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jimmy1991
10-15-2007, 07:01 AM
It pisses me off all the worl champs out there. this is what i think one of the biggest problems with boxing, look at ufc they dont ave 5 world champs in one weight class. they should all go get fucked or just combine to make one world champinship 4 each class:twisted:
bumdujour
10-15-2007, 07:03 AM
It pisses me off all the worl champs out there. this is what i think one of the biggest problems with boxing, look at ufc they dont ave 5 world champs in one weight class. they should all go get fucked or just combine to make one world champinship 4 each class:twisted:

ohhhh.....thats still pissing you off:|

how old are you??? 12 ???

if you love UFC so much why dont you just fuck off then:deal
Rollo
10-15-2007, 07:05 AM
Boxing is far better than UFC that´s why we have more champions!
pioterbezkitu
10-15-2007, 07:05 AM
ohhhh.....thats still pissing you off:|

how old are you??? 12 ???

if you love UFC so much why dont you just fuck off then:deal

This guy is right. It's nothing new tho, but he's 100% right. There should be only one champ in one division.
jimmy1991
10-15-2007, 07:06 AM
nar i hate ufc i just think people could notice champs more if theres was only one
jimmy1991
10-15-2007, 07:08 AM
an its hard to call your self the champ when theres 5 other dickheads who pritty much ave the same belt
TBooze
10-15-2007, 07:08 AM
It pisses me off all the worl champs out there. this is what i think one of the biggest problems with boxing, look at ufc they dont ave 5 world champs in one weight class. they should all go get fucked or just combine to make one world champinship 4 each class:twisted:

Fighters tend to make more money if they hold a piece of alphabet crap, so it is a small price to pay for boxing fans IMO.

If you are a fan, you know who the best fighters are, and do not need the alphabet organizations or indeed The Ring to tell who is the champ.
bumdujour
10-15-2007, 07:11 AM
This guy is right. It's nothing new tho, but he's 100% right. There should be only one champ in one division.

of course he is right. but saying this stuff is like saying "oxygen is good for you"!

i mean come on.........no need to state the fuckin obvious!!!
Zhaakal
10-15-2007, 07:12 AM
Yea, it would definetly be better to have one belt in each weight, but it will never happen
Rollo
10-15-2007, 07:13 AM
of course he is right. but saying this stuff is like saying "oxygen is good for you"!

i mean come on.........no need to state the fuckin obvious!!!

:good
ThePlugInBabies
10-15-2007, 07:14 AM
the sky is blue!!
jimmy1991
10-15-2007, 07:17 AM
of course he is right. but saying this stuff is like saying "oxygen is good for you"!

i mean come on.........no need to state the fuckin obvious!!!
you dont ave to ave a say then iam just bored
SteveO
10-15-2007, 08:34 AM
Good idea, but nearly impossible. Can't put the other organizations out of business unless they actually get caught for their crooked deeds.

Here's to hoping they will.
jsimps
10-15-2007, 08:41 AM
In the Diaz fight, the old lady in the ring was holding a green wbc belt and it had "youth" inscribided on it? Other than that it looked the same as the regular belt. What the hell is that?
mike464
10-15-2007, 08:41 AM
There are three world champs in each weight class. We don't count IBO, WBO and WBU titles. It's still two too many though.
guncho
10-15-2007, 08:52 AM
lets just all start to recognize one belt like IBF! Lets just don't give a f*ck about WBC;WBA:WBO

And i'm not even talking about IBo IBO WBF

You will see if IBF will be the belt then everybody will want to fight for it!
mike464
10-15-2007, 08:57 AM
lets just all start to recognize one belt like IBF! Lets just don't give a f*ck about WBC;WBA:WBO

And i'm not even talking about IBo IBO WBF

You will see if IBF will be the belt then everybody will want to fight for it!That's what I have always thought. Although we should pick the oldest belt not the IBF. Anyway, a good start would be to stop recognizing the Micky Mouse belts like WBU and WBO.
guncho
10-15-2007, 09:12 AM
That's what I have always thought. Although we should pick the oldest belt not the IBF. Anyway, a good start would be to stop recognizing the Micky Mouse belts like WBU and WBO.

my point was not about oldest belt! It could even be WBF belt who gives a f**C what belt it is the moust important is to have real champion only one!

That would be funny if we would ignore all belts exept WBF and then klitschko and others will start to target that belt as they would like to prove that they are the best!:D
jsimps
10-15-2007, 09:26 AM
That's the WBC Youth Title, no joke!!!!

That's crazy. Do you have to be under 14 to win it or just look young enough? Those types of belts make boxing less credible. It's a shame.
Rollo
10-15-2007, 09:53 AM
That's the WBC Youth Title, no joke!!!!


OMG, there´s a youth belt too.........:patsch
sthomas
10-15-2007, 09:59 AM
Nobody here has mentioned any solutions!. This is the free market gone wild. We need to get the major federal governments to unite and come up with a once and for all champion for each weight class. A United Nations of championship boxing! John McCain where are you???? The most laughable part is the champions of one ABC organization are rarely recognized by the other organizations. In August, the WBA did not have Klitschko ranked! Same with the WBC or the IBF. At least the IBO ranks the other ABC beltholders. Boxing Counties unite for One True Champion for each division.
thewoo
10-15-2007, 10:03 AM
It pisses me off all the worl champs out there. this is what i think one of the biggest problems with boxing, look at ufc they dont ave 5 world champs in one weight class. they should all go get fucked or just combine to make one world champinship 4 each class:twisted:

UFC as an orginization only has one champion, But MMA as a sport just like boxing has multiple orginizations. There is UFC, Pride, Elite XC and a bunch of others, all with their own champions. That last UFC event was a unification of the UFC and Pride fighting light heavyweight championship.
Marnoff
10-15-2007, 10:08 AM
We already know this.
codeman99998
10-15-2007, 10:10 AM
Lol, as if the UFC is the haven where everyone knows who the champion is?

MMA is bigger than the UFC, just like boxing is bigger than the WBO or Golden Boy Promotions. Is Randy Couture the best HW in the world, or Fedor Emelianenko? Who is the MMA Lightweight champion (and think twice about it before you say Sean Sherk)?

There aren't AS many problems in MMA, perhaps, but it aint perfect either.
mike464
10-15-2007, 10:27 AM
my point was not about oldest belt! It could even be WBF belt who gives a f**C what belt it is the moust important is to have real champion only one!

That would be funny if we would ignore all belts exept WBF and then klitschko and others will start to target that belt as they would like to prove that they are the best!:DI know what your point was but may as well choose to recognise the oldest belt.
africandawg
10-15-2007, 10:31 AM
You know- this complicated belt story all started when GOD created man-----check out some of the animals---U do'nt get a WBA or WBC lion---theres only 1 and he's the boss of the pride--he fought all comers to be number 1-----unfortunately everything man touches turns to shit!!!!!
ced888
10-15-2007, 10:32 AM
Boxing is more of a true world sport. UFC is a league sport.
Asterion
10-15-2007, 10:45 AM
The Ring belt is the only one that matters, the closest to the Lineal Title.

I completely ignore the other pseudo-belts.
jsimps
10-15-2007, 10:56 AM
IMO, the wbc seems to have more name recognition and is one of the better organizations at its ranking systems.
ThePlugInBabies
10-15-2007, 10:59 AM
IMO, the wbc seems to have more name recognition and is one of the better organizations at its ranking systems.

i take it you haven't been paying attention then to the fucking farce that are the WBC heavyweight rankings.
jsimps
10-15-2007, 11:02 AM
i take it you haven't been paying attention then to the fucking farce that are the WBC heavyweight rankings.

I guess not..
TBooze
10-15-2007, 11:10 AM
The Ring belt is the only one that matters, the closest to the Lineal Title.

I completely ignore the other pseudo-belts.

The ultimate psuedo title would be the lineal title.;)
jimmy1991
10-15-2007, 05:32 PM
That's the WBC Youth Title, no joke!!!!
see this is why i posted this, a youth title thats dum why dont the make a over 40 title to
jimmy1991
10-15-2007, 05:36 PM
MMA will soon have the same problems boxing does with multiple "world championships" and heres why.

It's all about the Promoters. And the Networks. Look at HBO and Showtime. HBO CHAMPIONSHIP boxing, Showtime CHAMPIONSHIP boxing, even though HBO has a laughable and anal (Dont get too excited El Rey) view of talking about the titles, never mentioning the WBC, or the WBA ect on a broadcast. Yet, they know that they only want title fights on HBOPPV. If you are a promoter, you need Championship Gold, whether to sell a massive fight, like PBF-DLH, with the WBC title on the line, and 50 Cent holding all the gold, or if you are a small time promoter, putting together some fights on the Reservation's Casino, if you have "Boxing Tonite" no one shows, but you put "Championship Boxing" on the marquee for the IBFNAA Title, people want to see the local favorite parading around with the belt. :hat
yer thats a good point
jimmy1991
10-15-2007, 05:41 PM
Lol, as if the UFC is the haven where everyone knows who the champion is?

MMA is bigger than the UFC, just like boxing is bigger than the WBO or Golden Boy Promotions. Is Randy Couture the best HW in the world, or Fedor Emelianenko? Who is the MMA Lightweight champion (and think twice about it before you say Sean Sherk)?

There aren't AS many problems in MMA, perhaps, but it aint perfect either.
yer couldnt name one ufc fighter, but what iam saying is it would b eazyer 4 people to notice the world champ if there was one , or to b able to call your self the world champ if u where the only one 4 that weight class.
stuistylee
10-15-2007, 06:52 PM
some of the heavyweights these days make me wonder if we need mothershipweight class...thats not a compliment
joshrulesinc
10-18-2007, 12:39 PM
So whats the most credible belt out there, i usually go off the ring title they seem the most neutral when ranking.
Darien
10-18-2007, 01:01 PM
The most laughable part is the champions of one ABC organization are rarely recognized by the other organizations. In August, the WBA did not have Klitschko ranked! Same with the WBC or the IBF. At least the IBO ranks the other ABC beltholders. Boxing Counties unite for One True Champion for each division.
Look at those rankings again. Do you see any WBA, WBO or IBF champs on the WBC rankings? Or WBC, WBA or IBF beltholders on the WBO rankings? No you don't. It's because the big 4 has an agreement to recognize eachother's titleholders as champions so they don't rank them. The IBO is not a major title and is not recognized by the top 4. They have a computerized ranking system (a much better one than the boxrec crap) and they rank the top 100 fighters in each division (only the top 50 below 118lbs) regardless of what strap they wear.