ufc fighter vs boxing?

[tampa]

With all this talk about ufc taking over. which i beleive is bullshit.
boxing is a great sport nothing can take its place.
do you beleive its just a media hype.maybe down the road will start watching ufc fighting champs take on Boxing champs. with fair rules.

ufc gloves take downs allowed
boxing ring.

[Beebs]

If its mma rules, the mma fighter takes it. Simple

[codeman99998]

It's dumb to make a new fucking thread about this when there already is one.

[boxingcar]

How come these types of threads keep poping up?

[Amsterdam]

If its mma rules, the mma fighter takes it. Simple

And if he goes full force, the boxer may be out of service for a long damn time.:lol:

[GOLDENGLOVES27e]

fuck that....put the best boxer in his devision against ufc the same....boxer would win hands down....with the gloves that ufc fighters wear....put those on aboxer and he would no joke kill the ufc fighter.

[Sweet Pea]

fuck that....put the best boxer in his devision against ufc the same....boxer would win hands down....with the gloves that ufc fighters wear....put those on aboxer and he would no joke kill the ufc fighter.You actually expect the MMA fighter to try and box with the boxer rather than take him down and out of his element?

[GOLDENGLOVES27e]

either way the boxer is gonna catch the ufc fighter with a hit and thats gonna be it.......if u like ufc then why are u here?...read the url

[Sweet Pea]

either way the boxer is gonna catch the ufc fighter with a hit and thats gonna be it.......if u like ufc then why are u here?...read the urlThere is an MMA Forum on this very website, I don't recall anyone making a rule that you weren't allowed to watch MMA as well as boxing.

But if you're ignorant and foolish enough to believe a boxer would just "catch" an MMA fighter every time, even when a wrestler shoots for their legs(kinda hard to react and land a decent punch in that situation eh?) then I'll end this conversation now.

[GOLDENGLOVES27e]

are u an mma fighter? ill fight u

[jecxbox]

Boxing, Muay Thai, Juijitsu

IMO the best art forms. Anyone that doesn't respect each one equally is an idiot.

[El Puma]

are u an mma fighter? ill fight u:-(:-(:-(:-(You prettyfat, and ListonTyson should hang out.

[Atritionist]

They cannot be compared. I'm a fan of all combat sports, Boxing is the basis of all martial arts. but u cant throw in boxer against MMA fighters with their rules and expect them to win and vice versa.

[Sweet Pea]

are u an mma fighter? ill fight u:lol: I'm sure you will. Listen, I'm not about to start an internet war with the next Zelenoff, but it's obvious you don't know the first thing about MMA or all out, one on one combat if you think all you need is boxing. Boxing is a great sport(the best, I prefer it to MMA), but it's just that, a sport, and a much more limited one than MMA. You're delusional if you think otherwise.

[PopeJackson]

With all this talk about ufc taking over. which i beleive is bullshit.
boxing is a great sport nothing can take its place.
do you beleive its just a media hype.maybe down the road will start watching ufc fighting champs take on Boxing champs. with fair rules.

ufc gloves take downs allowed
boxing ring.

I hope that never happens. I find MMA to be boring and don't want any boxers to give those folks the time of day.

[karatekid530]

its 2 different sports. put a sprinter(boxer) and a tri-athlete(MMA) together in a triathlon('fair', MMA rules) and the sprinter might outrun(box) the triathlete but in the other 2 aspects gets blown the fuck out and would lose no doubt.

[ufoalf]

sigh...

[Factotum]

either way the boxer is gonna catch the ufc fighter with a hit and thats gonna be it.......if u like ufc then why are u here?...read the url

I became a fan of boxing through MMA actually. Historically boxers have done pretty poor in MMA as they can't wrestle. To throw a good punch you have to plant your feet which leaves you open to a takedown unless you have a great sprawl or good enough wrestling/ jiu jitsu to get back up once you're put on your back.

If all you needed to be sucessful in MMA was good boxing, MMA would be dominated by golden gloves champs looking to make some great cash. Boxing is a very small peice of the puzzle in MMA. Even the boxing stance changes to a more square stance to account for leg kicks and to minimize the ease at which your opponent can snag single leg takedowns.

Apples and Oranges my friend.

[mofo2]

Mines the same answer as last week and the week before lol

[Nuke]

I don't even have the energy to discuss this topic anymore.

[ufoalf]

Mines the same answer as last week and the week before lol

Nice avatar. Best ref. Too bad he's too old.

[Polymath]

Did this get moved from the general forum? Who are all the noobs posting recycled crap? Delete thread please

[Dynamite Kid]

fuck that....put the best boxer in his devision against ufc the same....boxer would win hands down....with the gloves that ufc fighters wear....put those on aboxer and he would no joke kill the ufc fighter.


A boxer would get his legs kicked off:lol: Boxers are used to wearing BOXING gloves NOT MMA gloves. The moves they use in boxing to pick off punches DON'T APPLY in MMA. A boxer would get murdered:-(

[younghypnotiq]

are u an mma fighter? ill fight u

were do u live u fucking pussy. ill fight u an murder ur bitchass u come to NYC and i wil fucking kil u

[Wilhelm]

were do u live u fucking pussy. ill fight u an murder ur bitchass u come to NYC and i wil fucking kil u

:lol:

[Polymath]

were do u live u fucking pussy. ill fight u an murder ur bitchass u come to NYC and i wil fucking kil u

be careful man he carries a gun an shit

[karatekid530]

be careful man he carries a gun an shit

eh, younghypno KO1. i guarantee his wrestling would win the fight

[karatekid530]

such a standard response. you dont realize how rare the north/south guard is in a MMA fight and it usually doesnt last very long.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

either way the boxer is gonna catch the ufc fighter with a hit and thats gonna be it.......if u like ufc then why are u here?...read the url
Stop being retarded. Only pathetic simple minded individuals are too stupid to realize that you can like both MMA and Boxing. It isn't as if you can only be a fan of one or the other. I happen to be a huge fan of both sports. At the top level of each sport. In a boxing match, the boxer wins. In an MMA fight, the MMA fighter wins. That's it. Those facts don't mean you have to choose just one sport to be a fan of. Most people here actually like all combat sports, not just boxing.

[sugarngold]

With all this talk about ufc taking over. which i beleive is bullshit.
boxing is a great sport nothing can take its place.
do you beleive its just a media hype.maybe down the road will start watching ufc fighting champs take on Boxing champs. with fair rules.

ufc gloves take downs allowed
boxing ring.
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[elixirvtec]

a kick boxer owns boxing. It has already been done many times. Think of it this way. When you come into a fight you bring your weapons. A boxer only has his hands. A MMA fighter has, Hands, Knees, Elbow. Legs. ETC. Boxer comes into war with just guns(pistols). A MMA figher comes with GUN, shot guns, rifles, Gernades, bazookas. Just think about it. Who would win the fight.

[Factotum]

Stop being retarded. Only pathetic simple minded individuals are too stupid to realize that you can like both MMA and Boxing. It isn't as if you can only be a fan of one or the other. I happen to be a huge fan of both sports. At the top level of each sport. In a boxing match, the boxer wins. In an MMA fight, the MMA fighter wins. That's it. Those facts don't mean you have to choose just one sport to be a fan of. Most people here actually like all combat sports, not just boxing.

Excellent fucking post. I agree completely. Although I started watching MMA first after meeting tank abbot at a bar in Huntington Beach and talking to him about his upcoming fight in the "ultimate Fighting show" that I had no idea about at the time I decided to watch and became an instant fan. From There my love of combat sports grew and I started watching boxing and now even train in boxing several times a week.

I love both sports and frankly I wouln't want it any other way. Gives me more great fights to enjoy with top level athletes. I think the die hard boxing fans should give MMA an honest shot and die hard MMAers should give boxing a fair shot and see the great aspects of both sports IMMHO.

If boxing and MMA continue to put back to back cards together ala showtime popularity for both sports could do great things for the future of every athlete involved.

[AmericanSugar]

a mma fight starts on their feet. yes, boxers have made the transition to mma, however these fighters were not elite or were not in their prime. i've seen terrible striking from the very best mma stars, and an elite boxer would have a field day. take an elite boxer and an elite mma fighter, i would put my money on the boxer.

[Beebs]

a mma fight starts on their feet. yes, boxers have made the transition to mma, however these fighters were not elite or were not in their prime. i've seen terrible striking from the very best mma stars, and an elite boxer would have a field day. take an elite boxer and an elite mma fighter, i would put my money on the boxer.

How about a HW who just fought for the title getting rape choked?

sAIgNhVT3Zs

Being a better boxer will do absolutely no good, he is already 1000x times the better boxer, boxing just is not nearly preparation for a fight period.

[sugarngold]

How about a HW who just fought for the title getting rape choked?

sAIgNhVT3Zs

Being a better boxer will do absolutely no good, he is already 1000x times the better boxer, boxing just is not nearly preparation for a fight period.

Great example, Beebs. Thanks for the link.

[AmericanSugar]

that is a terrible example. i said elite boxer. no elite boxer has ever crossed over to mma.

[Sweet Pea]

that is a terrible example. i said elite boxer. no elite boxer has ever crossed over to mma.The fact still remains that they have not nearly enough skill in other aspects to transition, nor the balls to put their rep on the line. They would get massacred under MMA rules, you act as if the MMA fighter would stand and opt to box with them, how foolish can you be? Either way, Anderson would handle a boxer on the feet overall, just not if he opted to box only.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Excellent fucking post. I agree completely. Although I started watching MMA first after meeting tank abbot at a bar in Huntington Beach and talking to him about his upcoming fight in the "ultimate Fighting show" that I had no idea about at the time I decided to watch and became an instant fan. From There my love of combat sports grew and I started watching boxing and now even train in boxing several times a week.

I love both sports and frankly I wouln't want it any other way. Gives me more great fights to enjoy with top level athletes. I think the die hard boxing fans should give MMA an honest shot and die hard MMAers should give boxing a fair shot and see the great aspects of both sports IMMHO.

If boxing and MMA continue to put back to back cards together ala showtime popularity for both sports could do great things for the future of every athlete involved.
:good

[Beebs]

that is a terrible example. i said elite boxer. no elite boxer has ever crossed over to mma.

If fighting for a HW title isn't enough then theres maybe 10 guys in the world who could make the transition according to you, so whats the point? And He didn't just loose, he got rape choked, in a minute.

The point is no amount of boxing skill could have stopped that, you have to earn the ability to box in mma with the ability to stop a takedown, the ability to get back up, instilling the fear of going to the ground with you because your submission game is so good, NONE of these things are learned through boxing. You could have a billion times the skill of SRR, SRL, and Floyd Mayweather combined and it wouldn't matter, you can not use it against somebody not willing to let you without at least some of the other three, no amount of improvement in boxing would have helped skelton.

[coog]

Haven't we had this conversation before? I do not think some of you people understand that MMA and Boxing are sports, different rules, different games. They are both combat sports which is they only thing that they have in common. People used to ask who would win a karate guy or a boxer, it depends On the two individuals and the rules. Some of you also do not really understand the striking philosophy of MMA A Boxer cannot stand and jab in MMA. A Boxer would have to move constantly and give a lot of angles and never risk a trade of punches for fear of the leg strike or being grabbed and held and taken down or a knee he couldn't clinch when someone got close. He couldn't rest at all. Actually there are a few good boxers with a martial arts background vitali Klitschko is one and vlad has a similiar background but not as much martial arts as boxing. I could teach a man to defend himself with boxing in a few months but it takes years to learn wrestling. I believe that there are several mma guys if they wanted to pursue just a boxing career they could do well. anderson silva, GSP, andre arlovskie as a matter of fact I think that Arlovskie should have boxed he would make a dynamite heavy weight.

[coog]

I forgot about Cung Le

[amhlilhaus]

Boxing, Muay Thai, Juijitsu

IMO the best art forms. Anyone that doesn't respect each one equally is an idiot.

you forgot wrestling

[LiamE]

a kick boxer owns boxing. It has already been done many times. Think of it this way. When you come into a fight you bring your weapons. A boxer only has his hands. A MMA fighter has, Hands, Knees, Elbow. Legs. ETC. Boxer comes into war with just guns(pistols). A MMA figher comes with GUN, shot guns, rifles, Gernades, bazookas. Just think about it. Who would win the fight.

Who would win? The guy that shoots accurately first.

[LiamE]

such a standard response. you dont realize how rare the north/south guard is in a MMA fight and it usually doesnt last very long.

Do they give it up when one guys finishes then?

[Action]

There is too much money to be made with a Roy Jones vs Anderson Silva fight for it to not happen. As soon as Silva's contract is up with the UFC that fight will occur. Silva can make more in that one fight with RJJ than he can fighting the duration of his contract with the UFC.
Then all of the yawns and sighs in these forums regarding MMA vs boxing will change their song and it will become THE hot topic of discussion. Until then we can enjoy both sports individually.

[El Matador]

I'd like to see Fedor Emelianko try and take down "The Russian Giant" Nicolai Valuev.

Not that I doubt he could, I'm just saying it would be a hellavu circus, to see "The Russian Giant" try his hand in MMA.

[coog]

Valuev may not be able to beat Fedor in a pure striking match.

[coog]

I didn't forget wrestling, I mentioned that it is easier to become effective in boxing than wrestling. I have coached wrestling as well as karate. People that box really donot understand wrestlers at all. They think that they will just walk out there and hit someone and they will fall down. they donot realize that wrestlers have footwork and strategies as well. We haven't heard anymore talk about PBF going into MMA have we.

[El Matador]

Valuev may not be able to beat Fedor in a pure striking match.
I've seen Valuev live (in Chicago)- the guy has a couple of things going for him, obviously he's huge and tall, but he's strong and has sound technique. Not a huge puncher, but a good one.

Problem is he's slow, sometimes plodding and doesn't throw combinations enough.

So saying Fedor might even take him in a striking match is not unreasonable (especially if he's alowed to kick, which would spell the end for Valuev).

But Valuev is a TALL order for anyone!!!:D

[Beebs]

Look what Choi has done in K1, Choi is basically Valuev with none of the timing or skill, he entered K1 with no real experience in any striking art at all; Valuev would do alot better than Choi.

[Smirf]

boxer wins standup...mma artist wins ground

[sugarngold]

There is too much money to be made with a Roy Jones vs Anderson Silva fight for it to not happen. As soon as Silva's contract is up with the UFC that fight will occur. Silva can make more in that one fight with RJJ than he can fighting the duration of his contract with the UFC.
Then all of the yawns and sighs in these forums regarding MMA vs boxing will change their song and it will become THE hot topic of discussion. Until then we can enjoy both sports individually.

Kudos for an excellent post. :good:good:good

[codeman99998]

boxer wins standup...mma artist wins ground

Depends on the MMA fighter and your definition of "standup".

I would imagine Anderson Silva beats any LHW boxer in a pure standup striking match. Let's see RJJ defend the plum.

[Sweet Pea]

Valuev may not be able to beat Fedor in a pure striking match.:lol:

[birddog]

This shit is so old. The two sports have such different rules and requirements as there is no point to it.

Only solution is to go back to UFC 1, or some other no holds bared type fighting. Which would never be sanctioned.

So that leaves;

It could happen on an island somewhere or in some mountains, financed by some industrialist or evil drug / arms dealer. Or maybe a secret society fighting in basements or warehouses, that's the ticket, maybe even to the death.

Hmm hasn't this been in a movie or twelve, btw the good guy wins.

[birddog]

As for RJJ v Silva being big money I don't see it.

It's a sidehow type deal. No way Roy is going to fight without boxing rules. He can make more against any top standing LH, without the risk of a freak loss to any mma guy.

The math just doesn't work.

[birddog]

Depends on the MMA fighter and your definition of "standup".

I would imagine Anderson Silva beats any LHW boxer in a pure standup striking match. Let's see RJJ defend the plum.

Okay then let him fight them, you expect Silva to beat any current top ten lhw? He see money in RJJ's name obviously, but do you really think he can beat a top ten LHW, boxing rules.

[JBones]

ask anderson silva or dana white :rofl:rofl

[Beebs]

Okay then let him fight them, you expect Silva to beat any current top ten lhw? He see money in RJJ's name obviously, but do you really think he can beat a top ten LHW, boxing rules.

He said "standup" not boxing, which would include different kickboxing rulesets like Muay Thai and Shootboxing.

If Silva is allowed to kick, clinch, elbow, and knee he would probably injure RJJ to the point of ending his career. A hard kick to a leg with all its weight planted on somebody who isn't familiar with how to check them can do serious damage to the knee.