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OklahomaHoss
10-18-2007, 06:32 PM
I've just watched a little of his fight with Tony Thompson, and I wasn't particularly excited one way or another with either of them.

Timur's only had a couple of losses, but they were both to very highly skilled and highly rated boxers. (again, I wasn't very impressed with what I've seen from Thompson).

I he and Sergei, and Nicolay, all in the same boat. Undecided. Are they potential superstars who've had a hitch and just need to hit their stride? Or have we seen their best and just need to relegate them to the journeyman status they deserve?

Thoughts? Input?

Zakman
10-18-2007, 06:36 PM
Timor could go from being an ordinary fringe contender to a contender if he gets a few decent wins under his belt. Doubt he'd win a title, but you never know in today's HW division.

kg0208
10-18-2007, 06:46 PM
I've just watched a little of his fight with Tony Thompson, and I wasn't particularly excited one way or another with either of them.

Timur's only had a couple of losses, but they were both to very highly skilled and highly rated boxers. (again, I wasn't very impressed with what I've seen from Thompson).

I he and Sergei, and Nicolay, all in the same boat. Undecided. Are they potential superstars who've had a hitch and just need to hit their stride? Or have we seen their best and just need to relegate them to the journeyman status they deserve?

Thoughts? Input?
My first thought is that I find it odd that you see potential in Ibragimov but are unimpressed with Thompson who beat him soundly. You seem to be giving the Euro HW's the benefit of the doubt despite strong evidence the other way in some cases. Why would their losses just be hitches, but someone like Thompson doesn't make your radar?

OklahomaHoss
10-18-2007, 06:54 PM
My first thought is that I find it odd that you see potential in Ibragimov but are unimpressed with Thompson who beat him soundly. You seem to be giving the Euro HW's the benefit of the doubt despite strong evidence the other way in some cases. Why would their losses just be hitches, but someone like Thompson doesn't make your radar?

I can see your point, KG. Let me clarify. It isn't Thompson's abilities that don't impress me. Far from it. He's got to be good to be rated where he is. It's just his style that doesn't appeal to me. He seems to be a good boxer with an ugly style. Along the lines of John Ruiz, or Sultan Ibragimov.

And certainly, a loss should be considered only a "hitch" if it remains only one or two. Same with Thompson.

brooklyn1550
10-18-2007, 06:56 PM
Yes, Timur should be written off. He doesn't impress me. Thompson is much, much better.

Punisher33
10-18-2007, 07:00 PM
Timur is boring to watch, and doesnt look all that great to me.

AJAX
10-18-2007, 07:00 PM
Timur fights not to lose rather then fighting to win which usually makes for very boring fights.

kg0208
10-18-2007, 07:01 PM
I can see your point, KG. Let me clarify. It isn't Thompson's abilities that don't impress me. Far from it. He's got to be good to be rated where he is. It's just his style that doesn't appeal to me. He seems to be a good boxer with an ugly style. Along the lines of John Ruiz, or Sultan Ibragimov.

And certainly, a loss should be considered only a "hitch" if it remains only one or two. Same with Thompson.

Gotcha. Thompson is boring but effective. I think Sultan is clearly the better brother in this situation.

With Valuev, I have no idea how good he really is. Hard to tell. Honestly I thought Ruiz beat him.

Sp_Immortal
10-18-2007, 07:21 PM
Gotcha. Thompson is boring but effective. I think Sultan is clearly the better brother in this situation.

With Valuev, I have no idea how good he really is. Hard to tell. Honestly I thought Ruiz beat him.

From what I heard, they're not related. They just have the same surname.

geppy
10-18-2007, 07:26 PM
Timur Ibragimov , if that is even his real name , is the Slavic Audley Harrison. He dont fight with any heart.

Cachibatches
10-18-2007, 08:08 PM
Was he ever written on?

Vantage_West
10-18-2007, 08:11 PM
Gotcha. Thompson is boring but effective. I think Sultan is clearly the better brother in this situation.

With Valuev, I have no idea how good he really is. Hard to tell. Honestly I thought Ruiz beat him.they aint related:roll: i know shock horror

the only time i hear ibragimov as a surname is both for 2 heavywieght prospects

1-Ton
10-18-2007, 08:13 PM
Yes. I watched the Thompson & Brock fights and was nearly bored to tears. I can honestly tell you that I am more interested in watching John Ruiz right now, because he is at least a legit contender. Timor is most definitely just a journeyman.

RUSKULL
10-18-2007, 08:15 PM
Timur fights not to lose rather then fighting to win which usually makes for very boring fights.

Well put, he's a safety first fighter who hardly commits to any punches. He's still a slight contender though but another loss or 2 and he's a gatekeeper like Guinn. I think Guinn would beat him if I had to bet.

Heavyrighthand
10-23-2008, 04:08 PM
I see since his Brock loss, Timur has strung together three wins, one being against Timo HOffman.

He may yet work himself into a decent gatekeeper type fighter, who looms around the lower top 15, but that'd be the most I would expect of him, if that.

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ANyone see his recent fight in September?

Brickhaus
10-23-2008, 04:31 PM
Timur is crap, Sultan isn't even related to Timur much less being his brother, and Lyakhovich has nothing left after the Brewster fight. I'm not sure how someone could put Valuev in the same boat as these clowns, he's clearly superior to them at this point.