him constantly
I'm crazy mad for him
And he's crazy mad for me
(Crazy mad for me)
When he steps off that train
I'm makin' a fool, a fight
Work all day to earn his pay
So we can play all night

My baby takes the morning train
He works from nine till five and then
He takes another home again
To find me waitin' for him

He's always on that morning train
(He works from nine till five and then)
He works so hard
(He takes another home again)
To find me waiting for him
(My baby takes the morning train)

[Triplesod]

Blue Moon is his ringwalk song. Its the club song of Man City, he was on trial with them as a kid and his Dad used to play for them as a pro.
He isn't talking about Blue Moon though, he is talking about WInter WOnderland.

To answer (though I'm sure others have already done so), it derives from a football (soccer) song. We take popular songs and change the words to something cheeky in support of our team or against the opposition, for example, Manchester United songs changed the words to Winter WOnderland as a message to the Chelsea Manager Jose Morinho, who had taken Chelsea to the top of the league the past two seasons, taking the title away from Man United, the song went as follows...

Mourinho are you listening? You better keep that trophy glistening cause we'll be back in May to take it away, walking in a Fergie wonderland! (Fergie is Alex Ferguson, the United manager).

There is a certain irnoy in choosing very snappy, happy and upbeat songs like christmas caroles and nursery rhymes to sing songs of hatred and pride.

Other songs you will hear at Manchester United games...

To the tune of Volare. This is in referance to a United Vs Arsenal FA cup game where Arse's midfielder Patrick Viera misplaced a pass which Uniteds Ryan Giggs intercepted and went on to score an amazing goal...
Viera wooooo, Viera Wooooo
He gave Giggsy the ball and Arsenal won fuck all (repeat ad infinitum).

To the tune of Oh my darling Clementine. City = Manchester City, Scousers are people from Liverpool, both hated enemys...
Build a bonfire,
Build a bonfire,
Put the Scousers on the top,
Put City in the middle,
And we'll burn the fucking lot

To the tune of "My Old Man" (y'know... "My old man said follow the van and don't dilly dally on the way...). Manchester City are Ricky's team.
My old man said be a City fan,
And I said bollocks you're a cunt,
I'd rather fuck a bucket with a big hole in
it,
Than be a City fan for just one minute,
With hammers and hatchets, stanley knives and
spanners,
We'll show the City bastards how to fight (How
to fight),
I'd rather fuck a bucket with a big hole in
it,
Than be a City fan...


To the tune of, well, dunno what it is called but you know the "Nick Nack Paddy Wack Give a Dog a Bone....
U N I T E D, United are the team for me, With a nick
nack paddy whack give the dog a bone,
Why don't city fuck off home?

Not forgetting the 12 days of Christmas song which has just been changed to the 12 days of Cantona (big United hero). Hehe, that's a great one!:-)

Well, anyway, I hope that gives you some idea. They are just a handful of world famous childrens type songs that have been changed for the benefit of support.

It is typical British humour, we love our irony, we love our support and atmosphere and we fucking love chanting and singing. Maybe America doesn't get it yet but the rest of teh world does. Every other country used to look at us funny when we would sing our sings, now they all do it. Go to any game in Europe and you will hear similar songs, in most cases the exact same songs, sung in English but with their team added. South America joined us, Africa joined us, Asia joined us, etc etc.

I'm proud of the atmosphere we can create!

P.s. If you are interested in other Manchester United chants, there is a great site here where you can read the lyrics and listen to them being sung live... [Only registered and activated users can see links] actually, those are chants from all British clubs, not just UTD).

[fightking12]

It's a Bitish thing. :bbb

[Triplesod]

we across the pond are not exactly keen to "brit culture".

I think many of your fellow Americans would have something to say about that mate, seeing as British culture (especially music and other media) sells abroad better than any other country. It sells especially well in America. Think of the different British invasions from the 60's to Heavey Metal to Punk to Madchester/Northern Soul/Acid House etc etc (please don't give me the history of Chicago and Detroit House music now, I do know;) ). I guess if you yourself aren't into that scene then you won't know much about it but many many Americans love our stuff.

[Triplesod]

All? Only Ricky is from there.And that tit Scott Harrison doesnt count. Witter is from Bardford thats hardly north is it.. more like the midlands to me.Anyway it matters not as ALL the talent is down here.
Khan is from Greater Manchester. Gomez is from Manchester, Mike Brody from Manchester, Matthew... There's fucking loads!

Prince Naseem was from Sheffield. And the only reason Bradford is more like the Midlands to you is because you are a typical Southern prick who couldn't care less about anything North of Watford! Check your maps, Bradford is about 20 miles north east of Manchester, next to Leeds.

I haven't even mentioned Scouse boxers here, Liverpool has had it's fair share of decent fighters.

London boxers... Well there's Bruno and 'Enery Cooper isn't there? They haven't really had a decent fighter for years, Eubank and Nigel Benn were the best you have had as far as I'm concerned. Joe Calzaghi was born in London but he got out as soon as he could the clever bastard!

[Johnboy2007]

Yeah.... I still find it really stupid sounding. I guess it's just one of those cultural things that doesn't translate.

Lol im english and ur right it is stupid and so are most of our footy (soccer) chants but who cares its just silly fun lol. And it does add to atmosphere. Suppose its just a british thing.:happy

[Johnboy2007]

brits have more passion than the yanks.


Agreed , no offence americans maybe you just dont have the same sense of history i dunno but you dont seem to have as much passion about your sports. Wait for the backlash now lol:scaredas:

[Triplesod]

Same meat diffrent gravy.It looks like midlands to me on map.Anyway like i said before anything up the M1 is north and i retracted my statement earlier so kiss my ass.


You're a fucking cockney! Any map you have has "here be dragons" and shaded areas everywhere outside Greater London!

If, somehow you managed to get hold of a map from outside your sauded little griefhole and you still say it looks like the Midlands then you are either very thick or you are classing Scotland as England.

Either way, you're very thick!:smooch

[Johnboy2007]

You're a fucking cockney! Any map you have has "here be dragons" and shaded areas everywhere outside Greater London!

If, somehow you managed to get hold of a map from outside your sauded little griefhole and you still say it looks like the Midlands then you are either very thick or you are classing Scotland as England.

Either way, you're very thick!:smooch


Hahaha southerners youve gotta love them. ( to laff at)

[David UK]

Plastic Cockneys are the very worst sort of all. There's fucking thousands round this way. Give me a real Cockney anytime.The reality is there are very few real cockneys around these days

[Boxfan1]

Triplesod, I love those songs!!!

[Bigcat]

Its just a fucking football song........

It hasn't even got a relevence to anything boxing.........

[Johnboy2007]

Its just a fucking football song........

It hasn't even got a relevence to anything boxing.........

Whats your point. lol cant believe all this analisation and discussion over a song lol some pissed up fans started chanting and were all discussing y :lol:

[djrock247]

Whats your point. lol cant believe all this analisation and discussion over a song lol some pissed up fans started chanting and were all discussing y :lol:

Seriously, I had no idea this thread would carry on like this. I meant no offense to any Brits nor did I aim to create a civil war over North/South territories. My "opinion" (just like assholes, we all have one) is that it's a bit silly and lazy to take an existing Christmas song and change some words.

[Boro chris]

You obviously know fuck all about the brit culture..

Watch a premiership football match and hear some of the songs, they stem from there.

Why should he know anything about "Brit" culture?:huh

[MrSmall]

Anything north of Watford isn't worth contemplating.

[David UK]

Triplesod, I love those songs!!!

If you like those, have a 'butchers' at this lot!!

Don't forget to click on Australia Team and Players and England Team and Players as well

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

[ThePlugInBabies]

Khan is from Greater Manchester. Gomez is from Manchester, Mike Brody from Manchester, Matthew... There's fucking loads!

Prince Naseem was from Sheffield. And the only reason Bradford is more like the Midlands to you is because you are a typical Southern prick who couldn't care less about anything North of Watford! Check your maps, Bradford is about 20 miles north east of Manchester, next to Leeds.

I haven't even mentioned Scouse boxers here, Liverpool has had it's fair share of decent fighters.

London boxers... Well there's Bruno and 'Enery Cooper isn't there? They haven't really had a decent fighter for years, Eubank and Nigel Benn were the best you have had as far as I'm concerned. Joe Calzaghi was born in London but he got out as soon as he could the clever bastard!

who was that bloke from east london again? you know, the most recent undisputed heavyweight champ? lennox lewis! yeah that's him, he weren't bad.
:deal

[Chief_Second]

Anyone know the genesis of this little ditty. I know it's sung to the tune of Christmas standby "Winter Wonderland" but has anyone stepped forward to claim responsibility for penning this ingeniously written song? Seriously, I think I'd rather listen to a bunch of Brits farting into a microphone than listen to that song again. If I were Ricky Hatton I'd respectfully ask my fans to write a better song!

this ones for you matey

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

[sandwichsurgeon]

this ones for you matey

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

Who art thou
[Only registered and activated users can see links]

[Johnboy2007]

Seriously, I had no idea this thread would carry on like this. I meant no offense to any Brits nor did I aim to create a civil war over North/South territories. My "opinion" (just like assholes, we all have one) is that it's a bit silly and lazy to take an existing Christmas song and change some words.


Lol no offence taken what so ever and its not ur fault it dont take much for a war to start north vs south lol.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Southern fairy!


Is he Southern? I thought he was a Yank. He's certainly boring enough to be one.

[scurlaruntings]

Plastic Cockneys are the very worst sort of all. There's fucking thousands round this way. Give me a real Cockney anytime.The reality is there are very few real cockneys around these daysAnd you`d know that wouldnt you.Your from bloody Essex!

[My dinner with Conteh]

He's a wannabe! Wannabe wannabe wannabe a dixie


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[My dinner with Conteh]

P.s. If you are interested in other Manchester United chants, there is a great site here where you can read the lyrics and listen to them being sung live... [Only registered and activated users can see links] actually, those are chants from all British clubs, not just UTD).



You missed one out:

Who's that lying on the runway
who's that dying in the snow
it's Matt Busby and his boys
making all the fucking noise
'cause they can't get the aeroplane to go.

:hi:

[Triplesod]

Its just a fucking football song........

It hasn't even got a relevence to anything boxing.........

Well of course it does! The song has been changed just so it is relevant not only to boxing in general but to that fight and that particular boxer!

You would be entirely right if the words hadn't been changed, of course you would but the point is, the song has been changed so it is now about Ricky.

[My dinner with Conteh]

The song is quite shit, mind.

[Triplesod]

Triplesod, I love those songs!!!

Glad you like them mate! Have you heard them before?

Are you British or American or from elsewhere? If you haven't heard them sung before you can go to the site I mentioned and you can hear the audience singing them.

[Triplesod]

Why should he know anything about "Brit" culture?:huh

Because it is important to know and understand cultures from outside your own country. It is wrong to be so insular, especially when you are the most powerful country in the world!

Anyway, to a large extent American culture = British culture due to the majority of Americans having British and Irish ancestry (though that has been changing a lot over the last 100 years due to immigration from other non European countries). And then, we have adopted much of the American culture.

[Triplesod]

who was that bloke from east london again? you know, the most recent undisputed heavyweight champ? lennox lewis! yeah that's him, he weren't bad.
:deal

Lennox? Lewis?

Doesn't ring any bells.

Ohhh aye! I know who you mean! That Canadian, yeah?;)

[Triplesod]

Lol no offence taken what so ever and its not ur fault it dont take much for a war to start north vs south lol.

Hehe. I think we could easily have had yet another civil war in Britain if us Northerners weren't so lazy!

We would take London in a weekend and give it to the Scots to occupy, let the Irish have Brighton.

:tong

[Triplesod]

You missed one out:

Who's that lying on the runway
who's that dying in the snow
it's Matt Busby and his boys
making all the fucking noise
'cause they can't get the aeroplane to go.

:hi:

Yeah, nice one you sad cunt!

What the fuck is the point in that? Is the death of a group of kids and young men really funny? Are Hillsborough chants funny too? Or the 39 Italians the Liverpool fans murdered in Heysel?

I'm a Man United supporter, I hate Liverpool but you will never, ever catch me singing anything about Hillsborough or Heysel!

Actually, my mate has just made a good point. Do you also laugh and sing songs about Coralles' death?

You're a sad bastard mate and I am not one to get pissed off on a message forum but I'm telling you, if you sung that round our way you would get put on your arse!

[My dinner with Conteh]

Yeah, nice one you sad cunt!

What the fuck is the point in that? Is the death of a group of kids and young men really funny? Are Hillsborough chants funny too? Or the 39 Italians the Liverpool fans murdered in Heysel?

I'm a Man United supporter, I hate Liverpool but you will never, ever catch me singing anything about Hillsborough or Heysel!

Actually, my mate has just made a good point. Do you also laugh and sing songs about Coralles' death?

You're a sad bastard mate and I am not one to get pissed off on a message forum but I'm telling you, if you sung that round our way you would get put on your arse!



So, when United fans sang Hillsborough songs you put them on their arse too?

[My dinner with Conteh]

Actually, my mate has just made a good point. Do you also laugh and sing songs about Coralles' death?


When did I laugh at the Munich air crash? Oh, and I didn't hate Corrales so I wouldn't sing anything nasty about him. I didn't like him too much either (not overly keen on people who break pregnant women's jaws myself).

[ThePlugInBabies]

Lennox? Lewis?

Doesn't ring any bells.

Ohhh aye! I know who you mean! That Canadian, yeah?;)

:dead oh please don't tell me you're being serious.

[Triplesod]

So, when United fans sang Hillsborough songs you put them on their arse too?
For a start, I never said I would put you on your arse for singing it, I wouldn't I'm not a violent person. I said you would be. Many would happily give you a slap for singing that shit round here.

Secondly, no, I never hit anyone over something football related but I will gurentee I will speak up when I hear any of that shite, as I have in the past.

The point I am making, and maybe I was a little over the top in the way I made it (I hope you understand why) is that that shit just isn't funny, it is abhorrent. I made the comparison with Diego, no one in their right mind would use his death to have a go at his fan base, no one would ever think it would be funny to sing gleeful songs about his death.

Was there 96 people killed at HIllsborough? Liverpool fans murdered 39 Italian supporters at Heysel and it just isn't funny is it? Yes, we do have some quadropedel trogladytes in our support who happily sing "Murderers, murderers" and "justice for the 39" at the Liverpool support but they are in the minority and they are looked down upon by the vast majority of our support for being the obnoxious, arrogant pillocks they really are.

What team do you support mate? Not that I am thinking of making any jokes about any of your supporters who have been kicked to death by supporters of the rival teams fans;), just purely out of interest.


EDIT: Look mate, I will give you th ebenefit of the doubt that you don't understand how offensive that Munich song is and just presume rightly or wrongly that you aren't a football supporter, I hope you now understand that this really is a sick song. An apology will make things all OK. After all, anyone with Bonzo as an avatar can't be all bad!

[Triplesod]

:dead oh please don't tell me you're being serious.
I would have thought the winky smiley face I put at the end of my sentance would give you a clue to wheter or not I was being serious.:roll:

[sandwichsurgeon]

its all good come to mtl and we sing some hockey chant juste watch some bute fights

Hockey players throw better punches than Bute:D

[AllyT]

Seriously, I had no idea this thread would carry on like this. I meant no offense to any Brits nor did I aim to create a civil war over North/South territories. My "opinion" (just like assholes, we all have one) is that it's a bit silly and lazy to take an existing Christmas song and change some words.

Seriously, you have probably offended no one. It is fairly traditional in the British Isles to unmercifully denigrate your friends and neighbours, to fail to do so would, in many quarters, be considered quite rude.

To understand the football song you need to see it as more of a mantra than a song. American sports fans are basically an audience watching their hero’s perform as gladiators. British fans are more like minor participants in the battle, serfs to knights rather than audience to performers. This requires a means to bond thousands of people quickly and efficiently. Simple chants that are easy to learn and to sing ease this process. If a song is easy to learn and remember it has more chance of being picked up by the crowd. These songs are not generally written down or rehearsed but rather capture the imagination of the crowd and burst into life to then be copied by all. The repetition is part of a hypnotic ritual binding the fans as one. Sportsmen and teams who carry such support will all tell you that it can help them when the going gets tough.

There is also an element of psychological warfare; if you are not part of the ‘tribe’ it is meant to get to you. Scotland football fans sing ‘Do a dear’ over and over. If you are not part of the crowd this is really annoying but in the body of the Kirk it is irresistible. All because, some years ago Scotland played Austria and some wag pointed out that the Austrians really hate The Sound of Music’. As a consequence ‘Do a dear’ rang out for the whole game and has been sung at every game since.

It is not about high art, it is about bonding your crowd inspiring your guy and unsettling the opposition.

[My dinner with Conteh]

For a start, I never said I would put you on your arse for singing it, I wouldn't I'm not a violent person. I said you would be. Many would happily give you a slap for singing that shit round here.

Secondly, no, I never hit anyone over something football related but I will gurentee I will speak up when I hear any of that shite, as I have in the past.

The point I am making, and maybe I was a little over the top in the way I made it (I hope you understand why) is that that shit just isn't funny, it is abhorrent. I made the comparison with Diego, no one in their right mind would use his death to have a go at his fan base, no one would ever think it would be funny to sing gleeful songs about his death.

Was there 96 people killed at HIllsborough? Liverpool fans murdered 39 Italian supporters at Heysel and it just isn't funny is it? Yes, we do have some quadropedel trogladytes in our support who happily sing "Murderers, murderers" and "justice for the 39" at the Liverpool support but they are in the minority and they are looked down upon by the vast majority of our support for being the obnoxious, arrogant pillocks they really are.

What team do you support mate? Not that I am thinking of making any jokes about any of your supporters who have been kicked to death by supporters of the rival teams fans;), just purely out of interest.


EDIT: Look mate, I will give you th ebenefit of the doubt that you don't understand how offensive that Munich song is and just presume rightly or wrongly that you aren't a football supporter, I hope you now understand that this really is a sick song. An apology will make things all OK. After all, anyone with Bonzo as an avatar can't be all bad!



Fair enough squire, although you're very wrong about the 'not a football supporter'. Actually, I'm an Evertonian, so maybe you're right. ;)
To be honest I just couldn't resist the joke following on from your chants post, it's a bit sick I know and I don't sing it (although admittedly I probably did some time in the late 80s when I was a wee lad and before I understood it). Judging by your moniker you've probably laughed at a few sick jokes yourself (providing they're about paedophiles or Bad Aids).

[Triplesod]

Seriously, you have probably offended no one. It is fairly traditional in the British Isles to unmercifully denigrate your friends and neighbours, to fail to do so would, in many quarters, be considered quite rude.


Is it fuck, you Noseybonk faced, frilly nonce!

:smooch

[sandwichsurgeon]

Is it fuck, you Noseybonk faced, frilly nonce!

:smooch

Racist

[Triplesod]

Judging by your moniker you've probably laughed at a few sick jokes yourself (providing they're about paedophiles or Bad Aids).

No, you're wrong and you're a grotesquely, ugly freak!!

Haha! No, you're spot on and maybe I am a hypocrite for getting all offended by Munich stuff but laughing along to the above Morris stuff (including the "Grotesquely, ugly freak" bit). I dunno, We are a very tribel people anyway, aren't we and when we get put in such obvious and segregated tribes as football supporters we can all be very touchy I suppose. I really am anti Munich, Hilssborough and Heysel chants though.

I dunno, Dr Shipman was my doctor, he killed many many people I knew, some I was very close to and I can joke about him but the joke IS about him! When I hear Liverpool supporters singing "One Harold Shipman", "Harold Shipman killed yer Nan", "Harold Shipman is a Scouser, he kills Mancs" etc etc then I can get extremely angry about that because the joke is no longer about that evil bastard but now about his victims and their families.

Incidentally, did you see the Youtube video of Rooney's brother (is he called Graham?) singing Shipman songs? Is he still on Evertons books? I remember hearing, around the time that Wayne scored that great goal for you against the Arse, that Graham was showing more promise than Wayne did at his age. Probably bullshit but it is interesting to note there has been no talk of him of late.

Anyway, thanks for your message mate, I appreciate it and all is forgiven and forgotten, until we take another of your decent players off you;). Then start feeling guilty so we give you another Phil Nev type player, will Keiron Richardson do?:D

[Triplesod]

Racist

Haha. I can only presume you are joking with me here (Bah! It's so hard to tell on message forums when people don't use smileys!!).

If not, please explain to me.

If you really do think I am being racist then just believe me, I'm not in any way shape or form but I would appreciate you telling me why you think that, so I can explain myself and show you I'm not.

Nah.. you have to be joking... Right?:huh

[My dinner with Conteh]

Nice one Clarkycat, not sure about the even uglier Rooney, think he's been fucked off, he obviously wasn't as good. You always here that "his brother's meant to be better" bollocks. Funny, we were only taking about Richardson on Saturday wondering why United signed him and is he the worst to ever play for England (yes, he's as bad as Geoff Thomas any day).

[Triplesod]

Funny, we were only taking about Richardson on Saturday wondering why United signed him and is he the worst to ever play for England (yes, he's as bad as Geoff Thomas any day).

In my time of following football I would say definitely or at least in the top (worst) five.

Geoff Thomas is actually my bezzie mates cousin and he is apparently still haunted by his penelty miss:patsch.

He is actually a really nice guy though, he has been suffering cancer the last couple of years. I'm not sure if it is now in remission though. I dunno if you remember but he set up a charity match at Old Trafford last year for a cancer charity. If I remember correctly, it was a replay of the 1990 FA cup final where he played with Palace against us (I was at Wembley for that, we fucking drew so the dicks at PFA made them do a re-match in them days, obviously we couldn't go back down for that, game. And we won:? ).

[My dinner with Conteh]

In my time of following football I would say definitely or at least in the top (worst) five.

Geoff Thomas is actually my bezzie mates cousin and he is apparently still haunted by his penelty miss:patsch



Shit, forgot he'd been suffering. Hope he's doing ok. :-(

ps. Not sure which 'penno' you mean mate. Or is it that 'chip' he did at Wembley you're referring to?

[AllyT]

Is it fuck, you Noseybonk faced, frilly nonce!

:smooch

:good

[Triplesod]

Shit, forgot he'd been suffering. Hope he's doing ok. :-(

ps. Not sure which 'penno' you mean mate. Or is it that 'chip' he did at Wembley you're referring to?
Shit! Sorry, dunno why I said pen.

Yeah, I mean the France match. I don't actually think he was that bad, I think he is mainly remembered for that mistake, which is unfair really.

Blackburn were after him during their Chelsea-esque money days. They bought Shearer for 3.3m (it was 3.3 wasn't it?) and I they offered Palace 3mill for Geoff. That's not to bad for someone who most people think is wank.

Anyway, going faaaar off topic now. What were we talking about now? Tyson biting peoples ears off or something....

[Strike]

Fo Liverpool fans murdered 39 Italian supporters at Heysel and it just isn't funny is it?

No they didn't.

How is it murder, when two groups of people fight, one group runs away and a wall collapses killing people?
That is not murder. Murder is stabbing someone with the aim to kill them and then succeeding. Murder is stamping on a grounded man repeatedly until he is dead.

Juve fans were 50% culpable. They threw rocks, they were on the terraces with masks on and one with a started pistol, they fought just like the Liverpool fans. When they bolted, the shit stadium came into play and a wall crumbled. No LFC fan demolished the wall, broke the foundations etc etc.

Also, Conteh is an Everton fan, so if you think he will give a shit about you referring to Heysel etc, you are way off.

[Triplesod]

No they didn't.

How is it murder, when two groups of people fight, one group runs away and a wall collapses killing people?
That is not murder. Murder is stabbing someone with the aim to kill them and then succeeding. Murder is stamping on a grounded man repeatedly until he is dead.

Juve fans were 50% culpable. They threw rocks, they were on the terraces with masks on and one with a started pistol, they fought just like the Liverpool fans. When they bolted, the shit stadium came into play and a wall crumbled. No LFC fan demolished the wall, broke the foundations etc etc.

Also, Conteh is an Everton fan, so if you think he will give a shit about you referring to Heysel etc, you are way off.

That's bollocks mate, absolute bollocks and I am sick to death of hearing Scousers (don't mean you) give excuse after excuse about it. I have 2 people in my family who were there, close up, I know exactly what went on.

So, I will not argue this anymore because it is completely counter productive. Everyone knows what happened there.

Yes, Conteh is an Everton fan, I read peoples posts when they address them to me you see but obviously you didn't. I don't give a donkeys dick what colour of Scouse Conteh is, the point is I am bothered about Heysel chants and Hillsborough chants and Munich chants and I think most decent football supporters are. Anyway, if you read Conteh's post back you will see that he doesn't like those chants anyway.


Annnyway, this is stupid now. I have no reason to kick off with you or anyone, you can believe what you want but this isn't the place to discuss it, feel free to email me if you really want to but I would prefer to stay away from these arguments now.

I typed that respectfully, even if it doesn't really show.

Cheers

[Johnboy2007]

Hehe. I think we could easily have had yet another civil war in Britain if us Northerners weren't so lazy!

We would take London in a weekend and give it to the Scots to occupy, let the Irish have Brighton.

:tong

That made me laff. The welsh can stay out the way in wales lol (wait for the welsh to start on here now lol):bbb