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RoccoMarciano
10-23-2007, 03:18 AM
Did Jack Dempsey ever face an equal before Fitzsimmons?
Senya13
10-23-2007, 06:33 AM
An equal in what?
RoccoMarciano
10-23-2007, 06:42 AM
Boxing... or is that foreign to this board......................
Senya13
10-23-2007, 07:01 AM
Boxing includes many components. I don't consider Fitz equal to Dempsey in boxing skills. If you are asking about good opponents in general, Mike Donovan was a middleweight champ.
RoccoMarciano
10-23-2007, 07:15 AM
Did Dempsey face a person equal to himself in boxing skill before Fitzsimmons?
Nonpareil means no equal, an explanation for our Russian audience.
Senya13
10-23-2007, 07:19 AM
As I said, I don't think Fitzsimmons was equal in boxing skills to Dempsey. He was bigger, stronger, and faced a washed-up Dempsey, that's why he won.
RoccoMarciano
10-23-2007, 07:22 AM
Give me some views prior to Fitzsimmons then. The whole point of the post......
The word prior means before. Just thought I'd point that little fact out to those lacking in English ability.
Senya13
10-23-2007, 07:24 AM
Thanks for translation. Why don't you give a couple of names of fighters who held the alias 'Nonpareil' before Jack Dempsey?
Senya13
10-23-2007, 07:26 AM
Views about what? About Mike Donovan ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) being a very skilled boxer?
RoccoMarciano
10-23-2007, 07:33 AM
Point blank... I don't like you Senya, never have. You are more of a disruption than anything else. I'm more than happy to translate anything you need translated:) Seems clear you need help!
I would thank you if you'd find it fit to not reply to my posts in the future. It's fairly obvious I've little use for you, or your insight.... so what's the point?
Senya13
10-23-2007, 07:38 AM
And I'll be happy if you never again speak about fighters or a country you have zero knowledge about.
RoccoMarciano
10-23-2007, 07:50 AM
Oh, I know quite a lot about Russia.. trust me :)
When you have a contribution to a question, I'll be happy to read it. Let's stop this, this, whatever it is, shall we?
It's not getting you out of the third world, and it certainly means nothing to me.. so what's the point?
Senya13
10-23-2007, 07:58 AM
You know so much about it, that you can't remember any names of Russian boxers who were champs recently, except for some heavyweights.
Yes, lets leave it at this. As by the time Dempsey faced Fitz he was nonpareil no more, having been beaten already.
RoccoMarciano
10-23-2007, 08:07 AM
Classic forum.. I know of no Russians that fit my criterion for that one.
Get's me why we always go on like this............. It makes me wonder why I post on here at all.
Senya13
10-23-2007, 08:11 AM
Why don't you give a link to your best (in your opinion) post on this forum, maybe at least it contains something interesting and new?
Senya13
10-23-2007, 08:31 AM
An old post of mine about Nonpareil Jack Dempsey ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) on one Russian forum. Dated June 26, 2004. That's the day when I first learned what 'nonpareil' word means, FYI.
RoccoMarciano
10-24-2007, 02:20 AM
So much for your knowledge of English.
janitor
10-24-2007, 05:15 PM
Here is an acount of the fight if you two will stop bickering
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GazOC
10-24-2007, 08:30 PM
So much for your knowledge of English.
You mean French? And I'd still bet its better than your Russian?
RoccoMarciano
10-24-2007, 11:32 PM
You mean French? And I'd still bet its better than your Russian?
The English borrowed many words from others. So assuming it was once French, it is an English word now.
Have I ever had a desire to learn Russian? No! Why learn a language no person outside of Russia uses?
RoccoMarciano
10-24-2007, 11:39 PM
Here is an acount of the fight if you two will stop bickering
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Senya13
10-25-2007, 02:19 AM
I have reports of several tens of Dempsey's fights. But thank you.
GazOC
10-25-2007, 11:42 PM
The English borrowed many words from others. So assuming it was once French, it is an English word now.
It was, and still is, French. The fact its fallen into use with English speakers doesn't alter that.
And as for pulling up a Russian for not knowing the word......tut, tut. Give he guy a break.;)
RoccoMarciano
10-26-2007, 12:00 AM
It was, and still is, French. The fact its fallen into use with English speakers doesn't alter that.
And as for pulling up a Russian for not knowing the word......tut, tut. Give he guy a break.;)
Does to me... it's an English word now. You might as well accept the fact English, not French or Russian, is the global language :lol: It's what senya and you are both using.
Just read Janitor's post and drop this angle...
Seamus
10-26-2007, 12:05 AM
cat fight!
GazOC
10-26-2007, 12:12 AM
cat fight!
Not here mate. The phrase is French and only really makes grammatical sense in French but its no biggie to me... I'm English.:D
RoccoMarciano
10-26-2007, 12:32 AM
Not here mate. The phrase is French and only really makes grammatical sense in French but its no biggie to me... I'm English.:D
Don't most English have a certain dislike for the French?
How does the word fail to make grammatical sense in English when a definition is easily available... in English? Most English words derive their meaning through definition, don't they? If not, how did we ever learn how to use them??
GazOC
10-26-2007, 12:49 AM
No equal Jack Dempsey?
Having no equal Jack Dempsey?
Doesn't work gramatically...;)
I don't mind the French....as long as they stay in France.:D
apollack
10-26-2007, 03:48 AM
Dempsey was a phenomenal fighter with more finish fights than most fighters in the 1880s. I will have a pretty good discussion of his career, and his fight with Fitzsimmons, in my upcoming book on Bob Fitzsimmons, coming out in December.
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