What is next for Lucian Bute? Whom should he fight next? And which Top fighter first?

[Decebal]

What are your thoughts?

Which of the top fighters that Bute might want to fight/should fight do you think would want to fight him?

[Amsterdam]

He should fight Mikkel Kessler. This time my under 10.5 won't even get close.:D

[Maxime]

What I would like: Andrade, Miranda, Lacy or Zuniga.

What we'll probably get: Beyer, Sanavia or Haussler.

[Decebal]

What I would like: Andrade, Miranda, Lacy or Zuniga.

What we'll probably get: Beyer, Sanavia or Haussler.

....how about Braehmer? Better than Beyer, Sanavia or Haussler?

[Amsterdam]

What I would like: Andrade, Miranda, Lacy or Zuniga.

What we'll probably get: Beyer, Sanavia or Haussler.

Vs. Andrade - Andrade wins

Vs. Miranda - Bute by KO

Vs. Lacy - A ruined Lacy loses, a refreshed Lacy wins.

Vs. Zuniga - Bute by stoppage.

[C Money]

He should fight Mikkel Kessler. This time my under 10.5 won't even get close.:D


True the loser of JC vs MK is still relevant.:D

[Decebal]

Vs. Andrade - Andrade wins

Vs. Miranda - Bute by KO

Vs. Lacy - A ruined Lacy loses, a refreshed Lacy wins.

Vs. Zuniga - Bute by stoppage.

How would Bute do against:

Mundine, Froch, Inkin?

[Maxime]

Quote from an article:

He will likely make an optional defence early in the new year, but must face the No. 1 contender within nine months.

Matchmaker Don Majesky said likely opponents for the optional would be Stieglitz, Christian Sanavia of Italy or Librado Andrade of Mexico.

[Decebal]

Quote from an article:

Let's go for Andrade then! Best out of the bunch!:good

[Darien]

He should fight Inkin.

[Decebal]

He should fight Inkin.

I would love to see him against a boxer like Inkin...he has done awkward streetfighters - Bika ad he has done punchers - Berrio - he should do a boxer next!:good

[Maden]

What about Mads Larsen? Good solid fighter on a comeback run...

[T.C.W]

beyer, a nice name and he would win easy bute.

[Decebal]

I don't think Bute should fight NAMES or fighters outside the top 15...and he shouldn't go for easy fights...if he does, what would be the point of supporting him or appreciating what he does? Bute needs to fight top, live oppositon that poses a threat to him!

[LFC]

He should fight Tsypko next. He deserves his shot at a title, is a decent fighter and has shown that he's willing to travel.

I don't think Inkin is a possibility unless Bute is willing to fight in Germany.

[van the man]

andrade, mundine or larsen

[JJ]

1 Mundine
2 Lacy
3 Inkin
4 Froch
5 Andrade

997 Sanavia
998 Haussler
999 Manfredo

[Decebal]

He should fight Tsypko next. He deserves his shot at a title, is a decent fighter and has shown that he's willing to travel.

I don't think Inkin is a possibility unless Bute is willing to fight in Germany.

Bute should be willing to travel, but he shouldn't travel to make his first defence - it's just unfitting - and he certainly shouldn't travel to Germany, ever, unless he plans on KOing the guy and nothing else...we all know why, I think.;)

[Decebal]

1 Mundine
2 Lacy
3 Inkin
4 Froch
5 Andrade

997 Sanavia
998 Haussler
999 Manfredo

:lol: I agree with the spirit of your post! he should fght the best! I would be very proud if he gave Mundne/Lacy a go in his frist defence, although I wouldn't expect him to go right for the top in his first defence (joe and mikkel excluded, of course)!:yep

[LFC]

Bute should be willing to travel, but he shouldn't travel to make his first defence - it's just unfitting - and he certainly shouldn't travel to Germany, ever, unless he plans on KOing the guy and nothing else...we all know why, I think.;)

:D I do, but I think Germany has become more fair these last years. It was far worse when the good looking guy in my avatar was still active. ;)

[Decebal]

:D I do, but I think Germany has become more fair these last years. It was far worse when the good looking guy in my avatar was still active. ;)

I don't doubt what you are saying, but still, travelling to Germany of all places for your first defence is a definite No, NO! Bute fights out of Montreal, not Galati - he shouldn't have to travel yet...Interbox are doing a great job of builidng up a boxing scene around Bute, Diaconu, Bergeron...why wreck the good work? To fight a fighter past his prime?

[LFC]

I don't doubt what you are saying, but still, travelling to Germany of all places for your first defence is a definite No, NO! Bute fights out of Montreal, not Galati - he shouldn't have to travel yet...Interbox are doing a great job of builidng up a boxing scene around Bute, Diaconu, Bergeron...why wreck the good work? To fight a fighter past his prime?

I agree. Bute deserves to have his first defence at home, in Montreal.

[Odo]

What are your thoughts?

Which of the top fighters that Bute might want to fight/should fight do you think would want to fight him?

Vitaly Tsypko is his mandatory,isnt he?

I would recomend Bute to travel over to Germany to showcase his skills there as the big bucks at his weight division are made in Europe and not in the USA or Canada.
Robert Stieglitz would be a good opponent for Bute.
Stieglitz is quite known in Germany,a decent opponent,but not really a top fighter.

[Decebal]

Vitaly Tsypko is his mandatory,isnt he?

I would recomend Bute to travel over to Germany

Let Tsypko come to Montreal!:nod

Until Germany becomes whiter than white, no one should go there unless he really has to!

Es ist nur recht und billig - das wollen wir doch mal klarstellen!;)

[Odo]

Let Tsypko come to Montreal!:nod

Until Germany becomes whiter than white, no one should go there unless he really has to!

Es ist nur recht und billig - das wollen wir doch mal klarstellen!;)

Of course Tsypko will have to travel to Canada.He is no draw in Germany,and his promoter doesnt seem to be that fond of spending too much money on him.I like him,but have to admit that his style is rather boring and not really fun to watch.

As for Germany a fighter fights wherever he can earn more bucks.Money is the name of this game,and every fighter tries to make as many bucks in as short as time as possible.
Germany isnt as bad as its reputation.Have seen lots of fights in Germany,the Czech Republic,Belarus,England,and Spain.
Of course a hometown boy is always favoured by the judges,but all in all Germany isnt the worst place for a fighter out there.
Generally spoken, I for my part dont like the German fight crowds that much.
They seldom support any undercard fighter,not even their own compatriots.
What a difference-for example-compared with countries like the Czech Republic and Spain!
I love the Czech Republic!
Fight fans are always fair there,feverishly support their compatriots,and never shout abusive or offensive slogans.
And unlike my Belarussian fellows they are still able to drive a car afer they have left the arena.Most Belarussian fight fans are totally drunk after 2 hourse of watching boxing.

[Decebal]

I love the Czech Republic!
Fight fans are always fair there,feverishly support their compatriots,and never shout abusive or offensive slogans.
And unlike my Belarussian fellows they are still able to drive a car afer they have left the arena.Most Belarussian fight fans are totally drunk after 2 hourse of watching boxing.

:lol: :good Yeah...crowds in Germany act as if they are at the Opera, but at least they are civilised and don't boo the opposition that much.

[Maxime]

I think a fight against Tsypko would be good but I don't think it will happen now.

Tsypko is the highest ranked supermiddleweight in the IBF right and will most likely be Bute's mandtory unless there is another title eliminator in the near future.

Tsypko would be an relatively "safe" mandatory challenger and fighting him now would only men having to fight a more dangerous madatory challenger in 9 months.

In other words if Bute fights Tsypko now he's going to have to make his mandatory defense against someone else. I think.

[Jambon]

Andrade would be a big fig in Montreal since he retired good old Otis. A nice name on the resume and 12 rounds of looking good.

Beyer is shit and a waste of time, he might as well beat up a 12 year old.

Froch will probably want to wait until he is mandatory.

Lacy would also be a nice win for him, my second choice after Andrade.

I beleive Mundine to be out?

Other contenders are pretty much on even grounds in my eyes.

[van the man]

Andrade would be a big fig in Montreal since he retired good old Otis. A nice name on the resume and 12 rounds of looking good.
12 rounds of looking good:huh im not even sure bute would last 8 rounds!

[THN]

He should go to Germany and figth one of the smw there Stieglitz, Brahmer, Inkin or Larsen, why not Kessler went to australia for he's first defence against Mundine, if you think you are good go for the best!

[boxfan99]

Bute would box Andrade's ears off

:good

[Decebal]

He should go to Germany and figth one of the smw there Stieglitz, Brahmer, Inkin or Larsen, why not Kessler went to australia for he's first defence against Mundine, if you think you are good go for the best!

My problem is not so much with fighting the German fighters part, but with the going to Germany part...

[THN]

My problem is not so much with fighting the German fighters part, but with the going to Germany part...
I know it's a risk but the money is good, and if you belive in yourself what's the problem. Thats exatly why i'm a fan of Kessler, going for the best anywhere anytime, Sydney, Cardiff who cares, "i'm not figthing the crowd, thank god, but only the opponent" Kessler yesterday, when asked about figthing in Wales, would be a problem for him.:good

[boxfan99]

I know it's a risk but the money is good, and if you belive in yourself what's the problem. Thats exatly why i'm a fan of Kessler, going for the best anywhere anytime, Sydney, Cardiff who cares, "i'm not figthing the crowd, thank god, but only the opponent" Kessler yesterday, when asked about figthing in Wales, would be a problem for him.:good

Germany is a completely different matter! If Kessler ever fought in Germany he would be an idiot if you ask me. You can easily "win" in Germany and still lose. In Germany you don't fight the crowd either, but you are often fighting the opponent, the ref and the judges at the same time.:yep

[THN]

Germany is a completely different matter! If Kessler ever fought in Germany he would be an idiot if you ask me. You can easily "win" in Germany and still lose. In Germany you don't fight the crowd either, but you are often fighting the opponent, the ref and the judges at the same time.:yep

Is Cardiff better?:rofl

[boxfan99]

Is Cardiff better?:rofl

A little bit.

Let me give you an example. If Kessler-Mundine had taken place in Germany and Mundine had been a German home fighter then Kessler would most likely have lost a close decision by SD or MD.

[henrik]

:bbb i think mads larsen would be a great fight larsen says he wants to fight the top smw,and i also think he could give bute a good fight.
mundine is out for some time...give larsen the chance

[TomaTos]

Vs. Andrade - Andrade wins

Vs. Miranda - Bute by KO

Vs. Lacy - A ruined Lacy loses, a refreshed Lacy wins.

Vs. Zuniga - Bute by stoppage.

No way Andrade beat Bute, Berrio beat Andrade..., prime Lacy ? we have to see him at prime first...

[boxfan99]

No way Andrade beat Bute, Berrio beat Andrade..., prime Lacy ? we have to see him at prime first...

Andrade would beat Berrio, but I do agree with you on the other points. I assume you meant 'back at prime' regarding Lacy.

[TomaTos]

Yeah..., i've seen Berrio destroy Mack couple of fight ago, the same Mack that give Andrade hell for some rounds, how can Andrade beat Bute if Mack almost did beat Andrade ? Stillwise, Mack and Berrio are similar, Bute is way too good for Andrade, Berrio is better than you guys think.

[Maxime]

He should go to Germany and figth one of the smw there Stieglitz, Brahmer, Inkin or Larsen, why not Kessler went to australia for he's first defence against Mundine, if you think you are good go for the best!

Kessler went to Australia for because of a 7 figure payday.

I doubt Sauerland would offer the same to Bute for a defense against Stieglitz or Inkin or Larsen.

But, I might be wrong.

[achillesthegreat]

One or two ok defences. He won't get to fight Calzaghe-Kessler win but he might get the loser. He'll only get a major bout if he can suddenly make a name for himself.

[Tiger Svoboda]

decebal, you have been one of the best supporter of Bute for a while now, i am too, but I think you have too much expectation for his first and second title defenses. It is so hard to put your hands on a title that I think Interbox will want to cash it now. I think the strategy for the next year until his fist mandatory will be low risk-medium reward type of fighter. Therefore, they will be looking for the best name that is not really a threat for Bute. Your objective is to see best fights possible (i would like too) but for interbox, the objective is to full up the bell center and keep the title as long as they can. It's a bussiness.

That being said, I think the first name on the list is Beyer. He is shit now but everybody in québec dream to see him get a beating because of the Lucas robbery in Germany. Beyer in MTL (will never happen) could draw 20 000+, even more than Calzaghe would. Sanavia is marketable because he once won over Beyer. Andrade is highly marketable because he once won over Otis Grant. You get my point?

Your expectations are legitimate, but bottom line what really matter is how many Joeblow pay to see the fight. Nobody care if the hardcore internet fans are happy or not.

I think you will see Bute takes high risk fights when HBO will put some cash on the table, if that ever happen.

Just my opinion

[TomaTos]

For what it is..., Bute pick Kessler a month ago to beat Calzague. He told people today that he switch is mind, even tho Kessler school is friend Lucas, he think that Calzague is going to beat kessler.

Bute is a big boxing fans, ive seen him several time at "brasserie au coin du métro" in montreal.

[gambleer]

I would like to see Bute fight Manfredo. :!:

[boxfan99]

Yeah..., i've seen Berrio destroy Mack couple of fight ago, the same Mack that give Andrade hell for some rounds, how can Andrade beat Bute if Mack almost did beat Andrade ? Stillwise, Mack and Berrio are similar, Bute is way too good for Andrade, Berrio is better than you guys think.

I have never said that Andrade would beat Bute! I actually said the exact opposite. I did say that Andrade would beat Berrio though.

[Quik]

Andrade-Berrio would be fun to watch.

[Decebal]

decebal, you have been one of the best supporter of Bute for a while now, i am too, but I think you have too much expectation for his first and second title defenses. It is so hard to put your hands on a title that I think Interbox will want to cash it now. I think the strategy for the next year until his fist mandatory will be low risk-medium reward type of fighter. Therefore, they will be looking for the best name that is not really a threat for Bute. Your objective is to see best fights possible (i would like too) but for interbox, the objective is to full up the bell center and keep the title as long as they can. It's a bussiness.

That being said, I think the first name on the list is Beyer. He is shit now but everybody in québec dream to see him get a beating because of the Lucas robbery in Germany. Beyer in MTL (will never happen) could draw 20 000+, even more than Calzaghe would. Sanavia is marketable because he once won over Beyer. Andrade is highly marketable because he once won over Otis Grant. You get my point?

Your expectations are legitimate, but bottom line what really matter is how many Joeblow pay to see the fight. Nobody care if the hardcore internet fans are happy or not.

I think you will see Bute takes high risk fights when HBO will put some cash on the table, if that ever happen.

Just my opinion


Hmmm...I understand your point; it is legitimate. I understand it is a business...but they Interbox must understand Bute too. I don't think Bute would be happy fighting low to medium threat fighters for big bucks just to make some money. I might be wrong, but this is the feeling I get from him. I think he is better than that. I think he wants to prove that he is improving and fighting better and better fighters...and look at Kessler...if you keep fighting the best, evetually you will get the big fights for the big money too!

...Let me put it this way...if Bute makes X number of defenses in his career...I don't want people down the line to say: "Bute fought bums" or "whom has Bute fought?"...and I think neither does he...

...he might not be ready for the big time, and that is OK...he is only 27 and at the beginning of the year he was still fighting Tatevosyan...but as long as he keeps improving and fighting better and better opponents, not every single time, but every second fight or so...that is good for boxing and good for his morale. I keep stressing this because the thing that makes Bute special, above all, I feel, is his morale, self-respect and self-esteem...lose that and he has lost much that made him special. Just my two cents, as the Americans put it!:good

[Tiger Svoboda]

fair enough

take care

[Decebal]

fair enough

take care

:thumbsup

[drvooh]

Vs. Andrade - Andrade wins

Vs. Miranda - Bute by KO

Vs. Lacy - A ruined Lacy loses, a refreshed Lacy wins.

Vs. Zuniga - Bute by stoppage. I agree with all but 1 = I think Bute beats Andrade:hi:

[hitman_hatton1]

froch. :yep

how did bute look tonight then???

aside from the brutal KO of course. :yep

[hitman_hatton1]

WBO : Joe Calzaghe England

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Armo_Ruski]

vitali tyspko or inkin....

[brooklyn1550]

Anybody but Calzaghe or Kessler. Inkin, Andrade, Lacy, and Tsypko would all be fine choices. Give Lucian a year or two and I think he would be more prepared to face Calzaghe or Kessler. Especially an aging Calzaghe assuming they fought in 2009 (if of course Calzaghe hasn't retired by then).

[crashzzz]

Hmmm...I understand your point; it is legitimate. I understand it is a business...but they Interbox must understand Bute too. I don't think Bute would be happy fighting low to medium threat fighters for big bucks just to make some money. I might be wrong, but this is the feeling I get from him. I think he is better than that. I think he wants to prove that he is improving and fighting better and better fighters...and look at Kessler...if you keep fighting the best, evetually you will get the big fights for the big money too!

Why wouldn't avenging his boss's robbery make Bute happy?

A Beyer fight would be very popular here in quebec... Sure Beyer wouldn't mean much on Bute's resume, but it will win him more fans though... And that's what boxing is really about no? winning fans...

[PH|LLA]

Why wouldn't avenging his boss's robbery make Bute happy?

A Beyer fight would be very popular here in quebec... Sure Beyer wouldn't mean much on Bute's resume, but it will win him more fans though... And that's what boxing is really about no? winning fans...
Beyer wouldn't take this fight. I think he's doing well in terms of money and he doesn't need to take a fight that he knows he can't win.

don't forget beyer hasn't fought in over a year when he was brutally demolished by Kessler

[crashzzz]

Beyer wouldn't take this fight. I think he's doing well in terms of money and he doesn't need to take a fight that he knows he can't win.

don't forget beyer hasn't fought in over a year when he was brutally demolished by Kessler
Well.... Beyer won't fair any better against Calzaghe than he did against Kessler, leaving him one last option, and that would be Bute.

If he doesn't want to fight for a title anymore, than he should retire.

[PH|LLA]

Well.... Beyer won't fair any better against Calzaghe than he did against Kessler, leaving him one last option, and that would be Bute.

If he doesn't want to fight for a title anymore, than he should retire.
i think he has

[crashzzz]

i think he has
hehehe

Anyways, I think the real question is where does Bute want to focus his exposure?

The american market? or the european market?
essentially that will dictate who he should fight next...

For the americain market, a Allen Green, Andrade, Miranda would be good names...

Whereas for the european market, a Stieglitz, Tsypko, Sanavia would be good.

[Maxime]

I honestly think Green would be too expensive to bring to Montreal for a title defense. He wanted a 1/4 million to fight Bute last year. :patsch

I think as far as a first title defense. We're looking at an "easy" opponent like most champions do after winning the title. Some kind of homecoming celebration and a nice payday for Bute and his promoter.

Guys like Sanavia, Bozic, Beyer, etc....

Then for the second title defense in the spring. It will be against a guy well known in the USA.

Andrade, Miranda, Lacy, Green, etc...

Then in the summer a mandatory title defense probably against Tsypko.

Then maybe a unification bout against who ever are the champions at that time.

[.trunzx]

I'd like to see him shut Frochs big mouth. :good

[teekay00]

:D I do, but I think Germany has become more fair these last years. It was far worse when the good looking guy in my avatar was still active. ;)

the guy with the mustache? lol

Froch

[Decebal]

I honestly think Green would be too expensive to bring to Montreal for a title defense. He wanted a 1/4 million to fight Bute last year. :patsch

I think as far as a first title defense. We're looking at an "easy" opponent like most champions do after winning the title. Some kind of homecoming celebration and a nice payday for Bute and his promoter.

Guys like Sanavia, Bozic, Beyer, etc....

Then for the second title defense in the spring. It will be against a guy well known in the USA.

Andrade, Miranda, Lacy, Green, etc...

Then in the summer a mandatory title defense probably against Tsypko.

Then maybe a unification bout against who ever are the champions at that time.

The earliest that Bute will fight next is March 2008 (he said so himself). This gives him time to improve properly and take on someone good. If he does decide to take a fight in summer it will probably be in Romania - thus...June/July...if not...his second and last fight of the year would be in October/November, I think. If two fights, he would have a long time to prepare for each and fight someone good. If three, he might not push the boat out so far....But four fights in 2008? No way.

[bulakenyo]

Hi ya, decebal? Long time no see on the lounge. :hi:


Congratulations on your main man Lucian, man. :thumbsup

[Decebal]

Hi ya, decebal? Long time no see on the lounge. :hi:


Congratulations on your main man Lucian, man. :thumbsup

Thank you, mate! :good Don't post on the lounge anymore...

Congratulations to Lucian!:yep

[Odo]

I honestly think Green would be too expensive to bring to Montreal for a title defense. He wanted a 1/4 million to fight Bute last year. :patsch

I think as far as a first title defense. We're looking at an "easy" opponent like most champions do after winning the title. Some kind of homecoming celebration and a nice payday for Bute and his promoter.

Guys like Sanavia, Bozic, Beyer, etc....

Then for the second title defense in the spring. It will be against a guy well known in the USA.

Andrade, Miranda, Lacy, Green, etc...




Then in the summer a mandatory title defense probably against Tsypko.

Then maybe a unification bout against who ever are the champions at that time.



You are right,maxime! Bozic would be a good opponent for Bute.
The Croat is relatively highly ranked,defeated Lolenga Mock in his last fight,doesnt demand a high purse to travel over the ocean ,and is a decent fighter,but doesnt play in Bute's league.

[crashzzz]

According to rds, Andrade's team has already contacted Interboxe and shown interest.

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

[Maxime]

I think it could make a good fight on the undercard of a Goldenboy card next summer. Perhaps on the undercard of Delahoya's next fight in may.

Bute makes a first title defense in febuary and then fights Andrade in may on HBO. That would be a pretty good plan.

[Tiger Svoboda]

We also have to consider that Bute is not a rich man yet. he should piles his pension plan first and works on his legacy thereafter. Guys like kessler and Calzaghe only became what they are after after 30 or 40 fights. The fight with berrio was his 21.

[Orang-Utan Jim]

I think Bute vs. Brahmer would be a really good fight of two prospects. Brahmer got better technical skills than Bute, but he might be not that tough....would be intersting to know....

[boxfan99]

We also have to consider that Bute is not a rich man yet. he should piles his pension plan first and works on his legacy thereafter. Guys like kessler and Calzaghe only became what they are after after 30 or 40 fights. The fight with berrio was his 21.

Both Calzaghe and Kessler became champs at 25 unlike Bute who are 27, so they had a couple more years to become big names. Calzaghe became champ in his fight no.23, which is pretty close to Bute. Kessler had 34 fights before winning the WBA title, but you have to take into account that he turned pro at 19 with only 47 amateur fights on his back, and he had to gain a lot of experience as a pro hence more pro fights before his first title fight.

[JJ]

I dont get how you can be a fan of Bute and then want him to meet Sanavia or Manfredo, dont you have any faith in your man???

Im not saying that he should meet Calzaghe or Kessler right away, but why make a step down, making that easy defences, he is the champion of the world in one of the 3 big ones ffs!

[Maxime]

The earliest that Bute will fight next is March 2008 (he said so himself). This gives him time to improve properly and take on someone good. If he does decide to take a fight in summer it will probably be in Romania - thus...June/July...if not...his second and last fight of the year would be in October/November, I think. If two fights, he would have a long time to prepare for each and fight someone good. If three, he might not push the boat out so far....But four fights in 2008? No way.

Who said he would fight 4 times? :nut

:D

[Maxime]

I dont get how you can be a fan of Bute and then want him to meet Sanavia or Manfredo, dont you have any faith in your man???

Im not saying that he should meet Calzaghe or Kessler right away, but why make a step down, making that easy defences, he is the champion of the world in one of the 3 big ones ffs!

It's not about what we want. It's about how boxing works.

Like I said many times. Most new champions will make at least 1 "easy" title defense after winning a title for the first time.

Hopkins fought Steve Frank (15-2-0). Result: TKO1
Chad Dawson fought Jesus Ruiz (19-4-0). Result: TKO6
Joe Calzaghe fought Branko Sobot (14-1-0). Result: TKO3
Jeff Lacy fought Omar Sheika (26-6-0). Result: UD12
etc..
etc...
etc....

[Decebal]

Who said he would fight 4 times? :nut

:D

Ok...in an interview in the Romanian press he said, after beating Berrio, that the earliest he would fight is March. Then, I read on canoe that it might be in February...if so, Bute won't have time to prepare properly after coming back from Christmas in Romania...and it would be someone outside the Top 12. That would not be so hot, after Bika and Berrio...it would lose Bute some precious momentum. However, maybe he needs an easier time, after Bika and Berrio, to impress his fans against less dangerous and awkward competition.

Why cannot Bute make good money fighting in March against a live opponent like Lacy or Andrade and become even more well known in the process? Of course he can...If Bute fights in February in my view it will be against Beyer, sold as the revenging of Lucas, in a popular feel-good move for his home fans...But if he fights in February, the first live threat he could face would be in June-July, when everyone is away on holiday...of course, this means he could fight in Romania, in front of all the expatriates returning for their summer holidays...but in Romania, it wouldn't be against someone big...So we're realistically talking of his first proper fight being his mandatory defence, in autumn 2008...against Tsypko...

Or do you think he could fight Beyer in February, someone in the Top 10 in June and then Tsykpo in autumn?:think

[Maxime]

Fighting in Montreal in May or June is not a problem at all.

18000 boxing fans went to see Ngoudjo-Bailey and Bute-Bika in a one week period.

I think Interbox will want to make at least one title defense in Montreal and then they might accept to defend the title somewhere else if the money is good. I beleive Golden Boy Promotions might throw money at Bute to get him to defend his title against Andrade in Vegas this summer. Possibly on the undercard of Delahoya's next fight on Cinco de Mayo.

Then if he wins that fight. Bute would defend against Tsypko in the fall.

[Decebal]

Fighting in Montreal in May or June is not a problem at all.

18000 boxing fans went to see Ngoudjo-Bailey and Bute-Bika in a one week period.

I think Interbox will want to make at least one title defense in Montreal and then they might accept to defend the title somewhere else if the money is good. I beleive Golden Boy Promotions might throw money at Bute to get him to defend his title against Andrade in Vegas this summer. Possibly on the undercard of Delahoya's next fight on Cinco de Mayo.

Then if he wins that fight. Bute would defend against Tsypko in the fall.

Beyer, Andrade and Tsypko would be acceptable for 2008, right, Maxime?

[Maxime]

Yes,

Today his trainer mentioned that they will make two title defense before fighting the mandatory challenger. They said his next fight will be in February.

He said they want to fight a big American name in one of those two fights.

It's looking good I think.

[Decebal]

Yes,

Today his trainer mentioned that they will make two title defense before fighting the mandatory challenger. They said his next fight will be in February.

He said they want to fight a big American name in one of those two fights.

It's looking good I think.

If Andrade counts as American and if it's Lacy or Andrade as the second optional defense before Tsypko, then I guess that is acceptable...but it would be even better if

1. Froch fights Tsypko first, and the winner challenges for the mandatory...and if

2. Lucian's first optional is against someone in the Top 15...and Beyer is not just not a live thread; he is de facto retired...wouldn't be much of a defense...Alan Green - another American (!!!) -on the other hand, would fit the bill too, but he wants much too much money, right? Still, Green, Andrade/Lacy and then Tsypko/Froch - depending on how much Froch wants to fight Bute - would be a very good first year for Bute.

(Of course, Inkin and Froch or Mundine would be much better!!)

What say you, Maxime?:think

[boxfan99]

If Andrade counts as American and if it's Lacy or Andrade as the second optional defense before Tsypko, then I guess that is acceptable...but it would be even better if

1. Froch fights Tsypko first, and the winner challenges for the mandatory...and if

2. Lucian's first optional is against someone in the Top 15...and Beyer is not just not a live thread; he is de facto retired...wouldn't be much of a defense...Alan Green - another American (!!!) -on the other hand, would fit the bill too, but he wants much too much money, right? Still, Green, Andrade/Lacy and then Tsypko/Froch - depending on how much Froch wants to fight Bute - would be a very good first year for Bute.

(Of course, Inkin and Froch or Mundine would be much better!!)

What say you, Maxime?:think

I'll have to say that fighting a fit Mundine at this point in Butes career would spell dissaster if you ask me. Bute should wait at least a year for such a fight. But it won't happen anyway, because it would mean that Mundine would have to give up his regular WBA belt, which is either a mandatory to the Cal-Kes winner or a full championship if the winner should relinquish the WBA Super title. Mundine would be an idiot (I know he is an idiot, but then an even bigger idiot;) ) to part with his WBA regular belt at the moment.

[Decebal]

I'll have to say that fighting a fit Mundine at this point in Butes career would spell dissaster if you ask me. Bute should wait at least a year for such a fight. But it won't happen anyway, because it would mean that Mundine would have to give up his regular WBA belt, which is either a mandatory to the Cal-Kes winner or a full championship if the winner should relinquish the WBA Super title. Mundine would be an idiot (I know he is an idiot, but then an even bigger idiot;) ) to part with his WBA regular belt at the moment.

yeah...especially since he doesn't seem to be fully fit...

[boxfan99]

yeah...especially since he doesn't seem to be fully fit...

He will be fit, that eye injury has been blown way out of proportions. Of course it will make Mundine look that much better when he makes a succesful "comeback" against some Argentinian cab driver.:yep

[Decebal]

He will be fit, that eye injury has been blown way out of proportions. Of course it will make Mundine look that much better when he makes a succesful "comeback" against some Argentinian cab driver.:yep

:lol:...yeah, neither of the two might want to fight each other in the next year or so...

[BigAl87]

On RDS they said that they also received an offer from Stieglitz but I don't see why Bute would want to fight him.:huh

[PH|LLA]

On RDS they said that they also received an offer from Stieglitz but I don't see why Bute would want to fight him.:huh
Steiglitz is no tomato can. This is good experience for Bute, and he is building up a profile so he can command big purses against top opposition. Its important for a top boxer to have a few good knockouts and impressive wins against B level opposition so that he can impress fans and make big fights.

[PrideOfWales]

Steiglitz is a decent fight - should be fairly run of the mill. I'd keep him away from Lacy, Froch, Inkin & Mundine for now - Tsypko would be a good fight, experience against a tough southpaw.

Braehmer is nothing special but has a half-decent record. I'd go with Tsypko.

[BigAl87]

Steiglitz is no tomato can. This is good experience for Bute, and he is building up a profile so he can command big purses against top opposition. Its important for a top boxer to have a few good knockouts and impressive wins against B level opposition so that he can impress fans and make big fights.
I get your point but the way I look at it why make a optional defense against Stieglitz , I know he's not a bad fighter at all but when I see this guy lose 2 of the 8 rounds like he did against Marlon Hayes I mean he's not that good either, I've seen Hayes live in Montreal and let me tell ya he aint a world class fighter. Even though Stieglitz was ahead aginst Berrio on the judjes scorecards when lost and even if he won a TKO on the 11th round in their first fight, I don't see this guy as being a challenge at all . His boxing skills are limited compare to other fighter Bute already faught. I would like to see a defence that will make Lucian progress a little more.

Lucian did not fail to impress me so far ;) and I want to him step it up just a little.

IMO he's ready for Andrade who's been completely outboxed by Kessler. If Andrade is willing to come to Montreal to fight Bute, why not!
He already came for Grant for Mandatory wbc title eliminator.

I don't say that Lucian is as good as Kessler yet but he would defenitly win over Andrade. It would give him a chance to compare himself with the very best.

Bravo Lucian!:happy:happy

[Lead Right]

Mundine has a title so would not be fighting Bute. Anyhow Mundine has another $5 Million fight with Green lined up next year for the IBO light heavy title.

[Maxime]

Mundine has a title so would not be fighting Bute. Anyhow Mundine has another $5 Million fight with Green lined up next year for the IBO light heavy title.

Not to mention the paper belt that Mundine has can not be unified. :yep

[PrideOfWales]

Not to mention the paper belt that Mundine has can not be unified. :yep

The battle of the paper champions... how intriguing.

It would be like the 3rd & 4th place play off at the World Cup that apparently happens.

[dumdane]

True the loser of JC vs MK is still relevant.:D

Yeah - but i don't think JC will extend his career beyond a loss just to fight Bute.

[Decebal]

It would be like the 3rd & 4th place play off at the World Cup that apparently happens.

In that case, Bute would definitely be Argentina!:p

[boxfan99]

In that case, Bute would definitely be Argentina!:p

Then I'm afraid Argentina would lose at the moment. I'm still a big Bute fan, I'm just trying to be realistic and the more I compare them the more convinced I become that Mundine (injury free) would beat Bute right now.

[Decebal]

Then I'm afraid Argentina would lose at the moment. I'm still a big Bute fan, I'm just trying to be realistic and the more I compare them the more convinced I become that Mundine (injury free) would beat Bute right now.

You may well be right! :good I wouldn't contradict you on this one. Also, just because I want Bute to take the fight doesn't mean that I necessarily think he would win it; on the other hand, I don't want him to take it because I want him to lose...I simply want to see him involved in good fights against top opposition.

Mundine is not getting any younger and I doubt that he will be at his peak for much longer...But if Bute would have the upperhand against a still live Mundine in a year or two, then, of course I would rather they fought then.:D