Mayweather says: I wanna hurt ya Hatton! & Witter backs Mayweather to beat Ricky...

[Dunky McCafferty]

Floyd Mayweather last night vowed to wipe the floor with Ricky Hatton.

The american legend fumed: "Ive never wanted to hurt an opponent like I do Hatton." Mayweather, 30 confirmed he will end his retirememt to set up a PPV blockbuster against the hitman.
Hatton shot from the lip on Sunday night after retaining his IBO light-welter title against Castillo, insisting that the fight had contained more excitement than pretty boys whole career.
Mut Mayweather rapped: "I was retired but I'll sign to fight hatton right now.
"I have tried to let the things he said about me slide by, but now hes dissing me on national TV & I want to shut him up.
"For me, boxing is a science- but it will be a pleasure to prove to the world what a great phoney the guy is.
"Hatton cannot fight. He cannot box. He throws one punch at a time & then holds. There is no skill to what he does in the ring. He has got zero skills. Hatton is the most over-rated fighter of the last 25 years. He beat an old Kostya Tszyu & he beat n old Castillo, who was shot.
"I beat Castillo twice and the first time I did it with one hand because the other was so messed up. That was five years ago when castillo was in his prime"

Hattons rival world 10stone champ champ Junior Witter is convinced Hatton, 28, would tke a pounding if he does get it on with Mayweather. the yorkshireman, 32 said "Ricky would get completely outboxed. I dont think he would get anywhere near Mayweather." & Witter is convinced pretty boy would wreck hattons reign- & his unbeaten 43 fight record.
The WBC champ added: "I dont believe Hatton would have as good a go as DLH. He hasnt got the movement to catch up with Mayweather.
"If you cant pin Mayweather down- & if you are not an extremely capable boxer at world level, then you have no chance. And that isnt what Ricky is about.
"hed get picked off & picked off as long as it lasted. I dont see hatton quitting, but I think he would quickly lose his edge. Id expect it to end with the referee stopping it"

Witter is desperate to fight hatton, claiming he hs been avoiding him for years. But he did not even bother staying up to watch Hatton dispose of Castillo.
Witter said "I didnt think it was going to be much of a fight. Castillo wasnt big enough and looked shot as a top level fighter in his previous outing. Ricky now says he wants a big fight in England but there wont be enough money for a Mayweather fight here. "Im the only big fight in Britain for Hatton. Its something that can definitely be done. Theres absolutely no reason why not. "Its all down to hatton. Wembley would suit me fine but I would fight him in manchester, his back garden, anywhere. Im not fussed- as long as the bell goes & its him and me"

Hatton hs been offered the chnce to fight IBF champ Malignaggi. The new yorker said "I can beat Hatton. hes so flawed, so one dimensional"

[Charles187]

For fuck sake does Witter want to fight Hatton or is he secretly attracted to him? Schoolyard stuff!

[David UK]

But will Mayweather come to the UK to fight hatton if he wants him so bad? I doubt it

[Nemesis]

For what its worth, I think Ricky has the perfect style to beat Mayweather, great footwork, underrated hand speed and he can lunge with his punches to great effect. Floyd doesnt stand a chance in hell of hurting him either.

[achillesthegreat]

Hatton-Witter - let's see it. Settle the score. That's the fight I want to see.

[Club Fighter]

Damn, Hatton's the only champ I know that everybody and their grandmother claims they can beat. Well, at least it's all champs claiming they can beat him. I believe at least 2 of the 3.

[stake501]

only mayweather and witter have a chance against hatton at 140

[Boro chris]

For what its worth, I think Ricky has the perfect style to beat Mayweather, great footwork, underrated hand speed and he can lunge with his punches to great effect. Floyd doesnt stand a chance in hell of hurting him either.

Yup! A quick pressure fighter is the sorta guy that could give Floyd a few problems. I do feel though that if he could hurt Oscar then Hatton is vulnerable.

[Strike]

Mayweather would dust Hatton. But then he would beat everyone else too, so there is not shame in that.

Hatton would beat Witter. I have watched just about every Witter fight, and been ringside for two, including his fight with Corley. He has a punchers chance, but that is it.
He is not what he was 3 years ago and he gets sloppy and tired as the fight progresses, Hatton would maul him. But Witters power carries to the end even when he is looking fucked and not fighting well, so it could still be exciting.

[Amsterdam]

Mayweather would dust Hatton. But then he would beat everyone else too, so there is not shame in that.

Hatton would beat Witter. I have watched just about every Witter fight, and been ringside for two, including his fight with Corley. He has a punchers chance, but that is it.
He is not what he was 3 years ago and he gets sloppy and tired as the fight progresses, Hatton would maul him. But Witters power carries to the end even when he is looking fucked and not fighting well, so it could still be exciting.

:yep :yep

[Dunky McCafferty]

I will tell you this though, I do NOT for a second believe that junior went to his bed & didnt bother watching the fight, I KNOW that if Junior dislikes hatton as much as he appears to, he would have been watching, hoping against hope Castillo beat him. Thats why I tuned in after all:lol:

You have to admire Witter though. Hes been chasing Hatton for years, & is willing to fight on Hattons terms & has even said he will forfeit his purse if it means getting Hatton into the ring with him.

No matter what the Hatton fans say, its purely Hattons fault this fight never happens. & as I have said in another thread, his refusal to fight Witter will damage his legacy. Cos beating a major domestic rival like Witter is a MUST if a fighter wants to go down as a great on these shores. Hatton has never featured in a domestic grudge match, or beat a big prospect from these shores who has called him out, like Olusegun for instance.

If Hatton has a homecoming fight & doesnt face an elite fighter or his nemesis Witter or a brash prospect from these shores like Olusegun for instance?

Its just another let down. Over to Ricky.

[younghypnotiq]

mayweather would crush hatton. no doubt

[faisal]

witters wants to get a big pay day

["TKO"]

It's not even that IMO, Witter simply wants to earn himself some publicity by "piggy backing" off of Hatton's name. Hence stunts like coming out with a "I'll fight for nothing" statement when Hatton is already contracted to face Urango and then Castillo. Witter appears extremely jealous of Hatton. He doesn't like the fact that Hatton tooks three times the number of fans to Vegas for Castillo as turned out to watch his own title winning bout with Corley. The fact is, Witter may be a very talented fighter, but for various reasons (not great to watch, no big fanbase) he's insignificant on the biggest stage. If he was calling for the likes of Mayweather, Cotto, DLH, they would be saying "who the hell is this guy"? The reason he keeps rabbiting on about Hatton is because some people will buy this idea he keeps pumping out of being Hatton's rival. Hatton, meanwhile, simply couldn't give a stuff about him. He can fight Tszyu, Castillo and (possibly) Mayweather. For Witter, there's always a rematch with Salvadore Battaglia.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

I will tell you this though, I do NOT for a second believe that junior went to his bed & didnt bother watching the fight, I KNOW that if Junior dislikes hatton as much as he appears to, he would have been watching, hoping against hope Castillo beat him. Thats why I tuned in after all:lol:

You have to admire Witter though. Hes been chasing Hatton for years, & is willing to fight on Hattons terms & has even said he will forfeit his purse if it means getting Hatton into the ring with him.

No matter what the Hatton fans say, its purely Hattons fault this fight never happens. & as I have said in another thread, his refusal to fight Witter will damage his legacy. Cos beating a major domestic rival like Witter is a MUST if a fighter wants to go down as a great on these shores. Hatton has never featured in a domestic grudge match, or beat a big prospect from these shores who has called him out, like Olusegun for instance.

If Hatton has a homecoming fight & doesnt face an elite fighter or his nemesis Witter or a brash prospect from these shores like Olusegun for instance?

Its just another let down. Over to Ricky.


Dunky you are 100% correct.

Hatton has avoided Witter for no good reason. I noticed that on the Setanta Sports documentary he was mad at Barry McGuigan who said he should fight Junior Witter. Irrespective of the result he needs to fight Witter or Ajose Olusegun in a homecoming fight.

PBF will kick his arse and I think Hatton and his team know this. A man who really lost to Luiz Collazo has no chance against PBF. I pretty sure Hatton and his team will make all the noises then instead fight someone like Malignaggi who is not a real threat. Quite shameful really.

[Tony Harrison]

To say Witter is insignificant rings hollow now that he has a major world title. Indeed that has always been the criteria by which Hatton dismissed a domestic showdown.

I also think it is unfair to say Hatton hasn't fought any domestic rivals, Eamon Magee was a dangerous opponent at the time and that certainly qualified as a grudge match.

Hatton should fight Witter as I think he would beat him in a hard fought match, but if it comes down to facing Witter or genuinely making a fight with Mayweather I think everybody would rather see the latter.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

And you, sir, are clearly delusional.

Why should he fight Witter? It won't be a megafight in the UK because Hatton's the only draw. Witter is insignificant and Hatton would beat him silly. Witter's defence only works if he's not getting pressured and, when pressured, he'd run like he did against Judah.

Hatton is smart enough to realise that, even if he loses to PBF, he can say he lost to the best and still get other meaningful fights either at 140 or 147.

He'd make an 8-figure sum for fighting Mayweather who, on the basis of the fight with DLH, he could possibly beat. Mayweather would be in a bind because he would need to actually fight Hatton rather than pick him off, otherwise he'd end up proving Hatton's point.

I'd love to see this match. Witter just comes across as a big child who doesn't have the personality or the disposition to be an entertaining fighter. he's fine as what he is: a b-grade domestic fighter who got lucky and beat an average opponent in DeMarcus Corley for his title.


I am not a Witter fan but you are the one who is delusional.

If Hatton fails to fight Witter any legacy he craves will be tarnished as people will always speculate and there will be doubt as to who was better. He might win, he might lose but he should at least step up to the plate. It will be a lucrative domestic match with the hatred this 2 have for each other. Lloyd Honeyghan faced Marlon Starling, Benn & Watson fought Eubank. The question is does Hatton want to be like McGuigan and avoid his Azumah Nelson's. He needs to fight Witter and or Ajose Olusegun at 140 pounds before his time is out.

To say that the contest between PBF and ODLH shows Hatton could possibly win shows that you are delusional. If the fight ever came off I would bet my house that PBF will tax Hatton arse and beat him similar to what he did with Arturo Gatti. I for one will not believe the fight will happen until Hatton signs the contract. Can you imagine Team Hatton offering PBF £5 million to come to the UK when PBF earned over $22 million in his last fight. This fights belongs in Las Vegas the world capital of boxing where PBF can expect at least $15 million and Hatton can make a career high purse.

For the record I don't hate or dislike Hatton but I find some of his career choices strange to say. If he wants Legacy then have the legacy fights against fighters at their peak not great fighter past their best and nobodies.

Hatton supporters start getting delusional which makes some of us laugh as they are in for a rude awakening once the right fights are made.

[China_hand_Joe]

Hatton is a great champion, Witter is barely even a titlist.

[GazOC]

Being boxing fans its easy to lose sight of the fact that Hatton just doesn't need Witter, this isn't a fight that the sports fan in the pub is bothered about seeing like boxing fans might be.

Lewis- Bruno, Benn-Eubank/ Stracey-Green/ Sibson-Minter etc were all 'man in the pub' fights.....

[ferd cloupes]

Witters best win was against a seriously shop worn Corley while my only sight of Olusegun was his epic 12 round tussle with Gary Reid. It's understandable why there is world wide clamour for both/either of these to get a shot at Hatton. Who wouldn't want to watch such mouth watering matchups?

I know Olusegun can't be as bad as he looked against Reid and i haven't missed a Witter fight since he lost to Judah. I was made up when he beat Corley. No keyboard warrior me either as i'm sure that they'd both put me on my arse but given the choice between PBF Witter and Olusegun i like to think i'd be forgiven for going with PBF.

As to the damage to his long term standing in the game if he continues to chase PBF while ducking these aforementioned giants...
get to fuck

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Olu,

I am not a Hatton fan, but the statement you're making about Witter is entirely of Witter's creation.

1) Witter has never been a rival except when Witter has said so. Hatton said in Boxing Monthly that there was no gain to be had fighting him. It doesn't resemble the case with Benn/Eubank because... NO-ONE KNOWS WITTER!!!! The others you mentioned were famous - Witter is best remembered for LOSING to Judah.

2) Ajose Olusegun: again, who? he means nothing except to a small hardcore and even then there is no legacy if noone cares about the other fighter. I have never seen anyone call for a fight between the two of them.

3) your comparison to Gatti is seriously suspect because Hatton isn't Gatti in terms of style. What you're making the comparison on is that Hatton brawls and Gatti was known to go and trade in a vapid display of heroics. the reason the DLH comparison stands to reason is that when DLH pressured Floyd, he didn't seem sure of himself and because he didn't have the space, he couldn't get his shots off as effectively.

There is NO OTHER OPPONENT THAN DE LA HOYA that could earn FMJ that sort of money - so he's shafted on that regard. he's not a marquee name on his own - he struggles to make PPV sales. he needs someone like Hatton to make his next fight an event. £5 million is still $10 million is it not? Not a bad pay day, sure it's not £10 million but HE HAS NOONE TO EARN HIM THAT SORT OF MONEY.

Witter is not a great fighter. he's ok - AT BEST.

PBF could earn a lot more than £5million as he is the top fighter in the game today. Cotto , Mosley,a rematch with ODLH, Margarito etc will bring him much more. Not covinced it will happen as Hatton knows he will lose so they make offers PBF cannot accept.

I don't like Junior Witter however I have noticed that right from when he Hatton and Witter were with Sports Network, Hatton or his team were never keen on this contest. The question is why? Is there something they know that we don't? I for one believe Witters style will cause him problems though I would prefer Hatton to win.

As for Ajose Olusegun he is an unbeaten contender who is the current African Boxing Union and Commonwealth Light Welterweight champion who is heading up the ratings to a world title shot. In my humble opinion he has the skills, talent and all round game to be the best from Africa since Azumah Nelson.

You are right that Gatti is not Hatton as Gatti is marginallya better technical boxer when he hooked up with James Buddy McGirt as his trainer.

Hatton is a very good fighter however he will be beaten by the right types of opponents namely skilled boxer punchers who have variety.

You ask who is Ajose Olusegun and another person trys to mock him because they are not sure who he is. Just remember Hatton was unknown until he got his opportunity against Tyzu. Give other hungry young fighters like Ajose who can really fight a shot against Hatton and Hatton will be exposed. Popularity does not necessarily makea fighter great rather it is deeds. Hatton has a legitimate shot at being an all time great. If he wants then fight the best in your division here and abroad.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Floyd Mayweather last night vowed to wipe the floor with Ricky Hatton.


The american legend fumed: "Ive never wanted to hurt an opponent like I do Hatton." Mayweather, 30 confirmed he will end his retirememt to set up a PPV blockbuster against the hitman.
Hatton shot from the lip on Sunday night after retaining his IBO light-welter title against Castillo, insisting that the fight had contained more excitement than pretty boys whole career.
Mut Mayweather rapped: "I was retired but I'll sign to fight hatton right now.
"I have tried to let the things he said about me slide by, but now hes dissing me on national TV & I want to shut him up.
"For me, boxing is a science- but it will be a pleasure to prove to the world what a great phoney the guy is.
"Hatton cannot fight. He cannot box. He throws one punch at a time & then holds. There is no skill to what he does in the ring. He has got zero skills. Hatton is the most over-rated fighter of the last 25 years. He beat an old Kostya Tszyu & he beat n old Castillo, who was shot.
"I beat Castillo twice and the first time I did it with one hand because the other was so messed up. That was five years ago when castillo was in his prime"

Hattons rival world 10stone champ champ Junior Witter is convinced Hatton, 28, would tke a pounding if he does get it on with Mayweather. the yorkshireman, 32 said "Ricky would get completely outboxed. I dont think he would get anywhere near Mayweather." & Witter is convinced pretty boy would wreck hattons reign- & his unbeaten 43 fight record.
The WBC champ added: "I dont believe Hatton would have as good a go as DLH. He hasnt got the movement to catch up with Mayweather.
"If you cant pin Mayweather down- & if you are not an extremely capable boxer at world level, then you have no chance. And that isnt what Ricky is about.
"hed get picked off & picked off as long as it lasted. I dont see hatton quitting, but I think he would quickly lose his edge. Id expect it to end with the referee stopping it"

Witter is desperate to fight hatton, claiming he hs been avoiding him for years. But he did not even bother staying up to watch Hatton dispose of Castillo.
Witter said "I didnt think it was going to be much of a fight. Castillo wasnt big enough and looked shot as a top level fighter in his previous outing. Ricky now says he wants a big fight in England but there wont be enough money for a Mayweather fight here. "Im the only big fight in Britain for Hatton. Its something that can definitely be done. Theres absolutely no reason why not. "Its all down to hatton. Wembley would suit me fine but I would fight him in manchester, his back garden, anywhere. Im not fussed- as long as the bell goes & its him and me"


Hatton hs been offered the chnce to fight IBF champ Malignaggi. The new yorker said "I can beat Hatton. hes so flawed, so one dimensional"


Dunky where is my other Scottish mate Top Dog? Has he travelled?

Hatton is okay but his fans think he is far better than he is. Imagine what Cotto, PBF, Ajose, Witter, Mosley and co will do to him. I bet you they never step with PBF and fight Malignaggi.

[GazOC]

You ask who is Ajose Olusegun and another person trys to mock him because they are not sure who he is. Just remember Hatton was unknown until he got his opportunity against Tyzu. Give other hungry young fighters like Ajose who can really fight a shot against Hatton and Hatton will be exposed. Popularity does not necessarily makea fighter great rather it is deeds. Hatton has a legitimate shot at being an all time great. If he wants then fight the best in your division here and abroad.

Like it or not, popularity gets you oportunities. BTW Hatton was not unknown when he fought Zoo, he was the number 1 contender and putting 30,000 bums on seats every fight.

[ferd cloupes]

You ask who is Ajose Olusegun and another person trys to mock him because they are not sure who he is. Just remember Hatton was unknown until he got his opportunity against Tyzu. Give other hungry young fighters like Ajose who can really fight a shot against Hatton and Hatton will be exposed. Popularity does not necessarily makea fighter great rather it is deeds. Hatton has a legitimate shot at being an all time great. If he wants then fight the best in your division here and abroad.

lad i made it quite clear i wasn't mocking him and i respect your faith in him. However the demand for hatton to fight him is simply not there and won't be for some time yet (maybe never, we'll see). hatton won't get floyd in the uk for 5 million of that i'm sure but i'm also fairly sure that the notion he will duck this fight is somewhat erroneous. personally i think the fight WILL happen and nothing would make me happier. actually there are a few things that would make me happier but as this is a boxing site i'll kindly keep them to myself

why not ajose witter for starters ?

[steelem]

wittons a ponce

mayweathers scum

[Olu G. Rotimi]

lad i made it quite clear i wasn't mocking him and i respect your faith in him. However the demand for hatton to fight him is simply not there and won't be for some time yet (maybe never, we'll see). hatton won't get floyd in the uk for 5 million of that i'm sure but i'm also fairly sure that the notion he will duck this fight is somewhat erroneous. personally i think the fight WILL happen and nothing would make me happier. actually there are a few things that would make me happier but as this is a boxing site i'll kindly keep them to myself

why not ajose witter for starters ?

We would take it tomorrow. Witter gave up the Commonwealth 18 months to a couple of years ago rather than face Ajose when he became the mandatory contender.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Olu,

Again I think you missed my point slightly - some of those have been answered above, but as for Ajose Olusegun - I was aware of his name and had read a couple of pieces about him. haven't seen him fight, but this fact alone suggests that, since I follow boxing very closely now, that perhaps he doesn't have a recognisable name. I'm not a knowledge on the sport - a keen enthusiast perhaps - so if people like me know nothing, then neither will anyone else.

Hatton is a marquee name - why should he give an unknown a shot at this late stage in his career? He should be looking to capatalise on his fame to make a secure living for his family.

Furthermore, Gatti a better boxer? You are kidding, yes? Gatti was very entertaining, but he was nowhere near as efficient as Hatton is. We would not see the same sort of fight against HAtton - if that gets stopped in FMJ's favour, then it'll be on cuts.


Hatton is a relatively easy nights work for PBF. I am not saying Gatti is a better pound for pound fighter than Hatton. He may or may not be that is still debateable until Hatton fight genuine threats By that I mean top fighter at their peak or younger hungry fighters approaching their peak. A 35 year old Kostya Tyzu and a shot Castillo don't quite do it for me. Yes he was very impressive however if he does this against the likes of Cotto, Witter, Ajose(which he cannot), PBF and Margarito then I for one will lobbying for him to be give a Knighthood, the freedom of Manchester etc.

I said Gatti is marginally a better technical fighter when he hooked with Buddy McGirt.

[China_hand_Joe]

Ajose could beat Gatti, Gatti is leagues below Hatton.

[Max Molyneux]

I hate the way Witter Is shunned just because he doesn't eat leather to give leather like Hatton does though.

Mayweather would dust Hatton. But then he would beat everyone else too, so there is not shame in that.

Hatton would beat Witter. I have watched just about every Witter fight, and been ringside for two, including his fight with Corley. He has a punchers chance, but that is it.
He is not what he was 3 years ago and he gets sloppy and tired as the fight progresses, Hatton would maul him. But Witters power carries to the end even when he is looking fucked and not fighting well, so it could still be exciting.

If Witter goes Southpaw Hatton will be In for tough fight win or lose. Callazo doesn't punch too hard and the southpaw stance had Hatton wobbling and even down In the 12th, but It wasn't counted a KD.

Hatton can be timed I reckon as he tries to maul you too so I think this Is a genuine 50 -50 and has alot of unanswered questions.

[brown bomber]

Ajose could beat Gatti.:think

[Max Molyneux]

Ajose could beat Gatti, Gatti is leagues below Hatton.

Someone called Stujones on boxrec said Gatti would have a chance against Witter.:admin

[Dunky McCafferty]

Olu,so if people like me know nothing, then neither will anyone else.

So cos you dont know who Olusegun is, then no-one else will? I would disagree with that analogy of yours wholeheartedly. SKY are selling Olusegun as 'the next big thing' so people know who he is. & I should know, cos I have argued about a fight with my boy Ando & Ajose with Olu before:D Just incase you think I am teaming up aginst you with Olu.

You are going on about hatton being a 'marquee' name & all that, tell us something we dont know. Hatton is popular, Hatton sells tickets by the thousands, we all know that. However, you havent been reading the thread closely enough, Hatton now wants a HOMECOMING fight. So that rules out Mayweather right away. Floyd has said he wont come to England to fight Hatton. So thats where the other, less 'marquee' names come in.

Thats why we are discussing guys like Witter, Malignaggi, Olusegun, etc, cos these would be the more realistic fights to take place for a Hatton 'homecoming'. Forget Mayweather being Hattons next fight. I hope I am wrong, but Im 100% sure I wont be.

Im with Olu that Hatton will fight Malignaggi next. Its the easiest fight from all the names that are being thrown around, with the biggest reward. & thats how team Hatton rolls.

[Max Molyneux]

Heard of Ajose but not watched him, the guys only just won the commonwealth and people are saying he can beat Witter already. They said Hatton until Castillo some too.

Witter Is under appreciated art.

[China_hand_Joe]

:thinkI don't rate Gatti at all mate.

[GazOC]

Gatti improved after joining McGirt, I still don't think he was technically as good a fighter as Hatton but I suppose its debatable....

Ajose, like most African fighters, is going to have to do it the hard way and force himself into the reckoning for big fights by impressively beating Top 10 opponents. Fights with Hatton/ Witter or whoever are not just going to land on his lap based purely on his ability. He's got to make it impossible for those guys to avoid him, I think its too late in the careers of Hatton and Witter for Ajose to be able to force a fight but thats what he needs to do for the next generation of 140 lbers.

The bottom line is, what does he bring to the table to get a 'big name' opponent? He hasn't got a big fanbase, or a TV name, he won't bring much money into the fight....he really needs to make himself unavoidable and get a mandatory by trying to beat some Top 10 opponents.

[GazOC]

So cos you dont know who Olusegun is, then no-one else will? I would disagree with that analogy of yours wholeheartedly. SKY are selling Olusegun as 'the next big thing' so people know who he is. & I should know, cos I have argued about a fight with my boy Ando & Ajose with Olu before:D Just incase you think I am teaming up aginst you with Olu.

You are going on about hatton being a 'marquee' name & all that, tell us something we dont know. Hatton is popular, Hatton sells tickets by the thousands, we all know that. However, you havent been reading the thread closely enough, Hatton now wants a HOMECOMING fight. So that rules out Mayweather right away. Floyd has said he wont come to England to fight Hatton. So thats where the other, less 'marquee' names come in.

Thats why we are discussing guys like Witter, Malignaggi, Olusegun, etc, cos these would be the more realistic fights to take place for a Hatton 'homecoming'. Forget Mayweather being Hattons next fight. I hope I am wrong, but Im 100% sure I wont be.

Im with Olu that Hatton will fight Malignaggi next. Its the easiest fight from all the names that are being thrown around, with the biggest reward. & thats how team Hatton rolls.

If its Malinaggi next then there won't be a 'homecoming' fight, that fight is a cert for MSG. With Mayweather all the talk of a 'homecoming' was before PBF came out of his <ahem!> 'retirement' on Monday.

My money would be on Mayweather, then win or lose a fight with Maliaggi in NY followed by the 'homecoming'....

[brown bomber]

I don't rate Gatti at all mate. Thats cool- I do rate him especially at Super feather, how many fights of his have you seen because he went through an awfully flat stage mid career. He was very powerful and a versatile boxer when he put his mind to it. His performance winning the title from Tracy Harris Patterson was masterful as was his wins over Terron Millet, Micky Ward 2-3 and Leonard Dorin. Gatti boxed completly the wrong fight against mayweather trying to match his speed and was never going to beat De La Hoya but I think while he'll never go down as an ATG at his best he was a tougher proposition then Castillo and would have given Hatton a hell of a fight.

[brown bomber]

Mayweather Next end of Story if they both want it- lets get it on!!

[China_hand_Joe]

Thats cool- I do rate him especially at Super feather, how many fights of his have you seen because he went through an awfully flat stage mid career. He was very powerful and a versatile boxer when he put his mind to it. His performance winning the title from Tracy Harris Patterson was masterful as was his wins over Terron Millet, Micky Ward 2-3 and Leonard Dorin. Gatti boxed completly the wrong fight against mayweather trying to match his speed and was never going to beat De La Hoya but I think while he'll never go down as an ATG at his best he was a tougher proposition then Castillo and would have given Hatton a hell of a fight.I appreciate he was decent at super featherweight, but at this point in time up at LWW and WW I can't agree he is anywhere near even this past prime Castillo.

[Dunky McCafferty]

If its Malinaggi next then there won't be a 'homecoming' fight, that fight is a cert for MSG. With Mayweather all the talk of a 'homecoming' was before PBF came out of his <ahem!> 'retirement' on Monday.

My money would be on Mayweather, then win or lose a fight with Maliaggi in NY followed by the 'homecoming'....

You think? Im just speculating, but I think they could lure Malignaggi to England. Hope you are right though & I am wrong, would love to see him fight Mayweather next.

[GazOC]

My 'reasoning' (which could turn out to be bollox!) is that Hatton knows PFB won't wait around and that even a competitive loss at 147 would still leave him an attractive opponent at 140 for Malinaggi for the next fight. Theres no financial sense to take Malinaggi first, as a loss puts Hatton straight out of the P4P and any immediate mega fights and win harldly strenghtens his bargaining position with Mayweather.

He can afford to make Paulie wait but the Mayweather fight needs to be made now IMHO. The MSG thing is just that Malinaggi is a big draw in NY and Hatton has said he'd like to top the bill at the Garden at some point but, like the homecoming, I think it will wait now Mayweather has 'bitten'.

Like I say though, might be bollox...;O)

[Dunky McCafferty]

Dunky where is my other Scottish mate Top Dog? Has he travelled?

Hatton is okay but his fans think he is far better than he is. Imagine what Cotto, PBF, Ajose, Witter, Mosley and co will do to him. I bet you they never step with PBF and fight Malignaggi.

I was talking to TD via email just the other day Olu my good man, & he says he will be back:good

[Dunky McCafferty]

Someone called Stujones on boxrec said Gatti would have a chance against Witter.:admin

With all due respect to him hes never been the sharpest tool in the box.
That guy has said so many silly things about scottish fighters that I would take him to school if we argued. But I maintain I will never give Boxrec my precious time, cos that place doesnt deserve characters that will take it to the next level. ESB is the place where the REAL characters post. Boxrec is just an avaterless, humourless world populated by knownothings that think their opinions count in the boxing world. The land of delusions of grandeur. Let them post over there in their safe haven, whilst the edge of the seat stuff goes on over here.

Damn you max, you know how to rile me:lol:

[Max Molyneux]

With all due respect to him hes never been the sharpest tool in the box.
That guy has said so many silly things about scottish fighters that I would take him to school if we argued. But I maintain I will never give Boxrec my precious time, cos that place doesnt deserve characters that will take it to the next level. ESB is the place where the REAL characters post. Boxrec is just an avaterless, humourless world populated by knownothings that think their opinions count in the boxing world. The land of delusions of grandeur. Let them post over there in their safe haven, whilst the edge of the seat stuff goes on over here.

Damn you max, you know how to rile me:lol:

Oh yeah I forgot you mentioned Stu once.

Don't think he likes Witter that much either.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

I'm using it as a broad analogy - what I'm saying is: what does Ricky gain by fighting him if his exposure is virtually nil? he'd be expected to beat him - so when he does... he gains nothing.

Witter might get a few additional sales, Malignaggi would only work in the US and Olusegun would do nothing in either country.

That said: I do think the Hatton's are making easy outs for themselves against Floyd. I come back on this - whatever purse Hatton would get against Floyd would probably be a career high, so he should take it. if he beats Floyd, he's a legend - if he loses, well he lost to the best - no shame in that.

For your information Ajose is becoming a bigger draw every time people see him.

[brown bomber]

I appreciate he was decent at super featherweight, but at this point in time up at LWW and WW I can't agree he is anywhere near even this past prime Castillo. Right now no but say just after he beat Millett I'd put Gatti as a better fighter then Castillo.

[Jack]

Witter annoys me so much. He's an absolute hypocrite. He talks abotu Hatton ducking him, yet if he was good enough, he would force the fight to happen. Look at Malignaggi. Is he great? Not really, but he is putting himself into positions to fight great fighters, like Hatton. Witter is so happy to collect an easy payday by fighting nobodies, that it sounds absolutely pathetic when he calls out the big names.

If he wants to fight Hatton, he should force it to happen. get the fuck out of Sheffield, get a good promoter, some undercard bouts in America, and build himself up. Like Hatton did. Until he does that, he isn't in any position to call out the big dogs when his best win is over 'Chop Chop', who was finished when he fought Witter.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

You make me feel like screaming...

YES, I know he is growing in popularity but he has no value to a fighter at the end of his career who is looking for big money, legacy fights.

If Hatton beats him, everyone will say "Ajose got moved along too fast" - if Hatton loses then he's screwed up any chance of getting a big name fight again.

there's no reward whatever he does.

I'm not denigrating your guy - I'm sure he's great, but you have to see the argument here.

Hatton cannot beat Ajose. Ajose has been calling him out since 2004. People want to see good fighters fight not mismatches.

[Hitman_Hatton]

Hatton cannot beat Ajose. Ajose has been calling him out since 2004. People want to see good fighters fight not mismatches.

Mate with all due respect after the momentum Ricky has gathered with his win on saturday and fights with Cotto and Mayweather being thrown around that Ricky or HBO are seriously going to consider Ajose Olusegun? Im sorry to burst your bubble but you are deluded if you think theres a slight possibility of this happening in the near future.

[GazOC]

Hatton cannot beat Ajose. Ajose has been calling him out since 2004.

I've been calling out Tyson since 1992, the fucker is running scared...:roll:

["TKO"]

Hatton cannot beat Ajose. Ajose has been calling him out since 2004. People want to see good fighters fight not mismatches.


I have never heard anything of this guy calling Hatton out. But even if he did, in 2004, he was a 10-0 prospect whilst Hatton was a contender on the verge of a title shot.

Point is, he may be a very good fighter. I haven't seen him to judge. But I consider myself a pretty hardcore boxing fan and I'm not familiar with Olusegun. So if I don't know him, you can bet the rest of the world doesn't. Hatton is certainly not going to fight him next and quite rightly because he would get panned in the press if he did so! If Olusegun gets himself into the world rankings, beats a few ranked contenders, he may be in the mix. Right now, the best fights for Hatton at 140 IMO are Mbaye, Malignaggi or the Witter-Harris winner.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

I have never heard anything of this guy calling Hatton out. But even if he did, in 2004, he was a 10-0 prospect whilst Hatton was a contender on the verge of a title shot.

Point is, he may be a very good fighter. I haven't seen him to judge. But I consider myself a pretty hardcore boxing fan and I'm not familiar with Olusegun. So if I don't know him, you can bet the rest of the world doesn't. Hatton is certainly not going to fight him next and quite rightly because he would get panned in the press if he did so! If Olusegun gets himself into the world rankings, beats a few ranked contenders, he may be in the mix. Right now, the best fights for Hatton at 140 IMO are Mbaye, Malignaggi or the Witter-Harris winner.

Ajose are gunning for a crack at the WBC title. He was number before he won the Commonwealth title. Now as the combined African and Commonwealth he moves into the top 10 and will become the mandatory so he can no longer be avoided. I agree Hatton does not need him because the last thing Hatton is an extremely fast boxer puncher with supreme skills, excellent defence, great chin and ring genelaship, fasts hands and feet coupled with variety.

Check out his fight with Bradley Pryce on Youtube when he was a given a weeks notice and see what he did to Pryce the curren Commonwealth Light Middleweight champion. Then come back and tell me whether he can fight or not.

[GazOC]

No, the last thing Hatton needs is an unknown prospect...

[Olu G. Rotimi]

No, the last thing Hatton needs is an unknown prospect...

I agree Hatton needs Ajose like the plague. Should they fight then the fight with PBF, Cotto etc will never happen for Hatton as he might never recover from what happens when he is taken back to school.

[GazOC]

You're a funny guy!

I've just watched the Pryce fight, your man looks OK for a 13 fight pro but nothing too special. I'm not saying that for the sake of it or to make a point that just how I see it.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

You're a funny guy!

I've just watched the Pryce fight, your man looks OK for a 13 fight pro but nothing too special. I'm not saying that for the sake of it or to make a point that just how I see it.

Remember that was with 1 weeks notice as late substitute. Now check out his fight against Ali Nuumbembee as see how he dealt with him.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

GazOC did you see the post fight interview after he stopped Pryce calling out all the others Hatton, Witter, Lynes, Bami & co saying he would knock them out?

[GazOC]

I didn't see the post fight interview but calling out people doesn't really prove anything. I'll check out the other fight on YouTube though! I didn't know he was a late sub for the Pryce fight, very nice scalp for him if thats the case.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Hatton's not avoiding him, he just doesn't care.

hatton fans have said the same about Junior Witter for years, & the hitter now not only is a world champ, but has the most prestigious belt also.

& still the Hatton fans say hes not in Rickys league & Ricky couldnt care less about him:lol:

No wonder so many think Hatton fans are delusional.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

hatton fans have said the same about Junior Witter for years, & the hitter now not only is a world champ, but has the most prestigious belt also.

& still the Hatton fans say hes not in Rickys league & Ricky couldnt care less about him:lol:

No wonder so many think Hatton fans are delusional.

Dunky you are so correct. Until Hatton takes on the true challenges rather than names on the slide then his legacy will remain tarnished.

[faisal]

i'm a brit and i'm gonna support my fellow englishman, if hatton looses i know he'll have hurt mayweather so bad that he'd send him into permenant retirement.

[teke]

Mayweather will stop Hatton after totally outclassing him

[GazOC]

hatton fans have said the same about Junior Witter for years, & the hitter now not only is a world champ, but has the most prestigious belt also.

& still the Hatton fans say hes not in Rickys league & Ricky couldnt care less about him:lol:

No wonder so many think Hatton fans are delusional.

Why did you quote a remark made about one fighter (Ajose) and take it out of context to push your agenda on another fighter (Witter)? Its not really fair on the person who made the original (correct) comment or representitive of the point he was making about Ajose.

I don't know about 'delusional' but theres def. at least one person who seems to be having trouble grasping the reality of the situation on Hatton-Ajose.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Dunky you are so correct. Until Hatton takes on the true challenges rather than names on the slide then his legacy will remain tarnished.

Thanks Olu:good

A couple of the blokes seem to have misunderstood my comments here, I think my latest point that you quoted went straight over their heads.

[GazOC]

Very clever Dunky, but you know what you did. Quoting fluxs opinion on one fighter but made your point about a completely different fighter....bad form (unless you work for the Gutterpress!)!

Oh, and stop winding Olu up. We both know that Ajose doesn't deserve a shot at Hatton and would not win a fight with Hatton...;O)

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Very clever Dunky, but you know what you did. Quoting fluxs opinion on one fighter but made your point about a completely different fighter....bad form (unless you work for the Gutterpress!)!

Oh, and stop winding Olu up. We both know that Ajose doesn't deserve a shot at Hatton and would not win a fight with Hatton...;O)

GazOC mate Dunky is not winding me up. I have known for a long time that Ajose can take Hatton and will take Hatton if they ever fought. In my opinion Hatton needs a fast, skilful southpaw who can punch, excellent lateral movement and variety like a hole in the head.

I guess winning all the titles available to a fighter to date including international titles like the African Boxing Union title and the Commonwealth title as well as being forced to take catchweight contests against bigger and supposedly stronger men in higher weight divisions is not impressive or deserving of a world title shot. As man moves inside the WBC top 10 in the ratings I guess you would rather see Hatton fight the likes of Urango, Carlos Maussa, Luiz Collazo are co with their limitations rather than really put it on the line against hungry talented fighters. The question is does Hatton want to have a tarnished legacy like Barry McGuigan who studiously avoided Azumah Nelson or does he want to a real boxing legend who took on all comers.

Hatton is down to earth and likeable but it is also true that his record is not quite what his fans think. The failure to fight Witter is glaring. I am not saying that Witter will necessarily win but the excuses coming from the Hatton camp simply don't wash which makes people think that perhaps they are not sure Hatton can win this fight. The shame of it is that I actually think Witter is on the slide so this would be the best time for Hatton to face him.

My view is that the best should fight the best period not mismatches against weak opposition or has beens.

When Hatton was with Sports Network they tried to get Ajose to go up to spar with Hatton after Ajose knocked Pryce out as a last minute substitute however Team Ajose refused as we told them we did not want to spar him we wanted to fight him. They wisely avoided my man. Who can blame them after all Hatton struggles with Welterweights and Southpaws whereas Ajose gives Full fledged welterweights to Middleweighta an ass kicking.

I don't believe Hatton will ever face Ajose as a voluntary defence only as a mandatory after all not only do you stand a good chance of losing you have an excellent chance of being seriosly hurt.

By the GazOC I am so confident that if the match was made then I would gladly bet a high amount with you if you are so confident Hatton will win. I know he will be comprehensively defeated but as the say money talks and bullshit walks.

[GazOC]

GazOC mate Dunky is not winding me up. I have known for a long time that Ajose can take Hatton and will take Hatton if they ever fought. In my opinion Hatton needs a fast, skilful southpaw who can punch, excellent lateral movement and variety like a hole in the head.

I guess winning all the titles available to a fighter to date including international titles like the African Boxing Union title and the Commonwealth title as well as being forced to take catchweight contests against bigger and supposedly stronger men in higher weight divisions is not impressive or deserving of a world title shot. As man moves inside the WBC top 10 in the ratings I guess you would rather see Hatton fight the likes of Urango, Carlos Maussa, Luiz Collazo are co with their limitations rather than really put it on the line against hungry talented fighters. The question is does Hatton want to have a tarnished legacy like Barry McGuigan who studiously avoided Azumah Nelson or does he want to a real boxing legend who took on all comers.

Hatton is down to earth and likeable but it is also true that his record is not quite what his fans think. The failure to fight Witter is glaring. I am not saying that Witter will necessarily win but the excuses coming from the Hatton camp simply don't wash which makes people think that perhaps they are not sure Hatton can win this fight. The shame of it is that I actually think Witter is on the slide so this would be the best time for Hatton to face him.

My view is that the best should fight the best period not mismatches against weak opposition or has beens.

When Hatton was with Sports Network they tried to get Ajose to go up to spar with Hatton after Ajose knocked Pryce out as a last minute substitute however Team Ajose refused as we told them we did not want to spar him we wanted to fight him. They wisely avoided my man. Who can blame them after all Hatton struggles with Welterweights and Southpaws whereas Ajose gives Full fledged welterweights to Middleweighta an ass kicking.

I don't believe Hatton will ever face Ajose as a voluntary defence only as a mandatory after all not only do you stand a good chance of losing you have an excellent chance of being seriosly hurt.

By the GazOC I am so confident that if the match was made then I would gladly bet a high amount with you if you are so confident Hatton will win. I know he will be comprehensively defeated but as the say money talks and bullshit walks.

I'll take that bet anytime but give the cliches a miss eh?

I'm not going to bother answering the rest of your post as the points in it have already been covered by me and other people over and over agian- it really does feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall where your concerned, you're obviously living in a dream world and not willing to listen so lets just leave it at that.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Very clever Dunky, but you know what you did. Quoting fluxs opinion on one fighter but made your point about a completely different fighter....bad form (unless you work for the Gutterpress!)!

Oh, and stop winding Olu up. We both know that Ajose doesn't deserve a shot at Hatton and would not win a fight with Hatton...;O)

I wish I was being clever Gaz, but I wasnt! Its actually a mistake on your behalf, you failed to spot the comparison I made comparing Witter from some years ago & the present day Olusegun. Hatton fans said Witter didnt deserve a shot at Ricky, cos he wasnt in Hattons league etc. Witter went on to prove hatton fans totally wrong by having a great career & winning many titles.

The up & coming Olusegun is now where Witter was some years ago, with Hatton fans here saying Olusegun doesnt deserve a shot at Ricky, for all the same boring old reasons. "hes not in Rickys league blah blah"

& then Hatton fans all celebrate Hatton as an all conquering monster when he beats up on old & shop worn fighters, like he did Castillo, & pads his record in between with guys like Oliveira & 'no joke' Stewart.

If hatton isnt going to fight the PBF's & Cottos of this world, I want to see him taking on his domestic rivals & hungry 'up & comers' who are making a splash on these shores. Hatton has never faced a big domestic rival since Magee put him on his arse, & thats why I think hattons legacy will be tainted if he doesnt fight domestic rivals like Witter & prospects like Olusegun. They want it, & the fans would love it.

I hope I have made my standpoint clearer this time Gaz. & as for me winding Olu up? Olu knows he has my respect as a poster. As I said here before, just listen to Olu as not a Hatton hater, but an Olusegun fan.

I made the same mistake as you & got all annoyed cos Olu said he would beat my favourite fighter, Kevin Anderson, & me & my buddy Topdog had some heated debates with him!

However, once you let the Hatton fanboy red mist clear you will see like I did that Olu knows his stuff as a boxing fan.

Damn, thats twice I have stuck up for a non-scot here now & its been Olu both times, I must be going soft in my old age:lol:

& before you think I am trying to 'get one up on you' with saying you called it wrong, I wasnt. I just think there was a communications breakdown. Unlike you Gaz, who couldnt get in there quick enough with all guns blazing when you thought you saw a ***** in my armour!;)

[SouthLondonsFinest]

Until Ajose fights someone at World Level all this means nothing.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Ajose looks forward to fighting the very best including Hatton.

GazOC I respect your opinion I just disagree. Dunky and TopDog are mates of mine on this site. We had heated debates about their number 1 fighter Kevin Anderson and Ajose. The result is that all 3 of us are looking at the careers of Anderson and Ajose closely to see how far they go.

I am real boxing man who appreciates and respects all fighters. My only beef with Hatton is that in my opinion he needs to take on all comers which I don't believe he has. He has a few names on his record but this is when they were past their best. I think he needs to take on his genuine domestic rivals as well as Cotto and PBF.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Agree with you here, without a doubt. he does need to fight more big opponents and the domestic guys. That is beyond discussion.

Your comparison about beating Bradley pryce on short notice is still off though. it's Bradley Pryce. Consistency is a stranger to him. the last time I watched him fight on the JC-Manfredo undercard, i think - he scratched by against a horribly limited fighter.

I've watched a bit of Ajose since this started and I think he's impressive, but he wouldn't beat Hatton, I think, at the moment.

I'd like to see that fight though.

Time will tell brother but what I can say is Ajose is certain that he will beat Hatton and so am I. Imagine the struggles Hatton had with Collazo, Magee and Urango and then think of Ajose who is faster, much more skilful and hits harder than these other southpaws

["TKO"]

The simple fact that a fighter is from (or based in) the same country as the champion is not enough to earn him a free pass title shot. Right now, however talented he may be, Ajose Olusegun is unknown to all but a few in his inner circle. He certainly isn't close to anyone's world rankings I've seen. If the guy's that good, he will keep on winning against better fighters and get himself a place in the top 5-10, at which point he will be well positioned for a title shot. At the moment, he hasn't beaten anybody to earn one and is completely not on Hatton's (or any other champion's) radar.

Being talented is not enough to earn a fighter a title shot (if it was then the likes of DLH, Mayweather, Mosley etc... could have been given debut shots). You have to prove it by beating some of the best. I look forward to seeing if Ajose can do that.

[GazOC]

I wish I was being clever Gaz, but I wasnt! Its actually a mistake on your behalf, you failed to spot the comparison I made comparing Witter from some years ago & the present day Olusegun. Hatton fans said Witter didnt deserve a shot at Ricky, cos he wasnt in Hattons league etc. Witter went on to prove hatton fans totally wrong by having a great career & winning many titles.

The up & coming Olusegun is now where Witter was some years ago, with Hatton fans here saying Olusegun doesnt deserve a shot at Ricky, for all the same boring old reasons. "hes not in Rickys league blah blah"

& then Hatton fans all celebrate Hatton as an all conquering monster when he beats up on old & shop worn fighters, like he did Castillo, & pads his record in between with guys like Oliveira & 'no joke' Stewart.

If hatton isnt going to fight the PBF's & Cottos of this world, I want to see him taking on his domestic rivals & hungry 'up & comers' who are making a splash on these shores. Hatton has never faced a big domestic rival since Magee put him on his arse, & thats why I think hattons legacy will be tainted if he doesnt fight domestic rivals like Witter & prospects like Olusegun. They want it, & the fans would love it.

I hope I have made my standpoint clearer this time Gaz. & as for me winding Olu up? Olu knows he has my respect as a poster. As I said here before, just listen to Olu as not a Hatton hater, but an Olusegun fan.

I made the same mistake as you & got all annoyed cos Olu said he would beat my favourite fighter, Kevin Anderson, & me & my buddy Topdog had some heated debates with him!

However, once you let the Hatton fanboy red mist clear you will see like I did that Olu knows his stuff as a boxing fan.

Damn, thats twice I have stuck up for a non-scot here now & its been Olu both times, I must be going soft in my old age:lol:

& before you think I am trying to 'get one up on you' with saying you called it wrong, I wasnt. I just think there was a communications breakdown. Unlike you Gaz, who couldnt get in there quick enough with all guns blazing when you thought you saw a ***** in my armour!;)

I don't regard myself as a Hatton fanboy, I follow boxing and tend to get behind all British fighters (never did like Farnell though, for some reason) and Hatton just happens to be a top English fighter. A fanboy would be someone who expects an untested prospect to be given a shot against a P4P boxer and predicts that he'd win easily....;)

To me Hatton-Witter should have happened in the 12 months or so before the Zoo fight when Hatton was having 'nothing' fights waiting for his shot and I admit the fact it didn't is probably down to Hatton and ******. But lets not go over board, Hatton not facing Witter is not going to seriously affect is 'legacy' (hate that word!), its a fight that would have been good to watch at the time due to the styles, ill feeling, domestic angle etc bit who's time has probably past - even 'casual' boxing fans have stopped taling about.

On to Ajose :roll:, do you really think, based on his record, he deserves a title shot with Hatton? Do you thing Hattons 'legacy will be tarnished' if he doesn't fight Ajose as Olu says? Is the Hatton- Ajose situation comparable to McGuigan-Nelson situation where you had a World Champ avoiding a World Champ? Even the connection with Witter is a massive stretch considering Ajoses lack of profile in this country, he doesn't even have people mildly curious about him fighting Hatton (Olu excepted). People here have said what Ajose needs to do to get a title shot, keep winning and move up the rankings, theres going to be no short-cut to Hatton (or any titlist) I'm afraid...

I don't doubt Olu knows his boxing, is a fan and I totally respect Olus right to have an opinion on the outcome of a Ajose-Hatton fight, everyone is entitled to that but where he is just plain wrong is as to why the fight isn't and won't be happening and I'm not going into that again or I may go mad!

Don't be over sensitve Dunky, I'm not after any *****s in your armour, I aceppt what you say about the quoting but I still think its a bit naughty the way you did it, you were mis-representing what the poster had said...but 'hey ho' I guess we're not going to agree on that?:hi:

[Olu G. Rotimi]

The simple fact that a fighter is from (or based in) the same country as the champion is not enough to earn him a free pass title shot. Right now, however talented he may be, Ajose Olusegun is unknown to all but a few in his inner circle. He certainly isn't close to anyone's world rankings I've seen. If the guy's that good, he will keep on winning against better fighters and get himself a place in the top 5-10, at which point he will be well positioned for a title shot. At the moment, he hasn't beaten anybody to earn one and is completely not on Hatton's (or any other champion's) radar.

Being talented is not enough to earn a fighter a title shot (if it was then the likes of DLH, Mayweather, Mosley etc... could have been given debut shots). You have to prove it by beating some of the best. I look forward to seeing if Ajose can do that.


Thanks brother. Prior to winning the Commonwealth title Ajose was number 12 in the WBC ratings so as the combined African and Commonwealth champion when the rating are next issued he will move into the top 10. I think it is also to his credit that he has beaten and knocked out men in higher weight classes. I am not saying Pryce is big deal other than it was at very late notice, they thought they were bringing in an opponent for Pryce to roll over and like Nuumbembee, Kpadenue and others it was another man in a higher weight this talented Junior Welterweight has had to take care of because the Light Welterweights in Britain are running scared.

We will take care of the top contenders and earn our title shot and win it. Ajose is ready and willing to face anyone.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

I don't regard myself as a Hatton fanboy, I follow boxing and tend to get behind all British fighters (never did like Farnell though, for some reason) and Hatton just happens to be a top English fighter. A fanboy would be someone who expects an untested prospect to be given a shot against a P4P boxer and predicts that he'd win easily....;)

To me Hatton-Witter should have happened in the 12 months or so before the Zoo fight when Hatton was having 'nothing' fights waiting for his shot and I admit the fact it didn't is probably down to Hatton and ******. But lets not go over board, Hatton not facing Witter is not going to seriously affect is 'legacy' (hate that word!), its a fight that would have been good to watch at the time due to the styles, ill feeling, domestic angle etc bit who's time has probably past - even 'casual' boxing fans have stopped taling about.

Brother GazOC as you know I respect your opinion and believe that if Ajose and Hatton fight in the future you will be man enough to admit you were wrong if and when my guy wins.

However I have aquestion for you is it not commendable for a fighter to win all the titles available to him at this stage of his career? Fighters like Ajose have to take a hard route. He won the Nigeria, Commonwealth and African title. He cannot fight for the European of British title.

The others on the British scene have refused to fight him. Witter choose not to take the fight when Ajose was his Commonwealth mandatory and agve it up. Some will say Witter gave it up to fight for the world title but I clearly remember him fighting Colin Lynes instead of Ajose. Perhaps he just did not fancy it? Just maybe Lenny Daws, Colin Lynes,Ted Bami and their management know something that is no generally know.

I hope Muttley defeats Bami this month as he might step up to fight Ajose unless his management don't allow.

My point is simply the best should fight the best. Nigel Benn fought Eubank, Watson and Steve Collins. He might not have beaten them all but he has everyone's respect.

On to Ajose :roll:, do you really think, based on his record, he deserves a title shot with Hatton? Do you thing Hattons 'legacy will be tarnished' if he doesn't fight Ajose as Olu says? Is the Hatton- Ajose situation comparable to McGuigan-Nelson situation where you had a World Champ avoiding a World Champ? Even the connection with Witter is a massive stretch considering Ajoses lack of profile in this country, he doesn't even have people mildly curious about him fighting Hatton (Olu excepted). People here have said what Ajose needs to do to get a title shot, keep winning and move up the rankings, theres going to be no short-cut to Hatton (or any titlist) I'm afraid...


I don't doubt Olu knows his boxing, is a fan and I totally respect Olus right to have an opinion on the outcome of a Ajose-Hatton fight, everyone is entitled to that but where he is just plain wrong is as to why the fight isn't and won't be happening and I'm not going into that again or I may go mad!

Don't be over sensitve Dunky, I'm not after any *****s in your armour, I aceppt what you say about the quoting but I still think its a bit naughty the way you did it, you were mis-representing what the poster

had said...but 'hey ho' I guess we're not going to agree on that?:hi:


Brother GazOC as you know I respect your opinion and believe that if Ajose and Hatton fight in the future you will be man enough to admit you were wrong if and when my guy wins.

However I have aquestion for you is it not commendable for a fighter to win all the titles available to him at this stage of his career? Fighters like Ajose have to take a hard route. He won the Nigeria, Commonwealth and African title. He cannot fight for the European of British title.

The others on the British scene have refused to fight him. Witter choose not to take the fight when Ajose was his Commonwealth mandatory and agve it up. Some will say Witter gave it up to fight for the world title but I clearly remember him fighting Colin Lynes instead of Ajose. Perhaps he just did not fancy it? Just maybe Lenny Daws, Colin Lynes,Ted Bami and their management know something that is no generally know.

I hope Muttley defeats Bami this month as he might step up to fight Ajose unless his management don't allow.

My point is simply the best should fight the best. Nigel Benn fought Eubank, Watson and Steve Collins. He might not have beaten them all but he has everyone's respect.

[GazOC]

Olu, I'll admit I was wrong if Ajose even gets a fight with Hatton let alone wins it...its not going to happen. Forget about it.

You're right African fighters don't tend to have it easy and Ajose has done everything expected of him so far. But 'so far' is the Commonwealth title, hasn't proved yet he's genuine world class and he doesn't deserve a title shot yet - that may come, we'll have to see.

I'm not sure about your last point? Ajose hasn't proved he's near the best yet? And Benn didn't fight Jones, Nunn, Kalambay, McCallum.....There are gaps in every fighters resume, I guess Witter and Ajose will have to be gaps in Hattons. You could make a case for Witter being a genuine gap but Ajose just isn't there yet and is unlikely to be before Hatton retires.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Olu, I'll admit I was wrong if Ajose even gets a fight with Hatton let alone wins it...its not going to happen. Forget about it.

You're right African fighters don't tend to have it easy and Ajose has done everything expected of him so far. But 'so far' is the Commonwealth title, hasn't proved yet he's genuine world class and he doesn't deserve a title shot yet - that may come, we'll have to see.

I'm not sure about your last point? Ajose hasn't proved he's near the best yet? And Benn didn't fight Jones, Nunn, Kalambay, McCallum.....There are gaps in every fighters resume, I guess Witter and Ajose will have to be gaps in Hattons. You could make a case for Witter being a genuine gap but Ajose just isn't there yet and is unlikely to be before Hatton retires.

With all due respect Gazoc when a guy is in the top 10 ratings he could be between 1 to 5 fights from winning title. If Ajose get the number 1 contender into a fight he can get mandatory spot similar to Lloyd Honeyghan taking care of Horrace Shufford in the 80' to become Don Curry's mandatory. Of course Hatton can always give up belts or fight the likes of Maussa and the Urangos of this world. Who would you rather see him face someone who can really fight and a genuine threat or have fights that are a foregone conclusion.

The Eubank versus Benn comparison is valid as Eubank was less accomplished with no titles and inferior amateur prior to him taking on Benn and winning.

I think you think Ajose is on the same level as the domestic guys like Michael Jennings, Takaloo, Wright, Bami, Daws, Muttley and Lynes while others know that this is very special world class talent.
Never mind even the great Azumah Nelson and Dick Tiger had to ome from somewhere.

Hatton will lose in my opinion if he fights certain opponents which include PBF, Cotto , Ajose, Margarito, Williams and possibly Witter. Interstingly Ajose and Cotto were in the same Olympics and while I don't want to give away any secrets Ajose has the blue print for Cotto whom I think is a great warrior. Styles can have a big impact on fights.

[dwilson]

Mayweather to Hatton "How can he (Hatton) beat me? You cant beat what you cant catch".

[GazOC]

With all due respect Gazoc when a guy is in the top 10 ratings he could be between 1 to 5 fights from winning title. If Ajose get the number 1 contender into a fight he can get mandatory spot similar to Lloyd Honeyghan taking care of Horrace Shufford in the 80' to become Don Curry's mandatory. Of course Hatton can always give up belts or fight the likes of Maussa and the Urangos of this world. Who would you rather see him face someone who can really fight and a genuine threat or have fights that are a foregone conclusion.

The Eubank versus Benn comparison is valid as Eubank was less accomplished with no titles and inferior amateur prior to him taking on Benn and winning.

I think you think Ajose is on the same level as the domestic guys like Michael Jennings, Takaloo, Wright, Bami, Daws, Muttley and Lynes while others know that this is very special world class talent.
Never mind even the great Azumah Nelson and Dick Tiger had to ome from somewhere.

Hatton will lose in my opinion if he fights certain opponents which include PBF, Cotto , Ajose, Margarito, Williams and possibly Witter. Interstingly Ajose and Cotto were in the same Olympics and while I don't want to give away any secrets Ajose has the blue print for Cotto whom I think is a great warrior. Styles can have a big impact on fights.

Olu, you're a bit quick in comparing Ajose with Tiger, Nelson, PFB, Cotto (and Hatton for that matter). Like it or not Hatton fighting Urango or Maussa carries more weight worldwide than if he'd have fought Ajose, Maussa in particular was a 'name' after the Cotto and Harris fights. Maussa would be a good fight for Ajose at this point if he wants to measure himself agianst the best in the division...

The situation with Honey/ Shufford highlights a problem that your man is going to have: Shufford was #1 contender because Curry and McCrory had cleaned out the division beween them and Shufford was number one by process of elimination, he was the last man standing and getting on in age. Mickey Duff paid a lot of money for Shufford to come to the UK and give Honeyghan a fight for his number 1 spot. Which promoter is going to pay a leading contender decent money to fight Ajose rather than wait for his title shot?

I still don't get the Eubank/ Benn thing, your first post was def. about people respecting Benn but now you've changed it to being about Eubank getting a shot? It doesn't really matter as Benn/ Eubank is not really comparable to Hatton/ Ajose in anyway to be honest as the money and interest was there for that fight.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Olu, you're a bit quick in comparing Ajose with Tiger, Nelson, PFB, Cotto (and Hatton for that matter). Like it or not Hatton fighting Urango or Maussa carries more weight worldwide than if he'd have fought Ajose, Maussa in particular was a 'name' after the Cotto and Harris fights. Maussa would be a good fight for Ajose at this point if he wants to measure himself agianst the best in the division...

The situation with Honey/ Shufford highlights a problem that your man is going to have: Shufford was #1 contender because Curry and McCrory had cleaned out the division beween them and Shufford was number one by process of elimination, he was the last man standing and getting on in age. Mickey Duff paid a lot of money for Shufford to come to the UK and give Honeyghan a fight for his number 1 spot. Which promoter is going to pay a leading contender decent money to fight Ajose rather than wait for his title shot?

I still don't get the Eubank/ Benn thing, your first post was def. about people respecting Benn but now you've changed it to being about Eubank getting a shot? It doesn't really matter as Benn/ Eubank is not really comparable to Hatton/ Ajose in anyway to be honest as the money and interest was there for that fight.

I don't want to call Maussa and Urango bums because that would be disrespectful to them and I will not denigrate fighters. However let us just say Maussa had already been beaten severely by the likes of Cotto when Cotto was on the way up. The less said about Maussa and Harris the better.

How someone with Urango talent became IBF champion is mid boggling.

If these are the names Hatton is proud of along with Collazo then it proves my point about his reord.

Maloney will do what is necessary for Ajose as he needs world champions in his promotional camp hence David Haye, Ajose and Munyai.

The point I make as regards Eubank and Benn is that Eubank was less accomplished in pedigree than Ajose but when the opportunity came he took. Benn might not have fought Kalambay and Nunn but he fought Watson, Eubank twice and Collins domestically and he fought Doug De Witt, Barkley, Robbie Sims and McClellan for which he has everyone's respect. How he won against McClellan defied logic.

You believe Hatton is the better than my man I know my man is better so no further need to argue. If the match ever gets made we will know for sure but at least you know we fancy it and have been calling Hatton out for years even before he became a champion.

We will take on Maussa or whoever but knowing Ajose he would rather take on someone like Demetrius Hopkins he would be regarded as a tougher foe than Maussa who would be much easier. The tougher the opponent the greater than glory and the riches.

Do you think Hatton will agree and sign to fight PBF in November or do you think he will opt for Malignaggi instead?

[GazOC]

I think things have gone suspiciously quiet from the Hatton camp over the PBF fight, so maybe Paulie is next?

But anway enough is enough, lets just agree to disagree. This argument has gone round in a circle at least twice. I wish Ajose all the best with his career particulary as it won't interfere with Hattons.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Don't be over sensitve Dunky, I'm not after any *****s in your armour, I aceppt what you say about the quoting but I still think its a bit naughty the way you did it, you were mis-representing what the poster had said...but 'hey ho' I guess we're not going to agree on that?:hi:

I know your not after *****s in my armour Gaz:good but I am insulted at the fact you or anyone on here classes me as naughty. I prefer to be classed as what your english friend Sean once called me, a 'loveable scottish rougue':D

[GazOC]

:lol: 'Loveable Scottish Rogue' it is then!!:good

[JMonster]

I think mayweather will SMASH him

[crash]

nothing beats a good domestic match up,,,

[haggler2167]

any videos of this interview etc

[BOOKA]

Noone cares about Witter. Witter fans are under the impression that he's a big fish when he's not even that, he a minority interest who comes off as increasingly bitter that Hatton's more succesful than him.

People like Hatton because at least it was a scrap - Witter just seemed overly flashy and usually dull.

On top of that, Witter is best remembered for running from Zab Judah (not entirely his fault when he would have taken an ass-whupping) rather than Ricky, who is best remembered for making Tyszu quit.

Furthermore, who cares what Witter thinks?

That was early in Witters career tho, and he took the fight at a couple of weeks notice, so not too much should be made of that fight really

[GazOC]

In agree, Witter gets a 'freebie' for the Judah loss.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

In agree, Witter gets a 'freebie' for the Judah loss.



Not sure I agree. Call me a hard task master but for me in similar circumstances the measure is Azumah Nelson's performance against Salvador Sanchez. He lost but by giving a great champion true hell a genuine star was born.

Ajose was in similar circumstances against Bradley Pryce. That is the only comparison as I don't want to mention Sanchez and Pryce in the same breath. Ajose stopped him as a last minute substitute. Apologies to Sanchez fans as I don't mean to compare him to Pryce.

[Mendoza]

Ricky's going to make Floyd do a Zab Judah chicken dance.

[GazOC]

Not sure I agree. Call me a hard task master but for me in similar circumstances the measure is Azumah Nelson's performance against Salvador Sanchez. He lost but by giving a great champion true hell a genuine star was born.

Ajose was in similar circumstances against Bradley Pryce. That is the only comparison as I don't want to mention Sanchez and Pryce in the same breath. Ajose stopped him as a last minute substitute. Apologies to Sanchez fans as I don't mean to compare him to Pryce.

For every fighter who comes in a the last minute and does well theres 10 who come in at the last minute and don't. Witter was young and came in at the last moment against a good opponent, to lose on points wasn't too bad a result. Not every stand by opponent is an Azumah Nelson waiting to be discovered.

Nice Ajose connection though....What next, 'Ajose was in a similar situation - he had red gloves on too'?;)

[Olu G. Rotimi]

For every fighter who comes in a the last minute and does well theres 10 who come in at the last minute and don't. Witter was young and came in at the last moment against a good opponent, to lose on points wasn't too bad a result. Not every stand by opponent is an Azumah Nelson waiting to be discovered.

Nice Ajose connection though....What next, 'Ajose was in a similar situation - he had red gloves on too'?;)

He gave Pryce an ass kicking in his hometown thats what because he really can fight and fears no one. He did not wear red gloves the only red stains would Pryce's blood.

[GazOC]

:roll::patsch

[Taffyy]

I don't regard myself as a Hatton fanboy, I follow boxing and tend to get behind all British fighters (never did like Farnell though, for some reason) and Hatton just happens to be a top English fighter. A fanboy would be someone who expects an untested prospect to be given a shot against a P4P boxer and predicts that he'd win easily....;)

To me Hatton-Witter should have happened in the 12 months or so before the Zoo fight when Hatton was having 'nothing' fights waiting for his shot and I admit the fact it didn't is probably down to Hatton and ******. But lets not go over board, Hatton not facing Witter is not going to seriously affect is 'legacy' (hate that word!), its a fight that would have been good to watch at the time due to the styles, ill feeling, domestic angle etc bit who's time has probably past - even 'casual' boxing fans have stopped taling about.
Excellent post Gaz..........
On to Ajose :roll:, do you really think, based on his record, he deserves a title shot with Hatton? Do you thing Hattons 'legacy will be tarnished' if he doesn't fight Ajose as Olu says? Is the Hatton- Ajose situation comparable to McGuigan-Nelson situation where you had a World Champ avoiding a World Champ? Even the connection with Witter is a massive stretch considering Ajoses lack of profile in this country, he doesn't even have people mildly curious about him fighting Hatton (Olu excepted). People here have said what Ajose needs to do to get a title shot, keep winning and move up the rankings, theres going to be no short-cut to Hatton (or any titlist) I'm afraid...

I don't doubt Olu knows his boxing, is a fan and I totally respect Olus right to have an opinion on the outcome of a Ajose-Hatton fight, everyone is entitled to that but where he is just plain wrong is as to why the fight isn't and won't be happening and I'm not going into that again or I may go mad!

Don't be over sensitve Dunky, I'm not after any *****s in your armour, I aceppt what you say about the quoting but I still think its a bit naughty the way you did it, you were mis-representing what the poster had said...but 'hey ho' I guess we're not going to agree on that?:hi:
Excellent post......
Totally agree with your point about Witter............There was a time when he should have fought him but that boat has sailed & lets be honest if Ricky does go on to triumph over FM or Cotto for example.........Who is going to remember or care about the Witter match up not happening......??????

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Excellent post......
Totally agree with your point about Witter............There was a time when he should have fought him but that boat has sailed & lets be honest if Ricky does go on to triumph over FM or Cotto for example.........Who is going to remember or care about the Witter match up not happening......??????


Hatton will lose to PBF and Cotto hence they will never make these matches.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Excellent post......
Totally agree with your point about Witter............There was a time when he should have fought him but that boat has sailed & lets be honest if Ricky does go on to triumph over FM or Cotto for example.........Who is going to remember or care about the Witter match up not happening......??????

aaargh! Its not often I make that sound, but thats how frustrated I am right now.

So you say "there was a time when hatton should have fought Witter but that boat has sailed":patsch Sailed where? Why should that boat sail off, only for another boat to bring in Urango instead. Its a complete nonsense that Hatton fans can dismiss Witter as a credible opponent whilst they watched Urango & Maussa fight Ricky instead.

In fact, I give up tryingto get my point across in this thread. You cannot talk to a brick wall. & Olu, I would advise you to do the same. Cos the more good points we make? The more they are ignored.

Its a useless exercise trying to debate with Hatton fans, cos they dont want to listen. They have made their minds up if it isnt Mayweather or Cotto, you dont deserve a shot at Ricky Hatton:-(

Lets see the excuses they make for Ricky when he fights Malignaggi next, at best. Then all of you who say guys like Witter & Olusegun dont deserve a sniff at Hatton should apologise. However, as we all know that wont happen. Cos suddenly Malignaggi will be a 'dangerous' world champ opponent just like Urango & Maussa in Hatton fan world.

Hatton fans, in a blinkered league of their own.

[The Exile]

aaargh! Its not often I make that sound, but thats how frustrated I am right now.

So you say "there was a time when hatton should have fought Witter but that boat has sailed":patsch Sailed where? Why should that boat sail off, only for another boat to bring in Urango instead. Its a complete nonsense that Hatton fans can dismiss Witter as a credible opponent whilst they watched Urango & Maussa fight Ricky instead.

In fact, I give up tryingto get my point across in this thread. You cannot talk to a brick wall. & Olu, I would advise you to do the same. Cos the more good points we make? The more they are ignored.

Its a useless exercise trying to debate with Hatton fans, cos they dont want to listen. They have made their minds up if it isnt Mayweather or Cotto, you dont deserve a shot at Ricky Hatton:-(

Lets see the excuses they make for Ricky when he fights Malignaggi next, at best. Then all of you who say guys like Witter & Olusegun dont deserve a sniff at Hatton should apologise. However, as we all know that wont happen. Cos suddenly Malignaggi will be a 'dangerous' world champ opponent just like Urango & Maussa in Hatton fan world.

Hatton fans, in a blinkered league of their own.





For years i said that Witter did not deserve to share the same ring with Hatton until he actually fought someone of note.

Well now he has a cpl of good wins, WBC Belt and i honestly beleive he deserves a crack at Hatton as he has done everything asked of him......the fact the US tv dont want the fight shouldnt matter a toss - it is a scrap the British fans want to see so all i can say is F*ck off HBO.


Still think Witter is a twat and will get pummelled into retirement if they meet but hey, he now deserves to get the fight.

["TKO"]

What on earth is wrong with Malignaggi as an opponent if they do meet. The guy just clowned Ndou and shut him out, the guy who took Witter to a split decision.

I don't dismiss Witter as an opponent. He would be a reasonable fight, especially if he beats Harris in September (Harris would also be good if he wins). But so would plenty of others (Mbaye, Malignaggi, Holt, Hopkins). I don't think any of them have done enough to stand out from the crowd. And let's face it, if Hatton had taken on Witter instead of Castillo, the party line would have been "Witter is shot, he struggled mightily with Kotelnik and Lynes, why isn't he fighting xxxxxxx"?

As for Olusegun, this seems to be a clear case of repeat something often enough and people might start to believe it. Good he may be, but he isn't in the top ten or generally known other than by his fans. Hatton would be crucified in the press if he faced him, so I think we can forget about that one.

[GazOC]

aaargh! Its not often I make that sound, but thats how frustrated I am right now.



Welcome to my world mate. I got to that stage 2 pages ago, admittedly for different reasons, but I stuck with it.....:lol:

[ron u.k.]

you see the people who diss hatton and in some ways he deserves some stick,lose all credibility when they then champion someone like olusegun.what's this guy done to deserve this confidence?manage to beat the mighty gary reid and look shite in doing so over 12 laboured rounds,someone hatton would have out of there inside 3 rounds.olusegun's last 5 opponents have lost a combined total of 55 fights with something like only 19 knockouts combined between them(boxrec has it's uses)so they're obviously keeping him well away from punchers in padding his 20-0-0.why is this guy championed? witter i can understand i would like to see him fight hatton,but olusegun? do me a favour.

[pinpointzero]

Witter talks utter tripe. Sorry folks. For a boxer, he knows little about boxers and boxing. He just hates Hatton. If Ricky were fighting my pet Iguana he'd back the Iguana. No head/foot movement? Does he follow his own sport.. What a muppet!
As for Mayweather... Well to beat up Hatton he has to engage. Another unlikely scenario I'm afraid.

[Top Dog]

Hatton and Witter will NEVER meet. Personally I think Hatton would win, but it would be one of the worst fights ever, Witter would make Hatton look like a fudd in parts. I think Hatton is patiently waiting till Witter has lost his reflexes, then he will beat him easily enough, but up until then Hatton wont go near Witter. Is Witter a credible opponent?? Of course he feckin is, lets be honest Castillo was absolutly shot, fuck he made Hatton look good. If Witter aint good enough to take on Hatton, what can you say about Urango? I would be very surprised if Hatton went anywhere near Cotto, you dont exactly hear people calling him out. Cotto would have Hatton for breakfast. lunch, tea, supper, and just leave his arsehole for riding.

[GazOC]

Cotto is just too big for Hatton, at least with Mayweather you'd have a guy who was 147 at fight time rather than 154+.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Hatton and Witter will NEVER meet. Personally I think Hatton would win, but it would be one of the worst fights ever, Witter would make Hatton look like a fudd in parts. I think Hatton is patiently waiting till Witter has lost his reflexes, then he will beat him easily enough, but up until then Hatton wont go near Witter. Is Witter a credible opponent?? Of course he feckin is, lets be honest Castillo was absolutly shot, fuck he made Hatton look good. If Witter aint good enough to take on Hatton, what can you say about Urango? I would be very surprised if Hatton went anywhere near Cotto, you dont exactly hear people calling him out. Cotto would have Hatton for breakfast. lunch, tea, supper, and just leave his arsehole for riding.

hey its my ESB scottish brother Topdog:happy Good to see you back buddy:smoke

[Dunky McCafferty]

Welcome to my world mate. I got to that stage 2 pages ago, admittedly for different reasons, but I stuck with it.....:lol:

Its been a pretty mad thread, hasnt it:D I think everyone in this thread including myself has got wound up at one point!

[Leeroy]

Floyd Mayweather last night vowed to wipe the floor with Ricky Hatton.

The american legend fumed: "Ive never wanted to hurt an opponent like I do Hatton." Mayweather, 30 confirmed he will end his retirememt to set up a PPV blockbuster against the hitman.
Hatton shot from the lip on Sunday night after retaining his IBO light-welter title against Castillo, insisting that the fight had contained more excitement than pretty boys whole career.
Mut Mayweather rapped: "I was retired but I'll sign to fight hatton right now.
"I have tried to let the things he said about me slide by, but now hes dissing me on national TV & I want to shut him up.
"For me, boxing is a science- but it will be a pleasure to prove to the world what a great phoney the guy is.
"Hatton cannot fight. He cannot box. He throws one punch at a time & then holds. There is no skill to what he does in the ring. He has got zero skills. Hatton is the most over-rated fighter of the last 25 years. He beat an old Kostya Tszyu & he beat n old Castillo, who was shot.
"I beat Castillo twice and the first time I did it with one hand because the other was so messed up. That was five years ago when castillo was in his prime"

Hattons rival world 10stone champ champ Junior Witter is convinced Hatton, 28, would tke a pounding if he does get it on with Mayweather. the yorkshireman, 32 said "Ricky would get completely outboxed. I dont think he would get anywhere near Mayweather." & Witter is convinced pretty boy would wreck hattons reign- & his unbeaten 43 fight record.
The WBC champ added: "I dont believe Hatton would have as good a go as DLH. He hasnt got the movement to catch up with Mayweather.
"If you cant pin Mayweather down- & if you are not an extremely capable boxer at world level, then you have no chance. And that isnt what Ricky is about.
"hed get picked off & picked off as long as it lasted. I dont see hatton quitting, but I think he would quickly lose his edge. Id expect it to end with the referee stopping it"

Witter is desperate to fight hatton, claiming he hs been avoiding him for years. But he did not even bother staying up to watch Hatton dispose of Castillo.
Witter said "I didnt think it was going to be much of a fight. Castillo wasnt big enough and looked shot as a top level fighter in his previous outing. Ricky now says he wants a big fight in England but there wont be enough money for a Mayweather fight here. "Im the only big fight in Britain for Hatton. Its something that can definitely be done. Theres absolutely no reason why not. "Its all down to hatton. Wembley would suit me fine but I would fight him in manchester, his back garden, anywhere. Im not fussed- as long as the bell goes & its him and me"

Hatton hs been offered the chnce to fight IBF champ Malignaggi. The new yorker said "I can beat Hatton. hes so flawed, so one dimensional"


I believe it.....:yep

[Charles187]

For years i said that Witter did not deserve to share the same ring with Hatton until he actually fought someone of note.

Well now he has a cpl of good wins, WBC Belt and i honestly beleive he deserves a crack at Hatton as he has done everything asked of him......the fact the US tv dont want the fight shouldnt matter a toss - it is a scrap the British fans want to see so all i can say is F*ck off HBO.


Still think Witter is a twat and will get pummelled into retirement if they meet but hey, he now deserves to get the fight.

Are the british fans goin to stump up the mills that HBO give Hatton per fight? If not they need HBO. Why fight witter for 1 mill when you can get 3 for Mallignagi?

[brown bomber]

Hatton and Witter will NEVER meet. Personally I think Hatton would win, but it would be one of the worst fights ever, Witter would make Hatton look like a fudd in parts. I think Hatton is patiently waiting till Witter has lost his reflexes, then he will beat him easily enough, but up until then Hatton wont go near Witter. Is Witter a credible opponent?? Of course he feckin is, lets be honest Castillo was absolutly shot, fuck he made Hatton look good. If Witter aint good enough to take on Hatton, what can you say about Urango? I would be very surprised if Hatton went anywhere near Cotto, you dont exactly hear people calling him out. Cotto would have Hatton for breakfast. lunch, tea, supper, and just leave his arsehole for riding. I think Witter-Hatton has serious potential to be a thriller if Witter comes to fight which i'm sure he will. Urango was a completely different opponent to Witter and brought completely different attributes meaning the fight had to be approached in a certain way. Based on their last performances Cotto-Hatton is 50-50.

[Top Dog]

hey its my ESB scottish brother Topdog:happy Good to see you back buddy:smoke

I cant let you have all the fun now can I? :lol: :thumbsup

[Dunky McCafferty]

I cant let you have all the fun now can I? :lol: :thumbsup

I will be in touch soon TD, I need to pick your brains on a few things:D

BTW, we got the Coyle fight uploaded onto Youtube, so the world can see him now:smoke

[Toopretty]

Mayweather is going to fuck hattons ass up..you think hattons weak wannbee pressure can beat mayweather..what does hatton pressure with...a jab....no...punching..hell no..that is cotto.....he pressures with just walking in with no DEFENSE AT ALL and BEHIND NO JAB...Floyd can fight backwards and Hatton will get picked off..EVEN KOSTA TSYU'S trainer said hatton has no chance and that mayweather would stop him late..:vonnecunt :vonnecunt :vonnecunt :vonnecunt :tomb :tomb :tomb :tomb :tomb :tomb

[brown bomber]

Mayweather is going to fuck hattons ass up..you think hattons weak wannbee pressure can beat mayweather..what does hatton pressure with...a jab....no...punching..hell no..that is cotto.....he pressures with just walking in with no DEFENSE AT ALL and BEHIND NO JAB...Floyd can fight backwards and Hatton will get picked off..EVEN KOSTA TSYU'S trainer said hatton has no chance and that mayweather would stop him late..:vonnecunt :vonnecunt :vonnecunt :vonnecunt :tomb :tomb :tomb :tomb :tomb :tomb classy.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

you see the people who diss hatton and in some ways he deserves some stick,lose all credibility when they then champion someone like olusegun.what's this guy done to deserve this confidence?manage to beat the mighty gary reid and look shite in doing so over 12 laboured rounds,someone hatton would have out of there inside 3 rounds.olusegun's last 5 opponents have lost a combined total of 55 fights with something like only 19 knockouts combined between them(boxrec has it's uses)so they're obviously keeping him well away from punchers in padding his 20-0-0.why is this guy championed? witter i can understand i would like to see him fight hatton,but olusegun? do me a favour.




Ajose Olusegun beat Reid easily. Even Reid admitted he was for once able to prepare properly and was in the shape of his life and further said that Ajose was the best man he had faced a real world class operator. Reid came to grab the chance of a lifetime. Hatton would not have knocked out the Gary Reid who fought Ajose in 3 rounds. He would knock out an unprepared Gary Reid who comes in at late notice as as has happened in a lot of Reid's contest. The powerful Reid is what is known as live underdog as some prospects have found out.

Dunky, Top Dog and Jeff Thomas who did not know much about Ajose before and have now seen a little of him see that there is something there.

If Ajose was shite against Reid thenm Hatton I guess was a monster against Collazo and Urango was he?

If Hatton and Ajose fight I hope you are not crying when we kick his ass.

Ajose fight boxers, punchers, guys in higher weights etc. He is prepared for all comers period.

You can love your Bernard Manning fan Hatton all you want but class and talent will always prevail.

Fight a genuine contest Cotto, PBF, Ajose, Margarito & co and Hatton will be retired. He is a good fighter he is just not the super human his fans think he is.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Hatton and Witter will NEVER meet. Personally I think Hatton would win, but it would be one of the worst fights ever, Witter would make Hatton look like a fudd in parts. I think Hatton is patiently waiting till Witter has lost his reflexes, then he will beat him easily enough, but up until then Hatton wont go near Witter. Is Witter a credible opponent?? Of course he feckin is, lets be honest Castillo was absolutly shot, fuck he made Hatton look good. If Witter aint good enough to take on Hatton, what can you say about Urango? I would be very surprised if Hatton went anywhere near Cotto, you dont exactly hear people calling him out. Cotto would have Hatton for breakfast. lunch, tea, supper, and just leave his arsehole for riding.


Top Dog baby how are you doing brother. Thank God for your wise words and wisdom. You hit the bullseye. All the Hatton sycophancy is twaddle.

Long Live the Flower of Scotland.

Can you and Dunky let me know more about Willie Limond? Can he take Amir Khan on Saturday? I have never seen him fight.

[GazOC]

You're comparing a performance against Reid with a performance against Collazo?:lol: That really sums up difference between Hatton and Ajose at the moment....


As a wise man once said. "Arrrrggh"....:D

[brown bomber]

Olu I am kind of with Gazoc when it comes to making a comparison between Ajose and Hatton, Ajose definately has talent and looks like he is going to make some impact at world level but I feel your arguments about how good he is should stop short of calling out Hatton. At least until Ajose has put a couple of contenders onto his CV. Ajose is a good fighter- better then i think he showed against Reid but right now he needs to concentrate on trying to meet a contender like Maussa, Torres or Ndou then you've got more weight for your argument.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Olu I am kind of with Gazoc when it comes to making a comparison between Ajose and Hatton, Ajose definately has talent and looks like he is going to make some impact at world level but I feel your arguments about how good he is should stop short of calling out Hatton. At least until Ajose has put a couple of contenders onto his CV. Ajose is a good fighter- better then i think he showed against Reid but right now he needs to concentrate on trying to meet a contender like Maussa, Torres or Ndou then you've got more weight for your argument.

Jeff I respect your views as you already know. The point I am making which I think GazOC misses is that it is easy to dismiss contenders on the way up until they are given the opportunity. Remember no body gave Lloyd Honeyghan and Chris Eubanks a chance before they won the world titles.

Ajose has been avoided. It is not just me saying so it is a fact. Sceheduled bouts get cancelled. Personally Team Ajose would rather face ahighly ranked contender like the unbeaten Demetrius Hopkins than Maussa as Maussa does not really mean anything. After all if Ajose knocks him out it knocking out a guy who has been stopped a few times by Cotto and Hatton. Ali Nuumbembee had never been stopped prior to Ajose
stopping him.

Torres would be a good one but we will take the fight on its merits not for the WBO title Torres has which does not mean anything to us. I know the WBO means somethiing to Sports Network but it is the WBC title we aspire as it is the most prestigious. You will note Ajose has moved further up the WBC ratings as the combined African Boxing Union and Commonwealth Champion. This is the route people like Azumah Nelson have taken. My problem with GazOC is that he easily dismisses Ajose's merit holding such titles.

Hatton will probably never fight Ajose because his team don't fancy it and it is likely that by the time Ajose is a mandatory world contender or champion Hatton would already have suffered a severe loss.

My premise is a simple if you are a Junior Welterweight Ajose Olusegun will defeat. If you don't believe this call Frank Maloney, Ajose's promoter who will be only to happy to set it up.

["TKO"]

I think the thing you don't understand Olu is that, whilst I agree that Hatton will not face Olusegun anytime soon, it is not a case of anyone "not fancying it", it is a case of him simply not being on the radar. When you scan the division for contenders/champs who have established some sort of reputation at world level, you look at the Witter/Harris winner, Mbaye, Torres, Hopkins, Holt, maybe Lazcano. Ask anybody outside of his immediare circle what a Hatton-Olusegun fight would mean and you'll get "Ajose who?" That is why the fight will not happen anytime soon, it simply would not mean anything.

Let me ask, the way you write leads me to believe you are part of Ajose's team or else in some other way intimately connected to him. Is this the case? I honestly believe your outlandish claims about Hatton avoiding him are simply designed to make people sit up and take notice, look out for him. Whic, to be fair, has worked cos I'll certainly be keeping an interested eye out now.

[Smith]

Fight a genuine contest Cotto, PBF, Ajose, Margarito & co and Hatton will be retired. He is a good fighter he is just not the super human his fans think he is.

I can't believe youre putting Ajose alongside the big guns at welter right now, man are you blinkered. Im not saying he doesnt have potential but fuck me:verysad

[Olu G. Rotimi]

I think the thing you don't understand Olu is that, whilst I agree that Hatton will not face Olusegun anytime soon, it is not a case of anyone "not fancying it", it is a case of him simply not being on the radar. When you scan the division for contenders/champs who have established some sort of reputation at world level, you look at the Witter/Harris winner, Mbaye, Torres, Hopkins, Holt, maybe Lazcano. Ask anybody outside of his immediare circle what a Hatton-Olusegun fight would mean and you'll get "Ajose who?" That is why the fight will not happen anytime soon, it simply would not mean anything.

Let me ask, the way you write leads me to believe you are part of Ajose's team or else in some other way intimately connected to him. Is this the case? I honestly believe your outlandish claims about Hatton avoiding him are simply designed to make people sit up and take notice, look out for him. Whic, to be fair, has worked cos I'll certainly be keeping an interested eye out now.

TKO you have rumbled me brother.However I am not blinkered either. Ajose for my money is the coming man in this division. He was a world class amateur who is becoming a world class professional. Of course people want to see him in the highest class and this is what we are going to do As we are now highly ranked in the WBC we are starting to target the other top contenders as we proceed towards the WBC title. Witter can fight Ajose as a voluntary now but probably will opt not to when he can face the Arturo Mora's.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

I can't believe youre putting Ajose alongside the big guns at welter right now, man are you blinkered. Im not saying he doesnt have potential but fuck me:verysad

What because champions don't get beaten do they or that they are all unbeatable are they?

[Smith]

What because champions don't get beaten do they or that they are all unbeatable are they?

Im not saying that, no doubt the kid has skill, but in no way should you even be putting his name with them fighters yet. Ajose poses no benefit to Ricky whatsoever, both money and legacy wise, thats the damn truth, even if Oles would give him hell.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Im not saying that, no doubt the kid has skill, but in no way should you even be putting his name with them fighters yet. Ajose poses no benefit to Ricky whatsoever, both money and legacy wise, thats the damn truth, even if Oles would give him hell.


I see your point brother. It also goes to prove my point that perhaps Ajose is too good for his own good. However we will peserve as he is an exciting fighter to watch as well. Bags of skill but is also quite aggressive himself.

[brown bomber]

Olu no matter what you say the general publics view is not going to change till Ajose forces the change with a world class victory. Good luck you come across very polite on the forum and i hope you do well.

[stake501]

Olu...the point ppl are trying to make is...Ajose has to beat one of the other paper champions at 140 before he can fight the man (hatton). He may be three times as good as Hatton but the fight will not be made until he has some sort of resume to back up his skills.

Witter on the other hand has done that (won the WBC). IF he beats Harris then he has every right to expect a match with Hatton. Hatton should fight either PBF Cotto or Witter. It is that simple. I dont want to hear about Malignaggi. In fact a witter fight would be a great tune up to Cotto or PBF.

Witter has done things the hard way and now deserves his shot at Hatton. This will be a massive fight in the UK, dont let anyone tell you different.

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Olu...the point ppl are trying to make is...Ajose has to beat one of the other paper champions at 140 before he can fight the man (hatton). He may be three times as good as Hatton but the fight will not be made until he has some sort of resume to back up his skills.

Witter on the other hand has done that (won the WBC). IF he beats Harris then he has every right to expect a match with Hatton. Hatton should fight either PBF Cotto or Witter. It is that simple. I dont want to hear about Malignaggi. In fact a witter fight would be a great tune up to Cotto or PBF.

Witter has done things the hard way and now deserves his shot at Hatton. This will be a massive fight in the UK, dont let anyone tell you different.

I agree Hatton should have fought Witter and should fight him but it does not seem likely to happen. Also its got very quiet as regards Hatton facing PBF. I hate to be cynical but I am pretty sure Team Hatton will pick Malignaggi instead of Cotto, PBF,Witter .

Boy I wish they would make the best versus the best fights not mismatches.

[ron u.k.]

Ajose Olusegun beat Reid easily. Even Reid admitted he was for once able to prepare properly and was in the shape of his life and further said that Ajose was the best man he had faced a real world class operator. Reid came to grab the chance of a lifetime. Hatton would not have knocked out the Gary Reid who fought Ajose in 3 rounds. He would knock out an unprepared Gary Reid who comes in at late notice as as has happened in a lot of Reid's contest. The powerful Reid is what is known as live underdog as some prospects have found out.

Dunky, Top Dog and Jeff Thomas who did not know much about Ajose before and have now seen a little of him see that there is something there.

If Ajose was shite against Reid thenm Hatton I guess was a monster against Collazo and Urango was he?

If Hatton and Ajose fight I hope you are not crying when we kick his ass.

Ajose fight boxers, punchers, guys in higher weights etc. He is prepared for all comers period.

You can love your Bernard Manning fan Hatton all you want but class and talent will always prevail.

Fight a genuine contest Cotto, PBF, Ajose, Margarito & co and Hatton will be retired. He is a good fighter he is just not the super human his fans think he is.you assume that i'm up hatton's arse check my posts and you'll know different,but how can you champion this guy? all he does is fight big time losers,and he certainly doesn't fight punchers.get real at the end of the day your just a blind hugger.and i repeat hatton would have reid out of there inside 3 rounds.

["TKO"]

I agree Hatton should have fought Witter and should fight him but it does not seem likely to happen. Also its got very quiet as regards Hatton facing PBF. I hate to be cynical but I am pretty sure Team Hatton will pick Malignaggi instead of Cotto, PBF,Witter .

Boy I wish they would make the best versus the best fights not mismatches.


Malignaggi is a possibility for sure, but I don't see how this is a mismatch. The guy is an excellent fighter, he gave Cotto a very tough fight and absolutely clowned Lovemore Ndou, who took Witter to a SD. As for Witter, I don't get all this stuff about him doing things "the hard way". Okay if you mean from the perspective that he hasn't been given the fanfare and hype from an early age that some other fighters have. But in terms of opposition, he knocked out 14 guys who my granny could beat before getting gifted a title shot with Corley who had lost 3 of his last 6 and got KOd by an unknown in his next fight.

Anyway, if he beats Harris I'll give him his props. But right now there are plenty of fighters in the mix for Hatton: Witter/Harris, Mbaye, Malignaggi, Torres, Holt, Hopkins, Lazcano. There is not, IMO, any clear "top contender" from that list. Most of the bigger fights are at 147, but I'm undecided as to how Ricky would fare against the bigger guys at that weight, he is really a natural 140lber.

[GazOC]

You will note Ajose has moved further up the WBC ratings as the combined African Boxing Union and Commonwealth Champion. This is the route people like Azumah Nelson have taken. My problem with GazOC is that he easily dismisses Ajose's merit holding such titles.


Olu, I don't dismiss these titles (show me where I have?). The only thing against the Commonweath titles is that young British fighters tend to go down the WBO/ Intercontinental route these days, which is a bad thing IMO but its still a decent title.

We may disagree but don't put words in my mouth...

[Olu G. Rotimi]

Olu, I don't dismiss these titles (show me where I have?). The only thing against the Commonweath titles is that young British fighters tend to go down the WBO/ Intercontinental route these days, which is a bad thing IMO but its still a decent title.

We may disagree but don't put words in my mouth...

This is because the WBO/Intercontinental route is easier. At Commonwealth you might run into a dangerous foreigner like Ajose, Munyai, Action Jackson Asiku etc.

I realise now that you don't dismiss these titles which are a launching pad for fighters from those parts of the world to launch world title assaults. As for now Ajose wins and will continue to win. The best is yet to come.

[ron u.k.]

This is because the WBO/Intercontinental route is easier. At Commonwealth you might run into a dangerous foreigner like Ajose, Munyai, Action Jackson Asiku etc.

I realise now that you don't dismiss these titles which are a launching pad for fighters from those parts of the world to launch world title assaults. As for now Ajose wins and will continue to win. The best is yet to come.till he fights a live body

[Olu G. Rotimi]

till he fights a live body

Whatever Ron, when he kicks their arses hope you will then give him his due.

If you think Ajose is avoiding bigger punchers dream on. We don't avoid anybody. We will not be chomping at the bit to take on Ted Bami, Hatton or Witter if we avoid big punchers. Ajose has had to beat Light Middleweight and Welterweights often at late notice to get fights hardly the act of a protected fighter or one avoiding challenges.

Gary Reid known as the Cinderella man is a physically strong and powerful man who has knocked a number of prospects and is noted for his body punches and Ajose took him to school winning every round. Ajose became the body snatcher in this fight landed hurtful body shots on Reid as well as mixing it up beautifully to the head.

Its not my fault if you choose to be blind to what you see or ignorant of the facts.

Even Junior Witter has said Ajose is a serious and talented operator.

[brown bomber]

This is because the WBO/Intercontinental route is easier. At Commonwealth you might run into a dangerous foreigner like Ajose, Munyai, Action Jackson Asiku etc.

I realise now that you don't dismiss these titles which are a launching pad for fighters from those parts of the world to launch world title assaults. As for now Ajose wins and will continue to win. The best is yet to come.GAZ olu has a point here at commonwealth title level you have to deal with the up and coming Africans and with that continent you never know what they hve got up their sleave. Imagine been a up and comer whose 14-0 and just been fed a bunch of journeyman and then been forced to defend against a young Ike Quartey, ****** Juuko, Felix Bwala, David Tetteh, Simione Romani or a Munyai, Asiku or Ajose. If your an honest champion the Commonwealth title takes some maintaining.

[ron u.k.]

Whatever Ron, when he kicks their arses hope you will then give him his due.

If you think Ajose is avoiding bigger punchers dream on. We don't avoid anybody. We will not be chomping at the bit to take on Ted Bami, Hatton or Witter if we avoid big punchers. Ajose has had to beat Light Middleweight and Welterweights often at late notice to get fights hardly the act of a protected fighter or one avoiding challenges.

Gary Reid known as the Cinderella man is a physically strong and powerful man who has knocked a number of prospects and is noted for his body punches and Ajose took him to school winning every round. Ajose became the body snatcher in this fight landed hurtful body shots on Reid as well as mixing it up beautifully to the head.

Its not my fault if you choose to be blind to what you see or ignorant of the facts.

Even Junior Witter has said Ajose is a serious and talented operator.well olu if he suceeds i will give him all the props he deserves,i respect all boxers and don't have any particular one who i support more than others although naturally i like to see the brits do well.i look at the guys he's fighting and they're not exactly illuminaries but there again maybe he is being avoided.i will watch his progress with interest.

[GazOC]

GAZ olu has a point here at commonwealth title level you have to deal with the up and coming Africans and with that continent you never know what they hve got up their sleave. Imagine been a up and comer whose 14-0 and just been fed a bunch of journeyman and then been forced to defend against a young Ike Quartey, ****** Juuko, Felix Bwala, David Tetteh, Simione Romani or a Munyai, Asiku or Ajose. If your an honest champion the Commonwealth title takes some maintaining.

I agree with Olu (I've never disrespected the title) the Commonwealths are decent titles but are increasingly being avoided by British prospects (even the Euros are getting the same) because of the reason you give but also because the WBO, IBO etc are very lax at enforcing defences so managers can still pick and choose their fighters opponents. The Commonweath and Euros are a lot more strict and nomimating and enforcing mandatories.

[brown bomber]

I agree with Olu (I've never disrespected the title) the Commonwealths are decent titles but are increasingly being avoided by British prospects (even the Euros are getting the same) because of the reason you give but also because the WBO, IBO etc are very lax at enforcing defences so managers can still pick and choose their fighters opponents. The Commonweath and Euros are a lot more strict and nomimating and enforcing mandatories.Sorry Gaz completely misred your point- I guess Steve Murray hit me a little harder then i first thought.

[GazOC]

No worries mate!:good

[Olu G. Rotimi]

No worries mate!:good

Okay guys another excellent debate with a wide range of views aired.

If anyone is interested you can see an article in the Ring's magazine new faces about Ajose Olusegun written by Evan Korn. It is an excellent article.

Also Ajose has got up to number 11 in the WBC ratings. A certain Mr Ricky Hatton is at number 1 in the WBC ratings. I assume this is because Hatton gave up the IBF title to face Castillo hence the WBC were able to put him back in the ratings.

[UndisputedUK]

Olu...the point ppl are trying to make is...Ajose has to beat one of the other paper champions at 140 before he can fight the man (hatton). He may be three times as good as Hatton but the fight will not be made until he has some sort of resume to back up his skills.

Witter on the other hand has done that (won the WBC). IF he beats Harris then he has every right to expect a match with Hatton. Hatton should fight either PBF Cotto or Witter. It is that simple. I dont want to hear about Malignaggi. In fact a witter fight would be a great tune up to Cotto or PBF.

Witter has done things the hard way and now deserves his shot at Hatton. This will be a massive fight in the UK, dont let anyone tell you different.

Yep, a really huge fight, they tell us it isn't, but it is! It should be on ITV for eveyone in the UK to see down the pub on Saturday night. :yep

[Dunky McCafferty]

:rofl

Its actually quite funny that you brought this particular post up DGP, as nemesis took a cheap shot at me this week on the lounge about how I made one of the most idiotic posts he had ever seen when i was tlking about football.

Oh the irony:lol:

[GazOC]

Thank fuck I kept my feet on the ground with my prediction....;)

[GazOC]

DGP, if you're going to search though the forum and pull up everytime someone got a fight prediction wrong then you're in for a looooong night.

[GazOC]

Most Hatton fans had him down as a live underdog, which I think was a fair assessment.

[GazOC]

Thanks for confirming my original opinion of you:good

[joekirkbycobra]

this was ages ago why is it still on the first page

[Strike]

I am a Hatton fan why don't you pull up my prediction?

[brown bomber]

Someone please find my prediction!!! I believe it was perfect ;-)