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ravtrav
10-16-2007, 10:30 PM
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brooklyn1550
10-16-2007, 10:32 PM
Hmm..I didn't even think 147 was his best weight. If anything, he should have moved down because at 154, he will be outgunned and roughed up by the top fighters.

compukiller
10-16-2007, 10:32 PM
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He's gonna get killed against the first decent hitting 154 pounder he faces.

KILLED!!!:deal

brooklyn1550
10-16-2007, 10:35 PM
What Zab needs to do is come back down to 140 and clean house because he can rule the division for a long long time.. Why be a mediocre contender in a deep division full of killers when you can move down 7 pounds and be the King??

It's definitely no sure thing he would be king at 140, but he would fare a hell of a lot better there than at 154.

compukiller
10-16-2007, 10:35 PM
What Zab needs to do is come back down to 140 and clean house because he can rule the division for a long long time.. Why be a mediocre contender in a deep division full of killers when you can move down 7 pounds and be the King??

Malinaggi beats him at 140.

ravtrav
10-16-2007, 10:37 PM
What Zab needs to do is come back down to 140 and clean house because he can rule the division for a long long time.. Why be a mediocre contender in a deep division full of killers when you can move down 7 pounds and be the King??Thats what i was thinking. Zab just seems too small for light middleweight.

Toopretty
10-16-2007, 11:09 PM
This is psycho ....zab would have a tremendous speed advantage but he is way too small..shit, he is a small welter. WTF is the judah camp smoking crack? Zab should of never left 140. He needs to get it through his head that he is not a multi division fighter and did good at 147 but he is better suited at 140. And Zab beats Paulie up at 140.

HandsOfGold
10-16-2007, 11:09 PM
One pound over 147 is considered Junior Middleweight...his last fight, both guys weighed in 148 so it was a Junior Middleweight fight.

compukiller
10-16-2007, 11:12 PM
:rofl HOw? I like Malignaggi but can you explain why he would beat Judah?

Becuase Judah cannot knock him out. Malinaggi took Cotto's bombs for 12 rds and did not get aKO. He's tougher than Zab and much more mentally focused. As soon as Zab figures out he can't KO him, he will fold.

dragosuhail
10-16-2007, 11:17 PM
yep, while i can't see zab beating hatton because of his mental issues, he would be a top contender and dangerous to all in the divison.

going up to 154 is madness. he doesn't possess the best of chins, and his stamina is really only for 4 rounds. after that he rapidly loses steam.

as for why i feel he would not beat hatton. he isn't mentally strong. and putting him in there with a mentally strong fighter in hatton and that will spell doom for zab. once zab throws that famous uppercut and it doesn't knockout his foe, he begins to withdraw into his shell a bit.

he couldn't beat kostya so lost his skills and became 1 dimensonal. he couldn't beat cotto and was reduced to throwing ineffective jabs until he was ko'ed. floyd mayweather who isn't a big puncher at the higher divisions managed to slowly break zab judah down after the dangerous early rounds.

hatton would be all over zab like cotto was. but unlike cotto, hatton's chin is far stronger which will only make zab lose desire quicker.

zab has the physical tools but not the mental tools. it's funny how a lost to cotto was viewed in a somewhat positive light for his "warrior" image. because up until then zab never really got into the trenches. even still! he lost by ko.

hatton might get beaten by floyd mayweather, but he WONT lose to zab judah :deal

Toopretty
10-16-2007, 11:24 PM
yep, while i can't see zab beating hatton because of his mental issues, he would be a top contender and dangerous to all in the divison.

going up to 154 is madness. he doesn't possess the best of chins, and his stamina is really only for 4 rounds. after that he rapidly loses steam.

as for why i feel he would not beat hatton. he isn't mentally strong. and putting him in there with a mentally strong fighter in hatton and that will spell doom for zab. once zab throws that famous uppercut and it doesn't knockout his foe, he begins to withdraw into his shell a bit.

he couldn't beat kostya so lost his skills and became 1 dimensonal. he couldn't beat cotto and was reduced to throwing ineffective jabs until he was ko'ed. floyd mayweather who isn't a big puncher at the higher divisions managed to slowly break zab judah down after the dangerous early rounds.

hatton would be all over zab like cotto was. but unlike cotto, hatton's chin is far stronger which will only make zab lose desire quicker.

zab has the physical tools but not the mental tools. it's funny how a lost to cotto was viewed in a somewhat positive light for his "warrior" image. because up until then zab never really got into the trenches. even still! he lost by ko.

hatton might get beaten by floyd mayweather, but he WONT lose to zab judah :deal.


But as I explain..that uppercut would knock hatton out. As hatton lunges and leaps with his shots and he is open for that punch. Zab stops Hatton early.....Thats my story and I am sticking to it. I thought they should of been fought.

PATSYS
10-16-2007, 11:27 PM
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I think he should even stay at 140 so he keeps his power edge.

tays001
10-16-2007, 11:30 PM
Malinaggi beats him at 140.

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl MALI get smashed

compukiller
10-16-2007, 11:42 PM
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl MALI get smashed

Zab will fold against Malinaggi. Zab has lost to just about every upper tier fighter he has ever faced, and he will not be abale to KO Malinaggi, who will frustrate and out box Zab.

Zab, on paper, should have what it takes to beat him, but he is a mental midget.

compukiller
10-16-2007, 11:59 PM
Why would Zab fold against a non threatening puncher like Malig??

YEs Malignaggi is a slick tactician but Zab can match his skills, and on top of that, he would back it up with punching power so it's malig who needs to be worried, not Zab...

Zab doesn't fold when he's fighting featherdusters like Malig..

Looks what he did to SPinks... Malig would get spinksed...

Spinks has a win over Judah, and Zab folded against Baldo who is an average pucnher AT BEST.

Every top fighter that Judah has ever faced sees him embarassed, if not outright KTFO. Even a light puncher like Malinaggi can hurt Zab.

bigeddie27
10-17-2007, 12:06 AM
well the guys at 154 also move a hell of a lot slower. Judah definetly has the power to knock em down. Might not be as bad a move as what you guys think.

jopez707
10-17-2007, 01:17 AM
well the guys at 154 also move a hell of a lot slower. Judah definetly has the power to knock em down. Might not be as bad a move as what you guys think.

I don't think so, I dont see him dropping Forrest, Ouma, Karmazin, DlH, or Sims. In fact he might get stopped by alot of guys at 154. AT 140, he could definitely grab a belt, I would favor him over everybody except maybe HAtton. And we don't really know what HAtton will do after the Mayweather fight, so the division might be wide open. He has already beaten the 2nd best jr. welterweight (Witter), a rematch would be interesting.

magnificentdave
10-17-2007, 01:22 AM
sometimes moving down and getting as small as you can isn't good for your career, or guarantee that you will be stronger or more effective at the given weight, a lot of times fighters have moved up and done better at a higher weight, cory spinks is a good example of a fighter with a questionable chin who moved up in weight to light middle and middle and has yet to get his chin checked

carebearlau
10-17-2007, 01:43 AM
if cory spinks can stand in there with jermain taylor at 160, zab would be fine at 154

maciek4
10-17-2007, 02:36 AM
Zab is shot from the beatings he took from Tszyue, Mayweather,Baldomir and especially Cotto. Malignagi would win a UD and probably would knock him down in the process. Hatton would knock him out with a body shot.

achillesthegreat
10-17-2007, 03:26 AM
With the depth at 147 its a good idea. Plus there are beatable fighters at 154.