View Full Version : Poor Performance by Mundine
If Mundine fought the way he did last night against Kessler or any of the top guys in the division he would get beaten, and beaten badly. To take a guy on the level of Neivas the distance is down right embarrassing. He proved that he doesn't posses the offensive arsenal to trouble the top guys. He couldn't put his combinations together, even against a guy who just stood in front of him not throwing at times, and he defended without counter punching for long periods of time. He didn't use angles, wouldn't let his hands go, and really used a very limited range of shots. Mundine is going backwards fighting opponents like this.
IrnBruMan
06-27-2007, 06:48 PM
If Mundine fought the way he did last night against Kessler or any of the top guys in the division he would get beaten, and beaten badly. To take a guy on the level of Neivas the distance is down right embarrassing. He proved that he doesn't posses the offensive arsenal to trouble the top guys. He couldn't put his combinations together, even against a guy who just stood in front of him not throwing at times, and he defended without counter punching for long periods of time. He didn't use angles, wouldn't let his hands go, and really used a very limited range of shots. Mundine is going backwards fighting opponents like this.
There's already an excuse been thought up mate - he has a torn bicep according to what I've read on here this morning :lol:
Marcus
06-27-2007, 06:49 PM
He didnt look like a "word champ" did he.
But what round did he hurt his arm?
I dont like him on bit , but you cant fight with a torn bicep :-(
Dr Gonzo
06-27-2007, 07:01 PM
yeah his standard seems to be dropping - as with anything, when the challenge is less the mind adapts to that standard. I fore see in the next year and a half just continuous "warm up fights" against bums, a beating by someone good and then a change in weight division with his tail between his legs
There's already an excuse been thought up mate - he has a torn bicep according to what I've read on here this morning :lol:
As soon as I saw the ice pack on the arm after the fight I knew something was going to happen like that. Its rubbish. He was throwing punches okay, it was how he was putting them together, and the angles he was using and types of punches that really stank. It was not a world champion effort that is for sure, and it was certainly not a world champion opponent.
Kegsy
06-27-2007, 07:49 PM
Mundine was being way too complacent against Nievas.
I agree with the rest, this sort of performance if anything makes his career go backwards.
doddster
06-27-2007, 07:50 PM
in my opinion i thought he was just going through the motions.i thought he used angles pretty good and got himself in position to apply pressure but i agree he didnt let his hands go.how embarrassing for nievas to only land a handful of clean punches in the entire fight?
boxfan99
06-27-2007, 09:15 PM
in my opinion i thought he was just going through the motions.i thought he used angles pretty good and got himself in position to apply pressure but i agree he didnt let his hands go.how embarrassing for nievas to only land a handful of clean punches in the entire fight?
I think it is more embarrasing for Mundine to pick such an opponent.
planetzion
06-27-2007, 10:11 PM
As soon as I saw the ice pack on the arm after the fight I knew something was going to happen like that. Its rubbish. He was throwing punches okay, it was how he was putting them together, and the angles he was using and types of punches that really stank. It was not a world champion effort that is for sure, and it was certainly not a world champion opponent.
:rofl :rofl :rofl for fuck sake some of the shit your read in this place....no one said he was an a+ fighter Mundines last two fights were world class performances namley he ktfo out of soliman a guy that made winky wright look ordinary (you remeber that dont you did you post ABOUT WINKY AFTER THAT????) and put on an absolute clinic over danny green....which if yu had watched it was an exceptional display.
I could name an 'average fight' on the resume of any of the top ten p4p list
Stop hatin its all over your posts.
planetzion
06-27-2007, 10:18 PM
Mundine was being way too complacent against Nievas.
I agree with the rest, this sort of performance if anything makes his career go backwards.
KEGSY ffs stop being a dickhead....he pitched a shut out was it pefect??? No ....it wasnt but it was still a beat down how the hell does it make his career go backwards????
Think up injteliigent stuff to post did Hattons fights against Collazo and Urango (both of which were less then perfect) make his career go backwards???
Since when does staying busy in the ring make you go backwards???
Hatton came back and put it all togther in a big fight as has mundine recently with Green and Soliman and which he will again when he faces other big names.
relax and go hug a lama :rofl :hi:
There's no 2 ways about it, if you can hang in there early with Mundines speed, then i have no doubt towards the middle to late rds if you pressure him than he will struggle.
Nievis showed signs of that last night the only problem was he's a B grader...........tough as but certainly a lvl below the top guys.
planetzion
06-27-2007, 10:24 PM
I think it is more embarrasing for Mundine to pick such an opponent.
As its been posted so many times....in between big names and big fights let him square off against who evr the fuck he wants to ???
Have you guys forgot his last two fights were beat downs on both danny green and sam soliman very tought fights in anyones book...just ask winky wright.
Fact is I have no doubt Mundine is looking for the big names just as much as anyone else ...its like Khoder nasser said in interview it takes months if not years to negotiate the big fights we all know that if someone wants to stay busy then so be it .....boxing fans have got to be the most critical fans in the world
Kegsy
06-27-2007, 10:28 PM
KEGSY ffs stop being a dickhead....he pitched a shut out was it pefect??? No ....it wasnt but it was still a beat down how the hell does it make his career go backwards????
Think up injteliigent stuff to post did Hattons fights against Collazo and Urango (both of which were less then perfect) make his career go backwards???
Since when does staying busy in the ring make you go backwards???
Hatton came back and put it all togther in a big fight as has mundine recently with Green and Soliman and which he will again when he faces other big names.
relax and go hug a lama :rofl :hi: I agree mate Mundine looked good at times yes, but i just felt he didnt send the right signal to his rivals by taking the fight the distance.
Especially since that Mundine is in his prime.
Still tho i give credit to Nievas, showed a much bigger heart than any of us would have thought.
As its been posted so many times....in between big names and big fights let him square off against who evr the fuck he wants to ???
Have you guys forgot his last two fights were beat downs on both danny green and sam soliman very tought fights in anyones book...just ask winky wright.
Fact is I have no doubt Mundine is looking for the big names just as much as anyone else ...its like Khoder nasser said in interview it takes months if not years to negotiate the big fights we all know that if someone wants to stay busy then so be it .....boxing fans have got to be the most critical fans in the world
get your tounge out of his ass u have no arguement dude refering to past fights and green and solimon were tough fights but with the boasting he has been doing fans would be expecting him to face his mandatory or at least someone in the top 10
boxfan99
06-27-2007, 10:31 PM
:rofl :rofl :rofl for fuck sake some of the shit your read in this place....no one said he was an a+ fighter Mundines last two fights were world class performances namley he ktfo out of soliman a guy that made winky wright look ordinary (you remeber that dont you did you post ABOUT WINKY AFTER THAT????) and put on an absolute clinic over danny green....which if yu had watched it was an exceptional display.
I could name an 'average fight' on the resume of any of the top ten p4p list
Stop hatin its all over your posts.
That was not his last two fights. He fought another nobody (Acosta, the guy who drew with Nievas) in between Green and Soliman.:yep
planetzion
06-27-2007, 10:38 PM
That was not his last two fights. He fought another nobody (Acosta, the guy who drew with Nievas) in between Green and Soliman.:yep
ohh yeah thanks for that you mean the guy he dropped with a body shot.....???
point still stands my friend ....people are wayyyyy too quick to jump on the critical band wagon fact is all boxers take av opponents in between big fights and I dont hold it against anyone...
we should start worring when the really struggle againts an everage guy which mundine hasnt .....were you complaining when winky stuggled against soliman ???
planetzion
06-27-2007, 10:46 PM
get your tounge out of his ass u have no arguement dude refering to past fights and green and solimon were tough fights but with the boasting he has been doing fans would be expecting him to face his mandatory or at least someone in the top 10
umm who said he was not planning to fight his mandatory in the future???? :huh
... or looking for bigger opponants for his upcoming fights??? :huh
His last fight was a beat down of Soliman???? Fuck dude that one fight ago ???? If he spnds the rest of his career fighting tomato cans then you have a very point and ill agree with you but for now I wont critisize the guy. He has done well cred where cred is due.
So sorry to burst yr bubble but the arguments valid....
boxfan99
06-27-2007, 10:46 PM
ohh yeah thanks for that you mean the guy he dropped with a body shot.....???
point still stands my friend ....people are wayyyyy too quick to jump on the critical band wagon fact is all boxers take av opponents in between big fights and I dont hold it against anyone...
we should start worring when the really struggle againts an everage guy which mundine hasnt .....were you complaining when winky stuggled against soliman ???
Yes, you are right in some respect, everybody takes easier fights in between big fights I'll give you that, but there is a difference between how easy these fights are, for instance Kessler fought Lucas as an "easy" opponent, Calzaghe fought Bika and Manfredo, and Mundine fought Acosta and Nievas. I hope you can see that both Kesslers and Calzaghes "easy" opponents are of a lot higher quality than Mundines. Don't get me wrong I think Mundine is a top 4 fighter in SMW, but I don't like his choice of easy opposition and his big mouth which he doesn't back up.
Btw Winky didn't struggle with Soliman that is an exaggeration, they had a pretty close fight that Winky won without a doubt, and Mundine has struggled and even lost to a guy who wasn't that much above average, namely Siaca.
:rofl :rofl :rofl for fuck sake some of the shit your read in this place....no one said he was an a+ fighter Mundines last two fights were world class performances namley he ktfo out of soliman a guy that made winky wright look ordinary (you remeber that dont you did you post ABOUT WINKY AFTER THAT????) and put on an absolute clinic over danny green....which if yu had watched it was an exceptional display.
I could name an 'average fight' on the resume of any of the top ten p4p list
Stop hatin its all over your posts.
I feel like I am playing duck duck goose here, except every single person I talk to is a goose. GOOSE. GOOSE. GOOSE. Now that I have that cleared up, it is a world title defence. You can't just decide to have the night off mate. The fight was an embarassment. It should never have been sanctioned. Mundine should have never gone the distance with him. He wants to make a claim as being in the top3 in the division, but any one of the top 5 guys would have KTFO of Neivas in less then 5. Deal with it.
Marcus
06-27-2007, 10:48 PM
god it hasnt been a day and im already over the whole fuckin thing
Yes, you are right in some respect, everybody takes easier fights in between big fights I'll give you that, but there is a difference between how easy these fights are, for instance Kessler fought Lucas as an "easy" opponent, Calzaghe fought Bika and Manfredo, and Mundine fought Acosta and Nievas. I hope you can see that both Kesslers and Calzaghes "easy" opponents are of a lot higher quality than Mundines. Don't get me wrong I think Mundine is a top 4 fighter in SMW, but I don't like his choice of easy opposition and his big mouth which he doesn't back up.
Exactly. I criticized JC for fighting the two mentioned. But even then they are LEAGUES above the guys Mundine has decided to fight. It is a joke.
Does Jermain Taylor take easy fights? HOw about Miguel Cotto? or Ricky Hatton? or Winky Wright? or Bernard Hopkins? or Mikkel Kessler? ... Even the guys that do have a "tune up" usually make it a live body.I have no problem with that. And they still usually beat them as expected. When they don't, they get criticized. As expected. What do you think happened to Judah when he lost to Baldomir. Do you think everyone sung his praises? Mundine deserves to be criticized for his performance. Enough said.
planetzion
06-27-2007, 10:52 PM
Yes, you are right in some respect, everybody takes easier fights in between big fights I'll give you that, but there is a difference between how easy these fights are, for instance Kessler fought Lucas as an "easy" opponent, Calzaghe fought Bika and Manfredo, and Mundine fought Acosta and Nievas. I hope you can see that both Kesslers and Calzaghes "easy" opponents are of a lot higher quality than Mundines. Don't get me wrong I think Mundine is a top 4 fighter in SMW, but I don't like his choice of easy opposition and his big mouth which he doesn't back up.
on a lunch break so ill have to leave it with ya but i cant agree he doesnt back it up???? As i said to some guy b4 Soliman was one fight ago??? And he beat the shit out of him thats backing it up ....I have spoke to mundines father in daringhurst recently and they are keen to face JC and Kessler (kessler contrary to opions in this board doesnt want to rematch mundine) but that shit takes time we all know that.
Final point - IF MUNDINE IS FIGHTING NO BODYS FOR THE REST OF HIS CAREER THEN GRANTED YOU HAVE A POINT but that has not been the case and it remains to be seen what the future holds until I know that ill give credit where credit is due. Nuff siad ta for the reply.
on a lunch break so ill have to leave it with ya but i cant agree he doesnt back it up???? As i said to some guy b4 Soliman was one fight ago??? And he beat the shit out of him thats backing it up ....I have spoke to mundines father in daringhurst recently and they are keen to face JC and Kessler (kessler contrary to opions in this board doesnt want to rematch mundine) but that shit takes time we all know that.
Final point - IF MUNDINE IS FIGHTING NO BODYS FOR THE REST OF HIS CAREER THEN GRANTED YOU HAVE A POINT but that has not been the case and it remains to be seen what the future holds until I know that ill give credit where credit is due. Nuff siad ta for the reply.
We are criticizing his performance though. CAN YOU SEE THAT. He fought a bum, and couldn't knock him out. Therefore it was a poor performance.
So let me get this straight. Mundine won by 10 rds look ok but there are some people on here that want to believe his torn bicep is some kind of excuse for what exactly...?
:lol::lol:
Marcus
06-27-2007, 10:57 PM
I hope you dont work yourself into a state MSTR.
You know the saying about arguing with fools mate :good
planetzion
06-27-2007, 10:58 PM
Does Jermain Taylor take easy fights? HOw about Miguel Cotto? or Ricky Hatton? or Winky Wright? or Bernard Hopkins? or Mikkel Kessler? ... Even the guys that do have a "tune up" usually make it a live body.I have no problem with that. And they still usually beat them as expected. When they don't, they get criticized. As expected. What do you think happened to Judah when he lost to Baldomir. Do you think everyone sung his praises? Mundine deserves to be criticized for his performance. Enough said.
dude umm judah lost???? thats why he got roasted he turned up half baked and embraessed him self....mudine has dominated evry opponant he has faced recently........even the danny greens and sam solimans as well the last night the guys he fought in between.
ffs you carrying on like it was a close fight??? It was a beat down....Constructve critism is a good thing but thats not where your coming from you sound like your typicle asshole boxing fan.
sorry gotto go at work thanks for the stoush ...peace
We are criticizing his performance though. CAN YOU SEE THAT. He fought a bum, and couldn't knock him out. Therefore it was a poor performance.That logic i have problems with. Bums arent always chinny therefore you wont knock them all out. Go back through history and see what i mean.
you make good points mate but most of the stuff you stated about him technique wise you must have already realised? mundine doesnt work the angles.. (reason why i think winky is a bad match up), doesnt throw in combinations.. isnt much of a body puncher (despite what michaels says) doesnt really have a hook. Mundine's fight is the lighning jab, the well timed over hand right and the occasional uppercut. this is his arsenal.. not hating or hugging but that's how he fights and it wasnt much different when he had good performances against soliman and green.
the thing that worried me the most in this fight was his inability to get out of trouble. when nievas was putting the pressure on in the 5th mundine could not get a counter off or get out off the ropes. admittedly not much landed but he didnt throw a punch for about 45 seconds and if it had have been kessler he would have hit the canvas imo.
all in all i dont think he went backwards in this fight. merely did a satisfactory job against a c+ fighter. i dont think you'll be able to tell where he is going until he steps up and fights a real opponent.
Really good post mate. Glad someone can watch a fight and be half objective about it.
That logic i have problems with. Bums arent always chinny therefore you wont knock them all out. Go back through history and see what i mean.
But this guy has been knocked down by far lessor oponents. Did you realise that? Regardless, when someone is this far out of their league they should VERY RARELY go the distance.
But this guy has been KO'd by far lessor oponents. Did you realise that?Yes i knew that. It doesnt mean he gets KO'd by everyone. This was his biggest fight and probably prepared accordingly. Anyway I didnt see the fight. I just want someone to mash Cottos head into the ground.
But this guy has been knocked down by far lessor oponents. Did you realise that? Regardless, when someone is this far out of their league they should VERY RARELY go the distance.sad! you just edited after i responded :lol:
sad! you just edited after i responded :lol:
hahahah STFU.....
04eta
06-27-2007, 11:38 PM
Yes i knew that. It doesnt mean he gets KO'd by everyone. This was his biggest fight and probably prepared accordingly. Anyway I didnt see the fight. I just want someone to mash Cottos head into the ground.
Didn't Barry Michaels mention in the commentary that he had been down 4 or 5 times in his previous fights?
PorkChopExpress
06-28-2007, 12:07 AM
Is it not possible that we all saw Nievas boxrec record and slightly underrated him? Like, by no means should he be considered rated at all... but maybe we (and Nasser, and Mundine) took him for a first day on the job in Cairo cabbie, when he probably ranks more towards outer-suburbs Sydney cabbie with a couple of good rides under his belt...
tills9191
06-28-2007, 12:27 PM
Yes i knew that. It doesnt mean he gets KO'd by everyone. This was his biggest fight and probably prepared accordingly. Anyway I didnt see the fight. I just want someone to mash Cottos head into the ground.
why the hell would u know COTTO?? to get smashed?? the guy is a humble good bloke... r u feeling ok?
why the hell would u know COTTO?? to get smashed?? the guy is a humble good bloke... r u feeling ok?Nah man I just want MSTR to feel some pain, he knows why i said it. Cotto seems like a nice character and is all business in the ring but like i said i want MSTR to feel some pain :yep
Nah man I just want MSTR to feel some pain, he knows why i said it. Cotto seems like a nice character and is all business in the ring but like i said i want MSTR to feel some pain :yep
:vonnecunt:vonnecunt
Does it scare you teke when you look at the company that you keep on these boards as a proud mundine supporter (nuthugger:D). The man 247, choc 1, Eels Rule ect. I am still trying to work out if you are the rose among the thorns, or the best of a bad bunch:lol::lol:
:vonnecunt:vonnecunt
Does it scare you teke when you look at the company that you keep on these boards as a proud mundine supporter (nuthugger:D). The man 247, choc 1, Eels Rule ect. I am still trying to work out if you are the rose among the thorns, or the best of a bad bunch:lol::lol:MSTR if you havent noticed these arent new blokes they have been around a long time under multiple usernames. They have been here even when you were flying that old RJJ Olympics avatar years ago. Muttley knows them well :yep
I feel pain when they are harassed because at the end of the day Mundines cream...err i mean Mundine will rise to the top :deal and i know they will have the last laugh.
Onward and upwards Huggers :happy:happy:happy
In all seriousness :cool: - I actually follow alot of fighters and have a good dvd collection from every era it's just Mundine has that X factor charisma that gets the blood flowing in conversations that i like to get involved in.
MSTR if you havent noticed these arent new blokes they have been around a long time under multiple usernames. They have been here even when you were flying that old RJJ Olympics avatar years ago. Muttley knows them well :yep
I feel pain when they are harassed because at the end of the day Mundines cream...err i mean Mundine will rise to the top :deal and i know they will have the last laugh.
Onward and upwards Huggers :happy:happy:happy
In all seriousness :cool: - I actually follow alot of fighters and have a good dvd collection from every era it's just Mundine has that X factor charisma that gets the blood flowing in conversations that i like to get involved in.
I used to read some of the posts back in the day. Guys like speedy and jet and gav and several others seem very similar to these guys.
In seriousness I realise you know more about boxing then just Mundine. Its just a shame some of these guys don't. It would save a lot of time. Like when they believe that he is a true top 15 fighter (Neivas). Or that he is the fastest fighter to ever live. Or that he is p4p no.1 ect
I used to read some of the posts back in the day. Guys like speedy and jet and gav and several others seem very similar to these guys.
In seriousness I realise you know more about boxing then just Mundine. Its just a shame some of these guys don't. It would save a lot of time. Like when they believe that he is a true top 15 fighter (Neivas). Or that he is the fastest fighter to ever live. Or that he is p4p no.1 ect:lol::lol:
Key is to stay away from those topics :yep
PorkChopExpress
06-28-2007, 10:00 PM
I feel sometimes that the dicks that support Mundine with us aren't deserving enough to be proven right in the end. They are blinded by his apparent brilliance and forget he has to work hard to get there so they jump the gun and pretend he's already there...
On that note... I will be sharing the beer with them when it happens. Lucky for you guys we're actually a nice bunch and will only rub it in for a few years as opposed to a good 10 - 20 or so! We may even shout a few rounds for yas!
IrnBruMan
06-28-2007, 11:38 PM
:lol::lol:
Key is to stay away from those topics :yep
:lol: :lol: :lol:
great post mate
nutsauce garggling cum swappers how nice :oops:
oztriker
06-29-2007, 01:24 AM
nutsauce garggling cum swappers how nice :oops:
I hope that they will be really happy together:oops:
We can blame Gav for all this shit.:twisted:
Tell him to get off his arse and get his site up and running again.:roll:
BoppaZoo
06-29-2007, 01:38 AM
you make good points mate but most of the stuff you stated about him technique wise you must have already realised? mundine doesnt work the angles.. (reason why i think winky is a bad match up), doesnt throw in combinations.. isnt much of a body puncher (despite what michaels says) doesnt really have a hook. Mundine's fight is the lighning jab, the well timed over hand right and the occasional uppercut. this is his arsenal.. not hating or hugging but that's how he fights and it wasnt much different when he had good performances against soliman and green.
the thing that worried me the most in this fight was his inability to get out of trouble. when nievas was putting the pressure on in the 5th mundine could not get a counter off or get out off the ropes. admittedly not much landed but he didnt throw a punch for about 45 seconds and if it had have been kessler he would have hit the canvas imo.
all in all i dont think he went backwards in this fight. merely did a satisfactory job against a c+ fighter. i dont think you'll be able to tell where he is going until he steps up and fights a real opponent.This is a Great Post.
Mundine does have holes in his boxing skills.
and one of the biggest holes i believe is he is affraid to let his hands go.
i mean he had nievas hurt in about the 6th or 7th round. and still he was to affraid to let his hands go.
i kept saying to my friends if he uses his uppercut more i bet he will catch Nievas but through the hole fight he only used it a couple times. but everytime he used the uppercut it was effective.
His Jab is World Class but you cant rely on a jab to get you through against guys like Calzaghe and Kessler.
Great post.
EelsRule
06-29-2007, 04:47 AM
Yeah, I agree with this even to the point regarding Mundine not being able to get out of trouble. I've been level headed about this fight. It barely says anything about Mundine and were he is at. I admit during those occasions Mundine was under pressure and against the ropes I was thinking what the hell, just get out of there and or counter. I am curious about whether Mundine is deficiant in this area, which he may have admited to in the post fight interview, or whether he is working on something in view of bigger fights.
These nut crunches sweet on something negative and really suck it dry as has been seen here. If they were more intelligent they would have kept in touch with reality (being Mundine kicked this guys arse as expected and looked typically good). They would have focused on Mundines injury, which is a bad sign for a 32 year old, and might be a sign of decline.
Scatter
06-29-2007, 04:56 AM
So let me get this straight. Mundine won by 10 rds look ok but there are some people on here that want to believe his torn bicep is some kind of excuse for what exactly...?
ok first off - i don't think it's just an excuse. i'll dig a pic if i can find one, but post fight, his upper arm was swollen as fuck. and i'm willing to bet big money he hurt it during the fourth round...
as for the reason behind it being "used as an excuse"... well... it was a pretty ordinary performance tbh.
there were a couple of positives though: his jab, footwork and defence were all for the most part excellent - even taking into account he was fighting a bloke my granny would have beat up. and... errr... that's it.
the negatives far outweigh the positives. he was fighting a bum. i cannot believe peeps are giving this guy credit for going the distance. he only went the distance because mundine couldn't be arsed to put him away on any one of the ample opportunities he had to do so. nievas was gone in the second round. mundine backed off - solely in order to carry the fight a few rounds more. he was gone for all money again at the end of the fourth. again mundine backed off. this time though, i think it was because of his arm, as mundine came out in the fifth carrying his right a little low, and only really throwing the left jab - and that was only after nievas had finally landed a shot or two. mundine really approached the fifth round as an chance to get an extra three minutes rest. when nievas didn't play along with that, mundine had to fight back. nievas was out on his feet again in the seventh. he was saved by the bell that time, but really, if mundine had of done a little more, he could - and should - have finished the fight then. he was badly staggered again in one of the later rounds, the tenth i think, and again, same story. choc didn't go in and finish.
you could spin that as a positive for mundine - he carried the fight, hurt his opponent several times, just didn't wanna finish him - but it would be absolute bollocks. iirc, only the damage in the second round was caused by a serious right hand shot. the rest were from short arm punches or left leads. hardly evidence of a granite chin. it was clear after 30 seconds that nievas was so far out of his depth it just wasn't funny.
another negative was mundine's workrate. even allowing for the bicep, the one jab at a time policy is just rampant laziness. his jab is lighhtning quick, and quite heavy. yet his obstinate refusal to use it as a lead-in weapon rather than throwing it as a one off all the time was doing my fucking head in on wednesday night.
nutsauce it all you like - and barry michaels face was covered in choc jisms by the end o fthe night i reckon. the dickhead even proclaimed it as mundines best ever performance ffs - this was a poor performance despite it being a relatively entertaining fight. the victories over soliman (especially) and green were far superior both technically and certainly meritoriously.
just as the haters should stop mking shit up, so too should the huggers stop creaming over substandard performaces (and opponents) like this. if he was serious about this fight, mundine would have ended in the second when he clearly had the chance to do so. he deserves criticism for carrying the fight a few rounds and that backfiring on him, not praise.
BoppaZoo
06-29-2007, 05:49 AM
Top Post Scatter.
If Mundine wants to be elite.
He needs improving in alot of area's. i just couldnt believe that he didnt throw his uppercut more.
i seen choc throw it about 5 times and everytime Nievas after getting hit by the uppercut wanted to back away.
i believe Choc strained his bicep and it is pretty serious i feel especially for a boxer. its like when a Footy player strains a Hamstring they cant run at all and need 3 weeks off footy.
all i will say Mundine's lucky he did'nt tear it off the bone.
i think Mundine lacks the killer instinct for boxing i mean most fighters if they hurt Nievas would have went to town on him.
and in the fight Mundine rocked him twice i feel and never went in for the kill and he should have.
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