Mormeck calls out Adamek

[Fitir]

According to the newspaper lequipe (caution : I haven't read the article yet but the guy who reported the news is usually serious) Mormeck changed his plans after Oquendo. He has always looked for the best available opponent and he wants to fight Adamek. Your opinion ?

[bodhi]

Mormeck should retire. He won´t do shit at hw and is too big for cw these days. He just will get himself some brain damage.

[Fitir]

Why would he retire ? He is not old for a HW and he was far from ridiculous in his last fights at CW. He looked good in the 1st rounds and he KDed the current WBA HW champ before being stopped. His first fights at HW are also not so bad. As a pressure fighter he didn't shine against Oquendo who has a damned awkward style made of clinches. He is not the 1st guy to struggle against this guy anyway. At least he didn't look shot and he even proved he has improved his stamina.
He wouldn't be so undersized against Adamek who is also a former LHW/CW and their styles could give several good rounds imo.

[Fitir]

The information is confirmed on Orange. Mormeck said a precontract had already be signed. The fight could take place in the US.
"C'est un tueur, il fait peur à tout le monde. C'est dingue comme ça me motive. J'en salive d'avance. C'est du très gros, je vais prendre un risque énorme et ça me fait plaisir."
"He's a killer, everyone is scared about him. I am incredibly motivated. I am looking forward to this. It's something huge, I will take an enormous risk but I like that."

[Alcaldemb]

Adamek destroys him. If he struggled with Oquendo, he would be brutalized by Tomasz.

[IntentionalButt]

Awkward or no, I can't see Adamek struggling a great deal with Oquendo (as it sounds like JMM did from the RBR and other reports).

[bodhi]

It´s not only about size that he won´t be successful at hw. His style combined with his size, or lack thereoff, will spell trouble for him. He doesn´t have the defence and/or punch to makeup for this disadvantage. And he is slipping. He will get himself hurt/braindamaged.

[NSFW]

Mormeck will probably not contend for a world title in my opinion and Adamek has bigger fights on the horizon.

[Fitir]

This fight will take place. As a promoter Mormeck negotiates directly and from what he said in the post fight interview he had already an agreement for his next fight.
It will be a way for Adamek to make a comparison with Haye against the same opponent. Oquendo was ranked and Mormeck is a former unified/Ring champ in the inferior div : he will enter the top 10 of the ABC organizations. Imo Adamek vs Mormeck would be a decent eliminator.

Before Bell 1 guys said "Mormeck destroyed Brown, he defeated convincingly Braithwaite. Bell struggled with Brown. Walk in the park for Mormeck."
At this time considering the styles and Mormeck's preparation I had posted I wasn't so sure about it.
Now "Mormeck struggled with Oquendo , Adamek beat Arreola. Mormeck is shot. Easy purse for Adamek, he destroys Mormeck"
Don't be so sure. I noticed several points in their games/last fights that make me think it will give a far better fight than people expect.

[NBT]

If that fight is made, which would surprise me, because I don't see what's in it for Adamek, Mormeck loses of course. He is sliding for years now and this recent step up to HW, we have seen it so many times, is just an attempt to get a few more paydays in the twilight of his career.

I haven't seen the Oquendo fight but by all accounts Mormeck lost and let's face it, Oquendo is not very good, if you can't beat him convincingly you have no business fighting the better HW contenders. It wouldn't bother me if the fight gets made, because Adamek isn't exactly the guy who would inflict permanent damage and given their styles, it could be entertaining, but I just don't see the point.

[Antsu]

I haven't seen the Oquendo fight but by all accounts Mormeck lost and let's face it, Oquendo is not very good, if you can't beat him convincingly you have no business fighting the better HW contenders. It wouldn't bother me if the fight gets made, because Adamek isn't exactly the guy who would inflict permanent damage and given their styles, it could be entertaining, but I just don't see the point.

Who has ever beaten Oquendo convincinly. Guy runs away, jabs and then clinches. Ugly style what have costed him several close fights. (Then again they might not have been close fights at all without his style.)


Its very Hard to look impressive against him.

[Ivo]

I think that Mormeck lost to Oquendo. Though, I want Mormeck to continue fighting. It is good to have French fighters involved in top fights because it seems to me that boxing have been losing popularity in France.

[NBT]

Who has ever beaten Oquendo convincinly. Guy runs away, jabs and then clinches. Ugly style what have costed him several close fights. (Then again they might not have been close fights at all without his style.)

Its very Hard to look impressive against him.
That has a lot to do with his opponents. His disputable losses in recent years were only against guys that were very much past it like ancient Holyfield, Toney and now Mormeck. These guys just wouldn't beat anyone decent convincingly these days so that's not saying much.

[Escopeta]

do you think Mormeck would have looked any better against Oquendo some years ago?
He had his problems with Gurov for example and won because of Gurovs glass jaw. Mormeck was in some decent wars but he was protected by the timekeeper in Bell II and quitted in the fight with Haye. I never liked him much and Adamek only wastes his time if he´ll fight him.

[Axe]

This would be a good fight.

Mormeck was unified CW champ as well, and by beating him Adamek could very well secure the Haye fight for the WBA crown.

[Brickhaus]

If this was true, I suspect the Polish media would be all over this by now, but they've been silent. Mormeck is known to talk too much. I suspect he's just doing that here. And he'd have little chance at beating Adamek at this stage in his career anyway.

[Fitir]

Mormeck is known to talk too much ? You have examples ? Not many Mormeck interviews and every fight/unification he had talked about happened in the end. The only exception is Tiozzo but the guy who had really talked about the fight was Tiozzo who often changes his mind (he dropped titles, canceled a signed fight with Garay etc.)

[drowller]

I think Mormeck fight isnt that bad idea at all. Adamek is still very fresh meat in HW and he needs some more fights even against bums just to acustome little bit more before he decides to call out Klit. This fight would be sold well in Poland and one easier foe after such a frequency of fights isnt any huge disgrace refering to Adamek. It's not only his body must he addapt to, but also a new style employed by his new coaches.

[Alcaldemb]

If Adamek just wants an easier welcome home fight in New Jersey, then Mormeck is a great fit. Adamek will beat him, and beat him badly. Against a common opponent, Bell, Mormeck lost and struggled in a controversial win, whereas Adamek easily dispatched of the Jamaican slugger. Mormeck barely beat Oquendo, whereas Adamek clearly beat Arreola, who employs a similar pressure style to Mormeck but is much larger and harder hitting. Sorry Mormeck fans, but Adamek dismantles JMM.

[Bodysnatcher]

You'd think Adamek would be looking for a fight that would continue his appearances on HBO. I don't think HBO says ok to Mormeck.

Then again, he can fill the Prudential centre and make good money fighting Bobby Gunn, so perhaps he'll take the easy money route to keep himself ticking over.

[Alcaldemb]

You'd think Adamek would be looking for a fight that would continue his appearances on HBO. I don't think HBO says ok to Mormeck.

Then again, he can fill the Prudential centre and make good money fighting Bobby Gunn, so perhaps he'll take the easy money route to keep himself ticking over.

HBO might show the fight just to build up Adamek's marketability. I mean HBO did show Arreola vs Minto.

[jdroy1986]

This would be a pretty good fight imo.

[MrFoFody]

Adamek would have stopped Mormeck @ cruiser weight. He will stop him @ heavyweight as well.

[NBT]

HBO might show the fight just to build up Adamek's marketability. I mean HBO did show Arreola vs Minto.
But Arreola is(was?) an HBO fighter and an HBO hype job from the start, Adamek is not. He has only a few HBO apperances. I don't think they are interested in a fight with Mormeck. I don't see Adamek as an HBO fighter.

[Wiesiek]

But Arreola is(was?) an HBO fighter and an HBO hype job from the start, Adamek is not. He has only a few HBO apperances. I don't think they are interested in a fight with Mormeck. I don't see Adamek as an HBO fighter.

They could put it in some doubleheader, something like recently Bute miranda-before Pavlik-Martinez.

[Alcaldemb]

But Arreola is(was?) an HBO fighter and an HBO hype job from the start, Adamek is not. He has only a few HBO apperances. I don't think they are interested in a fight with Mormeck. I don't see Adamek as an HBO fighter.

HBO is committed to showing Adamek's next fight. They know he can draw, and they know he can win, and is pretty fun to watch.

[Stinky gloves]

Mormeck will probably not contend for a world title in my opinion and Adamek has bigger fights on the horizon.

but the bigger fish swim on the wide open water while Adamek barely took off the marine
... the horizon aint close yet

[boxingbites]

I watched Mormech vs Oquendo and in my opinion it was a hometown decision. Mormeck was so one dimensional and barely landing anything while Oquendo on the outside was much the busier.

Adamek would deal with him no problem in my opinion.

[Fitir]

Busy ? Oquendo didn't land anything on the outside. His work was so poor that he was never able to keep his opponent at bay. Mormeck had a tight guard and the jabs were blocked.
On the inside Mormeck connected a few times with hooks before the clinches, Oquendo connected with a few uppercuts and that's all. Both were intact in the end. Oquendo had promised a war and he feel robbed what a joke... Who initiated the clinches ? Oquendo wasn't robbed. The guy who paid to see that was robbed imo.
Of course it's close but if you give the close rounds (the rounds with no significant punches...) to the agressor Oquendo could even feel happy with this close decision.
Adamek would be heavily favored to win but at least it would be a fight...

[Alcaldemb]

Busy ? Oquendo didn't land anything on the outside. His work was so poor that he was never able to keep his opponent at bay. Mormeck had a tight guard and the jabs were blocked.
On the inside Mormeck connected a few times with hooks before the clinches, Oquendo connected with a few uppercuts and that's all. Both were intact in the end. Oquendo had promised a war and he feel robbed what a joke... Who initiated the clinches ? Oquendo wasn't robbed. The guy who paid to see that was robbed imo.
Of course it's close but if you give the close rounds (the rounds with no significant punches...) to the agressor Oquendo could even feel happy with this close decision.
Adamek would be heavily favored to win but at least it would be a fight...

It would a fight in that there would be an organized boxing match, however the fight wouldn't be close.

[Bajingo]

Sorry, but right now Adamek would beat Mormeck easily and I can't see there being any interest in this.

[Fitir]

Adamek is taller, younger, faster etc. but so was Haye. People forget that the current wba champ was dominated in the 1st rounds and that he was even KDed in the 4th. Mormeck is the last opponent who gave him trouble in fact. Since Mormeck had no stamina and Haye has one punch KO power the result was logical but it was not "easy" for Haye.
It wouldn't be much easier for Adamek. Adamek is more solid but he has not the same one punch KO power even if he can punch. It seems Mormeck has worked on his stamina, it was the only good point of this Oquendo fight.
I think it could end with a stoppage for Adamek but it won't be a walk in the park. If Adamek can dominate Mormeck without any problem it will be another solid name/W on his record, a good fight to stay active before a title shot.

[NBT]

The fight against Haye was 2007. Mormeck was already on the slide back then. Now he is 37 and he is the kind of fighter, who doesn't age well. I agree that Adamek isn't all that he is made out to be but Mormeck is just faded too much to be a threat nowadays.

[lzolnier]

Waste of time for Adamek. Right now Adamek has bigger fish to fry (Povetkin, Haye, Chambers, Klit-bros) and if none of them are available :hey he should fight someone in the top ten ranking, not some HW freshie on an obvious decline. Adamek is not young, he should not waste his time with warm ups, especially ones who don't provide him with any learning opportunities as a HW.

[Fitir]

OK I understand the reactions now. I read some discussions about Arreola on the general forum and some US sites...I hadn't realized how huge the HBO hype about Arreola had been !

[lzolnier]

OK I understand the reactions now. I read some discussions about Arreola on the general forum and some US sites...I hadn't realized how huge the HBO hype about Arreola had been !


He was ranked in the top 5 by most people, had only a single loss to Vitali and was seen as one of the strongest punchers in the division. I for one never shared HBO's optimism about him being the future of this divison.However, Adamek managed to beat him in just his 3rd HW fight and thats pretty impressive, imo much more so than Haye's meager win over Valuev or ancient Ruiz, basically the division's senior circuit. In a perfect world, one would think that Mormeck hasn't yet earned a shot at a top HW contender like Adamek but there's more than merit when it comes to matchmaking so I understand.

[Fitir]

The discussion is biased cause in a "perfect world" Arreola would have never entered the top 5. What did he do to obtain such a ranking ?!? In terms of boxing skills he probably never entered the top 20... You can't see this guy was nothing but a hype organized by a US TV ? They are fed up with the K brothers + they have looked for a Tyson for 10 years (I am sure some guys still think he can make a come back !). Result : every guy with a punch and a decent record is turned into some boxing god. Arreola has nothing but his courage and some power (no skills and no defining fight : he didn't beat anybody in the top 20)
Senor circuit, you lack respect for guys who at least have some defining fights. The boss of the division is 38 and he destroyed Arreola ! Adamek completed the job but it was more difficult. Good victory for a 3rd HW fight as you wrote but this victory is vastly overrated. It reminds me some discussions I had with a Kessler's fan I don't remember the name.

[popejking]

The discussion is biased cause in a "perfect world" Arreola would have never entered the top 5. What did he do to obtain such a ranking ?!? In terms of boxing skills he probably never entered the top 20... You can't see this guy was nothing but a hype organized by a US TV ? They are fed up with the K brothers + they have looked for a Tyson for 10 years (I am sure some guys still think he can make a come back !). Result : every guy with a punch and a decent record is turned into some boxing god. Arreola has nothing but his courage and some power (no skills and no defining fight : he didn't beat anybody in the top 20)
Senor circuit, you lack respect for guys who at least have some defining fights. The boss of the division is 38 and he destroyed Arreola ! Adamek completed the job but it was more difficult. Good victory for a 3rd HW fight as you wrote but this victory is vastly overrated. It reminds me some discussions I had with a Kessler's fan I don't remember the name.

I agree that Arreola is nothing special. I have always thought about him as about too fat for boxing. However he is endurant, have some power and makes the pressure. It was the test for Adamek and he passed it very good. I dont think that Adamek's victory over Arreola is overrated. It shows that Adamek belongs to HW division and can only fight better in his future fights. How good he may be? I dont know, when he faces one of the champions we will know his true value.

[Fitir]

Not overrated ? It seems people think Mormeck has to "earn a shot" as if Adamek had already unified the HW div ! Calm down guys : it was a win over Arreola who is far to be some modern Ali...
If Adamek beats Mormeck it's sure it will be less important for his immediate exposure in the US than the Arreola win. But in terms of general recognition Mormeck will remain a far better name on his record at the end of his career. And if he wants to fight Haye it's also good to beat Mormeck convincingly.

[rumour24tiger]

throughout boxing history, fighters in their prime have faced past it names. mormeck does have a reputation and was a good world champion. adamek was a cruiserweight so it's not a terrible fight.

it would be a reasonable fight for adamek to stay busy. it won't get HBO but it will draw big in the plaes that adamek is popular in, and if polsat are ok with it, then it might make good money from polish TV.

adamek fights 3 or 4 times a year. only one of those fights will probably be an HBO date. mormeck seems a desperate and willing oppponent, and only a few years ago he was a champ.

[boxexpert]

smells like an interesting fight. two former cruiser WC will certainly deliver an entertaining bout

[Fitir]

Mormeck is now ranked by the WBA (#12) and the IBF (#10). According to him the conditions of the Adamek fight are still in negotiation.