View Full Version : How Heavy is your Heavybag
Ethan Trims
10-18-2007, 12:03 PM
And how heavy and tall are you?
I am personally around 6 foot and weight around 160-5. My bag weighs about 115. Around june I had a 40 pound bag and gradually added sand to it.
JMonster
10-18-2007, 04:38 PM
5'10"/11" 130 lbs. 80 or 100 pound bag.
viru§™
10-18-2007, 05:12 PM
5'10"/11" 130 lbs. 80 or 100 pound bag.
Eat food. Boxer or not, that's way underweight.
MagnificentMatt
10-18-2007, 05:42 PM
Eat food. Boxer or not, that's way underweight.
Yeah, 5'11 at 130 sounds kind of unhealthy..
josak
10-18-2007, 08:09 PM
5'10"/11" 130 lbs. 80 or 100 pound bag.
damn and I thought I was skinny (same height, 150lbs).
gallagher430
10-18-2007, 09:13 PM
Im 145 5'6 or 7', I don't have a bag of my own, but always like the heaviest bag at my gym.
Peterp
10-19-2007, 03:33 AM
mine is 50 kg which is around 120 pounds i think. It's a full length one for boxing and Kickboxing
silvy_chris
10-19-2007, 08:47 AM
i just reach 6'2 and weigh 66 - 68kg
Filmnpuck
10-19-2007, 11:09 AM
Eat food. Boxer or not, that's way underweight.
Hey, it happens. I'm about 5'9'' and 125. Trust me, I eat more than enough. Some people's metabolism's are off the charts. I try hard as hell to gain weight and I swear it's just not going to happen. Funny thing is, I eat properly and work out regularly, so I look healthy. Most of my friends are shocked to hear my weight, even if they've seen me without a shirt.
I used to weigh about 10 pounds more, and then I moved into the city, where I walk everywhere (also the same time that I got rid of junk from my diet).... a year later I found myself ten pounds lighter.
I seriously believe a huge part of it is that I've never been a big drinker. Seems that I had a lot of friends about 5-6 years ago who were about my size, then we all went off to college, they drank themselves stupid, and now they've put on a lot of excess weight.
5'9" at 150 pounds. I don't have a bag myself, the one I use at the gym is probably about 100 pounds.
viru§™
10-19-2007, 11:32 AM
Hey, it happens. I'm about 5'9'' and 125. Trust me, I eat more than enough. Some people's metabolism's are off the charts. I try hard as hell to gain weight and I swear it's just not going to happen.
I've heard this so many times, it's such a poor excuse. When I asked the last guy who claimed he eats everything in sight and doesn't gain weight what he eats on an average day he told me:
"Um, well, I skip breakfast, go to Mcdonalds for dinner then later on the night I'll eat some chicken and something"
You obviuosly don't eat "more than enough" if you don't gain weight. Post your daily diet and we'll see.
I've heard this so many times, it's such a poor excuse. When I asked the last guy who claimed he eats everything in sight and doesn't gain weight what he eats on an average day he told me:
"Um, well, I skip breakfast, go to Mcdonalds for dinner then later on the night I'll eat some chicken and something"
You obviuosly don't eat "more than enough" if you don't gain weight. Post your daily diet and we'll see.
I agree. About half the people claiming it are smokers on top of having a shit diet.
lefty
10-19-2007, 01:09 PM
my bag is 500 pounds. You should feel my power bitches
Filmnpuck
10-19-2007, 05:22 PM
I agree. About half the people claiming it are smokers on top of having a shit diet.
I definitely don't smoke.
All I know is that I feel that I eat enough (and my diet isn't shit) and this weight feels natural to me. I'm not saying that I'm not thin, all I'm saying is that it's unfair to automatically label someone unhealthy just because the dude said he was 5'10'' and 130.
Filmnpuck
10-19-2007, 05:34 PM
I decided to check out at what point someone is officially deemed underweight, because I wasn't sure. According to the Wikipedia entry for "underweight," ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) underweight is usually classified as having a BMI of 18.5 or less, always give or take, depending on the person. Normal can be anywhere from 18.5 to 25. According to the chart provided there, I'm at exactly 18.5. So is JMonster. We're borderline, but assuming we're eating well and exercising, I think we could both be considered healthy.
I know Wikipedia isn't exactly a fool-proof source. I'm interested in hearing what others feel about this.
viru§™
10-19-2007, 05:46 PM
I decided to check out at what point someone is officially deemed underweight, because I wasn't sure. According to the Wikipedia entry for "underweight," ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) underweight is usually classified as having a BMI of 18.5 or less, always give or take, depending on the person. Normal can be anywhere from 18.5 to 25. According to the chart provided there, I'm at exactly 18.5. So is JMonster. We're borderline, but assuming we're eating well and exercising, I think we could both be considered healthy.
I know Wikipedia isn't exactly a fool-proof source. I'm interested in hearing what others feel about this.
BMI is complete and utter bollox. If we went by BMI nearly all bodybuilders would be listed as obese. The thing doesn't take body fat levels into account which is stupid and wrong.
Filmnpuck
10-19-2007, 05:50 PM
I've heard this so many times, it's such a poor excuse. When I asked the last guy who claimed he eats everything in sight and doesn't gain weight what he eats on an average day he told me:
"Um, well, I skip breakfast, go to Mcdonalds for dinner then later on the night I'll eat some chicken and something"
You obviuosly don't eat "more than enough" if you don't gain weight. Post your daily diet and we'll see.
Okay, I've never been a calorie counter, so maybe you're right. (Although I don't skip breakfast or eat fast food.) I'll try and post what I consider a typical day of eating, as my schedule is constantly changing.
Breakfast: Bowl of shredded wheat or oatmeal (oatmeal if it's cold, shredded wheat if it's hot). Some berries in with the cereal or oatmeal. Banana. Glass of this "Green Plant Juice" from Trader Joe's.
Sometime before lunch: I try to make sure I always have some hard-boiled eggs on hand and I'll eat one as a snack. If I don't have any, then a granola bar, protein bar, some nuts, pita and hummas, apple, anything to kind of keep me going.
Lunch: PB&J on whole-wheat bread. Good helping of non-fat cottage cheese. Usually another piece of fruit. A glass of chocolate soy milk (because I think it's delicious) if I have some on hand. Other kinds of sandwhiches work their way in the rotation as well.
Sometime before dinner: Some sort of snack like the one mentioned above.
Dinner: Varies. A lot of times I'll make a salad with Romaine lettuce, a whole tomato, bunch of carrots, Feta cheese (regular), Balsamic vinegarette dressing, and a chicken breast chopped up in there. But a lot of times I like to make a huge amount of something hearty that I can just heat up and keep on hand for a few days, like lasagna with whole-grain noodles, Chili, etc.
Dessert: Cup of berries, cup of Kashi Crunch cereal, cup of yogurt swirled together. Delicious.
Looking at this list, you're definitely right in that I could eat more. I probably wouldn't need much more to put me over the top. I've been thinking about just biting the bullet and buying some whey powder and adding one of those per day to my diet, but I'd prefer to do it naturally.
viru§™
10-19-2007, 05:53 PM
I definitely don't smoke.
All I know is that I feel that I eat enough (and my diet isn't shit) and this weight feels natural to me. I'm not saying that I'm not thin, all I'm saying is that it's unfair to automatically label someone unhealthy just because the dude said he was 5'10'' and 130.
I'm just saying I've never met a girl who finds it attractive that you both can share clothes :D Seriously though, I don't see why you would want to be that thin, I mean it gives you no advantages in life... EAT.
Filmnpuck
10-19-2007, 05:54 PM
BMI is complete and utter bollox. If we went by BMI nearly all bodybuilders would be listed as obese. The thing doesn't take body fat levels into account which is stupid and wrong.
Okay, point noted, but that's why it allows for exceptions.
Besides, by reversing your logic, you could just as easily say that it's bullocks because all marathon runners would be listed as underweight or starvation. Just because someone comes in UNDER a certain weight doesn't mean that they're unhealthy anymore than someone who comes in OVER a certain weight is unhealthy.
Filmnpuck
10-19-2007, 05:56 PM
I'm just saying I've never met a girl who finds it attractive that you both can share clothes :D Seriously though, I don't see why you would want to be that thin, I mean it gives you no advantages in life... EAT.
Whatever. I do just fine with girls without your help, thanks.
viru§™
10-19-2007, 06:08 PM
Okay, I've never been a calorie counter, so maybe you're right. (Although I don't skip breakfast or eat fast food.) I'll try and post what I consider a typical day of eating, as my schedule is constantly changing.
Breakfast: Bowl of shredded wheat or oatmeal (oatmeal if it's cold, shredded wheat if it's hot). Some berries in with the cereal or oatmeal. Banana. Glass of this "Green Plant Juice" from Trader Joe's.
Sometime before lunch: I try to make sure I always have some hard-boiled eggs on hand and I'll eat one as a snack. If I don't have any, then a granola bar, protein bar, some nuts, pita and hummas, apple, anything to kind of keep me going.
Lunch: PB&J on whole-wheat bread. Good helping of non-fat cottage cheese. Usually another piece of fruit. A glass of chocolate soy milk (because I think it's delicious) if I have some on hand. Other kinds of sandwhiches work their way in the rotation as well.
Sometime before dinner: Some sort of snack like the one mentioned above.
Dinner: Varies. A lot of times I'll make a salad with Romaine lettuce, a whole tomato, bunch of carrots, Feta cheese (regular), Balsamic vinegarette dressing, and a chicken breast chopped up in there. But a lot of times I like to make a huge amount of something hearty that I can just heat up and keep on hand for a few days, like lasagna with whole-grain noodles, Chili, etc.
Dessert: Cup of berries, cup of Kashi Crunch cereal, cup of yogurt swirled together. Delicious.
Looking at this list, you're definitely right in that I could eat more. I probably wouldn't need much more to put me over the top. I've been thinking about just biting the bullet and buying some whey powder and adding one of those per day to my diet, but I'd prefer to do it naturally.
I'm sure I'm missing some stuff out but I used to eat this in an average day:
Bowl of Oatmeal
2x Bananas
2˝ Litres milk
2x 50g Cashew nuts
Orange
3x Tuna sandwiches with lettuce (65g tuna per sandwich)
Fruit and nut bar
3x Protein shakes
Apple
500g Chicken
Lettuce
50g Cheese
250g Yogurt
viru§™
10-19-2007, 06:14 PM
Okay, point noted, but that's why it allows for exceptions.
Besides, by reversing your logic, you could just as easily say that it's bullocks because all marathon runners would be listed as underweight or starvation. Just because someone comes in UNDER a certain weight doesn't mean that they're unhealthy anymore than someone who comes in OVER a certain weight is unhealthy.
I wouldn't list a marathon runner as healthy, and yes, I would list most as underweight. Being able to run 25 miles does not make you healthy.
I don't see how filmnpuck is unhealthly. if he exercises and eats well, he's fine. some stuff is just genetic
I'm 5-9/10 and 140 give or take, with a 100 lb. bag. that may seem skinny to some, but I'm young and have a very fast metabolism. I eat healthy, and enough, and even have gone on small streaks of pigging out (past vacations, only a week or so) with little exercise, and no extra lbs. or fat to show for it.
there's this thing called a 'set point'....learned it in psych....it's your natural weight range and is very hard to change.
viru§™
10-19-2007, 07:17 PM
there's this thing called a 'set point'....learned it in psych....it's your natural weight range and is very hard to change.
Who told you this? It sounds like BS to me. Give a link to some info, I've never heard of it.
Who told you this? It sounds like BS to me. Give a link to some info, I've never heard of it.
a published textbook. I could get the name and author(s), if you want.
Lostmykeys
10-19-2007, 08:10 PM
Who told you this? It sounds like BS to me. Give a link to some info, I've never heard of it.
They teach the same thing at my school
But half the stuff at my school is bullshit anyways.
viru§™
10-19-2007, 08:53 PM
As if it’s not hard enough to lose weight and keep it off, now we know that many of us must contend with battling our "set point" too. The set point theory was introduced by a group of researchers in 1982. The basic premise of the theory is that the body has a built in weight regulating mechanism, largely genetically determined, that will tend to keep your weight in a physiologically established comfortable range. Many dieters contend with trying to drop weight beyond their bodies’ set point after following a healthy diet and exercise regimen for a time. Initially, for most, body weight will come off steadily and easily when following a reduced calorie diet and exercise program. However, for those of us with genetically determined set points beyond our desired weight goal, losing beyond this weight plateau can be quite challenging.
Sounds like another excuse for overweight people to me. To gain weight you eat more, to lose weight you eat less, it's as simple as that (also with the addition of exercise etc). It's easy to disprove:
Christian Bale - Machinist/Batman Begins
In 2004 (apparently in only a few months) he lost a whopping 63lbs/4.5 stone for his role as an insomniac in the machinist. his co-stars have since claimed that he was even eager to lose more weight during filming and had to be stopped by the director.
as if that wasn’t enough he then immediately had to stuff his face in order to play Batman. he gained, in the space of 6 months, a ridiculous 100lbs/7 stone! how in shit’s name do you do that? over a stone a month?! must’ve been tricky finding time to get down the gym in between shoving chicken down his gullet and sitting on the toilet.
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How is this possible if your body has it's own set weight?
radianttwilight
10-19-2007, 09:29 PM
How is this possible if your body has it's own set weight?
Just because a "set weight" exists doesn't mean you can't lose weight beyond that, especially if you crash diet (like he almost certainly was), and the fact that he put the weight back on easily SUPPORTS that claim, because it would show that his body was "eager" to return to something similar to his set point.
Look at it this way - when some boxers start training camp they weigh in at ridiculously high weights (think Vargas), but it is rather easy for them to lose weight down to a certain point, which is enough if that is under the weight limit they need to make. Some guys, though, simply CANNOT get under a certain weight without extreme measures (dehydration, partial starvation), even if that weight is considered "normal" for their height.
Example - Manny Pacquaio is 5'6" and walks into fights at 145ish. That's actually fairly heavy for a professional athlete (and boxers train harder/longer/more fully than almost any other athlete in the world). We know he struggles making 130 for weigh-ins, even with using things like saunas, dehydration, fasting, etc. I know guys who are 5'9+ and walk around at <130lbs, and they are neither training nor eating healthy. Some guys are just HEAVIER than others.
It's partially an excuse for fatasses to believe that they can't control their own weight - I don't believe that anyone's "set point" would be inside the realm of obesity, but I do believe that a person's weight tends to stabilize at a certain point, all other factors equal. It's a matter of build, really...if there was no such thing as a maximum limit for weight loss than Diego Corrales would've been a short lightweight :good instead of a ridiculously tall one.
viru§™
10-19-2007, 09:45 PM
Just because a "set weight" exists doesn't mean you can't lose weight beyond that, especially if you crash diet (like he almost certainly was), and the fact that he put the weight back on easily SUPPORTS that claim, because it would show that his body was "eager" to return to something similar to his set point.
Look at it this way - when some boxers start training camp they weigh in at ridiculously high weights (think Vargas), but it is rather easy for them to lose weight down to a certain point, which is enough if that is under the weight limit they need to make. Some guys, though, simply CANNOT get under a certain weight without extreme measures (dehydration, partial starvation), even if that weight is considered "normal" for their height.
Example - Manny Pacquaio is 5'6" and walks into fights at 145ish. That's actually fairly heavy for a professional athlete (and boxers train harder/longer/more fully than almost any other athlete in the world). We know he struggles making 130 for weigh-ins, even with using things like saunas, dehydration, fasting, etc. I know guys who are 5'9+ and walk around at <130lbs, and they are neither training nor eating healthy. Some guys are just HEAVIER than others.
It's partially an excuse for fatasses to believe that they can't control their own weight - I don't believe that anyone's "set point" would be inside the realm of obesity, but I do believe that a person's weight tends to stabilize at a certain point, all other factors equal. It's a matter of build, really...if there was no such thing as a maximum limit for weight loss than Diego Corrales would've been a short lightweight :good instead of a ridiculously tall one.
It's BS. Your body doesn't suddenly think "hmmmm I'm about 5'10" so I'd say I should weigh about 165lbs". Your weight depends on your activity level and what you eat. If you want to believe all these excuses, go ahead.
Filmnpuck
10-19-2007, 09:57 PM
It's BS. Your body doesn't suddenly think "hmmmm I'm about 5'10" so I'd say I should weigh about 165lbs". Your weight depends on your activity level and what you eat. If you want to believe all these excuses, go ahead.
It's not that hard to wrap your head around, dude. I mean, there is a lot about us that is completely locked in to genetics, such as height and eye color, skeletal structure, etc., etc. Certainly body weight is more elastic than those other features, but to say that your natural body weight doesn't have anything to do with your genetic makeup is kind of obtuse.
I mean, just take a look at your family. My dad has four brothers, and they're all built in a very similar way. Is that a coincidence? I have two brothers, and they're built similar to me. We live hundreds of miles from each other, and have undoubtedly different diets and levels of activity, yet our body types are very similar.
rodney
10-21-2007, 02:47 AM
Get a water bag ----- Powerair (from Buffalo).
80 - 90 lbs. is all you need.
Its heavy enough for anyone.
Wont hurt your hands.
You can get some real penetration, just like hitting a real person.
Be advised,
anything heavier and harder will not make you hit harder.
Ethan Trims
10-22-2007, 11:09 AM
Get a water bag ----- Powerair (from Buffalo).
80 - 90 lbs. is all you need.
Its heavy enough for anyone.
Wont hurt your hands.
You can get some real penetration, just like hitting a real person.
Be advised,
anything heavier and harder will not make you hit harder.
How did you come to this conclusion.
According to Cus D amato , the heavier the bag, the harder your muscles work and the stronger you become. Thats why tyson had around a 300 pound bag.
viru§™
10-22-2007, 11:17 AM
Get a water bag ----- Powerair (from Buffalo).
80 - 90 lbs. is all you need.
Its heavy enough for anyone.
Wont hurt your hands.
You can get some real penetration, just like hitting a real person.
Be advised,
anything heavier and harder will not make you hit harder.
BS. Added resistance (heavier bag) = increase in strength due to the muscles working harder to move a heavier load.
gallagher430
10-22-2007, 01:18 PM
I hate water bags so much, i think they're totally worthless compared to regular leather bags.
yung-gun1
10-23-2007, 08:53 PM
Okay, I've never been a calorie counter, so maybe you're right. (Although I don't skip breakfast or eat fast food.) I'll try and post what I consider a typical day of eating, as my schedule is constantly changing.
Breakfast: Bowl of shredded wheat or oatmeal (oatmeal if it's cold, shredded wheat if it's hot). Some berries in with the cereal or oatmeal. Banana. Glass of this "Green Plant Juice" from Trader Joe's.
Sometime before lunch: I try to make sure I always have some hard-boiled eggs on hand and I'll eat one as a snack. If I don't have any, then a granola bar, protein bar, some nuts, pita and hummas, apple, anything to kind of keep me going.
Lunch: PB&J on whole-wheat bread. Good helping of non-fat cottage cheese. Usually another piece of fruit. A glass of chocolate soy milk (because I think it's delicious) if I have some on hand. Other kinds of sandwhiches work their way in the rotation as well.
Sometime before dinner: Some sort of snack like the one mentioned above.
Dinner: Varies. A lot of times I'll make a salad with Romaine lettuce, a whole tomato, bunch of carrots, Feta cheese (regular), Balsamic vinegarette dressing, and a chicken breast chopped up in there. But a lot of times I like to make a huge amount of something hearty that I can just heat up and keep on hand for a few days, like lasagna with whole-grain noodles, Chili, etc.
Dessert: Cup of berries, cup of Kashi Crunch cereal, cup of yogurt swirled together. Delicious.
Looking at this list, you're definitely right in that I could eat more. I probably wouldn't need much more to put me over the top. I've been thinking about just biting the bullet and buying some whey powder and adding one of those per day to my diet, but I'd prefer to do it naturally.
If you have a fast metabolism, this isn't enough. The biggest problem I see hear is: Breakfast is supposed to be the biggest and most important meal of the day. I suggest to add about 5-8 eggs. Omelet, scrambled, whatever.
Second: You supposebly "extremely fast" metabolism, you shouldbe getting more meals and more calories. Not going to bother looking for the total calories there but I'm guessing around... 3500. This isn't bad, but I suggest eating more spread out meals, along with a meal directly before bed. Breakfast, small snacks(a fruit, some milk, and I personally have a PBJ), Lunch, 2 small Snacks, Dinner, Before bed snack. Be sure to have at least 500-1000 calories each meal, and about 25-50 carbs, around 50 for the big meals and 10-25 for the small meals. Don't exlude fat from your diets, as to be healthy you need fats.
Third: If your dedicated and really looking to gain, limit cardio. Heavy bag and speed bad, sprinting and sparring should be kept. I suggest limiting long-distance running to 1 day /week.
Forgot. Don't neglect water, which as I boxer I'm sure you dont.
rodney
01-07-2008, 11:41 PM
How did you come to this conclusion.
According to Cus D amato , the heavier the bag, the harder your muscles work and the stronger you become. Thats why tyson had around a 300 pound bag.
You get strong by exercise (not that hitting the bag isnt exercise).
The intent of hitting the bag is to develope speed/power/ and technique.
You want to be loose and relaxed so you sure that all of your energy is at the end of the punch.
When you hit the bag --- sure, you put your body into it.
Your arm is just an extension of your body.
You want to get the feeling of penetrating the bag --- just like hitting a real body.
Sharp hard penetrating punches.
You will not get that hitting a hard immovable object.
There are alot of boxers who are not that big who can hit like a mule.
I hae seen a few little guys knock out big strong guys with one shot.
Also, Powerair Fitness in Buffalo.
Get their catalogue.
They have quite an assortment of water bags --- different shapes and they go much bigger than 100 lbs and have cells in then making it more difficult to penetrate for big guys.
They best gyms are using predominantly water bags.
God Bless Cus D'amato --- but I dont believe there were water bags back then.
And remember your hands and wrists.
Take care of them or you will have big time arthritis problems by the time your 50.
Guys that say water bags are a waste of time should attach a brain to their body.
Good Luck.
rodney
01-07-2008, 11:54 PM
BS. Added resistance (heavier bag) = increase in strength due to the muscles working harder to move a heavier load.
Now what is your purpose for hitting a heavy bag.
Is it to get stronger or hit harder and develope knock out power.
If this is what you want --- then its a combinbation of speed, power, timing, and technique --- not strenght and muscles.
You want to be totally loose and relaxed so that all of your energy is at the end of the punch.
You want to hit so that it feels like you are penetrating inside the bag.
Just like hitting a person.
Powerair Fitnes in Buffalo have an assortment of water bags --- diferent shapes and sizes --- some alot bigger than 100 lbs with cells inside making it tougher for bigger guys (if thats what you are looking
for). I have see alot of big muscle guys get starched by little guys with just one shot. And of see big guys club guys all day long and they still cant put them down.
You get the picture.
Filmnpuck
01-08-2008, 12:01 AM
If you have a fast metabolism, this isn't enough. The biggest problem I see hear is: Breakfast is supposed to be the biggest and most important meal of the day. I suggest to add about 5-8 eggs. Omelet, scrambled, whatever.
Second: You supposebly "extremely fast" metabolism, you shouldbe getting more meals and more calories. Not going to bother looking for the total calories there but I'm guessing around... 3500. This isn't bad, but I suggest eating more spread out meals, along with a meal directly before bed. Breakfast, small snacks(a fruit, some milk, and I personally have a PBJ), Lunch, 2 small Snacks, Dinner, Before bed snack. Be sure to have at least 500-1000 calories each meal, and about 25-50 carbs, around 50 for the big meals and 10-25 for the small meals. Don't exlude fat from your diets, as to be healthy you need fats.
Third: If your dedicated and really looking to gain, limit cardio. Heavy bag and speed bad, sprinting and sparring should be kept. I suggest limiting long-distance running to 1 day /week.
Forgot. Don't neglect water, which as I boxer I'm sure you dont.
I realize that this is really old news, but I never read this post before and I cannot fucking believe this dude suggested that I eat 6-9 eggs per day.
truepwrz
01-08-2008, 12:55 AM
i weigh 150 at 5'11 and use 40lb bag to practice counter punching and 100lb bag for normal bagwork
as for filmnpuck, why not try to ad a gallon of whole milk a day to your diet, a gallon of milk by itself has about 128g of protein and 2400 calories =) never hurts to eat more if you workout enough
Cobra33
01-11-2008, 07:50 PM
I'm 6'1 1/2 and weigh 132 pounds.Same weight for 10 years.Some peoples metabolisms burn alot quicker then others.
I have a 100 pound heavy bag, but I should have probably gotten something lighter. I am always hurting my hands on the damn thing no matter what steps I take to prevent it from happening.
sivaru
08-01-2008, 04:51 PM
Im 6'4 250 pounds and the heavy bag we use at our gym is 120 pounds
BlackWater
08-01-2008, 05:28 PM
Im 6'4 250 pounds and the heavy bag we use at our gym is 120 pounds
Did you just necro a 7 month old thread?
colin7878
08-01-2008, 08:08 PM
I am 6ft 130lbs and use 100lb bag
TKDfighterJoe
08-04-2008, 01:18 AM
You get strong by exercise (not that hitting the bag isnt exercise).
The intent of hitting the bag is to develope speed/power/ and technique.
You want to be loose and relaxed so you sure that all of your energy is at the end of the punch.
When you hit the bag --- sure, you put your body into it.
Your arm is just an extension of your body.
You want to get the feeling of penetrating the bag --- just like hitting a real body.
Sharp hard penetrating punches.
You will not get that hitting a hard immovable object.
There are alot of boxers who are not that big who can hit like a mule.
I hae seen a few little guys knock out big strong guys with one shot.
Also, Powerair Fitness in Buffalo.
Get their catalogue.
They have quite an assortment of water bags --- different shapes and they go much bigger than 100 lbs and have cells in then making it more difficult to penetrate for big guys.
They best gyms are using predominantly water bags.
God Bless Cus D'amato --- but I dont believe there were water bags back then.
And remember your hands and wrists.
Take care of them or you will have big time arthritis problems by the time your 50.
Guys that say water bags are a waste of time should attach a brain to their body.
Good Luck.
I'm 145 and about 5'11
I just ordered a 150 lb pow air heavy bag. From what I hear they are the best quality wise. we used to own one but back then I was too young to hit it.
I read up on the subject a bit. 1st off a water filled bag wont be as damaging to your ligaments and tendons because it is absorbative. Also, it has a closer consistency to that of a human body because it if filled with fluid. It wont become heavier at the bottom over time so it lasts longer.
I heard that tyson always trained with a water-filled bag. 300 pounds wouldn't surprise me considering his power and weight. I've seen some of his training videos and the bag is obviously water filled.
They will tend to sway less which may be a disadvantage for some boxers, however they allow penetration. when you strike a bag at full power you do tear a lot of muscle fiber. It's explosive and high impact, of course you will. if you are punching a classic bad that doesn't allow penetration you will only tear muscle fiber relevant to getting your fist to that point. If you punch a water filled bag you will develop the muscles relevant to penetrating with power, resulting in more powerful strikes.
I will be doing extensive kicking on it to develop power, as well as some punching. It's about my weight so that's perfect, just like the people I'll be hitting. Though striking at full power with my bare foot will take a few weeks to get used to, the rubber skin and no foam padding should be pretty rough on my foot, but that's what I want. Toughening up your foot greatly reduces pre-kick hesitation.
anywho, pow air bags are the best.
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also, bladder in it is guaranteed up to 3 years.
crazyboy867
08-06-2008, 12:33 AM
im around 5'7 weighing probably around 140-150. i think thats normal according to BMI.
and heres a article regarding the "set point" theory. the article is released by MIT so it has to be a legitimate research.
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oh and i have a 75lbs bag. i wish i had something a little heavier because my awesome punching power is too much for the bag and it swings all over the place. lol
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