View Full Version : Do any Floyd Fanboys think Hatton has a chance?
MancMexican
10-19-2007, 08:35 AM
Like plenty of Hatton fans I think Floyds gonna beat him and I personally would go so far as to say Mayweather's gonna mess him up bad. Plus lots of Hatton fans think Hatton will win but that it will be tough as hell and there are those of course who think he'll stop Mayweather. So you've got the full spectrum of opinions from the Hatton supporters.
However I haven't seen a single Mayweather fan who gives Hatton any credit, let alone any chance of victory and I don't even recall any PBF fans who even think it will be a hard nights work for their boy.
So, are there any PBF fans out there who think their fighter is going to lose, could lose, or is even in for a tough night out? Because if not then surely this is a gimme fight for Floyd and does nothing to enhance his legacy or cemment his position as P4P champ.
SteveO
10-19-2007, 08:52 AM
I'm sure some Floyd fans will give Hatton credit.
The ball suckers won't.
I like them both for different reasons. Hatton can win, but I'm picking Floyd.
MacManJr.
10-19-2007, 08:53 AM
I see no way Hatton can win this fight. I don't understand how he gets so much credit for wrestling. I would say the same thing if he was fighting Shane or Cotto too.
mattress
10-19-2007, 08:53 AM
Good post
ThePlugInBabies
10-19-2007, 08:55 AM
the lack of respect for hatton from some floyd fans is really low, and they are only devaluing their boys impending win and making him look worse. still morons like standi are too pig ignorant to realise that.
MacManJr.
10-19-2007, 08:58 AM
the lack of respect for hatton from some floyd fans is really low, and they are only devaluing their boys impending win and making him look worse. still morons like standi are too pig ignorant to realise that.It doesn't matter who Floyd beats or what he does. Some people still won't give him credit.
SteveO
10-19-2007, 09:09 AM
It doesn't matter who Floyd beats or what he does. Some people still won't give him credit.
That is true, too.
MancMexican
10-19-2007, 09:13 AM
That is true, too.
If Floyd beats Hatton then I will give him plenty of props. Hatton is definitely the underdog in this fight but he has tools that threaten Floyd more than most out there and he is the legit man at 140. Then again, I've always given Floyd credit.
PowerPuncher
10-19-2007, 09:17 AM
Well I'm a Mayweather fan, so call me a 'Mayweather fan boy' if you must. I think Hatton can beat Mayweather yes. If Floyd isn't aggressive and lets Hatton get his shots off first. If uses his jab to get inside, if Hatton sticks on Mayweathers chest, is aloud to grapple, and throws 60punches a round for the whole fight and maybe hurts Floyd to the body early. Then Hatton has a chance of a UD or even a stoppage.
I also thought Judah and Delahoya could cause upsets (although I favoursed Floyd as I do here)
No one is unbeatable and a good man can beat an even better man on the right day
So yes a Hatton win is definately possible but I also see the possibility of Mayweather winning every round or even stopping Hatton mid-rounds aftr dominating. Hatton may also score a bodypunch KO (I doubt this though)
MancMexican
10-19-2007, 09:26 AM
Well I'm a Mayweather fan, so call me a 'Mayweather fan boy' if you must. I think Hatton can beat Mayweather yes. If Floyd isn't aggressive and lets Hatton get his shots off first. If uses his jab to get inside, if Hatton sticks on Mayweathers chest, is aloud to grapple, and throws 60punches a round for the whole fight and maybe hurts Floyd to the body early. Then Hatton has a chance of a UD or even a stoppage.
I also thought Judah and Delahoya could cause upsets (although I favoursed Floyd as I do here)
No one is unbeatable and a good man can beat an even better man on the right day
So yes a Hatton win is definately possible but I also see the possibility of Mayweather winning every round or even stopping Hatton mid-rounds aftr dominating. Hatton may also score a bodypunch KO (I doubt this though)
Maybe I shouldn't have used the phrase fan boy... no offense meant
You're the first mayweather fan I've seen who has actually said that Hatton could win and how he might pull the upset.
mattress
10-19-2007, 09:26 AM
It doesn't matter who Floyd beats or what he does. Some people still won't give him credit.
That is utter shite. Like me, most people hate the bastard but few can deny that he is a master craftsman. I personally don't enjoy watching him fight but there is no doubting his effectiveness. If FMJ had the personality and respect of someone like Hatton then he'd be one of the most popular boxers ever. I really believe that. It's just that most of us find him nauseating.
mattress
10-19-2007, 09:30 AM
Maybe I shouldn't have used the phrase fan boy... no offense meant
You're the first mayweather fan I've seen who has actually said that Hatton could win and how he might pull the upset.
the fact is that most FMJ 'fanboys' honestly believe that he is unbeatable. When they have followed boxing for more than 12 months they will realise that everyone is beatable.
gutto
10-19-2007, 09:32 AM
I think pbf fans will never give hatton any credit even if he beats pbf it will be he held him blah blah blah
I do not like pbf as a person but you would have to be mad to say hes not p4p at the minute
GazOC
10-19-2007, 09:33 AM
However I haven't seen a single Mayweather fan who gives Hatton any credit, let alone any chance of victory and I don't even recall any PBF fans who even think it will be a hard nights work for their boy..
Thats because most Mayweather fans are 14 year old wannabe gangstas harbouring homo-erotic fantasies about Floyd.:deal
Sizzle
10-19-2007, 09:40 AM
I favour Mayweather about 70/30.
I still haven't decided whether Hattons relentless aggression is going to be the ultimate stylistic advantage or disadvantage yet - Initiating combat and trying to get inside could play into Mayweathers hands.
I think Hatton is a little underrated, and I think Mayweather is not as determined as he normally would be approaching a fight, having accomplished the pinnacle of his ambitions in defeating Oscar.
But his talent is so immense, it's just difficult to see him losing to Hatton. Still, you never know. Hatton could shock him if he does manage to cut off the ring and stay inside.
Like plenty of Hatton fans I think Floyds gonna beat him and I personally would go so far as to say Mayweather's gonna mess him up bad. Plus lots of Hatton fans think Hatton will win but that it will be tough as hell and there are those of course who think he'll stop Mayweather. So you've got the full spectrum of opinions from the Hatton supporters.
However I haven't seen a single Mayweather fan who gives Hatton any credit, let alone any chance of victory and I don't even recall any PBF fans who even think it will be a hard nights work for their boy.
So, are there any PBF fans out there who think their fighter is going to lose, could lose, or is even in for a tough night out? Because if not then surely this is a gimme fight for Floyd and does nothing to enhance his legacy or cemment his position as P4P champ.
I think Hatton has a very good chance of a upset , he has the tools , skill , strength , and speed to give Floyd Problems .
BUT, there is that BIG BUT , there that part of him that wants to proves that he's just an average, that he goes off eats tons of fried food, and chugs down pints of Beer.. He reminds me of James Tony who followed the same life style of trying to prove he was still one of the Hommies on the Block. Enough Talent to beat anyone of Top ten contenders , but very inconsistent when fighting elite fighters.
If Hatton can lock this side of him in a trunk somewhere till Dec 8 he has a very good chance .
Boro chris
10-19-2007, 09:57 AM
So much depends on the ref with Hattons mauling/infighting style.
If its Nady Hatton may as well not turn up.
Also the tale of the tape is critical. If Hatton is percieved as a physical threat by Floyd after the first round he'll become typically conservative and we'll have a messy negative ud for Floyd in which neither fighter will emerge with much credit.
If the opposite is the case then I see something along the lines of Mayweather vs Chavez. Possibly a bit more competitive though.
the fact is that most FMJ 'fanboys' honestly believe that he is unbeatable. When they have followed boxing for more than 12 months they will realise that everyone is beatable.
This is a 2 way street , when most haters of floyd stop making stupid statement like , he a runner , he never fights the , so on and so on ..
Anyone that is a student of the Sport know that none of the statement about floyd is True . the fact is, Floyd is a Brilliant that does everything that a fighter should do in Gym , and that is work extremely hard, Floyd isn't where he is because of talent , he where is because of hard work and that alone should be respected .
MacManJr.
10-19-2007, 11:12 AM
That is utter shite. Like me, most people hate the bastard but few can deny that he is a master craftsman. I personally don't enjoy watching him fight but there is no doubting his effectiveness. If FMJ had the personality and respect of someone like Hatton then he'd be one of the most popular boxers ever. I really believe that. It's just that most of us find him nauseating.You are 1 of the few. Read these boards and you'll see exactly what I mean. No matter who he signs to fight there are people that say he should've fought someone else.
PH|LLA
10-19-2007, 11:16 AM
Like plenty of Hatton fans I think Floyds gonna beat him and I personally would go so far as to say Mayweather's gonna mess him up bad. Plus lots of Hatton fans think Hatton will win but that it will be tough as hell and there are those of course who think he'll stop Mayweather. So you've got the full spectrum of opinions from the Hatton supporters.
However I haven't seen a single Mayweather fan who gives Hatton any credit, let alone any chance of victory and I don't even recall any PBF fans who even think it will be a hard nights work for their boy.
So, are there any PBF fans out there who think their fighter is going to lose, could lose, or is even in for a tough night out? Because if not then surely this is a gimme fight for Floyd and does nothing to enhance his legacy or cemment his position as P4P champ.
I disagree with you here. the fact that a fight against an undisputed champion is a gimme fight for Floyd imo definately enhances and cements his position as p4p champ. The more impressively and easily Floyd beats Hatton, the more his legacy benefits. Hatton beat both Tszyu and Castillo, and if Floyd beat him easily, then for me it will tremendously boost his p4p status.
MancMexican
10-19-2007, 11:35 AM
I disagree with you here. the fact that a fight against an undisputed champion is a gimme fight for Floyd imo definately enhances and cements his position as p4p champ. The more impressively and easily Floyd beats Hatton, the more his legacy benefits. Hatton beat both Tszyu and Castillo, and if Floyd beat him easily, then for me it will tremendously boost his p4p status.
But if for arguments sake we say that its an easy fight for floyd then how can this improve his legacy? Surely an opponent must be a credible threat in order to warrant any increase in status for defeating them? I think a win is a boost to floyds legacy but I also think that Hatton could pull an upset. My point is, if the win is so concrete with Hatton having no chance, then how can it be a good win?
MancMexican
10-19-2007, 11:35 AM
delete
BewareofDawg
10-19-2007, 11:42 AM
It's a good win, because PBF is like God, incapable of being defeated.
Just for this comment, I'll take that bet with you on this fight. the article one. You better hope Hatton doesn't pull an upset :yep
MancMexican
10-19-2007, 11:43 AM
It's a good win, because PBF is like God, incapable of being defeated.
Though God has never been defeated he's never actually fought anyone of merit either. He's ducked the no 1 contender Satan for thousands of years so imo his 0 is meaningless.
Zeus however fought plenty of gods and titans and sat at the top of perhaps the toughest division/pantheon for an age.
It would be like Hagler/Hearns. God is a great figher but he's just out of his depth with the bigger, stronger Zeus.
Zeus KO3 God
So, ultimately, I don't think your point is valid.
pugilistspecialist
10-19-2007, 11:55 AM
Im a huge Floyd Mayweather fan...been following him since he beat Genero Hernandez. Most talented fighter of the past 10 years in boxing, Roy Jones was in the last generation. Like Jones, Mayweather's competition has been in question since the pair of Castillo fights. Hatton IMO is his best opponent since he beat a prime Castillo(not the worn shell Hatton beat.) Hatton has a great chance at winning the fight. Its just a matter of how much punishment he is willing to take and can take to press Mayweather 12 rounds or less. ODLH and Baldomir were waaaay larger than Mayweather so he adjusted to a more defensive style to beat the larger men who were 160+ come fight time. Hatton on the other hand is smaller, but a more active tenacious fighter. Mayweather will be more aggressive against Hatton since he has shown to be offensive against smaller fighter at 140-147(Corley, Gatti, Judah, and Mitchell for example.)So this will open opportunities for Hatton. The bad thing is Mayweather is the best counterpuncher in the sport and a ring general. For Hatton to win he will need controlled pressure to beat Mayweather, not the lunging he does at times, and to smother Mayweather's punches and keep the fight out of ring center where he has little chance. He has the style and strength and stamina to but does he have the chin????? Hatton will take more flush sharp hits than he ever took in his career. Does he have to endurance and chin we will see DEC. 8
BigReg
10-19-2007, 12:55 PM
But if for arguments sake we say that its an easy fight for floyd then how can this improve his legacy? Surely an opponent must be a credible threat in order to warrant any increase in status for defeating them? I think a win is a boost to floyds legacy but I also think that Hatton could pull an upset. My point is, if the win is so concrete with Hatton having no chance, then how can it be a good win?
Faulty logic. Just because a fighter beats another fighter rather easily, doesn't mean it wasn't a good win. If Hatton were to completely dominate Floyd would it be appropriate to say that it wasn't a good win, just becasue he handled him easily? Of course not. Hatton is undefeated and a top 10 p4p fighter. It doesn't matter how Floyd beats him, just beating an undefeated, young, p4p fighter is a good win.
The taff
10-19-2007, 01:00 PM
Though God has never been defeated he's never actually fought anyone of merit either. He's ducked the no 1 contender Satan for thousands of years so imo his 0 is meaningless.
Zeus however fought plenty of gods and titans and sat at the top of perhaps the toughest division/pantheon for an age.
It would be like Hagler/Hearns. God is a great figher but he's just out of his depth with the bigger, stronger Zeus.
Zeus KO3 God
So, ultimately, I don't think your point is valid.
:lol: :good
When was the last time Mayweather messed someone up?
BigReg
10-19-2007, 02:30 PM
When was the last time Mayweather messed someone up?
Judah
VIPERMAN
10-19-2007, 03:07 PM
zab 'i lose to every good fighter i face' judah
MacManJr.
10-19-2007, 03:15 PM
zab 'i lose to every good fighter i face' judahYou asked a question and he answered it. What more do you want?
MancMexican
10-19-2007, 04:14 PM
Faulty logic. Just because a fighter beats another fighter rather easily, doesn't mean it wasn't a good win. If Hatton were to completely dominate Floyd would it be appropriate to say that it wasn't a good win, just becasue he handled him easily? Of course not. Hatton is undefeated and a top 10 p4p fighter. It doesn't matter how Floyd beats him, just beating an undefeated, young, p4p fighter is a good win.
I think you're misunderstanding me. Im not saying that it wouldnt be a good win. Far from it. Im making a point based on the logic of some people that hatton has no chance, cant possibly win etc etc. Im saying that if these facts were true then it wouldnt be a good win. I consider Hatton a threat to floyd so if he does spank him then i will give him loads of credit.
ajohnfp
10-19-2007, 04:20 PM
I'm a Floyd fan, and I think he's going to win, but it would be retarded to say Hatton has no chance.
Slothrop
10-19-2007, 04:28 PM
Like plenty of Hatton fans I think Floyds gonna beat him and I personally would go so far as to say Mayweather's gonna mess him up bad. Plus lots of Hatton fans think Hatton will win but that it will be tough as hell and there are those of course who think he'll stop Mayweather. So you've got the full spectrum of opinions from the Hatton supporters.
However I haven't seen a single Mayweather fan who gives Hatton any credit, let alone any chance of victory and I don't even recall any PBF fans who even think it will be a hard nights work for their boy.
So, are there any PBF fans out there who think their fighter is going to lose, could lose, or is even in for a tough night out? Because if not then surely this is a gimme fight for Floyd and does nothing to enhance his legacy or cemment his position as P4P champ.
A lot of Floyd Boys are as classless as the asshole himself. What did you expect?
ThePlugInBabies
10-19-2007, 04:37 PM
He has the style and strength and stamina to but does he have the chin????? Hatton will take more flush sharp hits than he ever took in his career.
yes, he walked through tszyu's shots to mash him up on the inside, chin is not a problem for hatton, he may get stopped, but it won't be because of a faulty chin.
PowerPuncher
10-19-2007, 05:07 PM
Maybe I shouldn't have used the phrase fan boy... no offense meant
You're the first mayweather fan I've seen who has actually said that Hatton could win and how he might pull the upset.
No offense taken, it seems the forum is made up of 'huggers' or 'haters', instead of enthusiasts. I have a degree of bias but try to remain objective.
When 2 top fighters fight anything can happen, the unexpected happens in boxing and thats why its an exciting sport and we watch it with anticipation instead of just reading about it the next day alreadying knowing what happened because were such experts at predicting fights
I'm going for Mayweather I think he can and will beat Hatton to the punch and get out of range. When Hatton launches attacks I think he will be made to miss for the most part and get countered. But like I say anything can happen
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