Calling Out All Pac Fans! Year Off Bet Thread Diaz vs Pac!

[acb]

One year off bet thread on a potential Diaz vs Pac fight.

I take Diaz (with a full 2 week eat crow period after the fight).

PacDBest said its an easy win for Pac. Patsy said Pac by KO (big suprise). Put your money where your mouth is. :smoke

So far dangerousity has been the only one man enough to accept.

And please no bullshit excuses about not liking time off bets. Either bet on your man or be man enought to admit you dont have enough confidence in him... period.

[Swing4TheFence]

I'll ban myself for a year if Pac beats Diaz. He cant do it. Diaz easily wins.

[acb]

Trust me, no pacfan in their right mind is going to take that bet... The odds are against them and I don't see how pacman could beat Diaz.. There's no way... This is like CHico vs Clottey... A straight up beatdown pacman will receive..

I bet you none these guys will take the bet unless they're foolish enough to bet with their hearts..

Your right, which is why they should stop with these nonsense posts about how the might Pac dismantles Diaz. It aint gonna happen.

[Mrboogie23]

thats a stupid bet. Anyone that takes it is an idiot.

[chimba]

Why stop at a year? Put a lifetime ban on the line. Get rid of those Pacman loving trolls once and for all. :yep

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl Ill be damned if I bet straight up on this...give some reasonable handicap..Ill contemplate it

[acb]

is this fight even going to happen??????????????:bart

I believe it will. Its a money fight with Don King behind Diaz. Pac is having a hard time making 130lbs IMO.

Notice though that I opened the thread with the word potential. Its not a done deal.

[Swing4TheFence]

Your right, which is why they should stop with these nonsense posts about how the might Pac dismantles Diaz. It aint gonna happen.

Exactly.....sometimes I wonder why I even come on this site. If theres one thing i know is boxing, I train everyday here in south florida, I watch every fight (even the garbage fights) and I know for a fact Pacman will get a beatdown by this kid. Here is the sad part though, after he wipes the mat with him all these bandwagoners will just change their name to JuanDBest and pretend they were with this guy for years. They will say...Ohhh who has Pacman beat besides 2 old men and he is overrated and yaddayaddayadda. Gotta love it

[chimba]

I believe it will. Its a money fight with Don King behind Diaz. Pac is having a hard time making 130lbs IMO.

Notice though that I opened the thread with the word potential. Its not a done deal.

Diaz will be favored here evenso with people around boxing... Give a handicap ..make it a sweeter bet for PAC fans...Its a fact that PAC is the one going up to Juans weight class

[acb]

Exactly.....sometimes I wonder why I even come on this site. If theres one thing i know is boxing, I train everyday here in south florida, I watch every fight (even the garbage fights) and I know for a fact Pacman will get a beatdown by this kid. Here is the sad part though, after he wipes the mat with him all these bandwagoners will just change their name to JuanDBest.


Im just trying to put these huggers in a corner. They come here with no objectivity and just span the board with nutthugging posts that I dont even think they believe. So its time they put up or shut up.

Im taking the bet, and believe me, if Pac wins, I will be true to my word with this bet and get out of here.

[saul_ir34]

Ha yes agreed. supposedly they say Pac is too fast and strong for Juan. and that Pac wont stand in front of Juan like his opponents seem to do. I dont think any of them go in there to stand in front of him. Its all that pressure. you can only move so far away until you hit the ropes and he is attached to your chest landing combinations to your head and body.

[acb]

Diaz will be favored here evenso with people around boxing... Give a handicap ..make it a sweeter bet for PAC fans...Its a fact that PAC is the one going up to Juans weight class

Chimba I know its a shitty bet for a Pac fan. But I could post some quotes from Pac fans just from the last day about how this is an easy fight for Pac, so there should be no problem taking the bet.

I know your not going to take it, however.

[acb]

Chimba is not dumb and he's not a novice either like some other pachugger I know so I doubt he would take the bet acb..

I know. Its the other lemmings that Im targeting.

[Swing4TheFence]

They say that Pac has the same stamina as Diaz:nono

When your having fun beating up on people you really dont get tired.
When Diaz is in his ass we will see where his stamina is at. Ill double it for them. Ill band myself for 2 years to there 1 because I know for a fact Diaz will rec him.

[ravtrav]

Its tempting:think

[chimba]

Im just trying to put these huggers in a corner. They come here with no objectivity and just span the board with nutthugging posts that I dont even think they believe. So its time they put up or shut up.

Im taking the bet, and believe me, if Pac wins, I will be true to my word with this bet and get out of here.

Ill put it this way...Ill agree to a 1 year BAN but if you lose

as a bonus for me ..

I want to allow you to post once a month a thread that states that yes PACQUIAO is top 30 ATG in the history of boxing and be sincere about it.. Listing his accomplishments

1st fighter from Fly to lightweight...champ in history
lowest weight fighter in highest p4p ranking in history
one of the greatest if not 122 fighters in history etc etc
etc etc

Can you do that? if you can Ill do it!:good

[acb]

Its tempting:think

:good

Come on man Im taking it with you.

[acb]

Ill put it this way...Ill agree to a 1 year BAN but if you lose

as a bonus for me ..

I want to allow you to post once a month a thread that states that yes PACQUIAO is top 30 ATG in the history of boxing and be sincere about it.. Listing his accomplishments

1st fighter from Fly to lightweight...champ in history
lowest weight fighter in highest p4p ranking in history
one of the greatest if not 122 fighters in history etc etc
etc etc

Can you do that? if you can Ill do it!:good

Done deal. Of course, I wont be here to allow you to do that kind of thing, but I think the other will oblige.

I will feel kind of bad if you take this bet Chimba, think twice. I like you. :smoke

[Swing4TheFence]

Bottom line...this kid is equivilent to a lightweight Pavlik.....agree or not.....and Pacman cant keep this young animal off of him. I was hoping people didnt come to their senses and kept on with the incrediPac nonsense because I was prepared to put major money down if he was a underdog...MONEY IN THE BANK....if you ask me.

[acb]

BTW, someone in some other thread said that PAcman punches harder than Acelino Freitas and that's got to be one of the silliest thing ive heard in a while.

Welcome to the Pac nation.

If you dig up a thread from a couple of months back, you will see them predicting that Paulie Mal would get KOd by Pac (after Cotto couldnt even do it). :-(

[chimba]

Done deal. Of course, I wont be here to allow you to do that kind of thing, but I think the other will oblige.

I will feel kind of bad if you take this bet Chimba, think twice. I like you. :smoke

Like I said I'll allow you to post once a month..I trust you are a man of your word.. :smoke Hey you sweetened the bet..Its a win win for me if PAc loses then he aint Top 30 ATG material to begin with..and I can take solace in that

[Swing4TheFence]

PAcman doesn't know how to fight when he's being backed up and ya can bet your azz that he'll get backed up by the stronger Diaz...

Is Pacman going to back up Diaz? not a chance in hell...

BTW, someone in some other thread said that PAcman punches harder than Acelino Freitas and that's got to be one of the silliest thing ive heard in a while.

ROFL....Yeah that was my thread this morning....can you beleive the nonsense.

[juancho214]

JuansDbest,lol

[acb]

Like I said I'll allow you to post once a month..I trust you are a man of your word.. :smoke Hey you sweetened the bet..Its a win win for me if PAc loses then he aint Top 30 ATG material to begin with..and I can take solace in that

This is like a drive-by shooting gone wrong, I intented to kill certain Pac fans and I ended up killling Chimba. :oops:

Done deal.

[chimba]

I don't have much of a problem against you Chimba. I'd more like to see all out nuthuggers like johnco and that internet warrior mad_takamura take the bet. I could do without those kinds of douchebag fanatics.

Ive already taken a bet :lol: but with conditions:D Hey youd get what you want Juan a mexican you dislike beating PAC..what are the odds:rofl :rofl

[acb]

Im logging off, I expect to see some takers tommorow.

[enzo]

I'll take this bet if they fight at 130!

[chimba]

This is like a drive-by shooting gone wrong, I intented to kill certain Pac fans and I ended up killling Chimba. :oops:

Done deal.

Hehe hey this fight is far from being a done deal ..fuck for all we know JMM might derail PAC:rofl :rofl :rofl at this point it will be the mother of all anticlimactic

[Swing4TheFence]

It was DANGEROUSITY who said that.. He's not Pinoy is he?

I thought he had some sense but I guess he's just another one of those..... :-(

Then they question who he has fought....Wow

[Jose FM]

Pac UD. I think the talent at SFW is a lot better than lightweight. Many people will be surprised if lets say a PAC, or JMM, or Guzman type fighter moves up and handles and of the Diaz'es.

[Swing4TheFence]

Pac UD. I think the talent at SFW is a lot better than lightweight. Many people will be surprised if lets say a PAC, or JMM, or Guzman type fighter moves up and handles and of the Diaz'es.

Nah, wont be surprised if Guzman can beat Juan. Im not saying Diaz is unbeatable, not by far but he will destroy Pac.

[chimba]

C'mon Pinoys don't start doubting Pacman now..:yep

Talk about doubt, Im the only one who took the damn bet!!!:deal

[ravtrav]

Fuck it, Ill take the bet. Pac by SD!

[theunderdog]

pac fan here, and i'm not betting. you guys finally found a mexican who'd be the favorite against pac. cheers. i think the other pacfans should counter with a pac-david diaz time off thread.

i have always said that david diaz is the best opponent for pac at 135. all the other champs are too dangerous for him. for chrissakes, pac should stay at 130

[ravtrav]

pac fan here, and i'm not betting. you guys finally found a mexican who'd be the favorite against pac. cheers. i think the other pacfans should counter with a pac-david diaz time off thread.

i have always said that david diaz is the best opponent for pac at 135. all the other champs are too dangerous for him. for chrissakes, pac should stay at 130Gotta love The Great Muta:good

[theunderdog]

Gotta love The Great Muta:good

muta is the truth pal!!

[retriever]

Il take the bet. PAC by late K.O

[ravtrav]

Is there an expiration date on this bet?

[PATSYS]

One year off bet thread on a potential Diaz vs Pac fight.

I take Diaz (with a full 2 week eat crow period after the fight).

PacDBest said its an easy win for Pac. Patsy said Pac by KO (big suprise). Put your money where your mouth is. :smoke

So far dangerousity has been the only one man enough to accept.

And please no bullshit excuses about not liking time off bets. Either bet on your man or be man enought to admit you dont have enough confidence in him... period.

Put me in.

Pac by KO

[theunderdog]

I guess the one year off starts the day after the fight... if there will be an actual fight at all ... :lol:


Updated list:

...PAC............ Juan...
chimba <-----------> acb
ravtrav <-----------> Swing4TheFence
Jose FM <----------> El Rey
eastSideBoxer <----> Black
retriever <--------->

i think the dude said two weeks of crow eating before the ban

[psychopath]

Its tempting:think

Hey NO man! :-(

Who's gonna take care of the BOOKIE bettings? :D :lol:

[theunderdog]

yall would look stupid if this fight never happens

[psychopath]

yall would look stupid if this fight never happens

Yeah I don't thinks so. :yep

GBP wouldn't want Arum and Pac to earn money without their company. That's DK vs Arum if it happens. :D

[Boom_Boom]

Black doesnt count he has no credibility, hes just going to use one of his other 8-9 handles to post on the boards.

[Chert]

get diaz down to 130 and see what happens

yep. diaz has a lot of fat in the mid-section. he's still a young boy. he can make 130 if he really wants to fight pac.

[Boom_Boom]

I have more credibility than your whinny ass. Don't be bitter like a female just cuz i owned you yesterday.

how the freak did you owned me, and back in the Freitas/Diaz bet, i took the whole month off you started posting with the AB handle.

[theunderdog]

Like I said you little bitch, I didn't change my alias to hide. I just had no choice because the Moderator wouldn't let me keep my original name..

I only have one name and that's BLACK..

So fuck off you little cunt. You're all bitter just cuz im picking Juan over your superhero pacman.. :lol:

Well that's reality son, PAcman is at a disadvantage against Diaz and that's all there is to it..

You still have alot to learn.. :-(

why are you suddenly so high on juan diaz? didn't you pick julio to win?

[Boom_Boom]

Like I said you little bitch, I didn't change my alias to hide. I just had no choice because the Moderator wouldn't let me keep my original name..

I only have one name and that's BLACK..

So fuck off you little cunt. You're all bitter just cuz im picking Juan over your superhero pacman.. :lol:

Well that's reality son, PAcman is at a disadvantage against Diaz and that's all there is to it..

You still have alot to learn.. :-(

That still doesnt answer why you still posted here when you took a bet not to for a month and lost.

Quit talking out of your ass, Im the one who owned your dumbass ever since you joined this site and you know it even the biggest Pac haters know it too.

Whenever I post in a Pac thread your never aiming at me cause you know Ill just make you look stupid.

[Jose FM]

.
First, I suggest that we'll wait for the official announcement if this fight is ON... or else we'll looked like a bunch of idiots here betting on nothing...

Anyway, I'd like to see the pre-fight 1 year off betting list... :lol:

...PAC............ Juan...
chimba <-----------> acb
ravtrav <-----------> Swing4TheFence
Jose FM <----------> El Rey
eastSideBoxer <----> Black

Just add your name on the list...
WAIT! WHAT? I not actually betting for a year off, im was just saying PAC would beat Diaz!

[Boom_Boom]

hahaha funny boy. You don't talk to your daddy that way.. :nono

FYI yes, during my ban, I did come into the site just once to pay tribute to my favorite fighter DIEGO CORRALES back in May... and many other banned people came in just to pay their respects to a fallen warrior and if you dont have the heart to understand something like that, then you need Jesus.. You need to gather up your pacels and buy yourself a heart man seriously... So cold blooded... :-(

You need Jesus man... :-(

GO ahead talk back to your daddy again so i can teach your whinny ass another lesson.

dude you are seriously in denial man.

I dont know where to start, but its ok cause in a few weeks youll be gone again for a few months until the next Pac fight comes along.

[enzo]

Count me in there too! i believe pac has that in and out style combined with speed and power to beat baby bull.

[enzo]

You guys are fantasizing amongs yourselves here... Pacman can beat alot of people but he isn't going to beat a lightweight Juan Diaz.Gotta be logical you know... Reason over passion is what it's about....

Im not a fan of Juan Diaz, dont know why but im just not feeling his style but if he were to fight pacman, I would bet on him against anyone..

then you should include yourself in this year off bet... you and all your other handles. :hey

[theunderdog]

Dude I told you guys about the handles, how I had no choice but to change names only because the mods wouldn't accept my original name..

But anyway, when the fight actually get signed, I will bet alllll yaa...

You guys are betting with your heart, and not with your head...

Honestly in this matchup, my heart is with pacman and i would root for him, but my head tells me that Diaz will win.... It's one of those things fellas... Any objective fan who knows boxing will tell you that the odds are against pacman bigtime...

But I like pacman alot more than Diaz so i would root for him but at the same time, I would bet against him because that's the logical thing to do... Reason over passion....

you did that too with the julio juan match up. you're a fan of julio and rode it out with him even if he was a clear underdog. we all do that sometimes, don't we?

[theunderdog]

Exactly! very well put.. :good

The real boxing fans viewed this fight as an even matchup, although it didn't turn out that way...

and the "real" boxing fans were wrong. julio was indeed overmatched against diaz. oddsmakers were right in putting julio as the underdog. even esb vbookie had it julio 7/2. so i maintain my stand that julio was a clear underdog here. the match showed it.

[theunderdog]

Bro, I didn't bet with my heart in the Diaz fight.. IN my thread, I explained it technically, step by step as to why I think Julio would win..
I gave logical reasoning man, i didn't just say that Julio would win because he's simply better or anything... I explained it step by step as to why I thought he would win...

But in this case, it's a different story... PAc's power has already decreased at 130 and yet he's talking about stepping up to a strong lightweight titleholder who's been on a wreck lately..

Are you one of the people who is picking Pacman over diaz???

Diaz vs Diaz was a fight between two young title holders, a 50-50 fight so nobody was betting with their hearts...

you did when you chose to overlook the facets of the game where juan was better than julio, i.e., speed and punch volume.

i really don't know why people saw this as a 50-50 fight. i definitely did not.

and no, i don't pick pac to win over juan diaz right now because of the simple fact that i haven't seen pac perform at 135 yet. if ever he takes one fight at 135 against david diaz or whoever he so chooses, i'd be more than willing to give out a forecast on what i think would happen if pac and juan diaz meet. but as of right now, this fight is far from happening

[PATSYS]

Ok, enough of this gay shit. I am upping my bet to 2 year off.

I am picking Pac to beat baby pit bull.

Takers??!

[enzo]

We need an update here... those baby bull huggers needs to step up.

[PATSYS]

ohhhh shiaaat!! you got some pair on you huh Patsy? Im beginning to like your style... :good

Put up or shut up, biatch.

Pac by KO

:twisted:

[enzo]

ohhhh shiaaat!! you got some pair on you huh Patsy? Im beginning to like your style... :good


He stole it from MAB... :yep

[Swing4TheFence]

I except your 2 years off and I raise you a year. Diaz by TKO in a walk in the park for him. Im just a little scared for Diazthat after the fight he gets hit with child abuse.

[Raden]

What if Pac beats Diaz? What's the condition?

[PATSYS]

I except your 2 years off and I raise you a year. Diaz by TKO in a walk in the park for him. Im just a little scared for Diazthat after the fight he gets hit with child abuse.

I don't accept bet from newbies with less than 1000 posts who can barely spell the word "accept".

[boxbox]

I don't accept bet from newbies with less than 1000 posts who can barely spell the word "accept".


hahhaha:rofl... anyways. do i get to bet? i only post once in a while...but i've been here long enuf:huh .. i think PAC might pull it off..yeah i dont believe the Baby Bull has the power to KO PAC, doesnt even match his workrate..PAC might not KO juan, but his new style of coming in and out will be a good tactic:hey.. PAC UD:bbb

[PATSYS]

hahhaha:rofl... anyways. do i get to bet? i only post once in a while...but i've been here long enuf:huh .. i think PAC might pull it off..yeah i dont believe the Baby Bull has the power to KO PAC, doesnt even match his workrate..PAC might not KO juan, but his new style of coming in and out will be a good tactic:hey.. PAC UD:bbb

You're on. :admin

[Chert]

juan diaz is very effective in the inside but no so much on the outside. if pac fights him on the outside with his straight left and counter right hook, then pac may have an advantage here. pac can also occasionally dart in, unleash a flurry of punches then dart out immediately after so juan can't unleash his own short inside punches. pac definitely has the advantage of foot speed to do this.

i think juan diaz is kinda like cotto as he also plods forward and is more of an inside fighter. unlike cotto though, he looks for the head more rather than go for the body.

[charlievint]

One year off bet thread on a potential Diaz vs Pac fight.

I take Diaz (with a full 2 week eat crow period after the fight).

PacDBest said its an easy win for Pac. Patsy said Pac by KO (big suprise). Put your money where your mouth is. :smoke

So far dangerousity has been the only one man enough to accept.

And please no bullshit excuses about not liking time off bets. Either bet on your man or be man enought to admit you dont have enough confidence in him... period.

Lets wait until PAC acknolwdeges the challenge and see if it's something that will take place...But if it does happen I'll go with the sure bet in PAC by 5th round KO.:good

[charlievint]

Why stop at a year? Put a lifetime ban on the line. Get rid of those Pacman loving trolls once and for all. :yep

Are you crazy!!!! Man...If you do a life time ban then all there will be are PAC FANS!:patsch And a few fans who didn't vote at all. A year with PAC fans is long enough.

[charlievint]

Explain step by step how pacman will beat Diaz cuz if you dont, im going to assume that you're betting with pure heart and you're just an unrealistic nuthugger..

tell me, how can pacman beat him?

Sure will...Juan is a guy who comes straight ahead...for the most part Pac is the same way...But you see PAC uses lateral movment and angles when he fights now (given his opponets style)..He's constantly bouncing and moveing left or right, showing head movement ect.ect....all at the same time he's throwing straight lefts or counter right hooks.

Juan will bull rush PAC with stragith rights and an occasioanl Jab to set up his great combinations....but PAC is so fast he'll hault Dias with a straight left. The clean up right hook should follow shortly....How good is Diaz chin is the #1 question.

I think Pac will eat a lot of leather on his way to out gunning Diaz with in 8 rounds, but most of what Diaz lands will not land flush b/c of Pacs own combinations....the speed and power will give pac the edge on effiecency. Soon or later Diaz will get caught with a clean punch that will do A LOT of Damage! I see PAC landing a hellacious counter right hook after doing much of his damage with the staright left.

I don't think it will be a complete blow out but at the end of the night the two styles match up like gasoline and fire. The one with the bigger explosion wins and I will bet my house that PAC has the bigger explosion if this fight takes place.

[charlievint]

Yea that's what I thought Charlie, you can't even back up your claim cuz deep inside your heart, you don't even believe your own words...

You puss...

LOL:rofl Geez man...Calm down there Black! I'm a puss b/c I had to get some work done? One thing about me is I only eat Puss...to be one would mean my entire make up would have to go through an extensive re-program. :lol: . Just giving you a hard time bro...I'm sure you thought I couldn't back up my argument like much of the other posters....but I'm not like most of the other posters...there are a few of us who really know this sport and are a fan of boxing as a whole....I'm one of them.

So what's up with you...are you a fan of Diaz after a great preformance of determination and relentlessness or have you been a fan Diaz???? Or are you just a fan of the sport? Seems like you question PAC's chances at the 135 king? There is good reasons for questioning PAC....he's untested at 135 and PAC greatest attributes are his physical gifts that he was born with like, speed, reflexes and power. Carrying all 3 of those attributes up successfully are really hard to do....Floyd does so well moving up b/c his skills are still intact....Manny isn't a highly skilled fighter although MUCH improved overall.

Oh....by the way don't ever come at me like that you bitch! lol

[charlievint]

I was only kidding bro.. I know you're not like these other nuthuggers..

No, Im not a fan of Juan Diaz but I do think his size, relentless pressure, and his underrated jab will be too much, even for pacman..
I got into the details about this fight so I don't want to get into it again
but yea, the odds are against pacman..

BTW explain to me why you think Pacman punches harder than Popo.. :huh

Im rooting for Pacman if he ever faces Diaz.. :deal Diaz doesn't float my boat.

LOL...it's all good man...I've seen your posts before..I know you weren't taking this question there. It's all good.

I actually think Juan is a very good fighter...He's got a great work rate and you are right..his jab is pretty underrated. His straight right is very good and throws off many of his opponets and opens them up for the rest of his combos.

I just don't think that Juans pressure will be a problem for PAC who is use to pressure...Well...shelling out his pressure that is. While I think Pac won't fight well off the back foot....I also believe Juan can't fight off the back foot.

I beleive that PAC will be able to push the younger Juan back moreso than Juan pushing PAC back and that will be the deciding factor. Once Juan sees the speed first hand and feels the power I think he'll have to switch gears.

But that's all speculation...I don't know how PAC will do at 135. I don't know if he'll be as powerful and a quick. But given the way he's dominated since moving up to 126 and 130 I have to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I think Popo has VERY good Power...But he's not very fast and I would say he has natrually heavy hands for his size. I think PAC is more Explosive! He's faster and stronger. I think PACs explosiveness makes his power more dangerous and makes him more dangerous overall.

But....I think POPO does have the heaver hands. I hope that makes sense. I think Corraels has heavier hands than PAC, but I don't think either of them possess the explosive power that surprises their oponents rather than puts them down or out cold.

[Bill Butcher]

I take it you mean juan diaz vs pac (you never stated)

Julio didnt look that great in defeat to juan & I thought a shot morales was dealt an unfair verdict by the judges vs david diaz.

I might make pac the fav vs julio & david but juan would probably beat pac.

I dont want in on no crazy ass time off bet tho as none of them are my fav boxers & even if they were, you would have to be mental to make a bet like that, all to lose & nothing to gain.

[acb]

You can't evaporate them. They'll find another Mexican dick to suck on. This time... Juan Diaz. :lol::lol::lol:

Youve had your lips permanently stitched to Pac´s so you would know.

Take the bet, pussy. :yep

[acb]

Im impressed with all the Pac fans who are taking this bet, they are down with their fighter. :good

[acb]

And who were those who think that Juan can beat PAC... It's only you... haha... :lol: Mr. Chimba will take care your one year in prison... :D

Doesnt mean a thing to me who takes the bet on Juans side. I didnt take the bet to make friends with Juans fans. Just to call out certain Pac fans (and most of them responded like men... minus a few who I knew wouldnt).

[acb]

Hope this fight materialized and we'll be happy to have one PAC hater less in this forum... :D

Im not a Pac hater, Ive given him praise on a number of occasions (even in the last 5 minutes on different threads).

What I dont like are his nuggswingers who think he is the best fighter in the history of boxing and barely know shit about the sport.

Before you say stupid shit, read my posts.

[acb]

Find another member here who will pick Juan and will sign on the one year off bet coz this should be a one-to-one bet... PAC fans were standing by to match whoever will come forward for Juan and sign the bet...

Updated list:

...PAC............ Juan...
chimba <-----------> acb
ravtrav <-----------> Swing4TheFence

Why does it need to be one to one? Time off bets are never one to one, since when has that been a stipulation.

Its my thread, what the hell are you doing making the rules anyways?

[dangerousity]

Put me down for Pac. I just dont see Juan beating Pac with his style. If you said Valero id be too nervous to take the bet...you cant analyze power into equation of how a fight will turn out, 1 punch KO...If you said Guzman...id still be very nervous, slick boxer with speed, chin and skills... Now Diaz, a guy with no power to KO Manny, a guy with not enough skills to outbox Mannym a guy who will walk towards Mannys left. Id pick Pacman 70/30.

Had Diaz been doing this in 130lb, Pac would still be a heavy favourite but because its 135 its a different story? You guys are making too much out of 5lb...Duran came up from LW to take Hagler on, Arguello from FW to WW to take on Pryor. I do think people way overestimate weight sometimes.

Just read Eastside post above. Yep, to make this bet fair there should be one Juan vs one Pac believer. The way it is, 20 guys betting for Pac could go out if you win whereas only 1 Juan man will go out if we win. Hardly fair. Personally I hate time off bets, I like to enjoy my win and cant do that if they dissapear. Prefer if you guys stayed around and got a Pac avatar or something...

[acb]

Put me down for Pac. I just dont see Juan beating Pac with his style. If you said Valero id be too nervous to take the bet...you cant analyze power into equation of how a fight will turn out, 1 punch KO...If you said Guzman...id still be very nervous, slick boxer with speed, chin and skills... Now Diaz, a guy with no power to KO Manny, a guy with not enough skills to outbox Mannym a guy who will walk towards Mannys left. Id pick Pacman 70/30.

Had Diaz been doing this in 130lb, Pac would still be a heavy favourite but because its 135 its a different story? You guys are making too much out of 5lb...Duran came up from LW to take Hagler on, Arguello from FW to WW to take on Pryor. I do think people way overestimate weight sometimes.

Not just weight.

Endurance (the best in boxing)
Punches in bunches (again, at least ONE of the best in boxing)
Uses a Jab
Youth
Lifestyle (clean)
And weight and size (walks around at 150-160lbs)

[Morrissey]

One year off bet thread on a potential Diaz vs Pac fight.

I take Diaz (with a full 2 week eat crow period after the fight).

PacDBest said its an easy win for Pac. Patsy said Pac by KO (big suprise). Put your money where your mouth is. :smoke

So far dangerousity has been the only one man enough to accept.

And please no bullshit excuses about not liking time off bets. Either bet on your man or be man enought to admit you dont have enough confidence in him... period.

Admittedly, I had favored Juan over Pac even before his win over Julio, and the main reason is the weight difference. But my thinking has chanced a little but since then.

The only question here is, can his power that we have seen at 130 be enough to seriosly hurt Diaz? Becasue it is the only thing IMO that can make the difference for him. If Diaz can be affected, and won't walk through Pac's flurries, I say it will be a great, great fight, and Pac can really win it. BUT if Diaz just shrugged it off like he did with the haymakers thrown by Freitas, well, it would be a bloody mismatch.

Now, is Pac a lesser puncher than Freitas? HOw can we argue that? IMO, Pac gives the same or more damage as Popo. Popo maybe arguably the harder hitter, but Pac dishes out his punches better and more often, and they result in the same way: opponents feeling helpless and weakened.

But to stop on that comparison and then claim, based on that, Pac will have no chance since he might not be able to hurt Diaz, is underrating Pac too much at the same time. putting a lot of cred to Popo's stay at 135, where to put it in an honest term, is not impressive. What has he done there? Was his fabled KO power mattered there? Was he able to floor the late china-chinned Corales who was there for him to hit all the time? Supposedly, that fight was a rumble, two big hitters, but then what we see there, was that Popo was not able to carry his power at 135. I guess that was the most important thing we learned from that fight. His lost to Diaz further proved the point.

Anyway, I havr to go back to work.

[ipe]

Bump

Don't want to bash anyone, but just want to know your views if ever Pac fights Juan Diaz at 135 or 140.

[kirk]

I still think Juan Diaz can beat Pac.... id favor pac at this point seeing as how he carried 147 so well, but i have no doubt diaz can beat Pac.

[boxbox]

year off??! wtf do you want to do that? i bet you'll only get it on with a multiple alias poster.

[harrison]

:patsch:patsch

acb is another member of the pacterons :good

[HyperBone]

wow this thread is alive again! but...acb decided to join another boxing website:yep

[HyperBone]

Bump

Don't want to bash anyone, but just want to know your views if ever Pac fights Juan Diaz at 135 or 140.

Pac will walk through Juan Diaz shots and eventually find his mark eventually en route to a 7th or 8th rd TKO

[Morrissey]

:lol: at my last lengthy post here..

Was just bored during that time in my work.

[boxbox]

PAC AIN'T NOTHING BUT A HYPE UP JOKE.JUST LIKE PACLAND.NOTHING BUT STUPID CRAP ON THAT SITE:patsch

troll alert:admin

[Boom_Boom]

lol

allblack posted in this thread...good times