Oscar de la Hoya vs Cotto.

[Shake]

In my opinion, Oscar, who has faced a lot of challenges in his life, would get a lot more respect fighting Cotto than Hatton, who is -- weight and reach taken into consideration -- an easy match style-wise for him.

The question is -- who wins?

[boxbox]

i still think ODLH takes this...you dont need speed to handle cotto, you need a strong chin and heart (oscar already have the offensive tools needed)...i think Oscar can handle Cotto's bodyshots more than he can BHOPS'...

[RAMPAGE0017]

Even a currently faded DLH would beat Cotto. DLH has every possible advantage over Cotto.... speed, power, chin, combinations, ring generalship.. Cotto's wouldn't be able to hold up to the powerful, rapid-fire combinations of Oscar for very long.

Yet I'm sure that Cotto dick-swingers will hurry to point out that Hopkins stopped DLH with a body shot, as if DLH has never taken a body-shot up until that point.

[MachineGunMitch]

DLH needs to retire while he still has his noodles

[Chiko_Tech]

If feather fisted Floyd stuns De la Hoya to the Body sure Cotto can.

[Scar]

Oscar by UD or KO.

[DoumB]

If feather fisted Floyd stuns De la Hoya to the Body sure Cotto can.

wtf is this myth? PBF didnt stun oscar to the body fool, oscar was never hurt in that fight, only tired:patsch

[jyuza]

Oscar by UD.

He doesn't have the KO punch he used to and Cotto is very tough.

[Relentless]

draw.

[DoumB]

Oscar by UD.

He doesn't have the KO punch he used to and Cotto is very tough.

I think if it goes the distance its proly due to Miguel's chin then oscar's power, he still dropped mayorga with a single left hook in his last fight b4 mayweather and miguel as proven to have a strong chin

[joito3]

cotto by tko oscar is not the same man he is a promoter now ! he has no legs

[Thread Stealer]

wtf is this myth? PBF didnt stun oscar to the body fool, oscar was never hurt in that fight, only tired:patsch

He was momentarily stunned in round 5 and his legs did a buckle but he recovered quickly.

It was a right hand to the face though, not the body.

[rekcutnevets]

Oscar has one of the best jabs in boxing. He didn't use it nearly enough in the Mayweather fight, and I think that was partially because he was trying to implement so many other parts of his game plan.

He would use his jab against Cotto. I also think his upward slanting left hook would find the mark to often for Cotto to withstand.

I think Oscar wins this by ko somewhere between rounds 5-9.

[DoumB]

He was momentarily stunned in round 5 and his legs did a buckle but he recovered quickly.

It was a right hand to the face though, not the body.
yeah ur right when he had pbf on the rope dgot caught by a great right hand and momentarly felt back with his knee, thats the only time i can remember

[the_what]

DLH fades late in fights. He faded in all his big fights. He even faded in the Mayweatehr fight.

Rounds 6 and on is Cotto's domain.

Cotto takes DLH out late with a relentless body attack. The young lion is to much for the golden goose.

[charlievint]

Oscar by UD or KO.

I'm with you on this one.

[Antwuan Maxx]

wtf is this myth? PBF didnt stun oscar to the body fool, oscar was never hurt in that fight, only tired:patsch

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But anyway, no way Oscar wins a decision over Cotto. I think a lot of you are forgetting how bad Oscar's stamina is. He could possibly KO Cotto. But I'd put my money on a Cotto UD.

[DoumB]

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But anyway, no way Oscar wins a decision over Cotto. I think a lot of you are forgetting how bad Oscar's stamina is. He could possibly KO Cotto. But I'd put my money on a Cotto UD.

hes hurt? :rofl dude I mean cmon he made a step back ward and got hit on the belly while expecting a shot to the head and went back to hit him if thats being soft to the body then I guess cotto is soft as well:-(

[Antwuan Maxx]

hes hurt? :rofl dude I mean cmon he made a step back ward and got hit on the belly while expecting a shot to the head and went back to hit him if thats being soft to the body then I guess cotto is soft as well:-(

Maybe the GIF doesn't tell the full story , but that punch definitely got to Oscar. When it landed, Oscar grimaced and it stopped him in tracks. Afterwards he began to clearly lean forward. That's when Floyd peppered him with jabs and right hands to the head, that Oscar wasn't able (or cared) to block because he was being overprotective of his midsection.

[fernando4cv3]

Oscar has one of the best jabs in boxing. He didn't use it nearly enough in the Mayweather fight, and I think that was partially because he was trying to implement so many other parts of his game plan.

He would use his jab against Cotto. I also think his upward slanting left hook would find the mark to often for Cotto to withstand.

I think Oscar wins this by ko somewhere between rounds 5-9.

what makes u think that oscar would use his jab against a opponent like cotto. he didnt use it against mayweather even though it proved very effective when he did use it. Then he stopped because he just wasnt feeling it. come on. cotto would drop this has been even though hes still game he isnt oscar of old

[compukiller]

DLH fades late in fights. He faded in all his big fights. He even faded in the Mayweatehr fight.

Rounds 6 and on is Cotto's domain.

Cotto takes DLH out late with a relentless body attack. The young lion is to much for the golden goose.

I like Cotto, but if Zab can stun him, DLH can seriously hurt him. This would be at 154, not 147 remember.

Cotto puts up a brave effort but DLH's power proves to be far too much, and the REF relieves Cotto in the 7th.

[psychopath]

Cotto will tire out DLH completely. The guy is just too energetic for DLH's old body.

When was the last time DLH was seen throwing those "spit fire" combinations? He can probably do that for the maximum of 2 to 3 rounds at this point and it won't be enough to ward off Cotto's attack.

[rekcutnevets]

fernando4cv3, Oscar would land his jab because he could with ease. That always gets fighter to throw a punch over and over, unless he is Zab Judah.

I like Cotto, but Zab could have done more with his left hand, but was too busy trying win on a foul. Oscar would not make the same mistake.

[C Money]

Cotto KO's Oscar. Miguel's too powerful, skilled. and he'll box his way inside. If Hop's body shot took him out?? He'll be lucky if Cotto takes him out with another body shot and not a head shot:good

[myk]

Cotto by KO

[thunder06]

Oscar should fight Cotto. It might help people forgive him for the Trinidad fight if he won.

[cuchulain]

DLH needs to retire while he still has his noodles


Why?

He's in the top three from 140-154.

[cuchulain]

It is sad how many of DLH's fans still buy into DLH being an elite fighter currently.

I so wish that DLH would just fight Hatton. Why?

Because most here have NO RESPECT for Hatton and all of these idiots would pick DLH.

I would make them ALL LOOK LIKE FOOLS ONCE AGAIN.

DLh would not beat Hatton and he would not beat Cotto.

But I prefer the Hatton fight because of the pace Hatton fights at and the fact I could find more DLH suckers willing to bet their soul.

You're still at the Oscar-bashing. If Oscar retired, you would be deprived writing material as 80 -90 % of your posts are Oscar-bashing.

Oscar could KO Hatton and Cotto on the same night.

[Shake]

This definitely feels like a fight that should be made. More than any other, there's uncertainty and a split among fans as to what the result would be.

I feel it too. I'm not sure who'd win this fight.

[Danny Ocean]

oscar by decision

[cuchulain]

Sure he could......hahahahahaha.

DLH has NEVER bashed any elite fighter in their prime....NONE!

And he is currently not in his prime.

And my post is NOT BASHING DLH.

IT IS BASHING IDIOTS LIKE YOU!

DLH is a HOF.

DLH had a very good career.

DLH is still a pretty good fighter now.....he just ain't elite.

BUT THAT DOESN"T SATISFY OSCARSEXUALS like you....you want real boxing fans to be DELLSUIONAL LIKE YOU.

TAKE OFF THE BLINDERS DIP SHIT.....DLH is NOT BEATING ANY ELITE FIGHTER and one more LOSS I think will prove this to the lot of you.


First, there are only two TRUE Oscarsexuals: Jack Presscot (who claims to have coined the term) and his Alterego, GayB.

I know you try hard to join that little club, with the overwhelming majority of your posts being Oscar-bashes, and if you keep it up, they might let you in.

If you check my posts and yours, you will find that mine cover a much wider swathe of boxers and they refrain from making hateful comments re: any boxer, even those I believe to be weak.

Your posts, like the two other aforementioned posters, tend to be biased, personal, and derogatory. You don't appear to do a lot of thinking. If you want to be taken seriously, you should avoid tossing around terms like "Dip shit". It shows a lack of class.

By any OBJECTIVE standard, Oscar is still in the ranks of the elite of the 147 and 154 divisions and will be until he gets dominated at least once by another boxer or retires.

But, given your attitude to Oscar, that's not something you're likely to grasp, much less agree with.

But it is true nonetheless.

[DoumB]

Cuchiicuchhiicoolain, you remind me of a wart on Oscar de la hoya's genitals. You are like a sore, itchy spot on his balls that wont go away, and lingers because of the body heat, warmth and moisture. You need to get a life and forget about DLH.....

Just trying to help. Help me, help you.

how often u get to see oscars golden balls jack?

[JoeR]

This happens with every great fighter after their prime. Tyson, Roy Jones, DLH, Castillo, etc. We have seen them fight when they were great; and in the back of our minds we always see them as they were, not as they are. Glen Johnson knocking out Roy Jones? Yeah right... McBride beating Tyson? please!!! Castillo getting knocked out in the fourth round? Doubtful.

The truth is DLH is past his prime. I myself was victim of this mentality. I picked DLH over Mayweather, I just thought he was too big, strong and skillful for PBF. But I was thinking about prime DLH skills, I blinded myself.

Cotto would knockout DLH, there is no doubt in my mind. Prime DLH? Different story. But dont let your memories blind you; DLH is not even close of what he was, he would not be able to handle the pressure from Cotto. He would lose.

[cuchulain]

Cuchiicuchhiicoolain, you remind me of a wart on Oscar de la hoya's genitals. You are like a sore, itchy spot on his balls that wont go away, and lingers because of the body heat, warmth and moisture. You need to get a life and forget about DLH.....

Just trying to help. Help me, help you.

Hey Jack, good to hear from you again.

Have you been away?

It's good that you want me to help you help me, and there IS something you CAN do to help me.

I've got a favour to ask.

It concerns Requiem4. I know he might not meet all of your standards for a TRUE Oscarsexual, but he is a bit desperate (take a look at his avatar !) and he DOES try, sooooo hard to live up to the loftier ideals oscarsexualism.

Do you think you and Gayb could lower your standards just a teeeeeeeny bit and let him in? It would be a charitable gesture for a boy in desperate need.

Thanking you in advance,


Cuchulain.


P.S.

Re: "you remind me of a wart on Oscar de la hoya's genitals"

You will make the others jealous if they hear that you are so intimateley acquainted with Oscar' s most tender and private parts.

[cuchulain]

how often u get to see oscars golden balls jack?

Doumb, that was a slip-up on Jack's part.

Don't embarrass him.

The others aren't supposed to know about Jack's special access to, and worship of, the golden genitalia.

[KobeIsGod]

DLH fades late in fights. He faded in all his big fights. He even faded in the Mayweatehr fight.

Rounds 6 and on is Cotto's domain.

Cotto takes DLH out late with a relentless body attack. The young lion is to much for the golden goose.

I totally agree especially considering De La Hoya is well past his prime. A younger Oscar could maybe stop him early in the fight but Oscar's propensity to lose steam late in fights coupled with the fact Cotto gets more active and stronger late on spell doom for this De La Hoya. Oscar can outbox him for the first half of the fight but Cotto's body work will be the difference. Cotto by tko 10/11 or UD if Oscar can get off the canvas a couple of times.

[cuchulain]

I totally agree especially considering De La Hoya is well past his prime. A younger Oscar could maybe stop him early in the fight but Oscar's propensity to lose steam late in fights coupled with the fact Cotto gets more active and stronger late on spell doom for this De La Hoya. Oscar can outbox him for the first half of the fight but Cotto's body work will be the difference. Cotto by tko 10/11 or UD if Oscar can get off the canvas a couple of times.


What makes you think there would be rounds 6-12?

Mayorga's trainers were banking on that same scenario. And Mayorga's chin is two to three times stronger than Cotto's.

Early to middle rounds KO, and NOT in Miguel's favour.

[KobeIsGod]

What makes you think there would be rounds 6-12?

Mayorga's trainers were banking on that same scenario. And Mayorga's chin is two to three times stronger than Cotto's.

Early to middle rounds KO, and NOT in Miguel's favour.

It's not so much that I feel Cotto's chin is rock solid as it is Oscar's slippage.

[DoumB]

What makes you think that the inside of your mouth has morphed into the same shape as DLH's vital organ?

:lol: :patsch

[cuchulain]

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[cuchulain]

What makes you think that the inside of your mouth has morphed into the same shape as DLH's vital organ?

How do YOU know what shape the inside of my mouth is, Jackko?

I KNOW how you know about the shape of Oscar's dick !

BTW, didn't you predict a massive Mayorga victory over Oscar, failing which you would be gone forever?

But you're still here?

I suppose , in the words of Hanibal Lecter, the forum is more a interesting place with you in it.

[cuchulain]

If that had been a pick up street basketball game, PBF would have faked Oscar, pulled down his shorts, and then scored right over on his Golden Ass, as everyone laughed.


Hey Jack, you're really in to that man-love stuff, what with pullin' down Oscar's shorts and all.

You're always fantasizing about Oscar in that way. It must drive you bananas if he doesn't reciprocate, eh?

You and Gayb get up to some real kinky stuff, man.

[Tettsuo]

Oscar by KO7.

Cotto is just too easy to hit and Oscar is an accurate puncher.

[charlievint]

Maybe the GIF doesn't tell the full story , but that punch definitely got to Oscar. When it landed, Oscar grimaced and it stopped him in tracks. Afterwards he began to clearly lean forward. That's when Floyd peppered him with jabs and right hands to the head, that Oscar wasn't able (or cared) to block because he was being overprotective of his midsection.

Oh Yea..For sure that shot took a bit out of DLH...but it didn't take TOO MUCH away from him...He was able to come back with a combo right after that shot...>BUT he did take notice.

[charlievint]

It is sad how many of DLH's fans still buy into DLH being an elite fighter currently.

I so wish that DLH would just fight Hatton. Why?

Because most here have NO RESPECT for Hatton and all of these idiots would pick DLH.

I would make them ALL LOOK LIKE FOOLS ONCE AGAIN.

DLh would not beat Hatton and he would not beat Cotto.

But I prefer the Hatton fight because of the pace Hatton fights at and the fact I could find more DLH suckers willing to bet their soul.

LOL...He is fool! He went 12 rounds with the sports p4p champ and was VERY competitive...some felt DLH won. I didn't but it was a VERY close fight.

If DLH isn't elite based on his competitive preformance against FLoyd then Floyd is not ELITE either. And we know that ain't the case.

DLH is a better figther than both Hatton and Cotto...Mayweather is as well. The skills they have would enable them to win a UD agaisnt either fighter.

Cotto beat Zab but it was a "FAIRLY competitive" showing. I do think the Low blows took a lot out of Zab but Cotto was a true champion and faught at a consistant pace. He did what he had to do to win, but Zab ain't Floyd and he ain't Oscar. The fight between Cotto and Hatton would be good but Cotto isn't going down to 140 and Hatton won't go up to 147 to face Cotto.

I think Cotto would loose to Hatton at 140 and Hatton would loose to Cotto at 147 but BOTH men would loose at any weight to both DLH and Floyd Mayweather based on skills and talent alone.

[Shake]

This is almost split right down the middle.

[Shake]

Seems like this may actually happen. Up with the poll, I guess, maybe we'll get some more input.

[DoumB]

If that had been a pick up street basketball game, PBF would have faked Oscar, pulled down his shorts, and then scored right over on his Golden Ass, as everyone laughed.

yeah ur right on the basket ball part :lol:

[DoumB]

LOL...He is fool! He went 12 rounds with the sports p4p champ and was VERY competitive...some felt DLH won. I didn't but it was a VERY close fight.

If DLH isn't elite based on his competitive preformance against FLoyd then Floyd is not ELITE either. And we know that ain't the case.

DLH is a better figther than both Hatton and Cotto...Mayweather is as well. The skills they have would enable them to win a UD agaisnt either fighter.

Cotto beat Zab but it was a "FAIRLY competitive" showing. I do think the Low blows took a lot out of Zab but Cotto was a true champion and faught at a consistant pace. He did what he had to do to win, but Zab ain't Floyd and he ain't Oscar. The fight between Cotto and Hatton would be good but Cotto isn't going down to 140 and Hatton won't go up to 147 to face Cotto.

I think Cotto would loose to Hatton at 140 and Hatton would loose to Cotto at 147 but BOTH men would loose at any weight to both DLH and Floyd Mayweather based on skills and talent alone.

yep pretty much what I think too.

[Rumsfeld]

Cotto via late stoppage.

It's amazing, but no matter how many times DLH loses, the DLH faithful will always believe he can win. I can respect that, but I strongly disagree.

There's a reason DLH is still the biggest draw in boxing, bar none.

:smoke

[kaygb]

Oscar loses again if this fight happens. Oscar just can't go more than 8 or so rounds without getting tired no matter how hard he trains. (Oscar not being able to beat the elite fighters really gets to you doesn't it Cuchucain :lol: :lol: :lol: ).
Cotto: Improves in every fight
Oscar: Oscar is going the other way.
Cotto: Cotto's strength is his brutal body attack.
Oscar: Oscars weak in the belly and Cottos body attack will wear him down.
Cotto: Can go a full 12.
Oscar: Tired after 8 and cotto's body attaxk will drop that down to 5 or 6.
Oh yeah, Cuchi will be there waving his little Oscar flag. And when Oscar wilts from those brutal body shots the tears will flow.
When Cottos hand is raised in victory you will see Cuchucain slowly shuffling out of the arena wiping the tears away and mumbling "Damn that KAYGB and Jack Presscot sure know their shit. Everything happened just the way they said it would. Man, those guys are good!"

[hopkinsfan07]

cotto will smash his body

[DatBo215]

Oscar and Cotto are going in different directions. I love Oscar but he clearly isn't the same fighter he was, even a few years ago. Fighters can get old over night, just ask Roy Jones. Cotto seems to be getting better with every fight while oscar has progressively looked worse. And yea the mayweather fight was competitive, but only because Mayweather was pot shooting and really didn't do enough to win the fight, not because Oscar fought particullarly well. IMO Cotto wins this fight by late stoppage.

[1lehudson]

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But anyway, no way Oscar wins a decision over Cotto. I think a lot of you are forgetting how bad Oscar's stamina is. He could possibly KO Cotto. But I'd put my money on a Cotto UD.That clip show just why Floyd is p4p. note the way that right in the middle of throwing his left hook to the body that he managed to get out of the way of Oscars left hook...Just Awesome. PS I dont think that Oscar was hurt by the body shot, he was stepping back, and throwing his own left hook at the same time, maybe abit of balance.