Can you imagine what Fedor would have...

[sonofdarkness]

Done to sylvia or vera? oh my he would have killed both of them on the same night. As if he would just sit there and let tim hold him against the cage.He would have pushed him off and crushed his skull. Man Tim is a lazy fighter. Big nog will kill him in one round!

[geppy]

Fedor is very good, at putting an end to holding shit quick, with a take down . That is what Russian Sambo is all about.

[boxingcar]

It was a very disappointing fight. Not that i was expecting the fight of the year or anything but it was VERY boring.
Personally i kept thinking about Antonio Nogueira when i was watching that shit...

Antonio's gas tank > Vera and sylvia's..
Antonio's BJJ > Vera and sylvia
Antonio's striking > see above...
Antonio's chin > no surprises here...

i fucking hate this hw division...

I guess the positive aspect in all of this is that Fedor won't be there to ruin Nogueira's career again.

[ufoalf]

I guess the positive aspect in all of this is that Fedor won't be there to ruin Nogueira's career again.


:rofl:rofl

[Mankind]

Fedor wants no part of Randy C.

I know that for a fact

[sonofdarkness]

Fedor wants no part of Randy C.

I know that for a fact

Yeah he wants no part of a guy with a 50 percent loss ratio. He must be scared lol. Come have some common sense.

[bhwbj]

Could I imagine what Fedor would have done to Silvia or Vera?? No I can't, but I fully expect guys like you to tell me what Fedor would have/could-have done. I'm tired of hearing about Fedor.

Look at what happened to Cro-Cop, and Shogun( to forrest griffin no less...) Steroid abuse was rampant in Japan, and these guys are shells of themselves over here in the US where they KNOW they will be rigorously tested.

I would have loved to see Courture work Fedor, but Fedor won't fight over here( esp after watching CroCOp and Shogun( another guy that was supposed to be unstoppable in the UFC ) )

[curmudgeon]

Look at what happened to Cro-Cop, and Shogun( to forrest griffin no less...) Steroid abuse was rampant in Japan, and these guys are shells of themselves over here in the US where they KNOW they will be rigorously tested.


Are you implying that Fedor is on steroids?

Rigorously tested my ass. There are no tests for HgH.

[ufoalf]

Could I imagine what Fedor would have done to Silvia or Vera?? No I can't, but I fully expect guys like you to tell me what Fedor would have/could-have done. I'm tired of hearing about Fedor.

Look at what happened to Cro-Cop, and Shogun( to forrest griffin no less...) Steroid abuse was rampant in Japan, and these guys are shells of themselves over here in the US where they KNOW they will be rigorously tested.

I would have loved to see Courture work Fedor, but Fedor won't fight over here( esp after watching CroCOp and Shogun( another guy that was supposed to be unstoppable in the UFC ) )

Fedor is your favorite fighter's favorite fighter.

[scurlaruntings]

Look at what happened to Cro-Cop, and Shogun( to forrest griffin no less...) Steroid abuse was rampant in Japan, and these guys are shells of themselves over here in the US where they KNOW they will be rigorously tested.

Dude stop talking out of your ass. A statement like that really shows how much you know about steroids.Do you think the NSAC have it locked down? Its EASY to cycle on and off in a matter of days/hours. ANYONE can pass a sample test providing they have the right information and knowledge on the drug there taking. There is NO EVIDENCE to prove that Shogun or Cro Cop were on any illegal supplements.Either way it makes no diffrence to there natural talent in the ring.

[eddie007]

Fedor wants no part of Randy C.

I know that for a fact

WHAT A FUCKING DICKHEAD.....Randy c had his arse handed to him by chuck liddel for fuck sake, please wake up and realise randy c would get destroyed by Fedor.:patsch :patsch :patsch

[sonofdarkness]

I think some of you guys should watch his fights. Fedor has been rocked a few times and he came to destroy them. He is a complete fighter. He does let guys hold them in a clinch like randy does or he would let tim hold him against the cage he would push him off and smash him in the face. Yeah cro cop did not live up to what he was supposed to but he has got his ass handed to him before. Feodr has not. Shogun will be back he just got beat that night. Do not get me wrong randy is a good fighter but he has lost half of his fights for fuck sakes.

[Club Fighter]

I think some of you guys should watch his fights. Fedor has been rocked a few times and he came to destroy them. He is a complete fighter. He does let guys hold them in a clinch like randy does or he would let tim hold him against the cage he would push him off and smash him in the face. Yeah cro cop did not live up to what he was supposed to but he has got his ass handed to him before. Feodr has not. Shogun will be back he just got beat that night. Do not get me wrong randy is a good fighter but he has lost half of his fights for fuck sakes.

Sometimes Fedor cheats and grabs the ropes for reversals against middleweights when he's badly cut despite the admonitions of the ref. . .

[Koa]

All the shit talking about Pride and Roids.. Take a look at the current champs. Soon Nog will have the belt at heavy.. At the end of the day, former Pride fighters are going to own nearly every belt the UFC has, and the best Pride fighter isn't even part of their organization.

[scurlaruntings]

All the shit talking about Pride and Roids.. Take a look at the current champs. Soon Nog will have the belt at heavy.. At the end of the day, former Pride fighters are going to own nearly every belt the UFC has, and the best Pride fighter isn't even part of their organization.Yup pretty much sums it up. 2 fighters loose and every prick wants to jump on the UFC bandwagon and declare that PRIDE fighters are shit are on gear. Silva is the 185 champ Jackson is the 205 champ and the heavy belt now has Big Nog written on it. Hmm id say they done pretty well.:nut

[boxingcar]

Silva is the 185 champ Jackson is the 205 champ and the heavy belt now has Big Nog written on it. Hmm id say they done pretty well.:nut

will it be a first ? triple impact on ufc's weight divisions..
never seen anything like this before.

[thebrodstar]

There is a lot of shit talk about all these organizations and who has the better fighters. Lets not forget that Liddell was once in Pride and that wanderlei Silva started in UFC. Many fighters go through different phases in there lives and some peak sooner than others. I don't think there is any point to talk about a Couture and Fedor fight it will never happen. Even though Couture lost half his fights he still destroyed Sylvia, and noone else could, and then went to beat Gonzaga. He is not some random fighter thats for sure.

[boxingcar]

There is a lot of shit talk about all these organizations and who has the better fighters. Lets not forget that Liddell was once in Pride and that wanderlei Silva started in UFC. Many fighters go through different phases in there lives and some peak sooner than others. I don't think there is any point to talk about a Couture and Fedor fight it will never happen. Even though Couture lost half his fights he still destroyed Sylvia, and noone else could, and then went to beat Gonzaga. He is not some random fighter thats for sure.

actually , wanderlei didn't start his career in ufc. But i agree with what you said.

[thebrodstar]

really? where did he start? you learn something new everyday lol.

[Beebs]

really? where did he start? you learn something new everyday lol.

Brazillian Vale Tudo and IVC.

[Dostoevsky]

Liddell was never in Pride. He went as the UFC representative in the 2003 middleweight tournament trying to prove he was the best in the world and also trying to prove UFC fighters were better.

[bhwbj]

I'm just saying that reading the Gospel of Fedor gets a little old after a while. Especially when it seems like Fedor has no interest in fighting the best opposition available.

If you look around the net, Fedorite's also preached the word of Shogun to all that would listen....Shugun was supposed to be unstoppable....blah blah blah.... He got beat by a probable gatekeeper in Forest Griffin, who by the way fought that fight with a broken/injured hand.

It's not a given that Fedor would dominate MMA today....nope, not even close. "Upsets" are the norm in this relatively young sport

[thebrodstar]

Liddell was never in Pride. He went as the UFC representative in the 2003 middleweight tournament trying to prove he was the best in the world and also trying to prove UFC fighters were better.

He didn't do poorly either, sure he had losses but he still did good.

[scurlaruntings]

will it be a first ? triple impact on ufc's weight divisions..
never seen anything like this before.Either way despite the UFC holding all the chips the divsions look weak and fairly uninteresting. Last nights UFC apart from Silva Franklin was crap.Tim gets recycled again again.Vera although a decent guy is overrated and really needs to get off the puddings and make noise at 205 and the heavy division as usual in the UFC just sucks.

At least in PRIDE you had the big 4 Nog Cro Cop Fedor and Barnett and a who`s who list of B/C level fighters in Coleman,Randleman,Igor,Fujita,Frye,Hunt,Kharitonov,Yoshida,Goodridge,Yvel,
Werdum,Thompson,Alexsander E to name but a few and thats just heavy.Some of these guys are old like Coleman Goodridge and Frye but they were quality mainstays that gave you exicting bouts.The UFC doesnt have anything to even match this.And dont get me started on light heavy or any of the lower divisions. I mean Sylvia is calling out Cheick Kongo?!?!?!?! WTF!:patsch

The talent pool has been destroyed.Dana took what he wanted thinking he`d get good results.But MMA is about as predictable as a lottery ticket.

[codeman99998]

Tim is VASTLY underrated as a fighter. The mere fact that he is 6'8 and has to CUT WEIGHT to make 265 is enough in itself to be a challenge. Tim is a pretty solid striker that could make it a tough night for any heavyweight.

Just because he is white trash and not all that exciting doesn't mean you have to take away from his ability to WIN FIGHTS.

Now, it is VERY important for Pride fans to know that just because THEIR heavyweights seem unbeatable and amazing, it doesn't mean that they are. Cro Cop turned out to be a huge disappointment, he isn't nearly as good as he SEEMED to be in Pride or K1. Either that, or he SUDDENLY just became a whole lot worse.

He looked smaller to me in the UFC. I'm not saying he DEFINITELY took performance enhancers or anything, but both he and Shogun's physique and stamina were much worse in their UFC fights.

And shit dude, Kongo decisively beat one of the "big 4" as you call it... sure he should get the shot at Sylvia. Shit, the winner of that should get a title shot. How does this not make sense?

Fedor's never fought the best of the UFC, who is to say he would definitely win? USC looked unbeatable in NCAA football, and just by watching them without any other knowledge, you might think they had what it took to beat the Steelers, whose record was not as impressive.

But you would be absolutely dead wrong.

[scurlaruntings]

Tim is VASTLY underrated as a fighter. The mere fact that he is 6'8 and has to CUT WEIGHT to make 265 is enough in itself to be a challenge. Tim is a pretty solid striker that could make it a tough night for any heavyweight.

Just because he is white trash and not all that exciting doesn't mean you have to take away from his ability to WIN FIGHTS.

Now, it is VERY important for Pride fans to know that just because THEIR heavyweights seem unbeatable and amazing, it doesn't mean that they are. Cro Cop turned out to be a huge disappointment, he isn't nearly as good as he SEEMED to be in Pride or K1. Either that, or he SUDDENLY just became a whole lot worse.

He looked smaller to me in the UFC. I'm not saying he DEFINITELY took performance enhancers or anything, but both he and Shogun's physique and stamina were much worse in their UFC fights.

And shit dude, Kongo decisively beat one of the "big 4" as you call it... sure he should get the shot at Sylvia. Shit, the winner of that should get a title shot. How does this not make sense?

Fedor's never fought the best of the UFC, who is to say he would definitely win? USC looked unbeatable in NCAA football, and just by watching them without any other knowledge, you might think they had what it took to beat the Steelers, whose record was not as impressive.

But you would be absolutely dead wrong.Dude Nicolai Valuev continues to win. Thats not because his immensely talented its mostly due to his physical stature.The same is true with Sylvia.He is NOT physically blessed with great talents in any Martial arts discipline.Any guy above 200lbs can pack a punch thats the simply laws of human physics.Im not saying his a bum but the bottomline is the fans dont like him, his not entertaining and his fights are simply boring to watch.

As for Kongo big deal.He has loss`s to Marrero where he couldnt even buy a takedown defense, and a loss to Yvel the king of the DQ`s by TKO.Kongo Sylvia does not represent the epitome of current championship scene in MMA. If this is the case in your eyes then il quit being a fan right now.As you cannot reward mediocrity just because Sylvia and Kongo are one of our only current choices in this very weak heavy division.This bout would essentially represent these 2 as being the best in the world.Surely you know that is not the case irrespective of wether Sylvia calls him out or you think he has a legit title shot even though CC lost to Gonzaga..In either case Im not sure how you think his deserving of a title shot when CC lost to Gonzaga and Gonzaga then lost to Randy.Or does he get a title shot because he beat up a Name fighter?

[codeman99998]

Dude Nicolai Valuev continues to win. Thats not because his immensely talented its mostly due to his physical stature.The same is true with Sylvia.He is NOT physically blessed with great talents in any Martial arts discipline.Any guy above 200lbs can pack a punch thats the simply laws of human physics.Im not saying his a bum but the bottomline is the fans dont like him, his not entertaining and his fights are simply boring to watch.

As for Kongo big deal.He has loss`s to Marrero where he couldnt even buy a takedown defense, and a loss to Yvel the king of the DQ`s by TKO.Kongo Sylvia does not represent the epitome of current championship scene in MMA. If this is the case in your eyes then il quit being a fan right now.As you cannot reward mediocrity just because Sylvia and Kongo are one of our only current choices in this very weak heavy division.This bout would essentially represent these 2 as being the best in the world.Surely you know that is not the case irrespective of wether Sylvia calls him out or you think he has a legit title shot even though CC lost to Gonzaga..In either case Im not sure how you think his deserving of a title shot when CC lost to Gonzaga and Gonzaga then lost to Randy.Or does he get a title shot because he beat up a Name fighter?

Might it be just his physical stature? Sure, it might. The point of the UFC is to find the best fighter in the world, not the most skilled fighter in the world, or the most fun to watch fighter in the world. We are trying to find out who can beat any other man here, not who can please the most fans with their fancy moves.

Sylvia deserves the shot if he beats Kongo if only because he is the former champ. Former champ who loses his belt and then goes on to beat 1 undefeated up and coming fighter and then a fighter who beat the man who was supposed to be the best HW striker in the world, those two fights get him another shot at the title. Former champs get that consideration.

As for Kongo, 3 back to back wins, one against Assuerio Silva, then Cro Cop, then the former champ, that certainly seems to be enough to me. Don't put so much emphasis on record, 3 wins against very high quality opponents DOES mean something.

I really don't see what the problem is?

[oblate]

Fedor wants no part of Randy C.

I know that for a fact
hahaha yea right.

[curmudgeon]

The point of the UFC is to find the best fighter in the world, not the most skilled fighter in the world, or the most fun to watch fighter in the world. We are trying to find out who can beat any other man here, not who can please the most fans with their fancy moves.


The point of UFC is to make a shitload of moneys for Dana White and friends. The rest is fine grain bulls crap marketing (pardon for a tautology);