What was De La Hoyas bravest fight to take on

[Nawfal]

I think it was to take on SSM 1

mosely was a fucking beast back in the day, and yes he had to come up in weight, but looking back on things that didnt make too much difference. mosely had amazing speed and power, chin and could box like a madman. he was willing to war as well.

their first fight was amazing. dont forget they were both in their primes and in divisions close to their primes as well.

i know some people might say it was taking on hopkins, but hopkins was already quite old, and didnt have young legs like mosely. also oscar had nothing to lose. both were reaching the end of their careers. all oscar had to do was stay away and try and outbox the old master.

also the fight with mayweather. i mean there was no way floyd could have serioulsy hurt him, and the aim of pbf was to outbox him and stay away.

or was it trinidad ? both young undefeated fighters.

[PJ]

A lot of them...

[Ramshall1]

Im not a big DLH fan, but in his prime he fought alot of top competition in their prime.

[acb]

Bernard.. End of Story.

[Chileno606]

Bernard. It was a huge mountain to climb, and I give him credit for trying at least, unlike PBF and other cowards.

[Robbi]

Hopkins. Without question. The first Mosley fight was a tough one as well. I'm a massive De La Hoya fan, but I never gave him much of a chance against Hopkins. If De La Hoya was moving up against a full fledged middleweight who was one dimensional and lacked skill, then I would have backed him. But Hopkins is a complete fighter. He could have stopped De La Hoya much earlier if he never showed him the respect he did. Hopkins has never been an all out aggressive fighter.

[VIP]

Yea I think maybe Mosley.

I mean Hopkins was a bigger man but that was a big fight and Oscar made a lot of money. The risk was worth it and Oscar thought he was catching a old Hopkins. Hopkins came down to 156 for that fight, plus he looked weak at the weighin. There was a few who were picking Oscar which in hindsight looks ridiculous now.

[Pimp C]

Hopkins hands down. Shane was the smaller man and was moving up two weight classes to fight him. Oscar thought he was stronger, faster and better than Mosley.:deal

[Boro chris]

A lot of people call Oscar fans 'Oscarsexuals', which is a little unfair. I cant think of a modern fighter who took on a higher quality of opponent than Oscar
I know he lost to a few of them but if you compare his resume to others....its the best in the world for quite some time.

[Robbi]

I'm amazed people are saying the Mosley fight.


"What was De La Hoyas bravest fight to take on". Which means nothing to do with the result of the fight, and who dominated De La Hoya the most. The question speaks for itself.


Mosley was moving up two weight divisions, although he was very similar size when he got in the ring with De La Hoya. Mosley had never been in a superfight either. He was very much the underdog as well.

De La Hoya was also taking on a full blown middleweight, with respectable power at the weight when he fought Hopkins. Even though De La Hoya was moving up in weight, the handspeed of Hopkins was maybe just as quick.

[fernando4cv3]

it was deff the trinidad fight. he had more on the line such as his undefeated streak. To casual fans undefeated streaks represent that a fighter is immortal. After they lose their straks they arent seen in the same perspective even if not by that much. Just look at Tyson and Ali after their first loses

[Thread Stealer]

Bernard Hopkins.

[Thread Stealer]

A lot of people call Oscar fans 'Oscarsexuals', which is a little unfair. I cant think of a modern fighter who took on a higher quality of opponent than Oscar
I know he lost to a few of them but if you compare his resume to others....its the best in the world for quite some time.

That term is not for regular Oscar fans.

It's for the delusional fanatics.

[Robbi]

it was deff the trinidad fight. he had more on the line such as his undefeated streak. To casual fans undefeated streaks represent that a fighter is immortal. After they lose their straks they arent seen in the same perspective even if not by that much. Just look at Tyson and Ali after their first loses

I think the poster who made the thread means "bravest" in terms of hardest task, and his chances of winning before the first bell rang for each of his fights. The most difficult fight on paper.

De La Hoya was 26 years old when he fought Trinidad, which was in and around his prime. Trinidad never had a great chin and was known for being one dimensional.

De La Hoya was 31 years old when he fought Hopkins, and was fighting a natural 160lb fighter, and it was two divisions above his fight with Trinidad. Hopkins was also much more skilled than Trinidad, no question.

[fernando4cv3]

I think the poster who made the thread means "bravest" in terms of hardest task, and his chances of winning before the first bell rang for each of his fights. The most difficult fight on paper.

De La Hoya was 26 years old when he fought Trinidad, which was in and around his prime. Trinidad never had a great chin and was known for being one dimensional.

De La Hoya was 31 years old when he fought Hopkins, and was fighting a natural 160lb fighter, and it was two divisions above his fight with Trinidad. Hopkins was also much more skilled than Trinidad, no question.

now that i think about it your right. i was jsut thinkin that there so was so much on the line for that fine mustve nerve wrecking and it takes a brave real champion to fight the best of the best. Which i think tito was at the time

[Motor City Sam]

Hopkins. There was public pressure on De La Hoya to take on Mosley and Trinidad. Had he not fought them, he would have been ripped for ducking. No one would have complained if Oscar had not taken the Hopkins fight. Hop was a monster who was the bigger and stronger man and at the top of the pound for pound lists. Oscar deserves a lot of props for taking that fight.

[brooklyn1550]

Hopkins

[cpnasty]

Hopkins hands down. Shane was the smaller man and was moving up two weight classes to fight him. Oscar thought he was stronger, faster and better than Mosley.:deal


If Oscar thought he was faster than Mosley, he was clearly on crack.

[cuchulain]

That term is not for regular Oscar fans.

It's for the delusional fanatics.

Like JackPresscot and his alterego Gayb?

[cuchulain]

Hopkins


No question.

It was Hopkins, who began (and continues) at 175.

Oscar began at 130.

[maciek4]

Felix Sturm. DLH had no chance but still agreed to take this fight.

[Shake]

De La Hoya was 26 years old when he fought Trinidad, which was in and around his prime. Trinidad never had a great chin and was known for being one dimensional.

It was that fight that highlighted that Trinidad was one-dimensional.

[Danny Ocean]

trinidad

oscar didnt have to fight a young prime undefeated puncher

but he did

[Motor City Sam]

Alot of Hopkins votes on here, people say they did not give him much of a chance, but those same people hold ODH in higher regard than Trinidad, and no one absoulutely no one gave Trinadad the same excuse for losing to Hopkins like they did Oscar which is a contradiction to me. He took no less than 15 million in all of his mega fights, it was never a high risk low reward for asker in anyfight.

Trinidad had brutally knocked out a top five (at least) middleweight in William Joppy before he fought Hop. He looked like 160 pounds was his natural weight and he certainly appeared to carry his power. Tito was a heavy favorite in the Hopkins fight; very few people thought Oscar could beat Hopkins. Oscar had struggled in his first bout at 160. That's probably why those outcomes are looked at differently. In retrospect, maybe people were wrong to favor Tito, but most did.

As far as the amount of money Oscar made meaning it was never a high risk/low reward situation for him, you could say that about a lot of fighters. In that case, Mosley jumping up to 147 to fight Oscar was not a risky move because he got his highest payday against ODLH. Besides, Oscar has shown the ability to make a ton of money fighting people like Yory Boy Campas and Ricardo Mayorga. He didn't have to fight Hopkins or Pretty Boy to add to his bank account.

[RAMPAGE0017]

Trinidad had brutally knocked out a top five (at least) middleweight in William Joppy before he fought Hop. He looked like 160 pounds was his natural weight and he certainly appeared to carry his power. Tito was a heavy favorite in the Hopkins fight; very few people thought Oscar could beat Hopkins. Oscar had struggled in his first bout at 160. That's probably why those outcomes are looked at differently. In retrospect, maybe people were wrong to favor Tito, but most did.

As far as the amount of money Oscar made meaning it was never a high risk/low reward situation for him, you could say that about a lot of fighters. In that case, Mosley jumping up to 147 to fight Oscar was not a risky move because he got his highest payday against ODLH. Besides, Oscar has shown the ability to make a ton of money fighting people like Yory Boy Campas and Ricardo Mayorga. He didn't have to fight Hopkins or Pretty Boy to add to his bank account.

Agreed. :good

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems that people want to keep DLH and Trinidad in the same boat as far as the issues of weight goes. But when it comes right down to it, Trinidad is just naturally able to carry more weight better than Oscar. People say that DLH was out of his league at 160 because he didn't accomplish shit there, and it's obvious by his fight with Sturm that he was in way over his head. Trinidad on the other hand, as you've said.. crushed WBA champion William Joppy. Everyone's just different when it comes to moving from one division to another.... who would've thought that Roy Jones would eventually come up from 160 and dominate the light-heavyweight division for what seems like a life-time.

[Motor City Sam]

Agreed. :good

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems that people want to keep DLH and Trinidad in the same boat as far as the issues of weight goes. But when it comes right down to it, Trinidad is just naturally able to carry more weight better than Oscar. People say that DLH was out of his league at 160 because he didn't accomplish shit there, and it's obvious by his fight with Sturm that he was in way over his head. Trinidad on the other hand, as you've said.. crushed WBA champion William Joppy. Everyone's just different when it comes to moving from one division to another.... who would've thought that Roy Jones would eventually come up from 160 and dominate the light-heavyweight division for what seems like a life-time.

True. No one was calling Tito a blown up welter before the Hopkins fight. In fact, a lot of people were saying the opposite, that he had been starving himself to make 147 for so long and 160 was a perfect fit. Also, the next proposed fight after he beat up Hopkins was supposed to be a fight with Roy Jones Jr at 168.

[RAMPAGE0017]

In fact, a lot of people were saying the opposite, that he had been starving himself to make 147

That doesn't sound completely unbelievable. I always did feel that he resembled an ethiopian at 147. :lol:

[achillesthegreat]

There are loads and that's why he is loved and will be remembered. Through it all, he deserves it. Unfortunately he couldn't compile a record that was quite as substantial as a Leonard or Robinson BUT...

...he dared, and that means ALOT!

[Carlos Primera]

hopkins no contest. he was too big, too strong, too good for oscar. oscar deserves respect for pushing for and making that fight happen, he really wanted that fight to solidify his legacy instead of fattening his wallet, unlike most fighters nowadays.

[Scar]

Mosley I & II, Trinidad, Quartey, Hopkins, Mayweather.

[DoumB]

Hopkins, some may think im stupid but floyd is in there too cause oscar is past it and didnt have to take a fight like that but again he fought the best fighter in the world..

[kirk]

just the fact there are so many differant responces, is a testament to oscars legacy.