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bill poster
10-18-2007, 04:12 PM
Hear me out. Paul Williams is widely seen as the man to UD Floyd but most would say Ricky would not stand a chance against the gangly Williams. Margarito did not possess the speed to KO Williams and was too tired by the time he caught up with the Punisher. Would Hattons pressure and body attack get to Williams? Possibly so. Either way it would not go the distance!

brooklyn1550
10-18-2007, 04:14 PM
I read the question wrong. I voted for Williams, but I meant that he would be the winner.

Williams beats Hatton

kg0208
10-18-2007, 04:15 PM
There is no way I can fathom a Hatton win here.

tragicliston
10-18-2007, 04:16 PM
Williams is all wrong for Hatton in every way. Williams by mid-late round TKO.

mightyd40
10-18-2007, 04:20 PM
Williams is all wrong for Hatton in every way. Williams by mid-late round TKO.
williams is all wrong for just about anyone right now.....his style size and punch volume is gonna be tough to beat

Relentless
10-18-2007, 04:22 PM
williams is all wrong for just about anyone right now.....his style size and punch volume is gonna be tough to beat

then why does margarito get heat for losing to him after a close fight?

bill poster
10-18-2007, 04:23 PM
Williams does not possess the greatest chin and doesnt like body attacks. i would be intrigued by this matchup, sorry, freakshow. Hatton has speed and power albiet in a small package

brooklyn1550
10-18-2007, 04:25 PM
Williams does not possess the greatest chin and doesnt like body attacks. i would be intrigued by this matchup, sorry, freakshow

Hatton would struggle to get inside and he would get picked off coming in. Hatton doesn't have the power to really seriously hurt Williams at 147.

tragicliston
10-18-2007, 04:25 PM
then why does margarito get heat for losing to him after a close fight?

Probably because a lot of people here hate Margarito. It doesn't help that Tony claimed he won the fight.

Relentless
10-18-2007, 04:25 PM
Williams does not possess the greatest chin and doesnt like body attacks. i would be intrigued by this matchup, sorry, freakshow. Hatton has speed and power albiet in a small package

:patsch

margarito landed some flush over hand rights and uppercuts without hurting him, and margarito is a huge welter.

tragicliston
10-18-2007, 04:26 PM
Hatton would struggle to get inside and he would get picked off coming in. Hatton doesn't have the power to really seriously hurt Williams at 147.

Agreed. I don't see Hatton could ever get inside Williams' reach.

bill poster
10-18-2007, 04:29 PM
I honestly thought he had Williams hurt on a couple of occasions but maybe i need to watch the fight again

tragicliston
10-18-2007, 04:30 PM
This poll is waaaay too close thus far.

TRUEBELIEVER 66
10-18-2007, 04:35 PM
Hatton at 5-7 would have a helluva time reaching the 6-1 Williams and how's he gonna get inside without eating the jab??
Sorry Hatton fans Williams by decision..:yep

audio101
10-18-2007, 04:35 PM
Is this a joke? Williams would kill Hatton easily.

tragicliston
10-18-2007, 04:59 PM
Right now the poll reads 12-10 in Hatton's favor. Incredible.

markbrooklyn
10-18-2007, 05:05 PM
Hell no Hatton wont even bother Paul Williams.. If Margarito couldn't hurt or KO Williams then Hatton doesn't stand a chance in hell.. Margarito is a BIG Welterweight.. Hatton is a small one.

Relentless
10-18-2007, 05:07 PM
the poll should have been public

Brooklyn Boxer
10-18-2007, 05:09 PM
Hatton would lose worse to Williams than Hatton is gonna lose to PBF. Everything Williams does in the ring would be bad for Hatton. Williams is long and srong and he throw over 100 punches in a round. Williams also is a southpaw and he boxes. I'm sorry Hatton fans but if he fought Williams I think Williams would retire him.

VIPERMAN
10-18-2007, 05:10 PM
williams is all wrong for just about anyone right now.....his style size and punch volume is gonna be tough to beat


spot on - williams is everyones worst nightmare imo

williams would still take plenty of leather off hatton but i'd back williams on points.

sean
10-18-2007, 05:16 PM
williams is to big for hatton , one of the reasons i think hatton should move back down to 140 after mayweather.

Bobby Tony
10-18-2007, 05:28 PM
Williams

btw the poll is who gets ko'd. Hatton should be leading it!

psychopath
10-18-2007, 05:30 PM
Lighten up people . . . there's a bigger chance that Hatton will K.O. Williams than the otherway around because Hatton has more power than Williams. PLus. . . knowing that Williams fights from the outside Hatton will fight him inside tie him up to neutralize his long reach.

Hatton is not STUPID . . . I believe. :yep

GazOC
10-18-2007, 07:19 PM
I read the question wrong. I voted for Williams, but I meant that he would be the winner.

Williams beats Hatton

:lol: Me too!!

Fab2333
10-18-2007, 07:20 PM
Williams rapes Hatton

PH|LLA
10-18-2007, 07:21 PM
Hatton is simply too small.

Williams UD

Pimp C
10-18-2007, 07:21 PM
Hatton wouldn't even be able to get on the inside to do effective body work, his arms are way too short. This fight is a mismatch. Williams hits Hatton with everything but the kitchen sink and wears him down and stops him by TKO.

mightyd40
10-18-2007, 07:48 PM
then why does margarito get heat for losing to him after a close fight?
i dont give margarito shit for losing....if u look back i was one of only a few people who picked pw in the first place. i just cant see people getting past him

MSTR
10-18-2007, 08:13 PM
There is no way I can fathom a Hatton win here.
Williams won't be able to fight Hatton on the inside though. All that Hatton needs to do is get past the long reach, and he is set. Being a shorter fighter, and considering how fast Hatton is on his feet, I believe he can do it. This would be a very close fight IMO. I think people that don't think so are severely under rating Hatton. Williams isn't a great counter puncher like Floyd, and to be honest doesn't fight well backing up. Hatton will just try to walk through him to get the job done. The reason Collazo did well because he was extremely tight defensively in close quarters. Williams clearly is not, and I think this would be a very back and forwards fight.

MSTR
10-18-2007, 08:17 PM
Everyone here is pointing to the fact that Hatton is too small. Do you all not realise it is easier to slip under and negate reach as a shorter fighter, then a taller one. Look at all the best pressure fighters in history. Dempsey, Marciano, Tyson, Chavez ect... All shorter fighters who burrowed their way in. Williams isn't a counter puncher. And he has looked very uncomfortable when people have gotten inside, or pushed him back. Hatton certainly will not take a backwards step, and he will have a far easier time getting inside then Marg did. He will also be far more effective inside then Marg.

MrStayman
10-18-2007, 08:22 PM
I'm surprised that this is 50/50...

Williams is probably the worst matchup at WW for Hatton. He may even have more chance than PBF does at winning.

China_hand_Joe
10-18-2007, 08:52 PM
Williams wouldn't kill Hatton, likely beat him on points in mundane fashion though.

fatdrunkenslob
10-18-2007, 09:52 PM
Williams would have a great chance at stopping Hatton on cuts throwing 100+ punches a round. He's more like 6'3" in real life compared to Hatton's 5'6" - 5'65". Hatton might have problems even reaching him and we all saw how he did against the last south paw he faced.

jopez707
10-18-2007, 09:57 PM
I voted for Williams, but thought that it meant that he would ko Hatton not the other way around. This poll was written to consuse people I think, thus the high number of people that voted for Williams to be ko'd. Williams would massacre HAtton.

MSTR
10-18-2007, 09:59 PM
I would pick hatton if it weren't for the problems he has had when facing southpaws in the past. I am telling you right now, Williams will have a lot of trouble against anyone who can effectively get inside, and the two best in the welterweight division right now at doing this are Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton. Cotto would thoroughly beat Williams, and Hatton, if he weren't puzzled by the southpaw stance again, also has the tools to defeat him. Some of you guys who point to Hatton getting stopped, when Williams took a tonne of rounds to KO Maythsse, are SEVERELY under rating Hatton. I get the feeling you are the same people who think that Floyd will be an aggressor against Hatton also. Rubbish.

MSTR
10-18-2007, 10:01 PM
Williams would have a great chance at stopping Hatton on cuts throwing 100+ punches a round. He's more like 6'3" in real life compared to Hatton's 5'6" - 5'65". Hatton might have problems even reaching him and we all saw how he did against the last south paw he faced.
Silly Comparison. Williams and Urango couldn't be more different as fighters. I really don't think you thought about this post at all did you?

bill poster
10-19-2007, 07:03 AM
I voted for Williams, but thought that it meant that he would ko Hatton not the other way around. This poll was written to consuse people I think, thus the high number of people that voted for Williams to be ko'd.

No, just some people are a bit thick :D

ThePlugInBabies
10-19-2007, 07:16 AM
Hatton might have problems even reaching him and we all saw how he did against the last south paw he faced.

yeah, he won.

achillesthegreat
10-19-2007, 07:34 AM
I love Ricky but he has nothing for Williams. Williams is far too big. Williams would just keep throwing and if Ricky did get through he simply can't do the damage needed.

Williams is going to be VERY hard to tame. Margo tried and failed. I can see someone like Cotto doing it because he is much more polished and intelligent.

JediPimp007
10-19-2007, 09:23 AM
what's all this crap about not being able to get on the inside? That's where Williams does his best work and as has been mentioned, he doesn't take well to being blasted to the body... interesting fight, but Williams still for me on sheer size, but certainly no easy nights work as some would have you believe.

knockout
10-19-2007, 09:33 AM
Williams by schooling.

pit
10-19-2007, 10:06 AM
then why does margarito get heat for losing to him after a close fight?

Why ?!?! maybe because so many of his fans , where stating that he was this Monster juggernaut of the 147 pound devision , when he really was not.

Polymath
10-19-2007, 11:46 AM
Thats not a pitbull in your avatar

joe the great
10-19-2007, 11:47 AM
I doubt either fighter gets ko'd but I would like Williams on points.

MrMagic
10-19-2007, 11:48 AM
Hear me out. Paul Williams is widely seen as the man to UD Floyd but most would say Ricky would not stand a chance against the gangly Williams. Margarito did not possess the speed to KO Williams and was too tired by the time he caught up with the Punisher. Would Hattons pressure and body attack get to Williams? Possibly so. Either way it would not go the distance!
EDIT: You can't be more wrong.
Shane Mosley is your man, period.

As for the topic, anything can happend, PW got hit a lot to the body by Margarito, and Hatton's a lethal body puncher.
Hatton by accumulation to a stoppage or Paul by decision.

Polymath
10-19-2007, 11:48 AM
Biggest physical mismatch you could conceive outside of the heaveyweight division.

IcanzIIravor
10-19-2007, 12:01 PM
I don't think Williams would KO Hatton, but I think it would be a stoppage on cuts. If we are talking only a KO and not a TKO then I suppose it might be Hatton via a miracle shot. Otherwise it's all Williams.

sues2nd
10-19-2007, 12:33 PM
How did Hatton get so many votes.

I mean, why post on a boxing site if ya dont know much about the sport?

Pimp C
10-19-2007, 12:48 PM
How did Hatton get so many votes.

I mean, why post on a boxing site if ya dont know much about the sport?
I agree this should be a public poll.

pit
10-19-2007, 12:49 PM
Thats not a pitbull in your avatar

really?!?! then what is it then :lol:

cpnasty
10-19-2007, 12:57 PM
Williams would destroy Hatton

Relentless
10-19-2007, 01:12 PM
Why ?!?! maybe because so many of his fans , where stating that he was this Monster juggernaut of the 147 pound devision , when he really was not.

now people are making paul williams out to be the 'monster juggernaut' which he really is not, if he beats pbf is pbf also overhyped?

joe the great
10-19-2007, 01:28 PM
How did Hatton get so many votes.

I mean, why post on a boxing site if ya dont know much about the sport? So you think Williams has almost no chance of KOing Ricky? More people polled seem to think Williams gets Ko'd over Ricky. Or they didn't read the poll carefully. I personally think this one goes the distance.

pit
10-19-2007, 01:28 PM
now people are making paul williams out to be the 'monster juggernaut' which he really is not, if he beats pbf is pbf also overhyped?

I don't see William as some monste , unlike Margarito who was suppose to be to strong , and too big for anyone to handel .. William is just a tall welter who happens to be south paw with a 80 inch wing span that can box.
many Margarito fan where saying the margarito strenth and pressure would be enough to KO williams which was far from correct.
Margarito had been out boxed before, by conventianal fighters , like santos , clotty and Rodney Jones,, all proved that Margarito needs have his guy infront of him to be effective , give Margarito angles and he's lost .

you will also notice the people that are over hyping Paul are dye hard margarito fans , no one else is toting williams as the man at welter like they were margarito .

Relentless
10-19-2007, 01:32 PM
I don't see William as some monste , unlike Margarito who was suppose to be to strong , and too big for anyone to handel .. William is just a tall welter who happens to be south paw with a 80 inch wing span that can box.
many Margarito fan where saying the margarito strenth and pressure would be enough to KO williams which was far from correct.
Margarito had been out boxed before, by conventianal fighters , like santos , clotty and Rodney Jones,, all proved that Margarito needs have his guy infront of him to be effective , give Margarito angles and he's lost .

you will also notice the people that are over hyping Paul are dye hard margarito fans , no one else is toting williams as the man at welter like they were margarito .

when did pimp c become a margo fan?

Thread Stealer
10-19-2007, 01:40 PM
Hatton's too small.

It's why Hatton's team is leary about fighting at WW, but they said Mayweather is an exception since he's not an exceptionally big WW anyway.

There's a big difference when it's a 6'1 guy with a wingspan longer than Wladimir Klitschko who enters the ring unofficially above the middleweight limit.

pit
10-19-2007, 02:07 PM
when did pimp c become a margo fan?

I didn't know he was ? I did read a couple of post where he thought Williams south paw style would give floyd problems , but then again what south paw has not given Floyd problems?:think

platnumpapi
10-19-2007, 02:07 PM
I read the question wrong. I voted for Williams, but I meant that he would be the winner.

Williams beats Hatton

the thread starter got me the same way, how many voted for paul thinking who the winner would be, but turns out its who gets koed.

paul would beat hatton, to much of a size difference i think.

Relentless
10-19-2007, 02:18 PM
the thread starter got me the same way, how many voted for paul thinking who the winner would be, but turns out its who gets koed.

paul would beat hatton, to much of a size difference i think.
:lol:

shit i just realized

Brooklyn Boxer
10-19-2007, 05:29 PM
I think Hatton would get the beating of his life if he faced Williams. Williams has all the advantages in this fight. Williams has the height, reach, speed, and I also think he has the power advantage over Hatton. Hatton also has trouble over southpaws. Williams throws over 100 punches a round and Hatton is not a counter puncher. Williams is a big Welterweight and Hatton is a really small Welterweight. Williams also boxes and uses the whole ring during a fight. If this fight ever happen I think Williams would KO him in 6 and Hatton would retire after that fight.

pipe wrenched
10-19-2007, 06:36 PM
I read the question wrong. I voted for Williams, but I meant that he would be the winner.

Williams beats Hatton

:yep :lol: Me thinks the poll was rigged. I had already hit the button before I saw what it said.:lol:

achillesthegreat
10-20-2007, 12:52 PM
Even Ricky Hatton would tell you he just doesn't need Williams. He said it about Margo. He just doesn't need it. Whats the point of putting yourself in that situation. Williams made Margo look small. Its madness.